@@kjpkjp8083 Don't know where your from but I can tell you it Defo wasn't worse in Liverpool in the 90's, now the 80's was a Rough AF time to be a kid 💯❤️
For those saying the country's fucked then go to Mexico or Honduras and see how fucked things really are in another country. I hate peoples attitudes when they say it's fucked. Go out and help your community volunteer be kind.
TBf bro it's poorer in those places.. But they're some actual peacefull villages.. Its nuts everywhere in England now.. Its all gone to pot.. Even rich posh people are crazy.. Peaceful village people.. Hardly speak.. I know where I'd rather go for tea
@otey7326 maybe but it doesn't alter the fact that Mexico is a horror show. The cartels couldn't operate in the UK because the army and police would take them off the streets. My point is that unlike the narco states we don't have such massive issues that can't be fixed by better education and more investment. We don't have headless corpses on the streets.
You ok Billy...just saw my old house on there..there's a good story about that estate..in the mid 70s they knocked down all the old houses in cheetham hill and offered everyone who lost their homes a brand new one in harperhey...everyone got a brand new house and we kept most of our old neighbours from cheetham hill...everyone was buzzin cause we had inside toilets..😅...we was one of the first in the in 76..everyone knew each other...the brown kicked in in 84/85 and destroyed it...fookin shame...if you wanna have a proper walk round broughton/cheetham hill let me know and ill show ya round...keep up the good work Billy...😊❤
Same thing happened in L8 but even earlier. We went from 1 man set-ups to organised gangs in the blink of an eye. Entire estates were turned into shitholes as hardworking people fled and were replaced by total paraffins. The only way was down after that shift.
Broughton baths used to have the warmest kids pool ever in the mid eighties - it was literally like being in a bath! We used to go there for swimming class with school and when you completed your badge you could go in the kid pool while waiting for others to finish - it made you want to race like crazy to finish quickly!
When I lived in Moston my next-door neighbour was shot and killed and the shop keeper had his leg blown off with a shotgun, that's just off the top of my head, thats between 01-04. I've lived within 50 yards of a few people I know who have since been convincted of a murder.
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Irish decent. All my dads side stayed in Manchester when they got off the boat in 50s from Donegal. He was the only one to come to London. Miners, tunnellers , hole diggers, all grafters . Been going to Manchester for 50++ years. Great people. Salt of the earth . Thats why so much comes out of the City. First football game i went to. City v Norwich 1978 It was 0-0. Aged 8 . Cousins lifted me over the fence .....good old days . Put me off City though. Red for life ....lol. Enjoying the work. Keep it up. Always positive and an inspiration .
My grandad was from Donegal, I never knew him, he passed away when my mum was 13 months old, she never knew him either 😢 I’ve got his ears my mum always said, sadly not his handsome looks though 😂 I don’t know when exactly he came over but my mum was born in 56, she has 2 older sisters (my aunts). I’m guessing he came over early 40’s maybe late 30’s. McLaughlin was his surname. A few of his brothers ended up in America, Boston Massachusetts. One of his brothers “uncle Dan” came over to see us in mid 1990’s, local papers got involved because he was “long lost family”.
@@Dan23_7 McLaughlin is my name too. Kings of Ireland !! One Uncle went to Canada . There was nothing for them unfortunately back then . Ballyliffen .......small village by the coast. Now famous for its golf !! Beautiful part of the world .
@@Dan23_7same sort of story mate, my papa RIP who none of the us grandkids ever met came over from Donegal early 1900’s, my dad died aged 50 RIP in 1984, but like you say, family all over America etc, my papa, like my father and his siblings were all big families then us ( was 6 of us now 4 ). Same as my mother RIP who’s both parents were from ‘ over the water ‘ our wee ‘ MUM RIP ‘ my mothers mum whom all the Grandkids and some great Grandkids called MUM, I don’t know if it’s an Irish thing from back in the day. Anyway Dan I’m getting carried away here but yes my wee MUMS family were from County Monaghan and her maiden name was Monaghan, then Nolan, and lastly most of us who are still breathing have all been settled in a wee area called the ‘ 3 Toons ‘ on the southwest coast of Bonnie Scotland, at the moment it’s a bit overcast but warm/ clammy with the big bulb in the sky hiding behind a big clump of clouds. Here’s hoping he appears as I’ve promised my youngest and my grandson who stayed over a walk along the beach today. Either way we are going to the beach today and I can like 1000’s of times before look away over the horizon to where it all started. FINISHED!! Dan, wherever and whatever you are doing today, I hope it’s a good 1 and lastly, Billy Moore, keep up the good work mate. ✌️🙏🏻💚💙❤️ 🏴.
Haha,great little story my mams grand parents came from southen Ireland but over 100 years ago,all getting on now mate.my dad's side tracked back all around mcr for over 200 years ago.loved the end bit bout being a red for life,same as.
Nothing compared to Gorton in the 50,60,70s, Hard place, Hard times, Hard people but we laughed a lot. Born and raised there , grew up and thank God got out of the place, "The good old days" no not really.
Stop it how many of your mates where shot dead in Horton in them times? It was poor back then like everywhere but we always thought we were posh going gorton. I did my community service there it’s a posh place compared to north Manchester next to places like reddish and levenshulme very posh mate
@@C0llyhurst Bottle, brick, walking stick, up front and in your face and if you killed some one you got hung you donkey , and Levenshulme/Reddish Are NOT in North Manchester, bet your not even from Manchester.
The majority of ya walk around was Harpurhey(the 1st few streets and Moston Lane apart)should of shown further up the lane around Broadhurst playing fields where the area looks completely different(not Didsbury by any stretch of the imagination but different😉)but it probably wouldn’t have fit in with the narrative of the video..
I used to go to Moston in the 70s ,it was a lovely place the house's were well kept and the people were very friendly .Like most adea's it has been starved of investment,nothing for the young .And has for dumping the local gready councils and central goverment,should be held accountable, charging the already cash stapped public silly amounts for removeing rubbish. North and north west has become a sess pit .
I have lived here at the scrap yard for half a lifetime and its not always been this way, my mar has been here all her life too once upon a time people scrubbed the concrete floors because if your front and back of your house wasn't clean you would have been run out of town, everyone on your street or estate would have been talking about you because we used to have unwritten laws and they rarely were enforced because people respected them, and now they don't, the one thing you didn't want to be in your life was talk of the street therefor these laws kept themselves unless you destroy them and man have they been destroyed. If you dump the cities scum, and shit in a concentrated area well, stands to reason that shit and scum is what you will get....
Born and bred in Moston. Moved out 2 years ago. The problem being, the place used to be lovely, but the government wanted a nice area from the city centre to the airport, so all the shite from South Manchester got moved to places like Moston. It's now sadly a shithole. But no worse than some places in scouse land Billy lad. Lol.. Scott A the kid in the vid I have known since being 6,he has an alcahol problem but a nice kid all the same. To be honest Bill seeing it like this breaks my heart. It was once really thriving. Cracking boozers and shops. The stabbings have mostly Been gang related, with a gang called m40. Aitch the rapper used to knock about with them all before he was famous. But thankfully he has done well for himself and not gone down that road. The kid who died was called John, a nice kid away from the gang. The kids who done him are all in the knick now doing long sentences. You know what aswell mate, with this cost of living etc, things are going to get worse not better, hence why I moved to the States.
Great guy love your podcasts your the best of them all very interesting amd your a genuine guy no like some others your easy on the eye too lol love from glasgow x
Bill, worked up there years and years on the Tarmac, travelled everyday from the POOL up the 62, most people were just normal working class , abit rough like but nothing to worry about, another gritty POD from Bill, well done.
I went out with a lass in Moston '84 when I was in the Army. I remember a young lad getting run over by a bus and it turned into a riot. She bollocked me for going to 'The Museum' for a pint. A wee bit rough but sound lads
@@Jsambo no idea i live in liverpool now, not seen anywhere round here half as sketchy. Moston is not even the worst area, parts of openshaw make it look nice.
@@Jsamboif you’re from a poor area and all you know is poverty and crime then you don’t know it’s wrong. On the flip side a lot of people have rose tinted glasses and are completely oblivious to what goes on around them
Just found your channel and subscribed trouble is billy this is all down to the government not putting money back in to the whole of the UK for years to sort out all the problems out and it's going to get alot worse keep safe on you travels 👍
The government hasn't got any money and whatever they collect through tax they funnel to their friends and families, blatantly and people simply let them get away with it, at best. At worst, they actively cheer it on like during the covid crap - begging the government to help facilitate the biggest wealth transfer in history... from ordinary folks to those who were already rich beyond imagination. Don't forget that they literally had people out in the street clapping for it on a weekly basis.
Corrupt labour council and a corrupt police allowed it to flourish, just like they allowed bury new to go on for decades. They knew what they where doing and now they’ve sold big parts to a multi billionaire conglomerate from the far east
This mainly Harpurhey - Bernard's old club. Moston not posh but not the roughest by a mile. Probably in the middle and like most places that are working class. Places like Collyhurst, Monsall and Miles Platting down the road used to be a lot worse.
@@Diogenes652they knocked it down still no regen nobody has bought the pub. Think they wanted half a million for it and now he wants nearer to a million. Chinese will buy soon as Mcc gave them big plots around there
I live 2 minutes from Moston lane and was never like that, probably the last 10 it’s gone to a shit hole, and the 3 junkies u met on the lane are not homeless they live behind the lane but sit outside the one stop shop begging all day, Scott robbed my sister about 10 years ago, hence the reason he gets beat up a lot, moston lane is getting re developed this year apparently but will still probably be a shit hole
most of your footage was HARPURHEY...not moston!....i lived for over ten years in harpurhey...just opposite conran street market (which you shown)....the official name is the CARISBROOK ESTATE....we lived in those houses with ginnels (rabbit warrens) all over the place..(criminals dream)....we had proper RAZOR wire, all round the property, as well as a big german sheperd outside in his kennel....WE STILL GOT BURGLED!!!....we eventually got out of there, we now live in lytham st annes....the contrast between the two is obvious....when i occasionally go back to manchester....it genuinely gives me the chills...its downright dangerous
Moston is a complete hell. My mate who lived there got a sword pulled on him for literally nothing. Scott knows my mate he got battered with Ash tray in an house once. He's actually harmless so doesn't deserve the grief he gets.
Used see a Bird from Harpurhey about 15 odd years back and it was rough then, she was more towards the new Metro they were building at the time, i remember them condemning about a 2 Square Mile lot of Terraced Houses, i think they were about gentrifying some of it ect. Remember walking down to that Asda's you was at get some stuffs one Night and then getting lost in those Rabbit run Houses/Flats/Alleys, didn't know which fucking way i came from or was supposed to heading too and i left my Phone at hers. Remember having find a Phone Box give her a Bell tell her i was lost she sent her mate out in her Car pick me up LOL. Wild place for sure, some nice folks though, had some fun times :)
Yea that’s Monsall that area near the metrolink. That’s rough as well. Especially near the high rises. Lived in Harpurhey for 4 years on the Carisbrook Estate. Fucking hated it.
My dad and my uncle had a restaurant back in the late seventies and eighties called the galleon restaurant on moston lane or Kenyon lane . Good days back then. Changed alot now .
Billy do Blackley just up the road from moston that’s also a high crime area Av a look if you get chance 👍 Also on the plane back from turkey last week I met a fella who knew you Forgot his first name but his second name was stone I think, Spoke decent about you as he knew you back in the day he was from speak.
Seen other RU-vidrs getting attacked for filming people with addiction problems, Billy talks to these ppl with respect and is always polite ❤ plus I don’t think anybody with a brain would try and lay hands on Billy 🤣🤣🤣
The beginning of your interview was moston lane then you went to harpurhey where the market is located, back in the day if you wanted a bargain you had to be on it at 8am, moston and harpurhey have lost the community spirit, everyone knew their neighbors but over time that changed and to me moston and harpurhey changes were the start of the problem, once the mip market went and they raised the rents on moston market and Conran st market, a big part of the community was destroyed and it gradually got worst, I live in an end terrace and could open a second hand shop with what is dumped every week outside my house, beds cooker fridges electric fires, when I see a mattress on my wall I know we are going to get mice AGAIN !!!! but the sad thing is a lot of us mostonians are decent people, it’s just not the majority any more because people have given up as we get no help or back up from the council, I have lived in my house for 42 years and wanted to live my life out here but I am going to do what all the others have done and sell up and move out, xx
Your in harpurhey at the end not moston but still it's all a shit hole, left their in 2005, Huddersfield now,a lot quieter I'm 62 now, still travel to Manchester as I have family there,also one brother in moston but the other two are well gone from there
Stab victim is an old friend of mine and can only be described as salt of the earth. He would give you his last pound, Moston and Harpurhey are just like any other deprived area of Britain full of good and bad. I've been a resident of Harpurhey for 50 years and have seen my fair share of life in these poor areas. Not too long ago, the good people outnumbered the bad 100/1 But these days I'm afraid it's more like 50/50, yes, of course I'm eggaerateing but it really seems like it. I stand by my description of most of the residents are salt of the earth.
You`re right Billy home is where the heart is and it`s about being comfortable with your surroundings and knowing the people. Where I live there has been in the last few years, burnt out car on the main road where the shops are, the morrisons shop gets stuff pinched practically on a daily basis, local premier shop has a few thefts and at least 3 robberies within the last couple of years as well as two ram raids possibly three, there was a great Indian curry house but got set on fire and to be honest it looked like it had been hit with a cruise missile such was the damage done to it, it`s got a few crackheads running around as well as others who are doing drugs. Thing is I love the place I couldn`t imagine wanting to live anywhere else. I know that sounds daft but I`m comfortable here and I love the place.
After the the tragedy in manchester in 1992 all of Manchester changed. As mentioned parts of Manchester quitened down as a project of regeneration began. Forcing parts of the population to be rehoused. Gangs broken up with hefty prison sentences imposed. Moston recived about 100 new properties and housed the same people of the generationaly unemployed. It's the town time forgot. One of the most ugly spots in Manchester and has 0 investment from public or private parties. It's a seriously boring place for adults and children. Sad but true.
Moston? We call it Poshton where I live - they don't know how good they've got it round there! That little estate, around 7:00 in, had loads of greenery, a slide and even a trampoline. No pleasing some people.
So sad to see this, the streets of this country are heartbreaking, like the guy said they stick you miles away from what you know, it's no wonder that they get into bother when your face doesn't fit. It's a shame, I was homeless last year when me and my Mrs split up and I ended up in Chester, in a hostel/ hotel, it was full of people in the same position, miles from what they know and who they know, there are dozens and dozens of empty properties all across the country, we should not have any homelessness in this day and age, councils need to act and soon.
Quick facts about Moston, Harperhey and the surrounding areas. Just down the road is a town called Openshaw. Openshaw once had a massive industrial area, steelworks, gas works and others, and employed men and women from all over Manchester but predominately from the Eastern parts of Manchester. I know this cause my dad was a steelworker in Openshaw. The high streets were littered with shops galore as well as hundreds of pubs. There was a real community in these towns. And in 1979, Maggie got into power. Most of the industrial works were closed down. Men and women made redundant. The high streets started to crumble. The local MPs were fcuking useless. No new industries came to East Manchester. The 1980s were bleak, and even the UN got in on the act when it released its yearly report on global poverty and mentioned Gorton (just down the road from Moston) as a very depraved area. Communities fell apart. Industrial buildings were pulled down as was homes classed as slums. Pubs that had stood on their own spots for over a century were pulled down. And this has continued through to 2024. You'll notice a lot of open spaces in Moston. Green areas. These were once houses or work places. Long pulled down and forgotten about. My dad is now 88 and now and again I take him to were his works once was, and he always gets teary eyed at the state of the street around that old steelworks. I don't have the answers on Moston etc, there are generations living their since 1979 that have been unemployed or in and out of work coupled with an MP that claims a salary under false pretences. No one takes pride in those streets anymore because its gone to far, and the council don't do street cleaning or weed killing anymore.
@NosyFella Moston is 66.8 percent white according to the 2021 census. Its 2024 now so its probly about 60 . I am talking about the Ben Brierley area ,mainly Moston Lane and that area. If you go further up its more white.
Vile living billy , councils do sod all but the leaders of the coucils pick up 200 grand a year , plus bonuses of thousands..they should be , by law commited to tour these estatesseveral times a year and as part of there idle wealth they should live in any empty houses for a period or they get no bonus and cuts in wage. Then they may do some good ..i despair, i am 74 this year but give me a flatbed , and on my own i could clear rubbish and give people hope. Out of site out of mind are councils..
Moston Lane was good when I was younger. It’s now been taken over and one of the shops had no whites in the window. That shop got shot up. Gill street Gang ran it round there when I was younger.
i lived in moston for 5 years it's a dump, plenty of murders and shit when i was there, i was opersite pizza lane shop about 100 yards from where you were talking at the shops, think it was from 1995 to 2000 i was there
Lived in moston for a month or two in the 90s and was shot at over a tenner bagga swag, it made me laugh it's not violent but two murders, he stabbed up and a paving stone over his crust , wouldn't like to see violent.😆😆.
