Mosin vs Mauser 

Thanks to everyone that commented and everyone that continues to comment on this video. I greatly appreciate all the feedback and the discussions generated from the video. Given all the feedback, I’m going to do a more in depth video looking at each rifle. Including a lot of the suggestions submitted by you guys. My hope is to do both of these rifles justice. Thanks again to everybody that commented and subscribed.

My 1946 Russian made Mosin M44, the bolt operates like a hot knife through butter. No issues with the loading clips either.

While the Mauser style action is clearly superior, the difference in performance between two functional bolt action rifles has virtually no impact on an armed conflict between conscript armies. The only country that adopted a rifle good enough to make a significant difference was the US with the M1 Garand.

I'll just keep my 7.62x54r Thank you 😊

I own a 98K and I have fired a friend’s Mosin. I like my 98 better overall except for one major advantage of the Mosin that you failed to mention: less felt recoil. The Mosin just wasn’t as punishing on the shoulder to shoot. That has to count for something.

I have the 98k . Sadly it is sporting sport furniture. I had it given to me for my thirteenth birthday. I am 52 . I have sold it to turn around and pay double to get it back . I have carried it a lot of miles hunting. Making memories with a Vet that has long passed away . Infact two of them . May God be looking over them . They where good people. That freedom spreader is a good one . I own a couple bang bangs but go back to that. The price of ammo stops me at times . Lol . The 30/30 is cheeper but that is ok . Great video!

Dope video on a couple of great surplus rifles 👌

Finally! A video with a clear damn winner! So many “all things equal…” or “so who Wins? Well, depending on…” or “the pros and cons are pretty equal..” Love an honest test with a final answer. Thanks bro

Good work with the bolt. Subbed

I used to have 3 Mosins also in my collection. I installed the sniper bolt body on each. With its lengthened and turned down bolt handle, the Mosin Nagant is a real pleasure to shoot, and fast too! If you want a particularly good example of the Mosin being loaded from the bottom of the mag, look at the movie "Panfilov's 28". It seems this method was favored by Russian soldiers.

As a Military Surplus collector I own both of these rifles. Main difference to me is the Mauser is easier to load. As to overall functionality and accuracy both of these rifles lag far behind the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31, British SMLE, US A03 and Japanese Arisaka Type 99.

You missed one important characteristic: mass-producibility!

I own both and there's no doubt the Mauser is MUCH better made hands down the fit and metal finishing is so much better than the mosin there's no way to fairly compare the two that being said the mosin is very good utility rifle and works very well for being a little crude in machining and finish the Mauser will be more accurate as well but not by leaps and bounds my choice is the Mauser with no hesitation

My 1953 Polish Mosin carbine has a beautiful action and trigger. It's only downfall is the handle location and clips. Though the clips get easier with practice and technique. Unlike the buttery Mauser clips that need nothing but a firm shove.

The K98 in 7mm Mauser would have been the ulitmate bolt action gun. The heavy 8mm round held it back a bit.

I have both, you are right on your review.

Could have put some info out about the triggers

I have a german 1937 Mouser 98K... Buying a 1928 Mosin next month. Will do the same test, yet without clips (as I don't have them), but will be loading loose rounds one by one.

Both rifles are more than good for their intended use. It really comes down to what you think is "nicer" than the other. I'm just glad I never really had to use either and may all those who did rest in peace.

Enjoyed the video. Now, just to be fair, compare the Kar 98K to a Lee Enfield No4.

People always rag on the mosin, but it’s a great and accurate fire arm

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You forgot one key component - Environment - Can't say I recall where I saw it- but remember someone put a loaded Mosin and K-98 in side a cold chamber and tested them at temps of 0F--40. Mauser was stiff at 0, and frozen solid at -40. Mosin just kept chugging along Would you rather have a 8 month Mauser or a 12 month Mosin?

If I could have one here in Brazil, I'm talking about the cost of importing one and the amount of bureaucracy it takes to have a weapon of that caliber for civilian use, I'd choose the Mauser Kar98K for hunt wild boar

The Mauser is easier to load if you push the the cartridges down with the left thumb. To this end the receiver has that cut-out on the left side.

Next review “Finnish Sako or Tikka Mosin-Nagant “ please.

You're making a lot of assumptions about the use of the safety. Remember, the Soviet philosophy was "is gun, is not safe in first place." Under "ease of use," you also neglected field stripping the weapon and bolt disassembly, both of which are clear wins for the Mosin. And the sights... oof. I've got a lot of Mosins and Mausers, and 100% if the time if I want to be able to hit something, I'm taking a Mosin, because the sights are much better. You also didn't consider manufacturing factors- cost to manufacture a Mosin is significantly lower both in raw materials and money, but also in terms of man-hours. The factory tooling is also simpler, easier to set up, easier to operate, and easier to maintain.

I think if comparing a Finn M39 is the best comparison as the build quality is better than Russian examples. With that being said, this really is no contest there is a reason why the 98 action is the most copied action on earth for bolt guns. Its fast, smooth and reliable. These guns are capable of great feats of accuracy and in the 98k's case is a smaller and more handy rifle. 98k's strip feed is miles better, 7.92x57 can't rim lock unlike 7.62x54r, and has a better sling mounting system. As mentioned the safety is way better on the 98 and has a cycle but safe position at 12 o clock. Mosins due to their long barrels in good condition are capable of great feats of accuracy. The Mosin with a PU was a much better sniper's weapon than the k98k's ZF due to higher magnification and much shorter eye relief combined with a longer barrel. Mosins tend to operate better in the cold than 98k's. Overall winner is 98k by far. However Mosins did have their advantages, something the Finns made great use of during the Winter War. Mosin was a rifle made cheaply that got the job done, 98K was a high quality rifle that was more suited to hunting than the main rifle of the German army. Out of the WW2 bolt guns i own (I got at least one example of every major country's rifle) Type 99 is probably my favorite and i would argue is the best bolt gun overall with SMLE being close 2nd.

So what was the accuracy between the 2? Shouldn't that be an important consideration?

I also own a few of each of those rifles ,,,,, ill agree with your results (mostly) ,,,,, however , in my experiences with both rifles , the Yugo M-48 's sights are terrible ! The smallish rear "V" notch (that sits VERY LOW) ,, and small , tapered post front sight post . Leaves a lot to be desired ,,,, meanwhile the Mosin 91/30 has a fairly large and bold square notch rear sight , and an ample square top front post , that provides a MUCH better sight picture. For this reason , My mosin will shoot circles around my M48. I agree that the Mauser is a superior machine ,,, but its more difficult to use it to its full potential.

Mauser is far better rifle....Mosin, basic rifle, fairly accurate.. Mauser very accurate.

welp, is it true that, as a sniper, the mosin nagant would work better? a nice video, in my opinion, one of the best variants of the mosin if the finnish m39 too, if Im not wrong it had a better sustained fire.

Can't say from now, only got a mauser mle1893

When the Germans were 100 yards or further, the Russians would not be firing so fast that all they would hit is the sky. This is the same for the K98. Both sides would slow down and use well aimed fire. It was proven that the most prolific sniper in ww2 was using the Mosen and to make it even better the rifle he used most often was a standard iron sight mosen. Also, you failed to mention that the 7,62X54 cartridge in a mosen has considerable less felt recoil. I have shot both and the K98 chambered in the 8 mm is brutal to shoot, while the mosen chambered in 7.62x54R is a pleasure. Likewise, I am more accurate with the mosen. I am a very good shot, no brag, just fact. I was trained by the Air Force and the Company while serving in Vietnam. Later after rehab I joined the Sheriffs department and was selected as a sharpshooter on all 3 Sheriffs departments. It would be nice if someone would evaluate both rifles without prejudice.

Was the Mosin-Nagant the cheapest, easiest to manufacture, and easiest rifle to field during WW2? If not, which one is it? If it is, then why is it?

I like my Yugo Mauser, I have one. But I collect the Mosin Nagant, I have 22 of them.

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Interesting how you don't note/demonstrate 2 major aspects that are very important to any soldier carrying these rifles. Ease of breakdown and cleaning. Reliability in different weather/ temperature conditions.

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You’re supposed to hold the tip of the top round when charging a mosin.

Mauser 98 actions are STILL COPIED TO THIS DAY. There's a reason. ❤

The k98k is also the safer system i myself hsve 2 one in 8x57is(sniper) and one in 300 win mag but the 7.62x54 is supirior in accuracy wich hurts me a little bit as a man who loves the system 98 ps the yugos are shorter and perfect for the 308 qnd yes we in austria have enough laying around and yes I am a gunsmith

Even with a “superior “ bolt-action rifle, the Germans still couldn’t take Stalingrad

i had a 98 8mm made into a huntting rifle i nick name it tumber was a great gun until i got stolen

My personal opinion. Apples to apples, the Mauser is clearly a better rifle. It’s faster, lighter, shorter, and more refined. But did this make that much of a difference in the hands of the average Joe who was drafted to fight with these rifles? Who knows, I’d say that comes more down to training. And once we start looking at the big picture for WWII, bolt action guns were obsolescent. Compare a Garand to either of these, or even the German’s own MP-40 and you can see that they are old world technology. Still fun to watch this video and compare the differences, and now I’m offended because I can’t afford a Mauser and you hurt my Mosin’s feelings.

One of the best, most successful bolt-action rifle designs...ever VS A rifle, colloquially known as the "Garbage Rod", whose primary virtue was in being cheap.

I'm a huge fan of the mosin. Any variant.... however if I could only have one, give me the Mauser. Any 8mm variant

In the current market Mausers are 5 to 800 dollars and a lot of mosins are still running at 300 there's another Factor

It's not that the bolt is flat. It's why the bolt is flat. The previous mauser was the same way. There is a purpose for this though.

The 98 action is the gold standard of the bolt action. Look at the Springfield 1903, Enfield P14 and M1917, Winchester M54 and pre ‘64 M40 and many more. They are all Mauser knock offs.

although both long tools are time tested and combat proven and both hold my respect the professional prick in me has to work the k'98

In your video, this is a Yugo M48 (I have 3 of them!), not a K98k.

Unlike the mosin the kar98k was actually designed by a genius

I have both, the Mosin is a simple to use nondestructible rifle, when you have thousands being fired rate of fire is not so essential, the Mauser is faster, and more accurate easier to operate and the Mauser round is better, good to a 1000m mosin maybe 400, but in my experience 200 m, so for what its worth your spot on, but I bought my mosin at 125 for hex receiver so I can provide a rifle to people if I need to and not break the bank

Now do it with a pair of mittens and see what you think 🤔

Based upon the millions of people that both of these rifles put in the dirt, they're both good rifles

Thats a yugo m48 not the k98 isnt it

OK

So in short terms: mosin nagant can not be compared the k98k

I'll take a Type 38 Mexican Arisaka in 7mm Mauser

Own them both, both fun to shoot BUT the 98 is far superior. You should have done accuracy test. My M1, 03A3 and K31 blows them both away.

The loading thing is on you, I have one and have the same clips with no issue

On my Yugoslavian M24/47 with a turned down bolt (clearly a modification, unsure if Bubba or official armory work), I can use the mad minute shooting method. Thumb and index on the bolt knob, middle finger on the trigger.

Cheap Chinese stripper clips are a pain in the ass with the mosin. But once you figure out how manipulate it, and the clips break in I have no issues burning through 2-300 rounds in a session

Mauser!

The Mauser is definetly better because the mosins bolt is very rough and annoying to pull which is why it was so hated by soldiers

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Why are you doing the comparison, sense it is obvious to all that you hate the Mosen and love the K98?

I prefer the nugget

the result is no suprise, K98 is better made rifle. But they are military rifles, and as military rifle, and much more than perfection, you need durability. Let's put it straight. On eastern front, were though winters, and K98 had big problems with its small construction tolerances. When temperatures were under freezing point, their K98 actions started to jam, mosin's dont. I am not saying that mosin is better rifle, but it's better military rifle and K98 is better target rifle.

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Sustained fire came from automatic weapons, not bolt actions.

why does everyone hate the russian's Mosin Nagant, like wtf

Interesting, you compared a rifle made by a country renowned for its advanced engineering,to a peasant oppressed economy. By the way which side was the victor in the war in the East?

In my Humble opinion, the 98K Mauser was THE BEST Bolt action rifle of WW2!!!! Not to mention, it is the most Copied Bolt action rifle in the World!!!!!!

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KAR98K BEST :)

mosin

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I have both and I am more accurate with the mosin. also my Russian Stripper clips work very well. Sooo..

Long story short: Mauser is better in every way except finnish mosins have better sights than german mausers.

Zastava M-48

I don't care what people say, I love my mosin and that's that.

M1 garand makes both those garbage

In combat the small differences between the two rifles in this video is meaningless. Who won WW2...the Russian fontline soldiers with the Mosin. More soldiers, more supplies, more tanks, more ground support planes and the Mosin win. If the Germans had the semi-auto M-1 Garand they still would have lost.

This is why the Lee Enfield is best!

The only really bad thing about the Mauser is the sight picture. The sights are just atrocious. The round is rather overpowered too. It doesn't have much to do with the topic of the video but I think it's worth mentioning. I don't understand why ze Germans went for this rifle in the first place. Unlike most other countries, they didn't have to deal with a bunch of old crap when they started the re-armament in 1933. They didn't have a large stockpile of old guns and ammo, they basically had nothing. They could've developed a semi-auto rifle just like the Soviets and the Americans did, with a different round, more suitable for it. It was already during WW1 somebody proposed an idea to reduce the infantry rifle caliber to 6mm with a fast, lightweight bullet - does it sound familiar? And yet, ze Germans basically went for the same old crap.

Рукожопу всегда трудно зарядить Мосинку

And yet the Mosin has made an appearance in every major war since 1891, and on through 2024. Never seen someone have such an issue loading a Mosin. The Russians won the war you are referring to btw. Rifle is fine.

Buy a Nagant with the date before 1940 it was Belgian of superior quality, History the Russians have Made a call for tenders to replace their old rifles Three candidas the American Winchester, the German Mauser and the Belgian Nagant , the Russians have the best, and don't change your mind Like the Americans (see FN Fal and the Scar) in short The designer Léon Nagant suddenly fell blind The Russians offered to buy the patent in the meantime FN Herstal buy the Nagant factory, the problem the Russians do not Managed to make coins, if you have a Nagant On the magazine and the breech it is, engraved Nagant Liège, Another fact Paul Mauser learned his trade in Liège Belgium And the Soldiers of the Belgian army was from FN- Mauser Unfortunately Mauser was forced to regain Germany, it seems that the MP 44 has been developed By FN prisoners of war, it is possible since the MP 40 Was present in 1940 and it is necessary to wait until 1944 to see The rifle, the MP 40 was a 9mm submachine gun My opinion the Belgian Nagant was much better than the Mauser, the Russian was a do-it-yourself, he suppressed Elements that he was unable to make the Belgian rifle, does not prevent it they won the war

I own both rifles… they both suck… but I’m truly not sure I could have done a better job of intentionally F’ing up the stripper load job on the mosin. The original clips that I own work like butter, though still not as nice as the K98… that being said… both rifles still suck as a combat rifle… in the same era of production- my civilian Winchester mod 1894 sporting rifle in .30-30 out preforms them both out to 400yard and is WAY faster to cycle, if you know your rifle you never have to “stop” to reload and it has a superior capacity… all military rifles of the era “sucked”

Of course the K98K is superior and well-performed rifle than Mosin, the only reason why they lost because they picked the wrong time for the invasion. If only they chose to invade during winter-to-summer instead of summer-to-winter, the Germans would be able to overrun Moscow easily (the Germans were also capable handling the cold seasons too, but the Russians were already spent their life living in harsh winter more than anyone could done, from Odessa to the extreme and more isolated ones in Siberia. So, if their outdated firearms doesn't do the job let the mother nature deal the rest for the Red Army... Not even finest Hugo Boss dress would withstand those freezing sub-zero temperatures)

Fans of such videos are reminded that the war ended in Berlin. A Russian soldier with Mosin took the Reichstag. A German soldier with a k98 threw out a white flag. Mosin was created for war. k98 was created for the Einsatzgruppen.

Sorry, your language did not meet my community guidelines, will pass on your site.

German made compare to Russian made..no brainer... Russia has bare necessities functional, it works and dependable decent... German hands down quality.. better made..

I know you’re intelligent guy, but the indiscriminate use of scatological words does not make your presentation any more effective… If anything, less effective

If you look at the machine work on that Mosin it was definitely manufactured DURING the war. The machine work is trash. If you want a best quality Russian Mosin it will need to be made BEFORE the war and at the Tula factory. The BEST Mosins were made in Finland and had a custom 2 stage trigger.

I hive k98. In mosin naght. But mosin n for long fire is best I love

wich is better Mers or Lada…? guess you all know..))

The Mosin is a garbage rod.