Isolated Tommy Lee drum track. Multitracks - / kiboko My second channel - / @bonzosdrumgrooves259 When creating this video, an freeware audio editor was used.
@@dietersteinhardt2553mick carried motley but for being as big of a druggy as Vince and Nikki were I gotta hand it to tommy for still making some sick beats
Its interesting tempo-wise...it feels like when he starts a section, he rushes a little, then leans back into the groove as far as he can without throwing the band off. Like he knows how to kick it up a few BPM for dramatic effect, then lay back, groove, and let the others kind of shine.
@@ryanroma5724 Everyone always calls out Peart for being a metronome, but the right push/pull like you’re saying makes a song wake up, and in the era of programmed, perfectly quantized stuff, it does have a massive effect.
@@Twominutedevotions peaple saying Peart is a metronome is just ignorance on their part, Peart pushes and pulls the tempo too, even when playing to a click track
Oh man, this is great to hear isolated! It's so easy to overlook what makes this a great drum track - many of the mechanics are in fact rudimentary, but so are the parts of most truly great drum tracks that serve the music they are a component of. To me, you have first and foremost Tommy's driving, vital throbbing pulse - his time is impeccable, and the main parts fit the riffs beautifully - and particularly the chorus parts drive that classic riff forward with fantastic feeling that is 100% consistently in the pocket he establishes throughout the tune. Next, you have those little Tommy flourishes that were already his signature from TFFL, and here being only 20, are kind of notable. These being the strategic cymbal chokes on certain accents - at a time when people really weren't using splashes or any true effects cymbals. While cymbal choking was well established at this point, he tends to use them in the context of ongoing beats to emphasize staccato accents in the song (rather than for unison band hits a la Master of Puppets for instance). Next, his driving quarter note snare drum hits in the timekeeping as the song starts to vamp out, paired with the kick drums and the tom fills. The timekeeping on the cymbal bell (much like his use of cowbell in other songs) has a feel that makes it identifiable as Tommy in the way all great drummers have a ride cymbal sound that amounts to a sonic signature. All very Tommy. Last, his drums sound fucking fantastic. They are tuned perfectly for the setting - open and loud, but articulate enough to always be punchy. This is a combo of selecting the right heads, tuning them, and the physicality of the player - and he's achieved the balance often reserved for a much older player. They didn't have expensive techs yet and early live shows and TTFL prove he was already doing this before this major label date. Granted, the engineering and mix are total pro work. Anyway, this is the very reason I picked up drums 30 years ago and it's good to see it stands on its own merits as an influence all this time later. Interestingly, Tommy's style and technique didn't really perceptibly evolve much from here. Kind of an idiot savant you might say. Like Lars was at this time as well. Anyway, anyone writing him off may not have quite the ear or experience to discern why having a drummer this gifted was at least half the reason Motley Crue went anywhere at all. God knows it wasn't the singing, or the songs for that matter beyond a handful of decent rockers. Plus, many of his contemporaries weren't even on the studio albums - studio cats were standard (think Cinderella, Quiet Riot, etc). Cheers!
Wow well said! He’s definitely one of my favorites if not “the” favorite. His flourishes, his stick/showmanship, and sound. I grew up loving big drumsets from this era. So I’m the late 90s early 2000s I was the only one still using big drum sets in my area while everyone switching to the bare minimum. The one ride Tom/floor Tom and 2 cymbals lol. All flat of course.
There is a huge undeniable energy to this take. Just totally badass. I used to air drum to this song all the time. No we know why. Tommy is more talented than A) he lets on, and B) he gets credit for.
I think people really underestimate how important is to be "in the pocket" To some this is a simple song. To the ones that know, this is a masterpiece of perfect placed notes to create a pop metal grove that changed a generation. This would not have happened without Tommy's playing. This includes Frankie Banali and Rick Allen.
Absolutely... If more drummers listened to Phil Rudd, and followed his example, rock music would finally be off the life support its been on for the past two decades.
@@Dex000x I reckon it's the quantizing that's killing drumming these days. There's so much feel that comes from the drums, but when a producer starts moving the beats around the feel vanishes into thin air and the song ends up sounding like a bad techno track.
I love how you can faintly hear the guitars especially in the solo section! How you get your hands on these drum tracks is so awesome 🤘this channel is wicked!
The 80s Tommy Lee and crue were great they were my favorite band from 83 to 97 after that who cares generation swine was the end for me. Love every album before that one. In my book Tommy has always been underrated even though he's a poser now he is a great musician who knows his stuff great rhythm on his part him and mick were the ones who knew what they were doing. All in all to me the crue could write some good metal songs. From 1981 to 1997 the crue ruled to bad they suck now bunch of posers oh well I can always just put my theatre of pain cassette in the tape deck and bang my head.
This is incredible to hear Tommy's isolated tracks! Thank you so much for posting this! Any chance you could do one for Primal Scream or Take Me To The Top or Red Hot?
He plays really well to the click. Other tunes he plays better than this one. It seems he wants to push it here so there’s a sense of wanting to rush, not so much in the pocket. He’s the best musician in this band for sure.
Mariano Lopez 😁😁 I truly loved The Corabi recordings. But no doubt, shout at the devil is one of the best damn albums ever produced. But,, hooligans holiday though 🤘
I didn't like his snare sound on the Corabi one.. probably because on every song he buried the stick into the snare.. there is such a thing as hitting hard and hitting too hard where the drum has nowhere to go.
Yeah I don’t see it. Let me know. For some reason it seems a little off from the other version I have I probably just need to adjust the bpm. :) thx!!!
Yes, there may be a slight difference from the original. If you mean it. I already noticed it on other tracks. I suppose that this effect is achieved by resampling the audio track during conversion (possibly repeated). And also when converting audio to RU-vid format. But it is easy to fix, knowing the original tempo - any audio editor allows you to do this.
Solid enough drumming and probably the best from that glam era of the 80's and 90's but nothing here to trouble a serious drummer. The ride chorus sounds much better than the basic beat driving the song quarter notes on the hi-hat over 1 and 3 on the bass drum, not the most original. Also you can hear a massive gulf in talent from the 60's and 70's drummers to the glam drummers.
I definitely wouldn't judge Tommy Lee's talent by this track alone. It's a good heavy tune, but he could play much busier stuff when the track called for it.
MarcusFenix50 He is a nice solid drummer but well down the rankings of any best drummer lists but what he is is a very good fit for Crue. I have seen Crue fill in with different drummers and it hasn't worked. Crue need Tommy Lee.
Actually, any serous drummer would know better than to over-play in a straight song like this. The drum tracks weren't recorded to 'trouble' anyone, but to support the song. Happy 12th birthday!
Dirface Listened to a lot of him and seen him live and he is ok. He was inspirational to some as asked a number of times by students to break down Tommy Lee songs so I ended up learning Too Fast for Love the album.,He had an impact on the sales of cowbells.
