Motorcraft FL910S Oil Filter vs. Motorcraft FL400S Oil Filter Comparison

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Oil Filter Inspection.
These two different-sized Motorcraft oil filters fit the same vehicle. Let's open them up and see how they compare!
Motorcraft Fl910s: www.walmart.com/ip/Engine-Oil...
Motorcraft FL400s: www.walmart.com/ip/Motorcraft...
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@brandonupchurch7628 Год назад

I was in Rural King a few weeks ago and I was looking at their house brand filters, their fl910 equivalent is about the same size as an fl910 and only costs $2, but what's supposed to be their fl400 equivalent is only like a half inch taller at most than the fl910 and it costs a dollar more so I don't even know why they bother having the two filters and don't just tell you to use the 910 equivalent in applications that call for the 400 like most quick lube places would do anyways. I find it disappointing that over the years that Ford shortened the fl400 from around 5 inches tall to around 4 inches when the aftermarket equivalents are mostly still the same ~5in height.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks for Sharing👍

@OfficialNakatsuMegami Год назад

You can sub a FL1A out for the FL400 or FL910 if it will fit. It is a very long filter with the same Filtration Specification but much higher flow rate.

@brandonupchurch7628 Год назад

I know that but the Fl1A these days doesn't cost the same as the fl910 of fl400 anymore they're like $8-10, at that price you might as well spring for a premium filter like the Fram FE8A, especially with Purolato/Motorcrafts bad history of larger diameter filters tearing in service.

@LA_Commander 8 месяцев назад

They shortened it because there were many small cars with low ground clearance which required the (short) FL-910 filter. Problem was many people (and quicky lube shops) were installing the FL-400 filter instead since it would fit. Then someone would scrape the bottom of the filter with an obstacle on the ground and poof! you have a major oil leak. So Ford did this as a preventative measure.

@TNitroH 7 месяцев назад

Some short filters have a smaller center core that makes up for the shorter length. The filter media square inches are the same or even more. Stick with what Ford recommends

@user-px2xz1bu1x 8 месяцев назад

You would think the oil filter manufacturer would be on their toes with quality control because more people are cutting oil filters open to see what the filter has caught. Thank you for your time.

@WhipCityWrencher 8 месяцев назад

You're Welcome. It's probably a small percentage that actually watch these videos, so they dont care.

@kbeg132 Год назад

Hi Pete, Awesome video! I have used many Motorcraft filters over the years, but that glue is concerning. Glad you are taking the time to do these videos. Enjoy the weekend.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Kevin Thanks👍 Have a great weekend😊

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

► Thanks For Watching! I try and make an oil filter inspection video every Friday on this RU-vid Channel, Thank You! 👍

@WrenchingMafia Год назад

Great video Whip like always, what a way to start my Friday thanks

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks Wrenching👍

@jeffreymann8330 6 месяцев назад

I use both of these filters on my Fords. The FL910S is for the 2003 Ford Focus with the 2.3 4cyl engine. The FL400S is the OE filter for the Ford Taurus with the larger 3.0 OHV engine. 3.0 OHV engine.

@Johncourt409 10 месяцев назад

Those glue particles could easily break loose and get into circulation. I wonder how that would affect the engine? It would seem they need to get better quality control. If you didn’t take the time to do these videos most of us would never know. Thanks for keeping us all informed.

@WhipCityWrencher 10 месяцев назад

You're Welcome John👍 Thanks!

@ginog5037 7 месяцев назад

The cam phasers would not be happy to start with, let alone the bearings.

@RetirednbrokeinPa Месяц назад

I don’t care for sloppy glue jobs, but if that glue was not capable of standing up to hot oil the filters would pretty much fall apart. I don’t think sloppy glue application is anything to worry about. Most that I’ve seen were sloppy on the outside of the filter anyway. Not to be argumentative, but realistic.

@OfficialNakatsuMegami Год назад

The FL1A also fits in place of the FL910S. Some Fords the FL1A will not fit, like on the Focus, but will barely fit on the Fiesta. I always go larger if it fits for Lower Flow Restriction of the same filtration spec.

@SimpleTastyFood2024 Год назад

Another great comparison and review Pete! TFS Merri :)

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, Merri👍

@jeffkortsch8276 Год назад

When I owned a Ford that had the 910S from the factory, I used them every time I changed the oil. They were cheap at Walmart, had the silicone anti-drainback valve and the preferred base plate end bypass valve. With the poor glue control for the 400S, it appears that quality was job 243 though.

@j.t.cooper2963 Год назад

You can't expect 100% perfection when they are mass produced by the millions. The same is true of all mass produced items.

@jeffkortsch8276 Год назад

@@j.t.cooper2963 I don’t expect 100% perfection and didn’t say that I do. For the one (1) FL400S in Whip’s video, it appears quality control missed the excess glue.

@ellalamont6943 Год назад

YaY to Steve! So nice of him! My brother, Adam, and I watched this video together. He liked it! Went to visit him yesterday. Great job, Cuz! 👍

@ellalamont6943 Год назад

Have a Great Weekend! 😊

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Cool, Thanks Ela😊 I hope Adams doing well, tell him I said hi. Have a Great weekend also.👍

@ellalamont6943 Год назад

@@WhipCityWrencher Will do! Thanks! 😊

@bradbyers7505 Год назад

This is a revealing comparison. Again, I’d like to see a larger sample size to find out if all the larger filters have sloppy construction with excessive glue, or if it’s just an anomaly. Thanks again, Whip.

@softwaresignals Год назад

More samples needed, yes. However, I've seen several Motorcrafts (Purolators) opened up, and glue is very often excessively thrown around. Your odds are probably not that great of getting that Lucky clean one. Every time Whip City or somebody else has opened up a "Microgard Select" (must say "select", not the cheaper Microgard one) it has always looked right. I think Fram Ultra/Endurance/Titanium is also OK.

@daewooparts Год назад

Seen these missing the threads too ,or unfinished threads

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome Brad👍

@Paul1958R 2 месяца назад

I had a 2001 Ford Escort ZX2 with the 2.0L Zetec (DOHC) engine and 5-speed manual transmission that we purchased new in August 2001. I drove it 275K miles until I had to have it crushed in 2015 because it had rotted out badly (Im in New England) and was not safe to drive. I had religiously changed the oil every 6K miles and mostly used Motorcraft FL-2005 oil filters (what the owners manual called for) which Ford replaced in 2010(ish) with the FL-400S which was the identical diameter but about 3/4 inch shorter. At the end the engine still ran perfectly. I currently use Motorcraft FL-910S in my 2005 Focus with 199K on it.

@WhipCityWrencher 2 месяца назад

I know what you mean about cars rusting, I live in New England also. Thanks for Sharing👍

@wasabitoburrion4409 Год назад

I used to buy the Motorcraft oil filter for my old Mercury Marquis. The venerable FL1A which was the old standard oil filter for all 60’s, 70’s and most 80’s Fords.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Yep, the FL1A fits my Explorer but I won't use it. They gave it a dome-end bypass valve also. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wObQmZTFRYs.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher

@davidcampbell1899 Год назад

Those motorcraft Filters are made by Mann and Hummel (purolator) Who ever is setting up the machine that applies the glue to the to the end caps is not doing it properly! The person who is responsible for doing a quality control check on the filter glue application (spot checks on the first 100 filters) after a production restart, after adding more glue to the system, is not doing their job! I hope FORD sees your video and show it to purolator.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, Dave👍 I hope they see it too

@ginog5037 7 месяцев назад

They don't care anymore, sad😢

@jensenwilliam5434 Год назад

Interesting videos! Thank s.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome Jensen👍

@TargaWheels Год назад

I wonder if its quality control, different place of manufacture, or both? The excess glue is quality control, but the metal crimp seam versus the glued seam seems like different place of manufacture.

@ivanmitchell3876 Год назад

thanks 4 this sir.quality seems 2 be an issue 4 a lot of filters.again thank you 4 this video.🌚👍.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

You're Welcome Ivan👍

@faxmen09 Год назад

Yeah, poor QC on the 400S. See excess potting thing from time to time on the Purolator made filters like MC. Thing about it, if it was to break loose from base endcap, possible in a bypass event could go directly to back to engine through base bypass opening. Those couple things combined not common, but still. Something Steve might want to consider, using the non-spec 400 and if 2020 vehicle still under warranty, if something was to happens to engine, Ford could void warranty. Anytime using non spec filter, the filter warranty voided. Steve should stick to 910S, no need for the 400 even if no QC issues. 910S also a good OPE filter option, value price. Thanks for the vid.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, faxmen09👍

@Gary7even Год назад

The QC on "domestic" filters is really getting terrible. The Asian-made filters never have this excess glue problem.

@softwaresignals Год назад

Excess loose glue problems appear to be random. Some makes probably have it more. Motorcraft (Purolator) has poor quality control. Good filter WHEN they make it right, but can you trust it? More consistent quality control: "MicroGard Select", Fram Ultra or Titanium

@scottymoondogjakubin4766 Год назад

I would say besides sludge that loose glue could end up clogging a lifter oil passage or a hydraulic timing chain tensioner passage ! Even oil filter media could do this if the oil filter is not changed out ! I have seen all 3 and they are not cheap repairs !

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

I'm thinking the same thing

@TheDodgefan9 7 месяцев назад

Have you considered doing an ACDelco, Motorcraft, and Mopar filter comparisons? That could be interesting.

@WhipCityWrencher 7 месяцев назад

Yes, I've done som Mopar, Motorcraft comparisons.

@missysass1806 Год назад

Good weekend whip full watch 👍

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, Missy👍 Have a Good weekend also😊

@stefanpuffer 6 месяцев назад

I'd use the 910S because it's what the people who designed and built it put on there and because the bypass pressures are so different. If it were a pound or two fun, but 5.5 lbs is a big difference. You're not gaining much by going to the bigger filter so it's not really worth it.

@boskiles2369 Год назад

Big like 50 great Info 😊👍 🐕

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, Bo👍

@enigma9789 9 месяцев назад

They have a different micron rating. I use the fl400s on a turbo charged yamaha waverunner making around 375hp and spinning 9800rpm

@WhipCityWrencher 9 месяцев назад

I think the micron ratings are the same. Thanks for Watching👍

@toenails. Год назад

That could clog up passages in the engine over prolonged use of those filters.

@twinforce_fusion6560 11 месяцев назад

Not sure if Ford does like GM. They install a smaller filter at the engine assembly, but then, the dealers install the larger one (ex: AC Delco PF43 to PF63). but I could be completely wrong.

@PapiDoesIt 11 месяцев назад

Looks like quality control was out for lunch when that one went down the line.

@bradzyczynski660 Год назад

I recently changed oil on a 2009 ford edge. That model year has 2 different filters. I bought the small one and it didn't spin on as it was too big so had to exchange it in the middle of an oil change. Make sure you know which your car has...

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Brad Thanks for Sharing👍

@LA_Commander 5 месяцев назад

Next time check which filter is already on the car. That should help avoid the problem

@aaronatwood9298 Год назад

That 400s looked sloppy. Dismissing that, I’m more hesitant to change from stock on turbo engines. That difference in bypass pressure could mean the difference the turbo starving for oil. The difference in filtering media size is negligible.

@Resistculturaldecline Год назад

And with the Variable Valve Timing systems that use engine oil for hydraulic pressure. Pressure & flow rate are more important than ever, nowadays.

@jonnyb4336 Год назад

If 27% is negligible, well, that’s an opinion. If your saying it’s not a top priority over other factors then I can understand…. Flow rate will be better on the higher media-area 400.

@NodakSavage 8 месяцев назад

Slapping the 400 on my Pontiac Vibe.

@davesubers3415 Месяц назад

This is not the only review that found the excess glue on the 910S I would not buy in the future. Oil filters are cheep compared to a blown engine!.

@save16thave Год назад

I've used many of the 400s filters when I drove 3.0l V6 Taurus's. I mean probably more than 100 of them over the years. But I never disected one. That glue is really ugly. It could easily plug up an oil passage.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks for Sharing👍

@spankyham9607 Год назад

After watching your reviews and seeing so many that can be good, or can be a total glue slop fest, I think I am becoming a fan of cartridge filters. I wasn't because they are rip off on pricing, but at least you can look at the filter element where as the standard filters it is like Russian Roulette on your engine.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Good point👍

@kellybennett2900 Год назад

So very true.

@jamescaron6465 Год назад

I like the 400 but all that sloppy glue is totally unacceptable. a little drip here and there might be OK but all that slop should never happen. It is all over the base of the media, too. Based on that, I'd use the 910 I do like the upper bypass valve, more filters should have them. Considering how thin modern oil is cold, I don't think the difference in the PSI in the bypass valves should matter, however They can keep all that glue. Come to think of it, I think I will stick to my purolator bosses. What is it with that glue? that is ridiculous.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, Jim👍 Yep, a lot of glue in areas where it shouldn't be.

@mikehrdlicka8635 Год назад

I purchased a purolator one for our 06 equinox looked in the threaded hole seen the dome. Bypass must be at threaded end

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Mike, I think your Equinox has a built-in by-pass valve none is needed on the oil filter.

@mikehrdlicka8635 Год назад

Pbl 10111

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

@@mikehrdlicka8635 Yep, you have a separate bypass valve. www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3467241&cc=1431999&pt=720&jsn=1007

@mikehrdlicka8635 Год назад

Your right didn't see one in the pl10111 either. The only reason I bought the boss is grabbed the wrong ones generally buy purolator one. Maby with the boss change filter every other change. Only go around 4000 mile changes. I started looking into filter after watching your videos. Have a good weekend.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

@@mikehrdlicka8635 4 to 5k oil changes are good IMHO

@josephbailey1995 9 месяцев назад

You need to add a conclusion with your reviews, your preference and recommendations.

@mikeyh.59 11 месяцев назад

I just went to my local dealer to get an oil filter for my F350 6.7L. The price went up from $40 to $70 CAD. They claim that Ford redesigned the filters. I would really like to know what they changed. Old part FL 2051 S. New part FL 2124 S. Thankyou

@WhipCityWrencher 11 месяцев назад

RockAuto has them for $20.89 www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=14790225&jsn=277

@mikeyh.59 11 месяцев назад

Thanks. Unfortunately I'm up in Canada. With the exchange, duty, tax, and shipping I would guess its not much cheaper. I found some at DirtyDieselCustoms for $35. Cheers@@WhipCityWrencher

@WhipCityWrencher 11 месяцев назад

@@mikeyh.59 Cheers Mike👍 Same here, oil filters along with a lot of other items are a lot more than they were just 3 years ago. Hope it gets better soon. A car battery I bought 3 years ago cost around $85.00 same battery now $140.00🙁

@LA_Commander 5 месяцев назад

If you have Walmart in Canada try going there.

@PoKeKidMPK1 11 месяцев назад

do you know the difference between the fl820s and fl500s? do you know which is older as well?

@WhipCityWrencher 11 месяцев назад

I don't think there interchangeable as the 820s is about an inch wider.

@PoKeKidMPK1 11 месяцев назад

@@WhipCityWrencher that is interesting... i keep seeing older forums say they are interchangeable and that things such as manuals (mine doesnt specify except for someone said on yt, thats it just recommends motorcraft for minimum specs) or stores recommend 820s for bigger ford trucks... and people at the desks question how its a 500s and that their descriptions say otherwise... (at least for advance auto) yet everyone on here and on the cars themselves, i see thinner longer filters and that as you say, the 820s are bigger... i even see people say the 500s are more efficient and that the 820s tear more... also ty very much for the fast reply. i myself put in a fl500s and as it was the same size as a previous purolator filter (idk if tl22500 is old now) and it fits, but i was originally lead on to believe the 820s is for the truck...

@WhipCityWrencher 11 месяцев назад

The reason I said I didn't think they were interchangeable is because the gasket size is different, but it still may work anyway, it depends on the surface that it mounts to, and if you have the room. I would rather use the FL500s anyway. Did you see this video that I made a couple of weeks ago? The FL820s looks like garbage. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fyqNFdlGLjo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher

@PoKeKidMPK1 11 месяцев назад

@@WhipCityWrencher LOL the end of the comment made me laugh after seeing some of your other vids mentioning the glue (in addition to the forums and comments mentioning tears...), so thats what i was expecting before the vid. and sure enough in the vid there is a lot of glue on the motorcraft one. i guess all of the motorcraft filters would be like that though sadly... its a shame because when you look at the filters under the microscope, the filteration is a lot more present and closer knit than the competing filters... also i happened to find a paper of the sale of the truck from a ford dealer (to my family member who owned the truck before me), and it states a 820s filter to my surprise... i guess that changed in the future a decade+ afterward...

@WhipCityWrencher 11 месяцев назад

@@PoKeKidMPK1 Thanks for the update👍 I'll try to remember that.

@softwaresignals Год назад

There has got to be a more clever, better way to build these WITHOUT using any glue crap at all.

@silverizn1844 5 месяцев назад

What is the best?

@WhipCityWrencher 5 месяцев назад

I like the bigger filter.

@kellybennett2900 Год назад

Very interesting. I am definitely a fan of the upper by pass valve design. But not a huge fan of motorcraft filters. I am suprised to see that neither filter has that goofy string tied around the filter media. Also not near enough threads in the base plate. Motorcraft filters always seemed to be on the cheap design of how a oil filter should be made. Well I recon you get what you pay for, especially these days.

@daewooparts Год назад

The FL400S is more like a big MotorCrap with that shit glue job 💩 ,I seen them missing the threads entirely a while back too ,definitely quality control isn't job 1 at the MotorCrap/Purolator plant ,just look at that glue job ,it shouldn't have made it off the assemblyline & quality control

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Mark I agree

@cskiles318 Год назад

Hi whip full watch 👁️👃👁️

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks, Christina👍

@davidtate166 Год назад

I hope Ford motor craft is watching this video.clean up there sloppy glue job.that just sucks.keep this up going to fram filters.

@riceburner4747 Год назад

I agree on sloppy glue. Not a Ford man here since my dad's 65 Comet Caliente. No more FoMoCo products? It's all Motorcraft? All car mfg'ers use small, because it's cheaper? Less product? 🤔🇺🇸

@patt693 Год назад

Pretty old filters, people must not them very often

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Hi Pat Less than a year old, Not too bad.

@anishchand4420 Год назад

I would use Motorcraft FL400S on Steve's Ford Edge with good quality Engine Oil like Royal Purple. Steve you will be doing Injustice to the bigger oil filter if running on regular oil like Castrol, Valvoline or Mobile 1.

@riceburner4747 Год назад

Nah, it's how more OFTEN you change your oil. As long as it's a "named brand" synthetic oil, its fine. That Amsoil guy is the same way. "Wynns Friction Proofing" additive was the snake oil in MY day.

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

It's a Ford Edge. Use a Warren oil like ST or Amazon etc.

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

@@riceburner4747 Scamsoil with the Mobil1 base stock?

@TheTopGun920 10 месяцев назад

You think purple coloring making Royal Purple more better than other brands? Castrol, Valvoline, and Mobil are all premium oil brands.

@anishchand4420 9 месяцев назад

@@TheTopGun920 it's not Colour Purple that makes Royal Purple better then other brands. Royal Purple is made for Sports Cars and re-built motors. Royal Purple is made for Street and track while Castrol, Valvoline and Mobile 1 are not made for both conditions. Yes Castrol, Valvoline and Mobile 1 do have Racing Oils but they are only for track not street driving.

@haac4825 2 месяца назад

Very upset with the glue. Just not trusting Motorcraft filters anymore.

@TNitroH 7 месяцев назад

Once again folks, anyone thinking about using a different oil folter on their engine do so at your own risk. Ford specifies the bypass valve ratings for each engine and all filters arent rated the same. Example Fl820s 16 psi FL 500s 8psi. One goes in the 4.6 v8 the other is the 5.0 coyote.

@j.t.cooper2963 Год назад

You can't expect 100% perfection on items that are mass produced by the millions.

@Tbjahuwbj 10 месяцев назад

Both bad

@vector150 Год назад

( darn speech to text had to fix my post) I read a write up a guy did claim to be a Honda engineer. He claims the smaller filters are better for turbos

@GT-mn3bx Год назад

I dunno. With a turbo, I'd always want more oil.

@WhipCityWrencher Год назад

Thanks👍