Motocross Action's 2024 250 Shootout 

100% agreed! I’m more worried about value, maintenance, and longevity/reliability rather than tune maps, peak hp, and other insignificant features. There is a $3000 cost differential between the Suzuki and the Husky!!!

If they would take that in account yamaha and honda would be before gas gas at least

@sevay696 What makes you think that? KTM builds longer lasting engines than any of Japo brands. That's well known!

@@Davido50 A Honda is way more reliable and parts are cheaper and easier to find bro

@@Davido50 Ktm?? With their Kymco made cylinders? Husq, Gas Gas and KTM 2020+ models aint lasting long. Saw 450 GasGas with blown piston after 150hmth

also ducati is looking forward to join motocross

It's a great time for MX riders /racers. About time the Asian brands got stomped. Let's see how good the new Triumph (British) brand will be. Ricky Carmichael has been a huge part of its development. They benchmarked the KTM 250SXF. It's best 250 hands dwn! #Maxima #KTM #F150Raptor

​@@albertoramos4312that's actually exciting

Yeah man I’m ready to see some new manufacturers!

I’d like to see the TM race bikes added in

But ktms did

Exactly!

It is majestic, especially that pipe

RM army 💪🏻

Totally agree ktms are bags of shit

lol.

Yea but that bike is an eyesore to look at.. ugly ass 🫐

I'm fat as well.

@@stmboat😂😂😂😂 straight up

Man what I’m 230-240 and I was telling my boy my bike soft and I told him how much I weigh and he was like it’s not soft your just heavy 🤦‍♂️ 😅

I'm 190 @6" tall. Hardly skinny or fat. Eat less. Diet. Train more. Not easy but anyone can achieve better fitness.

Ngl once mine broke in it actually wasn't that bad. I have 10hrs on my 24 250r already, and I've over jumped a couple jumps already with it, and it was pretty smooth. (I'm 160lbs @5'11").

I'm a jdm boy and yamaha is the way to go for me. but if ktm builds the best bikes it's only right that they acknowledge that

Typical of recent years.

This is very very false and another scapegoat answer for the other manufacturers. They have posted extended videos, explaining that. Yes there are other bikes that you can add for example, a sprocket to or a pipe, too, or some thing and it can become better, if you ride, you should know better and should know that any bike is great. As long as you have a positive perception of your bike get the set up right and believe that the equipment under you is Good enough to do the job at hand and you are willing to work on your own form and abilities. This is a test for stock 100,000,000% stock, and right off the showroom floor. There is no doubt that the Austrian bikes have more race parts are more reliable and are a better option if you are willing to pay the price tag, which is not very significant difference these days as the other brands have increased their pricing. People need to get over themselves and stop hating on some thing because they don’t like it or can’t afford it.

@@fasterthanyou7605 hubris much ? 🤦‍♂️

@@jamessharp9790 learn to talk then comment

Base valve shims (.3 mm thick) are the culprit. That’s basically SX/FMX base valve, extremely stiff (one .3 mm shim is like nine .1 mm shims in terms of stiffness)

By “as always” did you mean “different to just last year”…? Yamaha was 3rd last year and the Suzuki comes last in literally every shootout because it hasn’t been updated in forever. Would you rather they just pick names out of a hat rather than giving actual opinions (which many others around the world seem to agree with)?

Yep.. and the fact the crap he said about Yamaha no other channel has said those things.. plus Yamaha has the bike at all zeros once you put hard hitting or other tunes that bike comes on hard and more hp. Moranz said the yz is flat out awesome. Hp, cornering, suspension and so on..

You like to blame KTM or MXA or Suzuki?

@@bertbroeder1832 he’s getting at the fact the guy mainly always picks KTM even when it has worse traits than other bikes. All other magazines and channels will pick something completely different and all could pick Yamaha as number one and he would still put ktm. Even when they are known to blow motors and break pistons. Subframes snap right off..

Suzuki hasn’t made an update since Travis use to compete 😂

Suzuki is a great MX bike overall. KTM is tops in performance/durability followed by Yamaha i'd have to say.

Yes exactly 💯

And they kick over usually first or second go. I’ve got a 2021 RMZ 250 sick fun

yeah i wouldn't get a bike without a kick starter

Sucks when on a slope or in mud trying to kick start bike as racers fly by you. But understand wanting kick start as nobody knows how to make a good battery nowadays. They should have both.

Everyone needs to hear that, they always have to go with Honda or Yamaha because they are “the only way to go” but they won’t give Suzukis a chance, they call them crap without actually riding one, it makes zero sense

@@aydenrich262 Anyone that calls Suzuki crap doesn't know MX history! I prefer Suzuki (of jap brands) though KTM is my favorite last 4yrs. They are quite far ahead.

Gave up in 93, asked the father for a break from racing as I'd been at it from 85 to 92or from 8y0 to 17yo, he said noi said goodbye, totally cut myself off from mx until recently and wtaf 10,000 grand, unbelievable no KX100 boo fooking hoo............

I was a huge Suzuki guy in my racing days. My last bike was a 2002 RM125, and in the handling department, that bike did half the riding for me. I stunk in the corners, but on that bike, I railed them. Just a magic machine imo.

I'm waiting for yamaha to do a yellow yz lineup til I buy.

Couldn't agree more. I only ride once or twice a month if that and I absolutely love my RMZ. Awesome price for a bike for truthfully any level of rider. The kickstart tends to not bother me as much personally, it gives me more of a nostalgic feeling like being back on my 01' CR250

@@shadecomfortss yeah and batteries need maintenance in the off season or they just don't last.

@@yukonjon5964exactly. If the batteries go flat and you don’t have a spare or jump pack you won’t be starting it using the e-start.

Also not too mention if the starter motor goes as well

@@Bbirks and what's more, no kick starter on the new bikes. so its smart to get the bike that still has one. be better if they sold an option of both for the trail riders, and then no kick starter for the racers to keep the weight down.

Factory bikes are not a direct comparison

@@kainelson5837 not talking factory.

Maybe its the rider.

hp is only on paper. its the one that sits on top that makes the difference. stock ktm will beat a stock yamaha in 9/10 , if they had the same driver.

KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯

or they build the best bikes? could be an option.. just sayin

Same here

Me too

Love my Kaw ✊💪✌️😉

They will twist it. A few years back honda had most power and to this day killer handling. And the cried too much power.

KX has a stiff fork - just because it's kyb doesn't mean the "setting" is desireable. Kawasaki decides what valving combo the bike comes with. Additionally - the chassis plays a big role in felt stiffness - the kx gives more feedback than the yamaha chassis does - in exchange for what I feel is better trust of the stability. I think if they did a "mod bike" shootout - with say 5k budget - it could be really interesting. Pipe, clamps, suspension and some minor motor work would be about that budget. All the bikes would get a lot closer as the slower ones respond bigger to work than the faster ones.

Stay mad lol

@@dumbdumb572 not mad just fake news.

More like 15 but yeah Quality stuff , wp after 15hrs suits about a 50 kilogram fast rider but still needs a fix anyway but yeah a mates Son at 50kgs goes well on the stock stuff :)

@@motozz8258 i’m 105kg, Stock WP on my Husqvarna was so screwed up.. really had to adjust it to my weight

Idk I loved my kyb straight out the box. I’m 6’2 195, I switched from 4t ktm’s to a 23 yz250x last year and I haven’t touched a clicker front or back yet.

check out the latest rev limiter specs... the KX250 has way more top end RPM's than even this years Yamaha.

I respect that, also why i'd never buy a used high rev'er 😅

The stock pipe IS the ProCircuit pipe, he explained that.

Don't think Fantic is available in the US.

Isn't fantic the same bike as Yamaha?

@@FreEmotions_Realnot the current model though

@@Matt-dz6qn what is it then?

@@FreEmotions_Real it’s a Yamaha but it’s the previous model. Fairly certain they bought the old frame and motor from Yamaha

That would be really interesting

I agree, almost biased

Look at what Roczen has done on the worst bike in the class

Honda is overrated. I went KTM an never looked bk.

You can't ride an MX bike on trails in designed areas there?

@@Davido50 you can not ride a 2022 or newer mx bike, even in a designated Off highway vehicle area, because 2022 and newer bikes no longer qualify for OHV registration because of unrealistic smog standards. You can only ride on private property, or tracks.

@@KQKQ23I got a 350 xcf with a red sticker also they said they could get sx models with sticker also at the ktm shop

I got a 2023 350

KTM is the KING of offroad. They have won the most supercross & motocross championships out of any manufacturer in the last 20 years. and have dominated enduro 25 years in a row. DOMINANT 🍊💯

@@RogerT-kt3zd yeah I wish I could get $20000 in parts for free. These are stock bikes

@@chazzgonzalez1356 Austrian bikes are the best stock bikes on the market

@@RogerT-kt3zdno they’re not, they are overpriced for no reason

Freshly groomed😂

Nice. European or American made for the win! 💯

Well, BEST bike stock will be the best bike modded 99% of time. If was me i'd go KTM. Their engines last longer before rebuilds as well.

@@Davido50 Yeah you are right. I never went KTM. I had a KTM 65 but that was a long time ago and the only KTM that I owned. I will give them a look. Thanks!

@@Davido50false, the mod jap bikes are definitely better. Look at how the star Yamahas perform compared to husky/ktm

KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯

@@RogerT-kt3zd lmao

They are sugar coating it a little bit

What they did to Honda was a tragedy

I’m sure you can’t tell with the Suzuki to the best

Its not going to be into the market for a little bit.

It comes with the best pro circuit pipe😂

There’s nothing wrong with that

yep. just when they finally give us shock linkage back, they go to air forks.