Most Americans are wrong about crime

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But they’re right that something has changed in American cities.
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In 2020 and 2021, amid a pandemic that wreaked general havoc on the social fabric of the United States, violent crime rose. Today, most Americans believe that crime in the US has come roaring back - maybe even to the levels of the 1980s and ’90s.
But a look at the data shows a very different story. Nevertheless, the feeling that our cities are less safe is at least partly coming from something real. Something has changed in American cities, particularly since the pandemic. So what’s different, and what is the truth about crime in America right now?
Chapters:
00:00 Crime up or crime down
1:27 Crime stats
3:23 Public perception
4:26 Where crime is
7:03 Cities have changed
8:40 Stats don't matter
Sources and further reading:
Jeff Asher is maybe the preeminent analyst of American crime data. His Substack is an essential read if you want to learn more about crime stats: jasher.substack.com/
Several of Asher’s articles were foundational as we put this video together. Here’s his summary of what the 2023 crime data says: jasher.substack.com/p/crime-i...
And here’s his take on what the crime stats in 2024 are looking like so far: jasher.substack.com/p/its-ear...
Asher has also written about the public perception of crime, and gets into some angles that we don’t: jasher.substack.com/p/america...
Here’s the Gallup data we reference in the video: news.gallup.com/poll/544442/a...
Abdallah Fayyad writes for Vox and his reporting was foundational to this story, particularly around the turn toward tough-on-crime policies: www.vox.com/policy/24139552/c...
And here’s Fayyad on the effects of crafting criminal justice policy based on perception: www.vox.com/politics/24025691...
Ames Grawert, senior counsel at the Brennan Center, helped us understand the origin of crime statistics and what it is and isn’t good for: www.brennancenter.org/our-wor...
And of course there’s the work of Hanna Love and Tracy Hadden Loh from the Brookings Institution, which anchors this story: www.brookings.edu/articles/th...
The data on mental health treatment capacity in New York state came from this March 2024 report: www.osc.ny.gov/files/reports/...
And the unsheltered homelessness numbers come from HUD's 2023 homelessness report: www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/...
Finally, here’s that ABC News poll: abcnews.go.com/Politics/6-mon...
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@WOODSLD80 8 дней назад

People love making other people panic. It’s an American pastime.

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Human. This happens across the world due to the Right Wing media and politicians.

@brandontrammel4581 8 дней назад

Facts

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@churblefurbles 7 дней назад

@TheOfficialOriginalChad The same reason this channel is not to be trusted.

@samphelps856 6 дней назад

This

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@DreadedLad88 6 дней назад

Thats what conservatives do...Its like their only trick...Deflection.

@TurbopropPuppy 6 дней назад

one could even say it's a... crime

@AndreAnyone 6 дней назад

40% of law enforcement agencies nationwide did not submit 2021 crime data. While a number of states, including Connecticut, Delaware, and Vermont, had near universal compliance, many others did not. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed 2021 NIBRS participation data to identify the states that do not report crime to the FBI. In each of the 21 states on this list, at least a third of law enforcement agencies did not submit crime data to the FBI in 2021.

@Secretlyanothername 5 дней назад

Just a bunch of parrot accounts who repeat whatever they've heard. Kind of like the people the video talks about

@danielponcianodiaz176 8 дней назад

To Americans poverty is a crime.

@oldvlognewtricks 8 дней назад

And critical thinking

@1337billybob 8 дней назад

Poverty is criminalized. As far as I know the origins of that criminalization come out as a reaction to slavery only being legalized for people who are convicted and imprisoned.

@mgabriel2636 8 дней назад

@1337billybob poverty related behaviors.

@AwesomeBlackDude 8 дней назад

Not having rent control is poverty.

@JZTechEngineering 8 дней назад

@@AwesomeBlackDudeno

@abba7707 6 дней назад

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@longiusaescius2537 6 дней назад

@Kessoku hiragana in name?

@xvx4848 8 дней назад

That's because they listen to the media and the media says crime is high so they can hook eyeballs to watch ads. As far as I'm concerned the media has destroyed their credibility.

@ReadThisOnly 8 дней назад

Nightcrawler should be required reading

@yucol5661 8 дней назад

It’s entertaining to feel like you know what’s happening or like you are making hostile safer by knowing some secret dark truth. Same as armchair political commentators or people who do their reasearch and find a miracle diet tea

@muhcharona 7 дней назад

Crime is high, the media is covering for Biden, so why trust it.

@AndreAnyone 7 дней назад

Major city's like LA and NY stopped recording crimes and stopped reporting the numbers to the FBI ever since biden got into office. Google it

@churblefurbles 7 дней назад

This IS the media, bought and paid for by you know who.

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Not the BetterHelp sponsorship

@samphelps856 6 дней назад

💀

@Knytz 5 дней назад

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@arahman56 6 дней назад

Pausing a video about crime to promote a scam...bruh moment.

@judesussman4502 8 дней назад

why on earth were those people just chanting crime in the intro?

@kierangraulich5762 8 дней назад

This was during Kathy Hochul's run for governor in New York. It was extremely offputting to see live, because the protestors looked gleeful that crime was up and they could use it as a cudgel against the governor.

@RyanTenney 7 дней назад

Yeah that sounds about right.

@PlutoTheSynth 7 дней назад

they want more crime crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime! crime!

@Chweemy 6 дней назад

@@PlutoTheSynth thats enough crime ;w;

@currentcommerce4774 6 дней назад

thats they culture, dont be racist

@Artyomi 7 дней назад

There is a similar phenomenon when you look at the actual statistics of death versus media coverage of deaths. For example, Homicide makes up 0.9% of all causes of death and terrorism is basically almost 0%, yet the news coverage on homicide is 22% (compared to coverage on other causes) and coverage on terrorism is in the 30% (in 2017 at least). Meanwhile, heart disease makes up about 2-3% of the coverage while 30% of deaths are actually due to heart disease. The news only reports on sensational causes such as homicide, cancer, self-harm, terrorism - but never about slow systemic killers like respiratory disease, Alzheimers, pneumonia, kidney disease, etc.. They’ll also only mention drug overdoses to say it’s a problem, not who it’s happening to and why and how to solve it. Same goes with crime - they’ll report on the sensational homicides happening in populated areas, or talk about the poverty on the streets, but never about the actual systemic causes of the suffering that leads to crime, or the crime that happens on a daily basis to disadvantaged communities (unless they wanna demonize them).

@latte2297 6 дней назад

Like fear around nuclear reactors. The accident rate is superrrr low but because they're so televised when they do happen, people are fearful to have one near them even though there's so many beenfits.

@merrymachiavelli2041 6 дней назад

It's also true within homicides, we have a really skewed idea about who murders who. Unless you're involved with organised crime or have an abusive present/former partner, you are phenomenally unlikely to be murdered. Especially if you're a woman.

@RubNebur 6 дней назад

THE FAUX NEWS EFFECT.

@orionxtc1119 5 дней назад

homicide almost 1%? that is a lot....it is far lower in most countries

@AndreAnyone 5 дней назад

@furburp 8 дней назад

unfortunate betterhelp jumpscare :/

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@samphelps856 6 дней назад

Yes

@Adrian-uq4yb 8 дней назад

I think a big factor in why Americans feel as though crime has been increasing is because of our media. When we turn on the tv, whether it’s the local news, or national news channels like CNN, Fox, CBS, MSNBC, etc. you’re more than likely gonna run into at least one story talking about someone getting killed, or robbed, or assaulted, or something else along those lines; and it’s because those stories interest people more than something along the lines of, “This zoo welcomed a new animal.” “Our city has just elected a new comptroller.” “The public library has bought a thousand new books.” I’m no different, in my city a security guard at my old high school was shot while breaking up a fight, and one of the first things I did when I heard that news was turn on the TV to hear my mayors press conference on the shooting. News channels jobs are to tell the people what is happening around them, but it’s also to get views, and talking about crime is one major way to get more people listening to you, and in turn get more money. But it also leads to a somewhat warped perception of reality, because when these for profit companies constantly talk about crime in order to get people to listen to them, it in turn leads people to believe that crime is everywhere, even if that isn’t true.

@kingace6186 8 дней назад

Yup. The 4th Estate needs some common sense regulation. First of all, willingly disinforming the public show be considered fraud.

@Acidfunkish 8 дней назад

The news media depends on FUD. It doesn't help that Sinclair Broadcast Group, alone, has something like 30-40% of audience capture, alone, in the US. With the highest number of "must runs" blasted across "local" news stations. No one should be permitted to have that much power over perception.

@BuildinWings 8 дней назад

And they show images of poverty when talking about crime that's completely unrelated.

@ROBLOXGamingDavid 8 дней назад

In a way, the more tougher in crime laws may might as well push them onto a darker path, leading to the very situation they are trying to prevent... Enacting perception based laws without hearing any context when they need to constantly talk about every crime story is dangerous.

@bryjam 8 дней назад

Fear sells. It's that simple.

@Facetiously.Esoteric 8 дней назад

As with numerous other issues, a big part of the problem is news networks needing to create drama in a bid for viewers. Add social media who will say anything for money to that equation, and we end up where we are now.

@SRMkay 5 дней назад

So I live in Philadelphia, and I've lived here for 3 years. Part of the issue with these surveys is that people will tend to remember a spike in crime for much longer than a period of relative safety, and they may believe that a crime spike is still ongoing much longer than it actually is. Around the pandemic, there was a fair bit of looting downtown--not uncommon to see a store with boarded windows after a break-in. After the pandemic, the "Kia Boys" challenge saw a spike in vehicle theft. Once Kia/Hyundai recalled the affected vehicles, there was a new issue with roaming gangs of teenagers entering stores en masse and shoplifting stuff, using their numbers to get away with it. All of those problems have subsided for the most part, but things like that stick in people's minds. People may delude themselves into thinking looters are still breaking into pandemic-shuttered stores in 2024, or car thieves are still targeting Kias and Hyundais despite them receiving a security update a year ago. Bad experiences tend to make a bigger impression on our minds than good ones.

@micahbush5397 7 дней назад

What, you mean Americans form their opinions based on what they _think_ is true, regardless of whether it actually aligns with reality? That's a shocker.

@ericbartol 5 дней назад

LOL It couldn't have been caused by a scare mongering news media bent on scaring people into watching them 24-7, could it?

@lynn4780 5 дней назад

you just did the same by generalizing all americans

@ericbartol 5 дней назад

@@lynn4780 Actually, no. One is GENERALIZING. One is SENSATIONALIZING.

@chrischika7026 5 дней назад

@@ericbartol no diifference but cope.

@ericbartol 5 дней назад

@@chrischika7026 There is a difference. Check your dictionary.

@SuperMustache555 8 дней назад

I'd love to see a video about why crime fell so sharply in the '90s

@ml6158 7 дней назад

Unleaded gasoline

@davianoinglesias5030 6 дней назад

It was the hey days of the tech industry and money was plenty

@randomnobody8770 6 дней назад

Economist Steven Levitt proved that about 30-50% of the drop was caused by increased abortion access. The data was reanalyzed recently (about 20 years after the initial paper) and it held up extremely well. Other major causes are removal of leaded gasoline ~20 years prior, and an aging population bulge (crime is very, very, very tightly correlated with age), plus more police.

@JanjayTrollface 6 дней назад

Michael Jordan.

@SuperMustache555 6 дней назад

@@randomnobody8770 How would an increase in abortion access reduce crime? What's the causal link there? Could you also explain what leaded gasoline is and how its removal might lead to the reduction in crime?

@chaosfenix 8 дней назад

I think that perception is also affected by how well an individual experiences crime. What I mean is that in the 90s when you saw a news story about a violent crime you would potentially see police tape or at most someone in a hospital. Now, thanks to everyone having really good cameras in their pockets and surveillance cameras being so cheap, you don't see the scene of the crime but you get to watch the crime itself. You see the gun fight or you see the person being beat with a hammer. It really changes your perception of how safe you feel. Before it was just a statistic, but with the video you see it in all of its brutality. The brutality hasn't changed but how you experience it definitely has. Edit: Also wanted to add that just because the rate is decreasing doesn't mean it still isn't too high. Our homicide rate is much higher than most developed nations with our homicide rate of 6.4/100k being much closer to Russia's 6.8 and El Salvador's 7.8 than Canada's 2.3 or Norway's 0.6. It is better but we still have a long ways to go.

@Lyoko920 7 дней назад

This is a great point. I’m too young to remember the 90s, but I do remember the time before we were able to watch high quality crime footage on our devices 24/7. Watching the actual crime is more immersive than something like an interview with the victim. Even if it’s an unlikely event, watching it happen to a random person makes it feel like that could be you or a loved one.

@churblefurbles 7 дней назад

@Lyoko920 Still not, they are fudging the numbers while people are cocooning in response.

@chrisball3778 6 дней назад

I remember the 90's and there were loads of shows like Cops and World's Wildest Police Videos that used video footage of crimes as entertainment, and lots of sensationalised crime reporting. There's more video footage out there than ever, but there's always been a huge appetite for it and mass-consumption of crime footage is not a new phenomenon at all. Newspapers in the 1930's used to regularly print graphic crime scene photos that would be heavily censored in today's press. There was widespread scare mongering about crime back in the 90's as well, leading to drastic increases in incarceration during the period and the proliferation of harsh anti-crime measures such as three strikes laws and mandatory minimum sentences. Unfortunately the disconnect between the public perception of crime and the reality has been around a long time.

@oddfox6776 5 дней назад

If we can get it to a record low America will improve a lot!!!

@tarico4436 3 дня назад

Nice comment, chaos; can I pile on? Why indeed did crime drop so much during the 90s? One, many more cameras near downtown streets and at businesses were installed in the late 80s and early 90s, and two, DNA evidence became admissible in our courtrooms in 1987. News that your DNA could now lead to your conviction gradually spread after 1987; this prompted a lot fewer false accusations--which is a crime--as well as cut back on other crimes. Anybody else? What else caused this, for instance, halving of our unaliving rate (since 1990)? (Note: America is halfway up that list, unalivings per 100,000 per year. There are about 210 countries who keep stats on unalivings, and we're about 105.)

@alexaramachandran7392 8 дней назад

Vox still being sponsored by betterhelp 🙄

@HercadosP 8 дней назад

That's the real crime being committed here, sponsoring scams that actively ruin people's lives while calling it therapy

@kyle1751 8 дней назад

Did they do something wrong?

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They may not be able to get out of an ongoing contract.

@alecjahn 8 дней назад

@@jebkermen6087 That money comes from regular people like you and I.

@pusicer 8 дней назад

poverty could lead to crime but poverty =/= crime. There are neighborhoods in New York City that are in average to below average median income yet still have very low crime rate.

@BuildinWings 8 дней назад

The poverty = crime perception is why people think crime is rising. Our media spends so much time telling them poor people are criminals that they think of the trappings of poverty as signs of criminality.

@brandon9172 8 дней назад

What resources are available to people in those neighborhoods though? They could have better access to food banks, homeless shelters, housing assistance, free/low income clinics, and other programs, and that won't necessarily show up in income statistics despite having a huge impact on a communities well being.

@longiusaescius2537 6 дней назад

@brandon9172 It's not poverty

@dontmisunderstand6041 5 дней назад

Median income is also middle class. There's a huge difference between below average and poor. 38k per year is good money. Like, that's an income that lets you not be in debt AND build up a nest egg for emergencies. You could have at least given an example of an impoverished community for your purposes if you wanted to make that point.

@Digger-Nick 4 дня назад

Because it's not about poverty and never was lol. It's all pure deflection

@arothmanmusic 8 дней назад

Politics is all about perception. It doesn't matter whether people *are* safe - only whether they *feel* safe. Perceptions can only be swayed by statistics if the people trust those providing the data. Nobody trusts anyone who gives them stats that run counter to how they feel.

@imdownwithjoshbrown 8 дней назад

didn't want to pull the sponsor on this video? Maybe you can do a video about how they're selling user health data

@samphelps856 6 дней назад

Yes

@DreadedLad88 6 дней назад

You russian bots are really trying to control that crime narrative lol

@LeetHaxington 2 дня назад

Weird how my car gets broken into if I leave it in public any weekend. It’s just like a perpetual free reign for criminals to steal cars. It’s like a daily problem. Police don’t do anything. Weird how I have multiple police reports. I guess I just imagined that. weird how insurance companies are just stealing money through auto charge and not providing any service or payout. Weird. I guess I’m just imagining that money leaving my account. I guess it’s just a silly imaginary hallucination I’m having.

@mrECisME 5 дней назад

Crime can't go up if you make it not a crime.

@angiersj 5 дней назад

being homeless is not a crime.

@christophers707 5 дней назад

@@angiersj I don't think hes referring to that but some places have decriminalized certain crimes or have made police response non existent so reporting those crimes don't happen.

@joshieecs 4 дня назад

which is why cops crimes aren't in the data, or else police would be the #1 source of crime, second only to bosses stealing from employees and landlords scamming renters.

@Digger-Nick 4 дня назад

@@angiersj Homelessness has nothing to do with this conversation

@dystropyko 2 дня назад

Obviously didnt watch the video, this is about violent crime specifically, that will always get punishment like homicide.

@JC19999 6 дней назад

Americans are wrong about crime increasing, but the levels we're at now are still pretty appalling when compared to other developed/affluent nations. My city's top 20 globally in crime index, but if you ask the folks who live here, they'll tell you that it's not so bad. And in one sense they're right; people still work, and love, and life goes on. But in another sense, they're just accustomed to living in one of the most violent cities in the world. And there's a lot of US cities like that. Americans might be wrong about the details, but they're right in thinking that we could do better.

@melon5111 22 часа назад

I think most the issue comes from the fact that a lot of the platforms that exist are almost promising a "return" to lower crime rates; rather than actually doing something to decrease the crime rates we've always had. Crime is decreasing steadily, but since people believe its increasing, they are looking for a return to the past where they *feel* crime was not as bad- when it in fact was much worse.

@mikami5799 5 дней назад

so only violent crime count as crime? Robbery and theft don’t count?

@DesertDweller1 4 дня назад

Its simple, at least in some parts of California, if you call the police the just won't show up...and they don't consider certain things "crimes" anymore.

@Katxune 3 часа назад

Respect to the police though. Instead of going after neigblhbor disputes they're out there catching the real bad guys.

@michaeljurney8354 3 дня назад

just because theyve stopped arresting people for a LOT of crimes, doesnt mean the crime rate is decreasing.

@GiantJack89 8 дней назад

Worth noting, most Chicagoans don’t limit their definition of downtown to the neighborhood officially known as the loop. Many would include much more than that going through the north, northwest, west and south corridors. That is important to consider when evaluating responses that don’t supply a definition for “downtown”

@tylerbhumphries 6 дней назад

I’m not from Chicago but I completely understand. I was born and raised in St. Louis. St. Louis has high crime rates but our rates wouldn’t be as high if they simply included the greater St. Louis metro area when reporting the crime rates. There are so many people who say they’re from St. Louis but really they’re from a county of St. Louis. You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s all St. Louis or it’s all separate. A lot of the counties are too small to support themselves so they don’t have their own paid police or fire departments but they still want to be counted as separate while receiving aid from the city. And even within the city limits, I see stuff like this happen all the time. North St. Louis has high poverty and high crime rates. But let a violent crime happen 2 or 4 miles away in a different part of the city and the news will still report it as North St. Louis crime even while telling you what street it happened on. It’s ridiculous.

@cantbothernaming 8 дней назад

So true, classic moral panic

@haitiancreolewithluciano 8 дней назад

yep!

@Littlegoblinfatface 8 дней назад

Literally fear mongering their viewers into using scam ai pseudoscience

@blazer9547 8 дней назад

Still high for a developed nation

@churblefurbles 7 дней назад

@blazer9547 Much worse, even when fudged the numbers are further suppressed by the fact that the kids no longer play outside.

@frishter 6 дней назад

Let's also talk about the moral panic of those claiming that democracy will end.

@macattack1958 7 дней назад

Crime is going up though look at the data from the NCVS

@longiusaescius2537 6 дней назад

Yup

@alexbanks9510 8 дней назад

Better help? Disappointed

@EndeZorlu 3 дня назад

Why?

@johnchessant3012 8 дней назад

The challenge is that people react most to visceral anecdotes, and in any place with a population in the millions, whether crime goes up or down, there will be enough crime every day to fill a segment on the news. So the only way to know is from dry statistics like the FBI data, which are easier to dismiss if people are already predisposed to believing the opposite.

@fubytv731 8 дней назад

People are paranoid and tend to overexaggerate. What else is new.

@longiusaescius2537 6 дней назад

@fubytv731 Look at my Asian Americans dawg... ignoring ncvs... Cant even do math now! Grandparents cry

@rawbird5341 4 дня назад

Crime has gone down because you have changed the definition of crime. People also don’t bother to report anymore.

@jesseburgess88 3 дня назад

Agreed they don't give you the definition of a violent crime and largely only look at the homicide rates. And found it rather peculiar they didn't mention the fentanyl epidemic when referencing homelessness but did mention a single statement cherrypicked from trump and biden when talking about safety.

@wagnerdias9908 6 дней назад

The distance between rate crime and rate crime perception also is amazing in Brazil, and this gap is aggravated by political speech distortions.

@HeiMiBR 3 дня назад

What about "nonviolent" crimes that actually shut down businesses? This video seems to avoid this?

@terrancelopez9631 8 дней назад

Lets talk about: White-collar Crime, Wage Theft, Tax Crime, PPP Loan Fraud, Police Crime,

@truetech4158 8 дней назад

Rome is all about the white collar crime.

@alexisevanger7458 8 дней назад

Arguably the biggest crime issue we ACTUALLY have. These crimes help create the conditions for most others.

@WasiuGiwa-ul4hs 8 дней назад

How about gun violence, drug trafficking, gang violence

@alexisevanger7458 8 дней назад

@@WasiuGiwa-ul4hs again, largely precipitated by white collar crime.

@M-Soares 7 дней назад

@@WasiuGiwa-ul4hs All have been going down since the 90s, that is explicitly stated in the video you clearly didn't watch.

@oyuyuy День назад

It isn't the slightest bit contradictory to say that 'crime is a serious issue - but not in my area'. Bad areas is an issue regardless if you live there or not.

@petersmythe6462 4 дня назад

There are three kinds of people: 1. Those who see crime happening on the streets. 2. Those who see crime happening on the news. 3. Those who see crime happening in the numbers. Group 2 are operating with zero, or effectively zero information. They're not multiplying the murder rate per whatever by life expectancy and calculating the expected QALY cost due to the chance of being murdered due to lifestyle change XYZ. They're not looking at what's happening in the world and reacting accordingly either. They're looking at the news and the news always says one thing "there was a murder somewhere in the country today." If murder got 30 times better or worse it would do the same thing. They are completely insensitive to *actual* changes in crime rate, only to what an opinion-based partisan media ecosystem SAYS the crime rate is doing. This is the vast majority of Americans who take neither a data driven nor direct experience approach but rather one that is based on anecdote and feelings rather than anything else.

@UnlimitedEmeralds 6 дней назад

On average violent crime has gone down, literally dropped like a rock since the 90s. The number one issue now is that citizens are trying to report being the victim of crimes and the police either refuse to show up altogether or they simply don’t care and refuse to file a report. I have been the victim of three crimes in the past few years and every single time the police refused to help me. Two hit and runs, and one assault…the police really did not care and did nothing to help me, they wouldn’t even fill out a report to help with car insurance. Even in the most liberal areas, a crime is a crime, it may be a misdemeanor but that is 100% a crime that goes on your record permanently. So I don’t believe these numbers for a second. All the data tells me is how many people have been the victim of the corrupt police. These numbers honestly make me laugh because of how similar it is to the supposed record breaking low unemployment rate. Oh and the millions of jobs added every year, yeah sure buddy.

@tristan7216 5 дней назад

It's called COMSTAT. That's software that police departments use to track crime stats and plan policing. The police are gaming their numbers by ignoring as much as they can, because districts that get bad numbers are penalized.

@jamescorrall6535 6 дней назад

Maybe I'm being simplistic but its sounds like tackling homelessness would make people feel less anxious about crime whilst also getting people back into society and maybe even long term increasing tax revenue for the government if the get jobs etc So....do that?

@kenlandon6130 6 дней назад

NIBMYs won't let that happen on their watch.

@halleradam 6 дней назад

Homelessness is a super complex issue, but yeah, greedy existing homeowners (same one afraid of crime) collude to use zoning to prevent new housing supply. NIMBYs are evil.

@ret2pop 5 дней назад

It's not that easy because a lot of homeless people have permanent and expensive to treat mental health problems. But yes, that would work for everyone that doesn't fall in that category. As someone who knows someone who does work in this area, it's not as easy as you think.

@oddfox6776 5 дней назад

@@ret2popyeah but is still possible, itll be expensive but we could perhaps construct a better future for homeless people, and our nation in general!

@Stars-Mine 4 дня назад

but then you are giving money to the "poors", we cant have that, hand outs and all that, for reasons

@poorlythoughoutdecisions День назад

People in New York see empty shelves and everything behind plexiglass at Walgreens. That doesn't help.

@melon5111 22 часа назад

There isn't a supply shortage in new york? there was during covid, but that was the same everywhere

@Will-wb6nk 8 дней назад

I live in the most dangerous town in Colorado, supposedly. It doesn't feel dangerous here, but our crime rate is almost as high as Detroit

@SometimesCompitent 3 дня назад

neoliberalism leads to homelessness. visible homelessness makes people more reactionary. they vote for more neoliberalism. repeat, repeat, repeat.

@antoinet.6895 3 дня назад

That's also what i'd have posted if i was a midwit.

@ravanadevadas3770 6 дней назад

there is no crime citizen. there is nothing to be concerned about

@jiachengwu4185 5 дней назад

Nothing to see here; please disperse 😂

@melon5111 22 часа назад

I love how so much of public discourse is about how "they" don't let the outside opinions happen, when literally the main conversations happening are about whatever the "they" is lol

@posthocprior 8 дней назад

More rigorous statistical analysis is needed. One example: use regression coefficients to quantify the relationship between mentions of crime in the news and the percentage of Americans who say crime is high. For instance, this could be done with time series analysis. One time series could be the percentage who say crime is high and the other time series could be the number of mentions of, say, homicide in national news broadcasts. Then, use a fast Fourier transform to get just the frequency domain of each time series. Now, find a regression fit between these two time series. The coefficient can tell you a lot about why people say crime is high. If, say, the coefficient is relatively constant. This means that people are always afraid. That is, their concerns fluctuate between various causes and motivations. If it’s highly variable, then more data analysis can be done to see what people are actually afraid of.

@TheNewLooter 3 дня назад

It's not all about violent crime though. People see the recent shoplifting meta and that nothing is being done to combat it. It's very likely that this area is heavily underreported because the police will not do anything anyway.

@stackhat8624 3 дня назад

So what you're saying is that when the stats don't say what you want you move goalposts and make it something else? Violent crime down? Make the conversation about shoplifting.

@domerame5913 3 дня назад

@@stackhat8624 People get uncomfortable when they find out they've been fooled by pixels on a screen. Hence the deflection all over the comments

@TheNewLooter 3 дня назад

@@stackhat8624 No? The video itself keeps bringing up the Gallup poll and the question clearly is "is there more crime in the US than there was a year ago?". Crime, not violent crime. Then they keep bringing up "ummm ackshyually, violent crime is down". So the whole video is built on a non sequitur.

@shawnfoogle920 3 дня назад

Cost of living ( or just surviving ) keeps going up every year. The obvious outcome is more homeless and crime. Just rent alone is waaaaaay too high, never affordable. But if people are shoplifting food. I hope the police do nothing because clearly the person doesn't need extra punishments for surviving.

@TheNewLooter 3 дня назад

@@shawnfoogle920 The reality is, honest shoppers are the ones who cover the losses from shoplifting. The recent shoplifting trend has nothing to do with survival either. Letting petty crimes slide is not how you ever improve society.

@raf22nd 8 дней назад

The real crime is Betterhelp being a sponsor

@RageStreemYT 2 дня назад

In Portland Oregon, there is actually more crime being done downtown than in any other neighborhood.

@tarico4436 3 дня назад

Algo is our friend, but why did crime drop a huge amount in the early 90s? Please add to my tiny list. One, many more cameras near downtown streets and at businesses were installed in the late 80s and early 90s, and two, DNA evidence became admissible in our courtrooms in 1987. News that your DNA could now lead to your conviction gradually spread after 1987; this prompted a lot fewer false accusations as well as cut back on crime. Again, please add to my list. What else caused this, for instance, halving of our unaliving rate?

@antoinet.6895 3 дня назад

democratization of cell phones and rapid improvement in first aid care (we call it SAMU and SMUR in France & Belgium, don't know what's the american equivalent) over the same period as well.

@MrLuffy9131 4 дня назад

You realize people are moving out of San Francisco

@stormer7502 6 дней назад

the people within the "tough on crime" crowd who I know tell me their entire set of evidence for this illusive "out of control crime" is "I think there are more security guards in stores" and "that one incident I saw on the news the other day which happened 20 miles away." We live in the exact same neighborhood, have largely the same exact local experiences, yet somehow reach completely different conclusions. The differentiating factor is media consumption. I'm just not plugged into media constantly reporting on every little bad thing which happens in a 100 mile radius to turn a profit, or worse, media which very explicitly tries to sell a narrative of rampant crime.

@longiusaescius2537 6 дней назад

@stormer7502 ignoring FBI change moment

@suburbanhomestead 6 дней назад

Add to that the fact that social media algorithms feed off of emotional reaction rather than rational reflection and we have the perfect storm for panic.

@shawnfoogle920 3 дня назад

Cost of living keeps going up every year. Obviously crime and homelessness will rise.

@Ash-yt1eh 4 дня назад

Come visit Chicago in the summer for 3 months and update this

@Phlegethon 7 дней назад

Easy to say there's no crime in gated communities

@BrokeredHeart День назад

I work in a downtown office that is part of a larger business district. With so many companies and government offices switching to remote or hybrid work, this has generated a lot of vacant leases and a significant drop in daily pedestrians and patrons to local businesses. Not only has this increased visibility of our homeless crisis and abundant drug use that was already there prior to pandemic lockdowns, it has led to an increase in car collisions and cycling accidents because people feel more confident driving at higher speeds when there are fewer people, but still high volumes of vehicular traffic. It's not an increase in crime, it's this void being filled, often by people who see this space as transitory, a place to pass through but not stay in, not interacting with the neighborhood blocks outside the confines of their car. Our city has been trying to devise ways of attracting new people to come to the downtown core, offering more hospitality and personal care services, building new apartment complexes close to major transit hubs, and investing in public goods like a new mid-sized music venue, and a brand new public library and digital archive. We're still a few years away from seeing what that will do for the improvement of our downtown sector, while still needing to address the social and moral failings of substandard care for our most vulnerable - the elderly, the unhoused, the disabled, and the very young. Offering them more opportunities to be seen as integral parts of our city's fabric while ensuring they have reliable access to the services and goods they need will hopefully revitalize my home city.

@hereticalgames3695 6 дней назад

This isn’t actually accurate. 1. the numbers are still higher than pre pandemic which means that over five years it is up. 2. There have been changes in the way it gets recorded. Functionally nullifying your ability to compare.

@calebdunlap7566 7 дней назад

Something major of note that’s missing from this discussion is the fact that many, many police depts aren’t even reporting their crime stats anymore. And another thing to note- people just straight up are starting to not call the police when a crime is committed because of the massive distrust towards police and many police depts becoming incompetent at responding to crimes. I know from personal experience, since I used to live in a high crime area. When things happened to us (a guy pulling out a gun on us, someone trying to break into our car, someone across the street being beat to death), we used to call the police. They’d take 30-45 minutes to show up, and even when they did get there, there was a few occasions in which they threatened to ticket us for something random. When someone pulled a gun on my fiancée in the backyard, the police straight up said there was nothing they could do after taking 30 minutes to arrive and threatened to ticket us for our grass being too long. This was not a one time thing. We for the most part just stopped trying to call. Don’t let people gaslight you into thinking crime isn’t getting worse; it is. And it will continue to get worse as poverty keeps growing, life keeps getting more unaffordable, and capitalism keeps eating away at the American people here

@ElyonDominus 7 дней назад

Police crime statistics are also completely useless. They arrest you when a crime happens and they arrest you when a crime doesn't happen. They shoot when they want a vacation and justify it after the fact. Utter trash and useless yet we worship pork so they're held up as being reputable.

@lana-jg4ho 6 дней назад

i share the same sentiments.

@DreadedLad88 6 дней назад

This is a personal anecdote, with no facts supporting it. Youre actually are feeding directly into the point this video is making... There is a group of Americans that have been so terrified by news and fearmongering that you've lost touch with reality.

@Digger-Nick 4 дня назад

It's not about police distrust, it's about the county not prosecuting and downplaying crime.

@Digger-Nick 4 дня назад

@@DreadedLad88 Classic projection, inflate the problem and when anyone addresses it tell them they've lost touch with reality. You people are so lost

@Komentujebomoge32 5 дней назад

Why most of the links are displaying: that the page was not found, or some are not on the topic?

@lexrothschild2324 3 дня назад

yeah , stores are just shutting down because of how "safe" things are lol

@shawnfoogle920 3 дня назад

that's greed tbh. Lose a small percentage of the high profits, leave

@ikeekieeki 3 дня назад

myth. retailers admitted to exaggerating the impact of shoplifting on branch closures

@blondie7240 2 дня назад

I live in Seattle and my brother lives in Portland. Crime is definitely not dropping. We both witness assaults every other weak. Crime is down because it’s not being counted any more.

@jcehlert 8 дней назад

The stats are out for this year and crime went...DOWN again! In fact, it dropped in every major category. Murders down 24% from LAST year. The lack of social programs and mental health care is more of an issue in our cities than is crime. Let's address those issues, and we have a chance to make crime an anomaly.

@DigSamurai 8 дней назад

As long as the Republican presidential candidate uses fear to get votes the problem will get worse. Apparently a lot of Americans are gullible.

@chrisja1998 6 дней назад

Yup

@skillbopster 5 дней назад

Because some of the police forces and cities have stopped reporting the numbers you clown!

@realcake76 6 дней назад

Can we talk about the relationship between race and crime without it becoming racist?

@jardy630 8 дней назад

dawg how are you of all people pushing betterhelp? seriously, you should know better

@FreddieVee 8 дней назад

Public misconception is nothing new. A few months before the 2016 election, I met 2 men at Walmart. One was born in the same month as I during WW2 and the other was younger than our grandchildren. They both believed crime, taxes and immigration were at each an all-time highs. Actually, crime was at a 50 year low, taxes were less than 50% of what it was when the older gentleman and I were in elementary school, and immigration was net negative.

@whatisahandle221 6 дней назад

I still am flabbergasted that anyone thinks getting a pay raise that would put your salary just slightly about the (progressive) next tax bracket means you would take home less money. Everyone should have to fill out a 1040 as part of their annual high school history/civics class.

@JohnSmith-rj1rm 4 дня назад

I looked at New York City crime stats for each police precinct and it’s all up especially the ones by migrant hotels

@Chris-ng8du 8 дней назад

conflating homelessness with criminality is very telling

@DesmondKarani 7 дней назад

I'm not American but from what I have read and observed about Americans, I can guarantee you that race is a significant factor in how most of them feel about homelessness and crime.

@yulin84 6 дней назад

@@DesmondKaraniwhat?

@drksideofthewal 5 дней назад

@@yulin84 I thought that much was common knowledge.

@Digger-Nick 4 дня назад

@@DesmondKarani Homelessness no, crime yes. Specific races commit insanely disproportionate amounts of violent crime

@vietle8157 8 дней назад

What do you call it when police don't show up to your call to make a report?

@thisfooreallysaid 8 дней назад

Laziness

@desmond-hawkins 8 дней назад

Unsurprising.

@kingace6186 8 дней назад

You call that living in the hood. Crime is always higher in the hood becauses of the foundational systemic issues that created the hood.

@FlowersInHisHair 8 дней назад

The result of perception-based public safety policies

@zahrahp535 8 дней назад

But they show up when there is a literal corpse and murder rate has decreased.

@SquizzMe 8 дней назад

Isn't BetterHelp a scam? When did Vox become this disreputable?

@churblefurbles 7 дней назад

Always been, look at the comment count vs views. This channel was founded to push the party, stated plainly by its founder at Microsoft presentation many years ago.

@IchorX 6 дней назад

You people have no idea what you're talking about.

@stephaniepantera 6 дней назад

great example of how irrelevant statistics are to individual experience. "CrIme in America" is the last thing im thinking about when there are drugs and guns all over my once safe and beautiful city

@dontmisunderstand6041 5 дней назад

What are you talking about? You literally give examples of the crimes you're thinking about after claiming not to be thinking about "Crime in America" while thinking about them.

@JVR2019 6 дней назад

I want to help the poor and the homeless. The fear in me makes me worried about the homeless on drugs, acting violently without even intending to. Could also cover the statistics on drugs in the same areas which is an important aspect of this topic?

@eyesburning 7 дней назад

What about car break-ins in let's say...San Francisco? xD

@FlowersInHisHair 8 дней назад

Betterhelp isn't a great sponsor

@MyMajorJohnson 8 дней назад

5:11 and there you go. The majority and rise in crime isn't being report/covered in these neighbourhoods of "disadvantage" people. So what people are experiencing isn't what's been shown because of what it might implicate for yourself. Not to say the opposite with fear mongering about crime is honest either. But we need a neutral, honest coverage of crime.

@thumbhead3370 5 дней назад

"homeless people aren't the problem it's just that you see them more because there aren't any beds in psychiatric hospitals" vox says while advocating for homeless people to never be put in psychiatric hospitals even when they try to push people in front of trains.

@freddyfrug3940 4 дня назад

Despite sentencing guidelines which are harsher, and incarceration rates which have been higher, the murder and non-negligent manslaughter rate in Louisiana has been higher than that in any other state over the last 34 straight years according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report. That's true because Louisiana has been tough on crime, but not so tough on murder over that span.

@MidnightsDeluxe 6 дней назад

Better help is terrible stop promoting this

@fredip8594 8 дней назад

really like the editing in vox videos generally, but the bit at the beginning with the overlapping news casters stood out to me this episode.

@AMENTALL1Z4RD 4 дня назад

You didn't mention anything about all of the DA's that are refusing to prosecute crime. Crime IS going up, the stats are just being artificially deflated. Keep up the gaslighting tho...

@SchuyGuy День назад

It's such gaslighting: "Larceny offenses in New York City have spiked by 51 percent between 2017 and 2023. Robberies, grand larceny and petit larceny in New York City are up by 86 percent during that same time period." That's coming from the governor's office of NY which is known for being "soft on crime" too, but sure tell us how crime is at an all time low @Vox

@sethjaffe9095 6 дней назад

I used to live in the Avenues neighborhood of Salt Lake City. I did not start getting break in attempts to my ground floor apartment until 2020. It has legitimately getting worse along with the homeless problem since then.

@juliuscaesar8163 5 дней назад

This video reminds me of the skit "Here's Why You're Wrong" by The Onion.

@JJs_playground 8 дней назад

As the saying goes, *"If it bleeds, it leads".*

@kylemalachowski 12 часов назад

The news plays a HUGE part in this. The news reports every gun shooting and people don’t understand that these types of acts are incredibly rare generally. Not to mention they happen (very broadly) mostly among people that know each other in neighborhoods outside the “downtown” of cities. Still, it’s hard to put that into context. Reporting shootings and violence gets clicks

@bubbaowww590 8 дней назад

One thing I would add to this is that Americans by instinct tend to blame...certain... groups of people for problems like crime. "Poverty doesn't cause crime, crime causes poverty," that kind of thing. And the comments you see if you scroll down about "13% doing 52%" - those people are getting at an idea that's very gross and shameful (they'd say it explicitly if it wasn't) but also kind of baked into the American character. The R word, baby! USA.

@aimeem 8 дней назад

Yeah, surprised they didn't mention it.

@mgabriel2636 8 дней назад

@@aimeem party of Lincoln the emancipator, and all.

@webby2275 8 дней назад

These people are just not facing reality. Go to an impoverished rural area, like Appalachia, and look at how much crime there can be. But of course, that kind of stuff isn't on the news much, and it's generally less populated, so less have firsthand experience in impoverished rural areas so its less known.

@avonlave 8 дней назад

I always try to get them to explicitly state what they think that stat shows. To me, it shows that Black Americans are more marginalized, poorer, confined to worse neighborhoods with worse schools and worse employment opportunities, can't afford good lawyers, and are targeted by police more. To racists, it shows that Black Americans are inherently more criminal and violent. But yeah they're too chickenshit to even come out and say it directly.

@brandon9172 8 дней назад

@webby2275 It's also generally more hidden in rural areas, just as homelessness and drug addiction is. People conflate their lack of knowledge of these things happening with a lack of them happening.

@stynkanator 8 дней назад

In America feelings don’t care about your facts

@ElyonDominus 7 дней назад

If anything we care too much about feelings and not enough about facts.

@AdorianDelmore 5 дней назад

That's why they say in my country when they don't want to listen. "You are as blind as an American"

@Meagan-Renee 8 дней назад

Please don't endorse BetterHelp. Their practices are on a spectrum from unethical to abusive for both the professionals who work with them and those seeking support.

@RichardServello 11 часов назад

The perception issue reminds me of when surveying people if they think most people are trustworthy. The majority said no. When asked if they are trustworthy the majority said yes.

@jonathanfray5397 8 дней назад

Oh boy, 😊can’t wait for the comments

@ROBLOXGamingDavid 8 дней назад

BetterHelp, and America's poorest reception of crime despite what the data tells them otherwise, serve as a gold bar on a platter to striek at someone's....-- _(I can't say due to RU-vid's authoritarian automated comment moderation systems)_

@gubwhdjnvkanc 8 дней назад

vox should know better... vet your sponsors, or risk your credibility

@teddyghioto 4 дня назад

They dont have any

@Star_sweeper 8 дней назад

Disappointing choice of sponsor.

@truetech4158 8 дней назад

Those eyelon musk crypto scams again?

@Lot_of_thing 6 дней назад

Welcome to reality, where 90% of channels and creators that look to have morals, Will support scams as long as they get paid. Just a bunch of grifters and hipocrites

@Davezlunch 5 часов назад

In many homeless haven cities, they do not charge homeless people who commit common crimes ( public intoxication, petty theft, possession of narcotics, etc) and consider them to be in an emergency situation. Therefore more of these crimes are happening but they don’t lead to arrests.

@WhenIsItUs День назад

No matter which guy they trust, no matter the narrative, both are going to give money to the police.

@Oskaralho88 8 дней назад

do some research about better help, predatory company... L vox

@jonathanleano1863 6 дней назад

To me, what’s missing was what people defined as crime. It did mention that some people thought homelessness was a crime but there are cities out there that aren’t reporting robberies or theft unless a certain dollar amount was stolen.

@tetryst 4 дня назад

yeah, it's hard to see some of the efforts to decriminalize things in california and oregon as anything other than an admission that there is more crime than they can deal with. If we reduce crime rates by legalizing harmful behaviors, is that really a win? But then, how can we factor this into the numbers to get an accurate impression of what's going on?

@nieselregen420 3 дня назад

@@tetrystI wouldn’t post that statement without knowing when these policies were introduced. Context matters and if that existed for 30 years it won’t have an effect on the statistics. It may be “missing” but doesn’t change the overall trend