Most Overrated Options on Boats and Pontoons (Do You Agree?)

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@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon Год назад

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@MeanJoeNSGA1 2 года назад

My late father in-law always said the more things that are electric, etc is just more things to go wrong.

@wynandlouw1021 Год назад

We use our table a lot on our pontoon. We spend whole days out on the lake or lagoons, and we use it for picnic lunches. Much easier and cleaner to pack the lunch out for everyone to come grab. Its also an easy place to put the tackle boxes on when we fish.

@khatlest11 Год назад

A lot of good points in this video, BUT it all depends on how and where you use your boat. For me and my family, we use our pop up changing room with porta-potti all the time on our Premier pontoon boat. We're out on the water for hours a long ways away from our cabin, and it's nice to be able to relieve yourself without getting wet or change out of a swimsuit if the weather gets cold or if we go to a restaurant. Also, the bar is super nice for storing beverages instead of tripping over a cooler and for setting out drinks and snacks.

@melrose9252 2 года назад

Great video and great advice. I will agree on the table. Our Sun Tracker came with one and we have never used it after 6 years. We do use the dressing curtain and the girls use the “bucket.” You have to store the curtain with care. We opted for the gas grill and like the table it has never been used. I may re-gift it for Christmas. Some factory boat covers are a rip off. Our Sun Tracker cover began to pop snaps the first time we use it. The factory replaced it but after a time it did the same.

@reelinrichie 2 года назад

Thank you Matt for all the great information makes sense! I am in the market for my first boat, Your videos are a great help….

@DrEd-th2lu Год назад

On a lake we never used the head. Now in Florida going out for long days the head is used all the time in my 24’ and 34’. Could not live without it. We use our table all the time. I have a hydraulic electric hatch and would NEVER want to lift a hatch again…. I am a 34 year active boater though.

@paulkersey2179 9 дней назад

Grill is a must have, and if I had a good size pontoon, that bar would be pretty cool (on a calm lake)

@timothyschertz2050 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for all the great videos! We use our table 50% of the time so it is useful to us. The head is used for storage. Our boat is very short to have a head with door (22.5 ft.). Large stereos, excessive lighting, and over use of “motor/computer controlled systems all drive me crazy. Just like cars/trucks, these systems are expensive and proved to fail.

@MrWmeyer 2 года назад

Ice makers unless you are an off shore fisherman or charter boat.

@gordonroberts50 2 года назад

Just started watching your videos. You confirmed my thing for not going with most of the options you mentioned. I do think a head is useful. My old boat had a manual manual hatch lift; new boat on order comes with an auto lift which I am looking forward to.

@gordonroberts50 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon A Formula. Wanted one for years.

@jeffjustice4690 2 года назад

Good video, lots of stuff said that I had not thought of

@cgirl111 2 года назад

A grill is almost a must for sandbar saturday. I've also used it to make just caught mahi on toast sandwiches offshore in calm conditions but you don't need a dealer installed option. If you have a rod holder you can get a grill for a tenth of the price the dealer option costs.

@robertr2953 2 года назад

Our table stays in place at the back of our pontoon at all times and is constantly used. Love the table! Also, we didn't want the changing room but (long story) we ended up with one for free. My daughter uses it almost every time we go on the boat, my wife has used it many times and even I have squeezed in there. They like to come to the boat in regular clothes and change into their bathing suits and then out of their wet bathing suits to head home.

@jedlikestrains7599 Год назад

Have a head on my regal 2700, and I love it, it’s clean, it doesn’t take up Space and it’s quite helpful.

@bapakbob3897 2 года назад

Thank you! A fantastic reality check.

@miketoigo7712 Год назад

great vid. had a few wanting the electric bimini and told them not a fan of them. Something to fail, same with LED lights. Once again good vid.

@deepsea5107 2 года назад

Children are an important option. They are the source of future boaters (and great designated "drivers" LOL. The blue LED captain's console lights are cool at the boat show but bad for your night vision. They should be red. The changing room with a porta potti can be pretty handy at times, especially if you are on the water all day and not on your "home lake". We love our Magma Monterey infrared grille. We use it a lot! ICECO 12 Volt portable fridge is much better than a cooler.

@dwayneroberts6616 11 месяцев назад

We have a 19' CC and we bought a portable toilet and we are getting the pop up tent for it. We want to be able to fish and on some days chill out on the lake. We got a T Top and will be getting the shade extensions and a couple deck chairs for lounging. I have to find a cushion for the bow. We have a place for a small table so we do plan on getting one so we have a spot to eat when we decide it's a leisure day. If we decide to do serious fishing or shrimping ect we just leave it all at home and go out.

@megastick9324 Год назад

We use a little Weber Q gas grill, easy to stow or take off, when we plan a cook out we take it, otherwise it stays home.

@heidbumbee1689 2 года назад

Great video. The best comment was "what I can't afford is junk". That is so true in boating. If your boat is big enough to take a thing and you have the money to float that thing then who is to say it isn't essential. It doesn't matter how big your boat is or how well it is kitted out a bigger better one is going to moor up alongside. The only counter that I have to this is to build my own boat. The level of smugness in using your own self built boat is off the scale. You can park up beside anything and ask "how long did it take you to build yours"? My boat may only be 17 feet long which is shorter than the width of your boat and I'm not sure why I added the helipad..... it makes my boat top heavy, and I don't have a helicopter.

@rykehuss3435 5 месяцев назад

Bigger is definitely not always better in boats. Great for crossing oceans, bad for island hopping and finding berths

@KevinS3928 16 дней назад

I've had several different types and sizes of boats, all with pros and cons, now I'm building my dream boat only the stuff I like on it. Well, the stuff both I and the Coasties like that is.😊

@chiphill4856 2 года назад

Avoid blue colored interior led lights. Blue makes it much harder to see and drive at night. Red is eye-friendly and doesn't ruin night vision.

@chiphill4856 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon I guess blue is like the party color.

@martinschulz9381 2 года назад

Right on, some good advice. I always at least listen to what sales people have to say, or the advice they offer. They are not always greedy crooks (like the stereotype). Many have seen the many mistakes and pitfalls, and legitimately want you to be happy with your purchase. If I don't like the sales person, I don't deal with them.

@richmac918 Год назад

All good points but in the end it all depends on how you use your boat. My first boat was a cuddy with a head. Got used once and after that I made anyone that wanted to use it clean it. Never got used again and just took up valuable space. For me and the way we boat now (typically 4 to 8 hours on a lake) all of the things you mentioned are not only a waste of money but worse, take up space. I know a lot of people will feel differently but of the four boats I've owned, I only used my bimini top twice and the one I have now is sitting in my attic and it better shape than anything on the boat since it's brand new

@rykehuss3435 5 месяцев назад

The flybridge grill has to be the most overrated option. Maybe its nice if youre chartering/paying a crew of a 90 foot yacht and got your private chef and waiter but if youre owner-operating, its just wasted space. You'll use it once, and never again. You have to get the ingredients up there, plates, glasses, etc. And back down. And then the cleaning. Like many others on this list, its one of those features thats used to sell the boat on the showroom floor

@n-da-bunka2650 Год назад

Good points! We had a head on our 1997 Formula. We liked it and used it but I grew up on 36ft cruisers on lake Michigan which were critical and got used to the pump station so on a cruiser or Formula where you can use a pump system, they work great. On a Pontoon or Tritoon... NOPE! No way!

@badognobisc 2 года назад

Bar, hand sink, head,electric bimini, lol lighted cup holders......Add underwater and extra LED lighting! Something the captain and crew won't enjoy and illegal during navigation in my state. Changing room is a plus when we are 30 miles out on the Ozarks and no bathrooms available in November, when the marinas are shut down. She is in charge of the porta-potty dump out.

@bapakbob3897 Год назад

As your experience is from the other side of the curtain, eg, the boat dealer back office, this discussion would be enhanced if you can share with the boat buyer (but nevertheless looking at their future sell day); what value do the options below add/detract to the trade-in value a dealer gives a seller, and to saleability of the boat to a prospective future boat buyer if the seller tries to sell it himself: 1. Head Compartment 1a. Portapotty vs pump out 2. Wake Tower vs Bimini 3. 19-21 ft vs 23ft or longer length 4. snap in floor coverings vs bare sole 5. Windlass on a lake 6. Chlorox bottle-white hull vs colored sides 5. I/O motor vs Outboard Thanks for any insight you can share

@johnsimms818 2 года назад

No stereos or lights other than running lights.if you have to use a light use a red one it doesn't ruin your nite vision as much.

@mustangracer5124 3 месяца назад

I've used the table on my pontoon 100% of the time.. The 'snack ladies' fill it up or I eat my meals on it... The electric top is a bit silly.. UNLESS.. you need to lower it quickly.. in the desert areas a 40+ mph. wind can come up in 30 seconds and it's good to have control of the boat while dropping the top down.

@PhilD22 2 года назад

Disagree on 2 things. I have a porta potty on my pontoon and it’s awesome. You don’t always want to get in the water (especially at night or early/late in the season when the water in cold). Secondly electric bimini. Lets face it, people are lazy. I used my electric bimini more in 6 months than I did the manual in the 10 years prior.

@paulkersey2179 2 года назад

Thanks, good video.

@dwayneroberts6616 11 месяцев назад

I was thinking about getting Sea Decking for my boat does that stuff wash down easily or can it just be removed? I would be fishing and hopefully catching fish😂 I like a washable deck. I also want to be able to chill out on some days with the wife.

@Sabrinagunter 2 месяца назад

I disagree on the electric bikini top. Especially when you have to single handedly put it up or down each time you trailer it or put it on a lift. We’ve only had one electric bikini actuator go out on Barletta in 5 years. That’s impressive for the amount of boats we’ve sold. Makes things so much easier.

@mikemeyerphotopro 7 месяцев назад

The thing about the loud speakers is that on't the person behind the boat and the rest of the lake can hear it. That's why the driver cranks it up. And why is Rap the preferred music :O ugghhh!!! I sure hope the wake and surf craze dies down as well. As a lake front owner, those boats are destroying the shoreline and sometimes push waves up and through the dock :O Love your content!!!

@mustangracer5124 3 месяца назад

Where I live, I think they have 'loudest boat' competition in the cruising channel.. you expect it, but it sounds like the old stereo shop of the 70s where 6 different systems are playing.

@mikemeyerphotopro 3 месяца назад

We have a once a year race boat gathering on Lake Anna. It's loud when I'm inside my house. Lot's of jet boats with big block wide open headers. It's cool for one day :) @@mustangracer5124

@mikemeyerphotopro 3 месяца назад

Oh and yes I remember those old stereo shops :)@@mustangracer5124

@FamilymarineboatsMN 2 года назад

Matt. Most often I agree with what you say in your video, HOWEVER, there is one topic you mentioned in this video I disagree with. ELECTRIC POWER BIMIN'S - These electric bimini's have been on the market for nearly 15 years. We've sold hundreds of them and I rarely have issues. They are VERY dependable (Not Perfect, but who is?) In Minnesota, most pontoons are kept on a boat lift with a canopy. To have the ability to raise and lower the bimini with a touch of a button as your going in or out of the boat lift is AWESOME. In addition, some of these 10 ft or 12 ft bimini's are big and heavy and difficult to open/close or lower manually. Especially when you're getting to my age. LOL We have had nothing but positive comments from our customers regarding Electric Power Bimini's. They love how easy it is to raise and lower it.

@saltysteel3996 2 года назад

Love our power bimini on our 2022 Sun Tracker Fishing Barge 22 DLX. My favorite part is it only has 2 bars, no extra bars coming down in the front or back, so I can drive the boat while trolling and hold my rod out to the side without being constrained or trapped by the frame of the bimini top.

@daboxer181 4 месяца назад

I'd use the bathroom all the time. I piss like crazy lol.

@deplorablechump8758 2 года назад

Agreed, except windshield wiper. It’s a must for me.

@deplorablechump8758 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon 16’ Hewescraft Sportman. Great little boat.

@c.j.clifford5899 23 дня назад

Agree with all but the table. With two young kids we use it all the time for lunch on the pontoon. We stow and go after meals but it keeps stuff off the seats at meal time.

@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon 23 дня назад

Thanks for sharing your experience

@michiganengineer8621 2 года назад

I know you focus primarily on smaller boats and 'toons but I'm surprised a FLIR camera system wasn't on the list.

@colinwhitby8219 2 месяца назад

The electrical stuff is the 1st things that go and CONTINUE to go on boats! The less the better.....Unless it if for what you NEED.

@andreaswiesendanger Год назад

Table & Head are important to our family. Head not used often but at least 1 per cruise. Table used every time... ...without table would be a nightmare

@bigguydiy2184 2 года назад

What makes me chuckle is manufactures who put a windshield wipers on a windows that are not tempered glass. Wiper on anything else but glass will scratch.

@dirkmcghee1604 23 дня назад

I sure did like the video and I gave it a thumbs up!!!

@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon 23 дня назад

Thanks

@1951RKP 5 месяцев назад

Docking lights on the open water is against the law where I’m at. They reflect off the water and make it hard for others to see.

@TairnKA 2 года назад

I was looking at buying a new SeaCabin Houseboat, but didn't. After watching this, it confirms my smart decision. ;-)

@tim4269 7 месяцев назад

WE used the table on our pontoon all the time.

@andrewscrutton 2 года назад

Im very much a stereo guy when it comes to my truck but the boat I have on order I wasn't to worried. I may upgrade the system in it over time but it'll be more toward sound quality than volume. Sound really travels on a lake (Im a fresh water guy). That said, anyone who doesn't want to listen to the Jimmy Buffett Im playing is wrong and needs to change their taste in music lol. If I was buying a boat for off shore (or sandbar) or even Great Lakes usage, I'd likely have a different take on that. I'm in Alberta Canada but Ontario is where I'll be doing most of my boating/fishing. I could see the BBQ having its time and place but for shore lunches I'm more than happy to just find an island and go on shore. Canadian Shield lakes are some of the most beautiful you'll ever find!

@andrewscrutton 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon Ive got a Princecraft Ventura 194 ordered. I love the deck boat style. We used to have a 08 Ventura 190 so I know the boats pretty well. I was kinda thinking Id go with a pontoon but decided that since I was gonna be trailering to most of my destinations (almost 1000miles to Lake of the Woods for me) the deck boat would be better for that in addition to better fuel econ and performance (without a huge engine) covering significant distances on the water.

@andrewscrutton 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon when I get it ill have to send you a pic on twitter of its maiden voyage :)

@birdwatchohiolive 10 месяцев назад

I’m surprised by how many comments support the electric Bimini. The Bimini takes 5 seconds to set up. Is it really worth the money to save 4 seconds? 😂

@shawngoodell772 Год назад

I'm definitely in agreement with the led and extra lighting. Its great when you're docked or anchored but is the bain of any operator while underway. Turn all that shit off so I can see!

@allannichols9315 Год назад

I didn't see the 'no clothing' option on any of my price lists? I want it!

@abrad3061 9 месяцев назад

Is there a pontoon boat with like an rv box on it where we can use it as a cabin on the water. That we can pull behind the truck?

@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon 9 месяцев назад

Some of the older SunTracker pontoons had an enclosure like that but the other option is to do a camper canvas

@sabrinasellsboats8271 Год назад

In 5 years we’ve only had to replace 1 Bimini motor actuator on ALL the Barlettas we’ve sold. Barletta covers their electric biminis for 10 years. I love the electric biminis. I used to sell cheaper brand pontoons and the hardware rusts and becomes oxidized and is not as easy after a couple of years unless it’s kept in the garage and out of the weather.Everything else is on point, overrated!

@britishsouth 2 года назад

We happened to have the transom mounted stereo control on our used Chaparral. I never used it on the water.. and can't hear the stereo more than 10 feet away from the boat anyway. Don't think I'd spring for one on a new boat.

@randyosborn284 2 года назад

Cant hear your stereo more than 10' away from the boat? That's the first thing I would correct... Then you will enjoy that stern control.

@werberderber6209 2 года назад

I have a 2010 chaparral 226 SSI, I have owned it for about 18 months, it has the transom controls, the only time I use it is when we are on the lake, we do a lot of boating on the Missouri river so most of the time it is useless.

@sunsetatshabooms4558 2 года назад

a Hot Logic is a MUST for food on a boat!

@BoycottChinaa 4 месяца назад

Is the volvo IPS new system the reason Orcas have turned on the boating community?

@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon 4 месяца назад

Didn’t know they were related

@JoshSees 2 года назад

Worst option is a jetski 😆

@andrewscrutton 2 года назад

Lake Lice as my cousin calls them lol

@randyosborn284 2 года назад

I was explaining the water "right of ways" to my daughter. Boat on right, boat at anchor, sail boats, etc... She ask about that jetski coming at us? I said " they have no right of way. They just need to get the F out of the way"...

@heidbumbee1689 2 года назад

I can never understand why jetskis don't have ashtrays fitted. No. Wait. I can ever understand jetskis.

@cheapme1850 4 месяца назад

It seems the focus of this video is on bow riders and pontoons, which makes the case that for most folks, neither is the best overall choice, especially compared to even a small cruiser or even a cuddy. A head will definitely extend your day on the water and even is useful sitting in the marina which may have a nasty restroom, far from the boat. I never used my sink until the past year because it was broken, now I regret not having it fixed years ago because use it’s useful, especially if you’re doing any grilling and a bar is almost essential for a fun day. A small flat screen TV also is good for lengthening the day because instead of having to leave the marina to go watch a game and cutting your day in half, you watch it and when it’s over, go back to enjoying the water. Finally the political flags are great because it identifies people I may want to stay away from, same for the phallic speaker boaters!

@Fljeff7 Год назад

This is the list of stuff guaranteed to mess up your day. Simple is better on the water. Drive by wire systems make me nervous. It's interesting how people use dock lights as head lights on the water, they make it obvious they are rookies. If you can't understand how to navigate in the dark you should return to port at sunset. Been boating for most of my life. I always want that bigger nicer boat then logic and reasoning kicks in and I seem to have a trailer boat. EFI is one of the best modern engine features. In my opinion if you are not mechanical inclined type of person boating may not be for you. There are owners guides that should be read cover to cover. It's obvious many people don't even open them

@Faithfulhorse Год назад

OMGOSH! SPOT ON EVERY ITEM!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@chrishackett554 2 года назад

Excellent subject and fact based content but IMO I’d modify your top overrated option based on my experience. Having a holding tank with pump out on any boat other than large cruisers is absolutely ridiculous however, having a simple closed system, removable porta pot in a small comfortable compartment like those in front of the passenger of most medium sized deck boats and bow riders is the way to go. Easy cleanup and never a stinkin holding tank. We use our porta pot often and it’s been worth having the head compartment on our 26 bowrider. The head compartment sink is definitely a total waste. If I could have ordered our boat without it and the manufacturer use the space for storage much better. I would have placed the cockpit wet bar as the dumbest most waste of an option for this list.

@milkshakemuncher 2 года назад

Hello, thank you for your advice! May I ask if you've taken your boat into the ocean for fishing purpose and if it handled open seas very well? I know most bow riders are more for towing tubes and ski's, lazing around for a calm day on the lake with family, but if one was prepared to use it for fishing as well and risk getting the leather or vinyl trim dirtied, I'm just curious to know if it can do it.

@chrishackett554 2 года назад

@@milkshakemuncher Hello. We just sold a 31 Renegade with twins that is made in Miami for rough water. It had a pump out head with holding tank. I disconnected all the plumbing and switched out the porcelain head to a porta pot. We have downsized to a Monterey M65 which has a 20 degree dead rise so not a true deep vee but close. It’s a heavy boat and handles normal wake traffic and light wave action very well. Would I take it through Haulover Inlet while the tide is flowing, hell no. Even though I’m a recreational fisherman I won’t fish off my boat. I dont want fish slime and blood over premium vinyl plus don’t want an errant cast ruining a seat with a stuck hook. I’ve heard dealers refer to bowriders in the 24-26 range as bay boats that are better operated in sheltered waters. We run on the St Lawrence River which can get really snotty. The boat can handle it but not the most comfortable for some passengers when 2’ plus waveaction. On a calm day and depending on wave frequency smaller boats can operate on the open ocean but it’s all a matter of being mindful of the weather conditions.

@thomasfrederick71 Месяц назад

But ours goes to 11

@randyosborn284 2 года назад

ugh, you know lights (light bars, anchor lights, leds, etc..) can be turned off when underway? Right? But you have an extremely visible boat when they are on at night anchor. So, I disagree with that one...

@mikemurel1917 Год назад

Every boat for sale. "New stereo"

@Dailyfiver Год назад

Children 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that has me laughing

@dreed7312 Год назад

Some tables seem like an afterthought, and probably get in the way. But, I have to have a flat surface to make lunch or tackle. Most overrated is the stereo. Why would you want music on your boat? Don't you have a phone and ear buds? How do you hear the motor, the wind, other boaters, your wife and kids, someone going overboard? Do you not realize how much your stereo upsets other people, animals, fish, birds? FO with that noise lol. To the people who think stabilizers are only for people who "can't take it" -- most of your offshore experience has been in your head. No not that one, the one on your shoulders. Anyone who tells me they don't get seasick is really telling me they haven't spent much time offshore. If you are a freshwater lake boaters then yeah, you shouldn't need one.

@NipItInTheBud100 2 года назад

100% agree with light bars, stereos, children and political flags being overrated! I dont need to know a person's politics while out trying to have a good time and all it does is create tension while everyone is out trying to have a good time!! People underestimate how far sound travels when they have that loud music playing and it only ruins the boating experience for everyone else!

@sicilianr1 9 месяцев назад

Because political flags are an option when buying a new boat 🤦🏻‍♂️

@jurisavtschenko 2 года назад

Sink, grill and a table kinda makes a package. I think I'm in the 10% who rather take a dump in a head than in the water. :D

@jurisavtschenko 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon yeah I think it's a little bit different here. Boating at lake Saimaa, Finland, it's more rural and harbors/public toilets can be a travel.

@h.l.3628 2 года назад

Windshield wipers are a must. When you get some salt water on the windshield when you are doing 30 knots and above it's absolute crucial to wipe this off at once.

@jeffredman6653 2 года назад

My wife wants a small head for changing and our toddler. Her point, we have worked hard to potty train, and does not want to have it undone.

@corrional 2 года назад

Night lights on a BOAT!!!!! Totally agree, I hate them

@limoranch Год назад

We just poop in the water or in a cooler

@hoover798 Год назад

9k gotta see at night

@benzo430 2 года назад

a wife !

@benzo430 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon then you got a good one. Enjoy!

@cheftomsd 2 месяца назад

If you have the bladder of a 70 year old you need a head.

@GiantsNinerFan56 2 года назад

Where did my comments go?

@GiantsNinerFan56 2 года назад

@@BoatBuyersSecretWeapon It's me. Sometimes I'm watching a few at a time and lose track. I'm old....lol

@alanploetz7100 2 года назад

It took me a second to stop & readjust my thought process to the types of boats you were talking about. I might debate the table as one of the early comments did, where a permanent table on a toon large enough to have multiple seating areas makes sense. The rest on day cruise type boats can easily be addressed by going ashore and lighted cup holders just don't need to be addressed at all. If you have a boat that can go offshore 4-plus hours, a head becomes more of an issue, but in the boats you are describing, they're are usually claustrophobic...and smelly.

@ladas1106 Год назад

Disagree with you opinion on Trump flags. First off, the subject of this video is "Most Overrated Options." Hanging a Trump flag is not a boat "option" like installing a Bimini top or underwater lights. It's a personal statement. Most Trump supporters feel that we do not have a voice in anything anymore these days. Hanging a Trump flag is one of the last remaining areas where we have any voice in. By saying that boats should remove their Trump flags and stay a-political, you are essentially making a political statement. You obviously have a lot of experience with boating and the mechanical aspects of boating. May I suggest you stick to those areas rather than opine on what others do with their personal boat decoration. It's really not your place or your waterway to comment on.