Mortal Kombat 1 - How To Restore Shao ‘Kahn’ In The New Era! Downfall And Rise! 

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Corporate Kane

In all fairness, Unmasked Kane at first was arguably scarier than Debut Kane imo

Once Kane unmasked himself everyone stood a chance and was able to beat him. Masked Kane was unstoppable.

​@@adrenalrush1999 not when he first debuted ..in 97....Kane was literally wrestling Jason Voorhees.....over time he became leatherface

These buffoons at NRS made him that way.

Mk1 is the beginning of the new era franchise. Shao Kahn is only starting off as a jobber but overtime in the next game or so on he would work his way from a warlord rebel to the emperor he is destined to be. That is…if he doesn’t get killed off shortly after claiming the throne unless rieko would still be alive to be his successor. Hopefully NRS doesn’t screw it up.

MK11 messed that up, but theres the thing, *Shao KAHN* is this concept, here he is General Shao, a rising power figure in Outworld who has a fraction of his power from the old timeline.

No they didn’t Shao Kahn had an amazing first entry and an even better more important story in mk3 making him even stronger in both the story of it and also the actual gameplay he’s a legend Compare that to Shinnok who I love but was playable at his first mainline game and made a fool of by his own henchman quan chi who took the real amulet and he didn’t win Armageddon he should have It could’ve been perfect for him Shinnok was introduced as an elder god who was much stronger than the highest form of shao Kahn but he was now a fallen god and much weaker than he once was he was already severely weakened in his introduction in the series. Shinnok was originally MUCH stronger than shao Kahn or Onaga but and idk if he was weaker as a fallen god to mk2 shao Kahn ,I think he was still slightly more powerful than a base mk2 shao Kahn but not as powerful as a fallen elder god as mk3 shao Kahn who absorbed all earthrealm souls. I think mk3 is when shao Kahn truly surpassed the fallen elder god and indefinitely became a bigger threat and more powerful than shinnok in his fallen god form. He is still powerful in his fall n elder god status it’s just he’s not portrayed that way. Shao Kahn and Onaga are much weaker than the TRUE level of full power elder god Shinnok with his power restored bcuz shaonkajn ar his best couldn’t even scratch raiden and the elder gods compare that to shinnok killing all normal gods but raiden and fujin and almost killing all the elder gods and it took them all to defeat shinnok so there is a gap of power between shaonkajns prime and shinnoks prime One couldn’t scratch the elder gods the other almost destroyed them all… My point is Shinnok is slot more powerful than ppl realize when he has his power restored and more so than sbaonkahn and shinnok is my favorite villain but it’s easy to see that shao Kahn has been the one that shines the most between shaonkajj shinnok Onaga and blaze and deadly alliance. Shaonkahn has despite having originally started off much weaker than emperor Onaga or elder god shinnok managed to kill Onaga twice and take the emperor status in Armageddon atoppped Onaga and Shinnok from winning Armageddon and everyone else he has amazing story but I think shao Kahn the timeline of him who was emperor of outworld for centuries had surpassed Onaga by a slight bit otherwise he wouldn’t have defeated him in Armageddon and claimed victory. Kahn became stronger at his prime from weaker versions of Shinnok or the fallen elder god version of him in mk3 My point is shinnok is this powerful being that neither Onaga nor shao Kahn were anything to him Remember Shinnok is an elder god and he warred with the one being with the other elder gods and defeated the one being. Shinnok almost destroyed all other elder gods so it’s safe to say Shinnok was the main elder god for the one beings defeat THATS ALOT OF POWER! Onaga in his own battle power perhaps was strong and could take down most normal beings but without the kamidogu he can’t come close to warring with the one being and later betraying the other elder gods and almost winning on his own power he wouldn’t get that far without the kamidogu. Shinnoks power is severely underestimated considering his feats of helping defeat the one being and nearly destroying all other elder gods on his own and without any external power ups like Onaga he did it on his own before his power was stripped and yet they have shit on him since the betting making him playable and an easy weak boss in mk4 In canon story he almost took down all the elder gods and normal gods at the same time raiden is included in that war and he went from that and helping take down the one being to losing to Cassie cage and being beheaded by a raiden a much weaker god than him and humiliated! They did not tear down shao Kahn Onaga or even deadly alliance that badly As to have their heads cut off like shinnok was it was insulting as a shinnok lover but I like to think mk11 intro didn’t happen. They shit on shinnok sooo bad every time despite the huge role he played as this ancient god far above emperors Onaga shao Kahn and kotal Kahn. Compared to that shao Kahn’s loses or the ways he’s lost arnt that bad. The problem is he was executed so perfectly in mk2-3 and mk9 that you think he’s been butchered worse than shinnok but at least Kahn had 3 amazing showings and as much as I love shinnok and as powerful as he is in his full power restored, they haven’t allowed him to kill ppl or take everyone to kill him and that’s just sad. At least Kahn didn’t have his head and dignity cut off! Raiden realistically only had the power to do this bcuz he had shinnoks amulet which contains his full elder god power sealed away. When shinnok doesn’t have it he’s basically at a fraction of his power and when someone else wields it they wield shinnoks full elder god power. Raiden possessed shinnoks full power and used it against him to wound and behead him otherwise raidens attacks don’t normally hurt shinnok

​@@fernandoenamorado2480 Holy shit!

​@@fernandoenamorado2480dude... please be more concise, I ain't reading allat

Yes they really messed this one up bad

​@@kakarrotchronic they didn't mess up

Too much of a good thing is bad, Shao has been used to death that he doesn’t carry the same weight anymore like he once did. As for Titan Havik, I would definitely say he’s a good character, Havik has a lot of potential which this is the original Havik not the new timeline one.

And while I liked MKX comic Havik, I don’t think that would be a good direction for him. As that iteration of him hardly even has the aspects of his original self in Deception/Armageddon.

@@bloodycherri2798 I agree too much of a good thing can be bad but I don’t think that’s what makes shao a bad boss at all. They just started jobbing him out so much to the point that he’s just not scary anymore. They are obviously out of creative ideas at this point and had to go the multiverse route where “anything could happen”. They could have used shao as the new vessel for onaga since he is half dragon in this timeline if anything. I’m not saying havic isn’t a good character in concept I’m saying he isn’t a good character gameplay wise but that’s just my opinion. MKX comics used him perfectly as cleric of chaos causing all types of chaos behind the scenes through manipulation and convincing reiko to become a blood god! That’s a much better route than introducing Titians. Where could they possibly go from here if they already introduced the beings who created the universe itself?

I 100% agree.

Exactly, and to think people still believe aftermath was actually redemption of shao Kahn (when in reality, it was shit covered with sprinkles - context included, shao is still a terrible character in aftermath) is just straight coping and can’t deal with the fact NRS doesn’t seem to like shao Kahn anymore

Shao kahn(even though sounds better) was never his true name,Kahn is a title

@@SupportGamin2024 False. Shao Kahn was his name all the way up until X decided to turn Kahn into a title. Onaga didn't go by 'Onaga Kahn'.

​​@ItsOfficiaI doesn't matter ,Kahn is a title at this point whether we like it or not,The writers don't care about their own lore at this point they keep retconning and rebooting things and it's getting very irritating

@SupportGamin2024 That's literally what I'm saying. MK1 has done irreparable damage to him. Nobody called him just "Shao" until this game.

Thought wrong, m8. Shao Kahn was always meant to be a outworlder, thing is as the time went on, his species was left in the air

Onaga is already upstaged and Shang tusng upstage him

He IS THE MAIN VILLAIN DAMMIT

​@@vikingfromnorth45there's also a Titan Onaga with his own timeline. That really needs an expansion alone.

Nah he's got to be in every game as long as he's alive

Man, shut it!!!! GT٪OH!

M bison is still alive as a. Ghost

Awww, did he beat you so many times before you were finally able to beat him back in mk2 and mk3? 😂😂😂

Probably won't happen. Ppl REALLY hate change, no matter how many people ask for it

But m8, that's Shao Kahn vs Liu Kang but less worse, Raiden's victory over Shao is much more beliveable than Liu's victory over Shao Kahn. Shao Kahn is leaps and bounds stronger, powerful and more experienced than General Shao.

Nope this is Shao kahn but Obviously younger

So you just want the same boring old story since 30 years ago? OK 😂

@@SupportGamin2024 yes 😐. This is MORTAL KOMBAT not rainbows and sunshine. Since this a new story with different backstory and different motivations then usual we could get a different story from the old stuff. Plus don’t act like there’s not anything new to work with either. These are the same characters with different backstory’s. So…it would be a same story…with widely different outcomes.

Well aftermath dlc shows shao wasn’t killed kitana but Shang twung

@@vikingfromnorth45 no he was just severly injured by kitanas strike

Aftermath was shit covered in disguise, mate. Most of his wins aren’t confirmed to be his since you get to pick him or sindel, gets to be the person who beats the opponent (in which that means in actuality and possibly, sindel won all this fights which make his record still unimpressive. His only confirmed wins are KK and liu kang in which aren’t impressive considering KK got reduced to a joke already and FGLK confirmed that he made it that way so he can have his way with shang (meaning Shao wouldn’t have done what he did with liu, hadn’t liu done his plan in aftermath and even then, powerscaling issues). He’s sindel’s and Shang’s bitch (which is worse for sindel’s case considering mk9 had him considered to be a more of a pain in the ass with him showing no love and then in mk11, he’s showing love to a woman who would drop him on a dime the moment she finds something more powerful- which is further confirmed by her intros with cetrion, spawn and sindel’s ending in mk11). Shao’s a dumb simp, who facades to have an impressive record (when in reality he doesn’t in aftermath) bcoz he’s piss poor useless without his woman, who would betray him the moment she got more power.

Nah they need to go with the Titan Onaga stuff.

He look nothing like Motaro

She had united the Shokan and the Centaur, if I recall correctly, and had both realms of Outworld and Edenia pretty much on good terms. She likely would have easily conquered the weakened Shao Kahn had the threat of the Deadly Alliance not ruined everything.

Onaga was never originally evil It was Kahn that betrayed him poisoned him and then upon onagas death the one beings evil tainted onagas soul and he was now evil and influenced directly by the one being It’s when Onaga wanted to gather the kamidogu bcuz it www really the one being wanting to use Onaga as a pawn and a puppet or vassal to return. Onagas soul used reptiles body The one being used onagas soul himself But before Onags originally died the first time he was actually a good ruler to his people It was Kahn’s meddling and killing that caused the one being to influence Onaga in death when Onaga changed. Even in deception shujinko stated that he could feel this forces influence on even Onaga he was reffering to the one being

Idk, in this timeline Onaga seems more like a beast than the genius he was in the previous

Ah reiko would also be a jobber

@@vikingfromnorth45 he already is in mk1

@@isaacalexander5286 yeah but he is shao’s lackey and loyal minion

@@vikingfromnorth45 yes and if you paid attention to my original comment you'd know I said hey would have replaced General Shoa in the story. Allowing Shoa to be used later.

@@isaacalexander5286 Nah it wouldn't work either it would have made no difference

Timeline shenanigans 😜 Kronika is the main villain of Mortal Kombat 11 her whole thing was changing the timeline so she brought over Shao Kahn before he was defeated by Liu Kang and Raiden

Onaga is gonna be a mindless beast

Onaga and shinnok are made mindless and powerless 😒 Besides them though I think BLAZE is the other boss that’s forgotten about I hated Blaze bcuz he had no threat at all bcuz he didn’t plan on ruling destroying etc he literally was meant to be killed but if they changed it to where he WAS the big villain trying to do so it would make him much more interesting and maybe have an army of fire spawn soldiers would be amazing he has so much potential as does shinnok and Onaga and they wasted them all

You’re definitely right about that. Always being Shang, Shao, quan chi, or shinnok. We definitely need a new big bad. Onaga would be a perfect fit for the role. Or a whole new character. But going by how mk1 ended it might be Titan Havok. We definitely need a change though

@@stevenmcbride2347 titan havik is gonna be story dlc

Would be better if it came full circle with General Shao taking the throne

@@SupportGamin2024 well the problem is if we are talking new versions of OG looks OG Shao is a whole ass normal dude and people ain't fond of the new Shao

Bingo. Can't have strong dominant masculinity. Earth realm is full of butt pumping pansies

Bingo. Can't have strong dominant masculinity. Earth realm is full of butt pumping pansies

Bingo. Can't have strong dominant masculinity. Earth realm is full of butt pumping pansies

Bingo. Can't have strong dominant masculinity. Earth realm is full of butt pumping pansies

That's honestly a weird take

Onaga won’t be either probably a new boss

They didn't really ruin it,it was bound to happen regardless cause that's what happens series go on for so long

I would say Onaga and he was his master but this was long before shao Kahn rose to power. Onaga outclassed general or advisor shao not shao Kahn the emperor. Shinnok is indefinitely much stronger than any form of shao Kahn when shinnoks power is fully restored. At his peak in mk3 mk9 shao Kahn couldn’t scratch raiden and the elder gods and Kahn was quickly killed Compare that to shinnok at full power and he nearly destroyed all the elder gods and normal gods at the same time in one long war! Also even before this,Shinnok was one of the elder gods that helped defeat the one being! Shao Kahn at his best proved he couldn’t harm the elder gods in mk9 Onaga without the kamidogu also doesn’t compare he’s not that strong unless he has those relics they boost anyone so much more But they can’t do what shinnok did helping to defeat the one being Im sure shinnok at his prime was the main reason for the one beings downfall and that’s ALOT OF POWER to put down the one being. No he wasn’t stronger than the one being but the fact that shinnok almost put down all the other elder gods on his own proves he is easily much stronger in his prime than the other elder gods,the same ones that disposed of shao Kahn so quickly… So logically it would make sense Shinnok was the main elder god that was the biggest cause for the one beings defeat in the war between the elder gods and the one being. Shinnok at his prime was fighting the one being along with the other elder gods and later fighting the elder god themselves Compared to shinnok shao Kahn is nothing I don’t see him warring with the one being or the other elder gods like shinnok did Same with Onaga he was only super powerful bcuz of the kamidogu which is literally the one beings essence and power It wasn’t really Onaga but the kamidogu or the one being who’s power ppl saw in deception The kamidogu gave Onaga a massive boost which when taken away in the following game Onaga is seen how strong he is in his own power and not that strong he couldn’t defeat shao Kahn. But yes shinnok and kronica are far above shao Kahn Onaga as emperor was superior to advisor shao But when shao became shao Kahn he was emperor for centuries became much more powerful and surpassed Onaga in Armageddon Onaga was only once again stronger bcuz of the kamidogu in deception but w.oit he reverted baxk to the power when he was emperor and poisoned by shao Except this time shao was shao Kahn and much stronger so Onaga was no longer stronger unless he had kamidogu. But going back to shao Kahn,yes only a few characters should be able to take him Onaga and shinnok down

@@fernandoenamorado2480 I know all of that, and Yeah I meant to put him in

@@fernandoenamorado2480 kronica was a joke

I have a feeling he will become kahn again mark my words

At least he still had his hammer

How MK 11 did not do shao dirty it did much better than 1s retcon

@@Monsterverse_titans27 retconned him into a stupid simp for sindel when he never gave a damn about her for loving purposes in mk9