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Most & Least Profitable Flowers I Grew in 2023: Costs & other factors you may not be considering 

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This was one of my most popular videos last year so I did one for 2023 and guess what. I have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FLOWERS! Plus, I also talk about considerations that go into this profitability equation that may not be so straight forward. I would expect my list to change every year as I change my objectives each season.
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@michellebeatty7899
@michellebeatty7899 7 месяцев назад
I had terrible thrips on my snaps. I applied beneficial nematodes and that worked to knock them back but they are so pricey. I’d say you had an amazing second year and balanced things with the baby very well! Sleep regressions are the pits!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Yay to the beneficial nematodes working! Yes, they're pricey but if they work, they are also helping manage next year's population for you by lowering the number that can overwinter :)!!
@EvelynM-vlogs
@EvelynM-vlogs 7 месяцев назад
As a flower farmer with a very tiny growing area - my whole city lot is only 1/8 acre and that includes the house, the garage, the long driveway - I will always put dahlias as my number 1 profitable flower, and I allot about 1/3 of my growing areas to them. That said, I do pre-start them in my seed room, plant them out May 1st, and had flowers this year before June was over with the first killing frost having just happened. That is was a 5 month blooming period for a prolific, highly sought after, expensive flower. I timed it this year, it only took me 6.17min. per clump to dig, divide, and store the 146 dahlias I grew, and that was working at a comfortable pace. That's not a lot of time. Bringing them out of hibernation in the spring is even faster. If I loose some tubers, it doesn't matter, I don't need to multiply my stock, any extra pre-started dahlias I just sell off. Also, I wanted to say thank you for your well thought out, easy to understand post on your profitable verses nonprofitable flowers. Sorry if my comment last week sounded a bit grumpy but it is something that I feel strongly about. It might be worth also doing a video on why it doesn't make sense to grow too many flowers in too big a space. I know you are already applying this so it should be easy to convert your reasons into a video. Part of the reasons would be overhead. How much fencing do you need, how many grow lights, how much indoor space to grow under grow lights, how much compost or fertilizer is needed, how much bed maintenance. It all adds up and the bigger the growing area the bigger the add up.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
I think the prestarting of dahlias is key and it's something I am definitely considering for next year especially given that I will likely only grow a similar amount of plants next year, so this is totally doable. I totally hear you about the cost piece though. In some ways, I am trying to "unsell" the flower farm dream. I'm always trying to balance not being so gloom and doom but also painting a realistic expectation. This is solid feedback overall and very welcome!
@EvelynM-vlogs
@EvelynM-vlogs 7 месяцев назад
@@bareflowerfarm I was profitable in my first season, but I bucked the trend. I bought $700 worth of dinnerplate dahlia tubers, and spent $100 on a roadside flower wagon. I only sold single stem dinnerplate dahlias, having no time to spend on bouquets as I was working 6 days a week. The wagon was self serve while I was off on jobsites. At the end of the season I had pulled in $2700, stored the tubers at no cost in grocery store paper bags and wood chips from our planer, which I still do.
@sislertx
@sislertx 7 месяцев назад
​@@EvelynM-vlogswell done... I give mine to people as surpises on porch..but i got a.florest.pounding my door..im thinking of selling some...my area is small small small as i converted most beds to veggies...im on a city lot with a lot of shade..bery challenging to say the least.
@EvelynM-vlogs
@EvelynM-vlogs 7 месяцев назад
@@sislertx I say go for it with the florist. That is how I started selling to a wedding florist - sort of. She left a note in my cash box on my flower wagon with her phone number asking if she could purchase my dahlias for upcoming weddings. Funny enough, all the weddings I have supplied her with had interesting colour palettes and none of them where white or pastel. It was/is a super relaxed and easy business arrangement.
@123kellytate
@123kellytate 7 месяцев назад
Discovered you not long ago, but really love your videos. So authentic and open! You are helping build my confidence and that is priceless. Thank you for all you do!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
I so appreciate you taking the time to write this! 😌
@flowergrower1247
@flowergrower1247 7 месяцев назад
I always enjoy watching your videos and I hope you are cutting yourself some slack for this year. Becoming a new mom is a big job and weeds, bugs and contending with clay soil all contributed to some hardships. That being said, your positive attitude shines through and like a true farmer you know things will be better next year. I loved growing green gladiolas for the first time and I will definitely grow more next year. I will not grow persian kress again, it was a jungle and fell over even with stalking it. I bought mountain mint seeds this fall and can hardly wait to grow it next year! I hope my dahlia tubers survive in my potato bin along with all my gladiolas corms. I can't grow tulips where I live, Zone 3 has it's limitations. I will grow yarrow next as well as I bought a package of mixed yarrow seeds from Johnny's but did not get around to planting them. We learn something every year and my horrific weather year this year has taught me volumes. Cheers from Alberta, Canada!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! Yes, definitely cutting myself slack. Pretty proud of how much I grew and learned this year while really trying to be present with the little one! Green gladiolas is interesting! I actually never heard/saw that and i'll have to look it up! I actually grew persian cress last year and I felt it was "meh" for retail. But wholesale buyers love cress so I may be growing some next year since i do have the seed! You definitely have a tricker climate than most folks but it sounds like you are figuring out how to make it work. Thank you for watching from Canada!
@clairegill7891
@clairegill7891 7 месяцев назад
Another great video ! 😊x
@kellythompson2267
@kellythompson2267 7 месяцев назад
LOVE your videos!!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Yay! Thank you!
@torimarie7659
@torimarie7659 7 месяцев назад
I love your context at the start! I think it’s super helpful
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Context is everything! Glad you appreciate that extra color :)
@thecakepopsistars
@thecakepopsistars 7 месяцев назад
I love your videos Jessie! Your genuine passion and analytical approach is refreshing and greatly informative 😊 uggh those dang thrips!!!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate it :). And yes, the dang thrips lol!!
@zoemackay-jq8zh
@zoemackay-jq8zh 7 месяцев назад
Tulips, peonies and dahlias were my most profitable. I’ve made a list of what’s making it through to 2024 and it’s based on a mix of harvest, growing and selling difficulty. It is actually quite a relief to slim things down.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Always a great exercise to undertake! Less is more 😁
@TheUniqueSantana
@TheUniqueSantana 6 месяцев назад
Which zone are you in?
@blakesblooms
@blakesblooms 7 месяцев назад
Very insightful. Now I know what to expect from the sea holly. At the end of day, I wish I had the space like you do to grow more sunflowers.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Haha, I am not the expert on sea holly so definitely look to reputable resources for growing advice! It was hard for me to find on RU-vid so if I learn anything in the spring, I will definitely make a video. Most videos are on starting from seed but not around potential pinching/harvesting. One thing to consider, if you have space outside of a normal bed is growing in crates. I see people growing sunflowers in crates to extend the season. Could be something for you to consider too :)
@blakesblooms
@blakesblooms 7 месяцев назад
@@bareflowerfarm wow...sunflowers in crates! I'm definitely going to give it a try!
@kerricoleman8524
@kerricoleman8524 7 месяцев назад
Awwww. Monica! She is a gem!!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Haha everyone knows Monica! And yes, she is awesome!!
@valeriecolvin6977
@valeriecolvin6977 7 месяцев назад
Just a thought about thrips from a CSA farmer. Thrips don't like to come under cover. Think high tunnels. They don't have to be expensive. Johnny's sold a hoop bender the last time I looked and that's how we make greenhouses, high tunnels and low tunnels. Ag Supply and other greenhouse suppliers often have ends of rolls of plastic that are cheaper. If your experimenting, builders grade plastic should last one season! Just a thought. You don't have to buy kits! The hoop bender will pay for itself again and again over the coarse of years. Happy farming!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
That's interesting! Has that been your experience? I ask because many growers who I know do have thrips in tunnels. It is actually a bit easier to control in tunnels because you can release beneficials and have a better shot at breaking the cycle if you have a good IPM plan. But this is actually the first I've heard that thrips don't like to come under cover!
@iannar-j3740
@iannar-j3740 7 месяцев назад
A note on the lilies! I love them, but I don't often buy them in bouquets, because they are dangerous for cats. Almost all of my loved ones have pets so even though they are beautiful, I think that a ton of people stray away from them for that reason, rather than look/fragrance.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
This is a very fair point. I think lilies are definitely more well known for being toxic to pets even though other plants like tulips can also be toxic but people dont realize!
@magdalenaxo1
@magdalenaxo1 7 месяцев назад
I am in zone 6a. I successfully grew ranunculus for the first time this year and they were amazing producers for me in the spring, so was the sweet william. I can't say enough good things about sweet william. I would say zinnias were my most profitable flower this year. The powdery mildew is a normal thing with zinnias by early September. By that time I just stop selling them. My snapdragons performed badly as well. Not sure why since last year they were wonderful. Your math and knowledge of profit per flower is truly impressive.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
I'm definitely going to give zinnias another shot! I think there's alot of opportunity with them and a part of it is also timing for me. I think if I start them a bit later, I can avoid PM until much later! Congrats on the ranunculus. That's awesome you got some a great harvest!! And thank you for the kind words :)
@magdalenaxo1
@magdalenaxo1 7 месяцев назад
@@bareflowerfarm ii recommend to start zinnias directly outside. Direct sowing has always been the best method for me. I really enjoy your channel. Very informative and interesting. 🙂
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk 5 месяцев назад
Maybe everyone knows and does this, but I just learned about Zinnias. Apparently, they need to be pinched above the first sets of true leaves for better outcome. Does anyone have other advice?
@amberlangford8471
@amberlangford8471 7 месяцев назад
The field next to my flowers was full of wild yarrow this year I foraged so much of it!! But I need to grow some intentionally next year so I can get some of those colors!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Yes yes! 🙌🏼
@wildbirdfarm
@wildbirdfarm 7 месяцев назад
Yes, great info. An especially good reminder to myself to rip out the snaps and not hope for a later flush. I do this every year and then kick myself! 😅
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Sunk cost fallacy is real and I am totally always a sucker for it!
@jessicaschuler2503
@jessicaschuler2503 7 месяцев назад
Thanks Jessie for all your great detail. I grew yarrow from seed this year and it did well in the ground. However. I had trouble with the stems wilting within a day after cutting. How do you get your yarrow to remain healthy enough to sell? Whether to florists or retail? Thanks
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Hi! I’d say that the majority of issues related to yarrow wilting are cutting it too early! Make sure you do the wiggle test. Yarrow needs to be quite mature to harvest or else it totally flops. I ended up doing a video since I didn’t see much on this! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iaZts44fi8g.htmlsi=2CV7wOhOcSme2fE5
@jessicaschuler2503
@jessicaschuler2503 7 месяцев назад
@bareflowerfarm thanks so much and I'll check out the video!
@lindat23
@lindat23 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate your videos Jessie! I mainly listen to your videos while driving and your patreon (page?) isn’t on your main RU-vid page and I couldn’t really find it on your website. Kept wanting to pay your patreon without having to find within the video. Are you allowed to do post on your main RU-vid page/website? I would find that helpful!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much Linda, I saw you found the link! I will add it to the description for others and appreciate you telling me that you listen to me while driving! Something I did not realize many do until recently. I’ll try to make sure the videos have more “talking” 😁
@lindat23
@lindat23 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! Keep doing the great work you’re doing! I’ll listen regardless!
@user-jb4zi8es8r
@user-jb4zi8es8r 7 месяцев назад
Which areas are yarrow averse? Please clarify
@sislertx
@sislertx 7 месяцев назад
Yarrow is spot on for me....BUT AND except it mostly dies in the heat here..unless i give prized areas...shady in after noon...yarrow is iffy where im at. I have resisted lisithiathus for years
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Haha, don't hop on the lisianthus train unless if you're doing it for fun. Yarrow won't do well everywhere. I would say given your age, you would do best with trying to grow natives. Less work, less effort aka more enjoyment and profit!!
@user-dv1gu5jk7j
@user-dv1gu5jk7j 7 месяцев назад
Could you look in to sourcing tulip bulbs from the southern hemisphere?
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
That's not a bad thought but another issue is that I just don't have the natural conditions to grow tulips at the height of summer. I would need to provide supplemental cooling for that to work and that would just be a bit of working against mother nature (versus right now I can grow in the winter without any supplemental heating) :)
@jesspribby2113
@jesspribby2113 7 месяцев назад
I grew Sea Holly from seed for the first time this year. I did not pinch them and I did get one big stalk that was about 18-20 inches tall. A few of my plants did produce a smaller side shoot that was about 12-16 inches tall. I did find the the one big main stalk was a bit too big and bulky for market bouquets. I’m hoping to get more stems per plant next year.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 6 месяцев назад
Oh yes!! This is exactly the advice I had gotten so thank you for validating. I'm wondering if year two will produce more and longer side shoots. We shall see!
@carolynsmith8998
@carolynsmith8998 7 месяцев назад
What yarrow variety did you grow? It’s beautiful! I tried Colorado mix and it was very blah colors, so trying sumner berries next year.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Yes! Summer berries. I loved it!! So many great colors - from pastel to sorbet!
@katebarrett1924
@katebarrett1924 7 месяцев назад
@@bareflowerfarm I've heard summer berries does well the first year - growing it like an annual. I kept several of mine to see how they do next year - hopefully year 2 will be just as good. Have you heard the annual things as well?
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Hmm I havent! I know a few people who perennialized summer berries with success. We shall see 🤞🏼
@sallyazzato3481
@sallyazzato3481 7 месяцев назад
What spacing would you recommend for yarrow?
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
This is actually a tough one. I spaced them too close (6 inches) but loved that they grew quickly and covered the dirt to prevent weeds. Typically they say 12-18 inches. I would probably space closer to 12. In my situation, I will likely divide in the spring of next year since mine are so crowded. But it goes to show you, even crowding them worked!
@dzdffxddvbaiden225
@dzdffxddvbaiden225 7 месяцев назад
I’ve never pinched sea Holly and honestly never even heard to. And with their growth habit pinched doesn’t make sense. Also, I know you had thrips but I’ve heard from so many growers including myself, in the mid-Atlantic, snaps were just all wrong this year. I’ve always gotten a fall flush and didn’t and didn’t have thrips, well lots anyway. So I’m looking at a lot of crops as a wash this year and not using this years lessons as a hard rule to learn from.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Ohh! This is great to know on both fronts. To your point, after I pinched the sea holly and saw the growth habit I was a bit like hmmmm. Regarding snaps, multiple growers at my co-op had great success in the spring but funnily, nobody sold fall flushes. I'll have to go back and ask if it's bc they were ripped out or whether a fall flush failed!
@kaitlinjohnson2915
@kaitlinjohnson2915 7 месяцев назад
If you plan on growing field tulips again (can’t remember if you said in the video), Pepperharrow had a video on harvesting and I guess what they do is just cover them with a foot or so of wood chips and they are really easy to pull up and clean. Haven’t tried this myself, so I can’t speak from experience, but if you can get an arborist to dump a bunch of chips for you, perhaps that would be a better alternative than digging a trench in clay? It sounds as though a better weed management strategy would really benefit you. I know it has its drawbacks, but I use landscape fabric with a lot of success. I only have to weed the holes, basically. Or maybe the Bio360 stuff? Of course that adds a cost that has to be factored in (I ultimately chose the landscape fabric because it can be reused for many years). I totally hear you on the sunk cost flowers. My snaps were a bit like that. I had a lovely first flush (some thrips, but few enough that I could dunk in soapy water and knock them off), but my issue was they bloomed too soon and all at once and I didn’t have a market lined up! Then I figured I would get more successions, and I did. But the second and third successions got munched by bud worms! I should have just pulled them in early summer and planted something else!
@Parmesito
@Parmesito 7 месяцев назад
Really makes me sad to see farms using so much plastic. Cardboard and woodchip will do the same job to suppress weeds but will improve your soil instead of leaving microplastics everywhere.
@kaitlinjohnson2915
@kaitlinjohnson2915 7 месяцев назад
@@Parmesito I did put a lot of thought into it and it was what I determined was the best for my situation. It’s pretty difficult to plant hundreds of tiny seedlings in cardboard, though. I do no till in my yard, but I was growing in a community garden plot, which tills every spring whether I like it or not and has tremendous weed pressure. I didn’t want to haul in masses of wood chips, knowing that the chips would get tilled in the next year and tie up nitrogen in the same plot that I hoped to use the next year. 😊
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Ohh thanks for the recommendation! I will check out the pepperharrow video. We have a ton of woodchips bc the arborists know that we will always accept them! Regarding weed management, you are absolutely right. I had NO weed management strategy this year because in year 1, I didn't need one. Looking back, my biggest mistake was not tilling in all of the roots of the aggressive grass that I have growing on my property. We removed the first 2-2.5 inches but that obviously wasn't enough bc they regenerated over the year and came back strong in year 2. I do employ landscape fabric in my landscaping bc we have very aggressive mugwort that the cardboard isn't able to smother out but I am very hesitant to use it in my growing space. We grow vegetables there and I have seen the landscape fabric degrade. Additionally, I don't have the research to back this, but from what I've read, it seems to smother soil life (then again, so does cardboard!) Next year, I'm planning on dumping alot of wood chips in the walk ways and growing in raised beds. The raised beds have been "mechanically tilled" since i dumped food waste in there, topped with a layer of cardboard, and then about 6 inches of new compost/top soil mixed. I'm hoping that will at least keep the aggressive grass weeds at bay. We shall see!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
I hear you on this. Everyone's objectives are different though. I do follow the cardboard and woodchip method. It's not perfect (and obviously led to aggressive weeds in my case), but one that I think I can improve my putting alot more woodchip on. My layers were definitely too short and now with a tractor, I can accomplish a taller layer more easily!
@kaitlinjohnson2915
@kaitlinjohnson2915 7 месяцев назад
@@bareflowerfarm Yes, deep wood chips have done wonders for my soil in my yard. I don’t do cardboard-deep enough chips and it isn’t needed for me when I’m smothering grass, but I don’t really have aggressive perennial weeds in my yard. My other plot is a whole other story. There’s thistle and mint and a huge bank of annual weed seeds in the soil that get churned up every spring when they insist on tilling the whole thing. 😩
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk 5 месяцев назад
How many seeds and bulbs did you purchase and plant? Also, how do you formulate a cost per stem when selling to florists? Space is not an issue, but i want to start out realistically and not become overwhelmed.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 5 месяцев назад
In 2023, I had overwintered the majority of my crop in fall of 2022 and only planted lilies and dahlias. Your question is a good one, but challenging to answer. I would encourage you to think about the following: 1) How many flowers do you expect you'll need? This will be dependent on your sales outlets. For example, will you be signing up for a farmer's market? Roadside stand? Partnering with a business? 2) What is your growing experience? What months are you looking to achieve blooms? When it comes to selling to florists, looking at regional wholesalers who florists buy from is a good start. Because I sell at a cooperative, I can see how stems are listed by other growers and now I feel comfortable enough to price nearly any stem/flower based on experience. For #1/2, i recommend this video that discusses my thought process for planning that I wish i thought about in year 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-34pgdE5UuTY.htmlsi=3kIeexlJ7d6sbWMi
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 5 месяцев назад
I also forgot to mention that @jordonsflowerfarm and I will be conducting on live on "a deep dive to selling to florists" this sunday at 10am est. There will be a recording after but you can ask questions during the live! ru-vid.com38pQyv7XImk?si=gHUPWwX1L7N1w2kF
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk 5 месяцев назад
@bareflowerfarm thank you so very much! I intend to watch more of your videos, too! I do have two florists lined up to sell to. I have no idea how to price each stem though- hence the learning I must do. Farmers markets are an option. Two are open within a twenty minute drive. I was also contemplating having a section of my garden for picking your own flowers. I am not sure how well it would work in this area - we are rural, however.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 5 месяцев назад
@@ProudCanadian-vv6bk That's so exciting! Are you by chance in year 1? If you are, I would encourage you to pick at most 2 sales outlets. The farmers market and the 2 florists are a very good start. The farmer's market is a very low entry point- there is alot less stress because you get to bring whatever you have available and you're not committing to a number of stems or certain varieties/colors. You will find that if these florists are asking to order certain varieties, there is a level of stress projecting out if you'll have certain blooms at a certain time. Your goal especially if you want to sell to florists consistently is to get a hang for growing and understanding how to predict when things will bloom (this will all vary based on time of year with day length, temp). Regarding the "picking your own flowers"- although you said that space is not a concern, people typically find that regardless of how much space they have, it is feast or famine. I would pass on this until a subsequent year because it is unlikely to draw in significantly sales (or learnings for you) and distract you from more worthy sales outlets. Hope this helps!
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk 5 месяцев назад
@@bareflowerfarm Your help is greatly appreciated. It's kind of nerve wracking. Your videos have helped me narrow down some plants and helped with succession growing ideas. And more! Thank-you for taking the time to respond to me personally.
@sislertx
@sislertx 7 месяцев назад
I grew some dahlias..only.got three that made it thru the heat we have..took a lot of effort...wasted space to my limited space.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Based on this, I would try to presprout them and get them a bit more robust before putting them in the ground :)
@Fabdanc
@Fabdanc 7 месяцев назад
You've sold me on the yarrow... But the yarrow isn't sold on me 😂 I'll figure it out.
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Haha, i got a chuckle out of this one!
@jordonsflowerfarm
@jordonsflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Most profitable for our farm was cosmos!
@bareflowerfarm
@bareflowerfarm 7 месяцев назад
Yes yes! Thanks to you, I'm growing cosmos next year for wholesale!
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