Hi Giles! I've Been in the Blue Ridge Mountains, where internet is just a rumor. Back home for a day now, so just watched this and your "Flying Is Freedom" episode. My era was Vietnam. I had friends that came back in body, not in mind and others that came back disabled. While the disabled had resources, at that time, the stressed had very little. Really good to see programs trying to help those that lost themselves in service to their country! Good job!
Hi Zach, welcome back to Internet for a bit. Yes, it is good that it is more understood now and their stories were so interesting and humbling at the same time.
You seem to be thoroughly enjoying this flight. Nice wing ! Like the flight characteristics. Marveling at retractable gear. Never seen that on a trike. Thanks for taking us up !
Hi Allan, it was hard to hide my joy. The Adam is not the first to have retracts, if you Google the Flylight Dragonfly, it had even electricly operated ones that went inside a fibreglass fuselage.
Good vid Giles. From your excitement in the seat, certainly sounds like an upgrade is in the works. And I think you have enough experience on your other setup to be able to legitimately provide a comparison. And yes - thx to Nathan for providing to you, to show to us. Cheers
@@GolfFoxtrot22 - Marvelous video - truly looks fun! How would you compare this experience to paramotoring? Which is better? It almost looks like you were doing some kind of hybrid of paramotoring and ultralight flying.
Thanks for sharing the video! Great review, I'm a paraglider and paramotor pilot (and PPL). This little package (with huge bang of fun) really moves my curiosity as my next flying toy! My problem is there is no hangliding school where I'm from (Costa Rica), but seriously considering bringing one down here. Big fan of the Vittorazi Moster 185...
I'm ex PPL as well, I've never had so much fun. Are there any microlight schools, I've been advised that would be a better route as flying a flexwing (delta trike, depending on what they are called), is very different to a hang glider, especially in the landing part.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thanks for your words! How difficult is the transition from a fixed wing aircraft and/or a paramotor to the ADAM type wing? In Costa Rica there are Ultra Light schools but nothing that deals with this type of wing (hangliding type).
@@ThePablofer not deliberately trying to plug my content but I made a video series ( excuse the nervous me) called paramotor to Peabee which might help. ru-vid.com/group/PLylmYIm2niE5ICCKfLq3AQV2vffGZjZ34
@@ThePablofer I was learning on the bigger machines. I hope they help. it was a couple of years ago but they should give a flavor. I've never flown a control bar before, these flights were my first exposer.
Excellent! The weather here in the U.S. has gotten too nasty for me to solo mine yet. I've been taking lessons in a big old Northwing. I should be about ready to solo my Adam after a few more sessions but it may have to wait until spring.
Hi Ed, wow more Adam's over in the States. Having only flown in the UK and some European locations, I always had the impression that you could fly all year round over there. Its getting windy here now so we kind of have to pick the days.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Yes! You Mark and Ben. I might be able to continue my training in March. Then I'll finally be able to fly my Adam. My instructor test flew it and it was glorious. He did tight circles over the runway and zoomed up to altitude. Definitely going to be more fun than the old heavy trainer.
Ironically I sold my motorbike to buy my Peabee a few years ago. Similarly to yourself, I've flown paramotors and paragliders for a long time, this has transformed my flying enjoyment, it's not better just different. The grins are just a big though.
I’m glad I stumbled on this video, I was watching paramotor videos as of late and was wondering. What if you put a mower 185 on a glider? Someone has to have done this, and this video popped up on my feed a few hours after, crazy.
@@dessystewart5626 I was lucky to have Nathan let me fly his really. To maiden someone else aircraft is quite a special moment. ( And I didn't break anything)
Hi Hollady Drones, all the kit I use is in the description, but those fingerless mittens are made by Sealskinz. I hope that helps. I only use mine in the summer months as I have really cold hands. But I do like the fact that the give you fingers and warmth at the same time. Was there a second question?
Thanks Giles! Second question what do you use for gloves in the winter? This is my 1st winter after getting into PPG and cold fingers seem to be the biggest challenge of winter flying. 3rd question, what are the prices to get into this rig with moster power? How big of a field does it require? I fly a ppg trike and love it but this may be my next fly toy. It looks like an amazing flying machine! How fast is it compared to a ppg? I couldn't believe it has retractable LG! So cool! Thanks for posting these videos! You're Universal 1.1 review made it top on my list! And the micro avionics seem to be far superior to the options on the market... Thanks for teaching us newbies!
Hi Giles, great vid as always! Can you tell me where to get the gopro mount for the control frame. This bar looks oval not circular in cross section and the standard bar mounts you can get may not fit properly? Do you let the GP record for the whole flight or do you have a remote to switch it on or off? Apologies if you have covered this already on another vid.
HI Rob, the links to the mounts are in the description and yes I let the GPs run for the flight, well the wing tip one as I don't have a working remote. I have a long USB lead and run a battery backer for the tip cam. The hardest part is sound syncing all the cameras for editing. If you need any more details just reply back here. I hope that helps.
Gosh you should get a commission! I want one and haven't even taken delivery of my paid for sub 70. Told a friend and he has switched to this as his first choice. Just wondering, my Airborne V-lite can be flown as a powered trike or as a conventional hang-glider, can the Pea-bee and this be hang-gliders too?
Hi Blue, a few people have said that but Ben is a good friend and I just enjoy sharing my passion for flying. It was as much an honour to be asked to fly it. The Adam and PeaBee's can be free flown as they need the wheels to get airborne. They can be free flown once they are in the air which is actually on my list of things to try.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 This is an Airborne promotional video (advert) showing powered and un-powered (no trike base just hang strap and harness) flight on the same day. In reality I think windy days for hang-gliding and calm for powered would be more likely. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cYgErt1r67M.html
Hey! Another great video, thx. I have the same helmet and visor as you do but haven't been able to find the neoprene neck cover setup as you have. Did you make it yourself? If not, please share where you got it from. Thx!
Thank you, the wind dam is from MicroAvionics, it is actually for this bigger helmet but I just bolted it to the bottom of my visor, its not a perfect fit but it works. I hope that helps.
Great video Giles. I am not sure how most pilots don't realize just how fun these soaring trikes are. Light bar pressure,wing trike looks awesome. As far as I'm concerned its one of the most safest ways to fly. Hey really nice landing seeing those mains touch first Q my soaring trike has larger tires , How did those tires feel in rough grass?
Hi there, it's just on another level and completely agree with your first statement. The wheels on this are the same as I have in mine, as long as the tyre pressures are not above 15psi, they are fine. I'd love to try this in the summer with a few thermals around.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 totally awesome. Ill bet it thermals pretty well. I don't know much about the moser engine. On my atf solairus wing i have a water cooled polini 250 es . Lots of power in the mountains but exspensive. Iam looking for a cheaper engine to put on my solairus trike with an aeros wing. I might suggest a 3 bladed prop when you get your Adam. Just soo much smoother and easier on the crank. Its a really good lookin soaring trike. I bet your gonna have a blast thermalling that. Hang gliding without the hassles
@Whispering eagle did you see the video I made on testing 2 and 3 blade propellers? I've gone back to 2 blades. Is till have both 3 blades but will only keep them as a spare.
The 3 blade was really noisy and did actually improve the cruise RPM (fuel burn), it was good in the climb but not by much. As you say, it was a little smoother but overall I didn't feel that that fact alone would outweigh the fuel consumption side of things. The video gives more detail and data.
Great video. I like the looks of the Adam wing. So it handles better than your Fox 13? I have the Fox 13 TL (the wing with the struts)...it flies nicely, maybe a little heavy in role,..the wing is fairly stiff, but I don't really have anything to compare it to. Unless you can try these wings out side-by-side there's not any way to tell one from the other...you pay your money and you take your chances. Years ago I had an Air Creations Fun14 single place and my Fox is lighter then that...I also has a Cosmos Samba with a Topless wing and VG. If you had the VG pulled in the wing was stiff, but with it let-out the wing handling was really light... my wing is heavier then the Cosmos with the VG out, about the same as the Topless with the VG pulled out...wing tight. Do you know what the max weight the Adam can carry? I've looked on both Flylight's and Aeros' web page and can't seem to find it. I know my Aeros ANT is heavier then your rig, but probably not that much. I'd be interested to see if this wing would fit my set-up. Thanks for an informative and honest assessment.
Hi Stone859, I think you are more experienced on vastly more wings than I have ever flown so can't comment. I've mentioned to Ben about your comment so hopefully he'll be able to give you more information.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thanks. It's hard to figure out how different wings fly. Kind of like trying to figure out what prop to use. You have to try them, not really anyway to do a "test drive".
One difference between the Adam and the videos of you flying your Pea Bee is the Adam has a couple of inches of clearance between the tip road and sail during flight, while your Pea Bee has very little clearance. Any time a tip rod touches the sail it'll impact roll rate and responsiveness, so it could be that the Pea Bee's handling is being compromised by how close the tip rod and sail are. It would be worth checking with Ben Ashman about this. If you could lower the tip rods on the Pea Bee just a couple of inches you could improve handling. I expect the margins for pitch stability on Pea Bee are high enough to handle this, again Ben is the one to check on this. If in doubt get the BPHA to stick the two gliders on the test rig , that would make a interesting video :-)
Hello Robert, I'd not really noticed that so I'll have a look next time. It could also be down to the way the bollowshift works and the dual surface will have a different influence on the AoA of the downgoing wing. I'm still very new to all this hang glider voodoo😁.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Double surface gliders historically have tended to be stiffer than single surface gliders, so it's unusual for the single surface version to have less good roll handling. It could be the Pea Bee is set up with greater tension and has less washout than the Adam, so if the tip rods are set to a similar angle then the lower washout would give less room. However, they are different gliders so there is no reason to jump to the conclusion about tension/tip rod angles. This is something Ben could settle in a second.
It's how it came from the factory apart from a trim adjustment on the right wingtip. I really don't know much more than that. Ben would be better suited to answer., I'm happy to fly either, they make me smile.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 In general I would recommend folks just keep their gliders with stock tip rod and luff line heights - manufacturers will normally set them at that height to pass certification. However, if they are set to high they start engaging in normal flight and compromising performance and handling, and for your Pea Bee it looks this might be possibility, so worth double checking with Ben that things are set correctly. FYI, I used to work at Airwave gliders back in the 90's, helped on the design and stability side.
@@robertosfield I've not adjusted anything other than the tip adjustments for lateral trim which is in the manual and it seems to be the same with all the other Fox wings I've flown. I know they are all test flown before leaving AEROS. I can't comment any further.
Marvelous video - truly looks fun! How would you compare this experience to paramotoring? Which is better? It almost looks like you were doing some kind of hybrid of paramotoring and ultralight flying.
Spooky you say that, just over a year ago I made a video on this very subject, I did also made a follow up as to why I stopped flying my paramotor. One is not better than the other, just different.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 - a previous video of yours showed an updated PeaBee with larger tires, which I'd imagine could help in landing in less smooth terrain that might be encountered when camping. But larger tires can also cause more air resistance and reduce aerodynamics. The Adam seems to have a clever solution with its retractable wheels & fairings, which also look very fetching. To what extent could this idea be used to incorporate fatter tires for the bush?
@@manofsan The Adam can only use these smaller wheels to allow them to fair away. The UK Sub70 KG exemption is all about weight and the big tyres are really heavy and not ideal. If you wanted to bush fly, you could just stick the bigger wheels on a Peabee trike with an ADAM wing.
In the UK we have a licence exemption as long as the airframe with fuel weighs less than 70kgs, they are called Sub70, if its over 70kgs its a microlight. I hope that's helps and I have some links in the video descriptions.
I’ve wanted to get into flex wing flying for ages but can’t find anywhere near south west London to do it. Does anyone know of anywhere? Also, awesome video!!
Hey giles! Im thinking about ordering a similar helmet like yours with visor, do you ever get problem with it fogging up from breathing in it when its cold outside? Second, whats that black windshieldthing you have under it? Homemade?
Hi Rickard, I don't get any fogging but I have an anti fog coating which does help. Also I don't generally drop the visor until just before takeoff. The wind dam is from MicroAvionics, but ti's for their larger helmet so. It doesn't quite fit but works well.
Hi JT, I'm not sure if there is any drag coefficient data to say yes or no, but I noticed that with them away the climb was much better. With the legs outs the, fairings do create a certain amount of drag which you feel in the extra power needed for level flight. The Moster powered version, you don't really notice it as much. The daft thing is, unless you are outside of the pilots seat, you can't really see the full effect. It still looks really cool on a flyby though.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thanks for the quick reply. Are there any plans for an electric version by any chance? I know they have their limitations however, they have advantages too. Cheers.
@@mytubehkjt having spoken with Ben at Flylight, they would do a bespoke electric version but not as a commercial option, they are just not cost effective.
Hi Giles. Sorry to bother you - I'm still having problems with my Motomonitor unit which should give readings on RPM and engine temps. I can't see on your list here what you're using at the moment - could you let me know please? I'm also trying to find someone to service the engine (30 hours now!) but after weeks of trying I can't get any reply from Clive at Skybound. Do you have any alternative suggestions? Many thanks. John
Hi John, the engine service isn't that difficult, the new online manuals from Vittorazi are really good. I use the TRAILTECH TTO gauges which I have used for years. I'll add those details to my description, I genuinely hadn't thought to add them, so thank you for noticing.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thanks, Giles. The Vittorazi site doesn’t seem to be working today, but I’ll keep trying. I’ve found the Trailtech unit and will use that with the Runleader tacho that Ben recommends. Cheers. John
@@moose7472 I did try and make one this year but the audio failed. It was only a late day thermal flight with the engine on idle. I'd probably prefer to thermal the ADAM wing as it was hard to centre the Fox, but it has been a while since I did any thermalling in a paraglider or sailplane.
Hi Mitch, I get over 600 fpm. I tested the Raptor version with the factory R and averaged over 900 fpm. The Adam wing climbs really well with the as 185.
The Atom80 was about 80/100 meters but that was just wheels off, the climb rate was not much either. I was only at 300 feet by the end of Sywell Aerodromes runway. I hope that helps.
Complex aircraft, not really, have you seen the controls on a Doodlebug😁, that has retracts as well. The Dragonfly also has retracts. A complex aircraft must also have flaps and propeller to Engine management controls ( FADEC or DECU etc).
@@GolfFoxtrot22 - why not go with a more powerful engine then? Polini Thor 202 is only 7 lbs heavier, but it has 40% more hp and lower fuel consumption - why not go with that? Is it the wing that limits the airspeed to 90kph, or the engine that does?
It's the wing, I've been full bar in, and still climbing so had to back off the power. They have put a Rotax on the back of one of these (Google Foxtug), it was almost dangerously over powered without a hang glider on the back.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 - will we ever see a paramotor wing that can go 100kph safely? Or is that fantasy? How about a Sub-70, will that one day cross the 100kph airspeed threshold?
Hi David, the whole poi yof Sub70 is not actually about speed, and no I don't think a paramotor will safely go 100kph.. The Adam is close to 50mph hands off but when you change one thing you loose another.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thanks :- I just found it :) I'm watching alot of your videos recently as I have the bug, trying to find out if it's possible to soar the Adam vs a 13T.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 No hiding the stress of try to work out you can get one, unhappy that it performed so well, wing envy. I might be making all that up but like most Social Media, not going to let the truth get in the way of a good story :-)
