Movie Couple Therapy: SHREK 

I have an idea for a future video. You guys could do Nathan Algren from The Last Samurai.

@@davidmacy411 Apologies for being an uncultured swine but...who?

@@Ditto.007 The Last Samurai is arguably the best acting Tom Cruise ever did, and the story is VERY loosely based on real events. I think it was up for some Oscars. I highly recommend watching it.

@@davidmacy411 Will do then, thx!

What a glorious cult classic! On a separate note, I hope you guys do some deep dives into Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish

They both get people who love them for themsleves orge and human form regardless

It's the spell. Until you find true love's first kiss and take love's true form. Shrek was her true love and he is an Ogre. So when they kiss for the first time she stays in her Ogre form because that's what he is.

well, it obviously is not, how she looked was not an hindrance for him before and he does not like her more as an orge. She is the one being rewarded there with a way to be free and who she really is an wants to be

@Ariane Winter she didn't actually want to be an ogre though. Remember her first comment when the spell kept her an ogre? Shrek was the one to accept her exactly as she was and tell her how he sees her

@@aesinam The only reason she didn't want to be an ogre was because of the stigma against them.

I kind of relate haha. Cause in my first date the dude was incredibly handsome and I was so worried about if I was as pretty as he expected. But things went very well. Haha I guess everyone is insecure at some level.

I'm lucky I have a bf who tells me I'm beautiful even when I'm not at my best at all. They do exist. Don't settle for less.

​@@Charlotte8591 Me too am happy I found someone like him 💕

This and the addams family (the older movies/show)

I NEVER thought about that. It makes so much sense as to why she just accepts shreks life style in 2.

I think it’s a bit of both. Fiona’s dad was the frog prince and she obviously takes after him. that and I truly believe that her parents were visiting her in the tower because when she reunites with them in the sequel, she does not act shocked at all to see them. She is not emotional she is not overwhelmed or teary-eyed. She’s just like hey guys! As if she’s back from college or something. The dad obviously cares for her and he’s kind of a rebel himself so I truly believe he broke rules and brought her food, supplies, etc, to make sure she was OK. And then whenever she turned into an ogre, pretty sure she left the tower at night to hunt and stuff anyway.

@@snowbird1381 oh, shit he was? I though he just got hit with a spell and the shock from literal shapeshifting just destroyed his old man heart

@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat if you watch shrek two, you see the king/queen’s bedroom. It’s dressed with green and lily pads everywhere. And then lily reminisces about them walking down to the lily pond when it was in bloom and Harold says “ our first kiss.” Then at the bar another frog says “do I know you?” Meaning that was the actual girl that was supposed to kiss him but he didn’t want to be with her so he asked the godmother for a favor, so that he could be with Lily. Fairy godmother use that favor as a deal to get her son a spot in the castle. That’s why she threatens to take away Harold’s happily ever after when he refuses to make Fiona fall for Prince Charming.

​@@snowbird1381oh my god you just blew my mind!! I never twigged the joke that the Queen is called Lillian and her husband is a frog 😂 how did I not see that before?!

I thought that was awesome. Because the kissing sleeping (or dead) people was extremely disturbing to me as a child. I kind of assumed the princes were all serial killers or something.

Shaking was a bit hard on her frame though like ow if I was shook like her something would have came out of place

Thats true actually especially when Charming shows up late and tries to do just that

not to mention the comedic timing and interaction. Fiona is playing by the book and is like, "Shouldn't this be a romantic moment?" Shrek is just like, "That's nice, but I'm in a hurry."

Not "right away"? It wasn't really his intention at all when he rescued her.

True, I'm happy that you empathised with your coworker, and that you both recognised that she shouldn't have to put up with such toxic, immature behaviour.

What was the reason? I'm just wondering. It's fine if you can't disclose it.

@@papasscooperiaworker3649 I don't recall specifics, but it had something to do with a garage door I think. She forgot to close it maybe? All I do remember is that it was, truly, a BULLSHIT reason.

@@VidralliaArchives wow, that’s stupid

​@@VidralliaArchives Yeah seems to me he's been wanting to do it for a long time and tried to find any reason to do it. This reminds me of the guy who broke up with his girlfriend cause she was making him ride roller coasters. I don't remember which video it was on but it seemed like she pushed too many buttons. Not saying that your coworkers was doing it to her boyfriend. But it reminded me of that lol

I think that's why she's so upset with Shrek. If Fiona could've saved herself that's setting the bar higher for when Shrek saves her. Or when Shrek starts to act up later in the series, she's disappointed. Because Fiona could find a way to live life all on her own, but she wants to live a life living worth together.

Funny thing is, that is literally what happens in the alternate reality introduced in the 4th movie. Sick of waiting for a true love that never came to rescue her, Fiona just rescued herself and adopted the lifestyle of a rebellious, outspoken ogre woman who fights for what she believes in. It's so brilliant that they clearly thought of that and addressed it in a later installment of the story.

Fiona did saved herself that she becomes the leader of the clan of ogres.

@@gabybladen5803 i also love that they showed what Fiona went thru wasn’t all fairytales. They showed that she developed some form of ptsd from being locked away (needing to sleep with a candlelight because she’s afraid she’ll wake up back there and obviously that built up anger of being stuck there because she wasn’t rescued. They really fleshed out her character so well I love it.

Actually happens in Shrek 4

Well said. Never thought of it that way before!

It’s always an interesting turn of things Shrek cared more about being himself than fitting in but was lonely for it and Fiona felt like she had to fit in and felt isolated because of it. By Fiona letting loose she found people who genuinely cared for her and Shrek learned to let people in and discovered theirs people he cares about. My favorite line of the whole movie was from Donkey “you’re so wrapped up in layers Onion Boy! You’re afraid of your own feelings!”

@@Broomer52 I don't remember that line at all, but it's a good line.

This is such a beautiful comment ❤

I liked the dragon breaking the last window. The dragon's quiet personality gets over looked.

@@bcase5328 I think it's also a quick and final "Screw you" from the animators to Micheal Eisner

Well said!

Ahhh no wonder my boyfriend told me I love you within the first week of us being boyfriend and girlfriend. When we started talking we would drive almost everywhere and we even went to a concert for the first time together in the city. And it was a perfect set up and everything we walked and got food, saw the concert. We had to walk to the train to get home. We made it to our station we see droplets of rain and all of a sudden it was pouring, we had to run to find shelter because we parked a little bit far from the station. We made it to the overpass and saw the sky and the rain falling everywhere as we started to kiss. Then we walked to the steps, sat down, and waited out the rain a little. We were talking for a little and he told me that he loves me. Conveniently the rain stopped and I said let’s go back to the car (and me not being ready to say it back) so we did. It wasn’t necessarily a dangerous situation just us adventuring a lot. We were both just turning into official adult teenagers who didn’t have freedom as minors and did a lot of things for the first time together, like going to a beach at night, seeing a concert, getting ramen, etc etc. just normal teenage things our parents didn’t let us do Oh and don’t worry I made sure when I was ready to say I love you I had the perfect set up and place to say it, I planned out an entire date to the city and we walked around tried new foods and snacks and went to see new things, at the end I surprised him with a view of the entire city. I put my head to his shoulder and we stayed quiet as we looked out in the distance. I told him I love you and he was shocked because I did took a bit of time to say it back. But I had to make sure that it was memorable and almost perfect

@@ssandiaa this is beautiful ty for sharing. You're so lucky to have someone who genuinely love you, by your side 😊

Honestly Shrek and Fiona are probably the first mainstream media couple that's larger (Fiona's true form) and well, happy together and nontoxic. At least the first I can remember off the top my head. I'm sure there's other ones that might be lesser known.

Yeah, though she was suppose to expect Prince Charming, she pretty much just expecting that a human man would rescue her and whomever that was, that would be her prince charming

I'm with Fiona here I like me a thicc man.

And even ~Handsome Shrek~ in the later material has ears that stick out and a stocky build.

@@Uncle_Smidge Yeah, I was actually thinking about that when I originally made this comment! Though I guess I didn't know how to word it lol

I was looking for this comment!

I have been looking for a comment like you. Yes!! I fully agree!!!!

@@Cosplayergirlzz That's so nice of you -- thank you so much!

@@edvinbrattberg8647 Thank you so much! I always love Alan's insights, I was just surprised at his take here.

I always related to that cuz people will say I’m confident cuz I don’t care what people think of me but it’s not the same as confidence when you just think that you’re never gonna impress anyone so why even try. This video was kind of an eye opener for me cuz Shrek did change. When he first took off his helmet after meeting Fiona I think he kinda hoped that maybe he was someone’s true love but her look of disappointment hurt. He misunderstood her look but still. It took their friendship and her genuine interest in his likes and acceptance of his weird habits to see he was worth something to someone.

Good drag

Goes to show it doesn’t hurt to try something new

@@Merlodica very true

peak character development

And tell her about her eyes (classic Bugs Bunny) ...and her breath has a hint of minty freshness (does Bugs one better) ?

Which is kinda sad, that she falls for the first person to treat her nice. Just to save himself I might add. But it seems to have worked out at the end

@@Undomaranel I’m sorry but not to be mean the projecting needs to stop this was such a reach your arm is probably out of its socket SA ? I’m sorry did we watch the same movie ? It sounds like you need serious therapy to work through your own trauma because your projecting it onto a kids movie of a fake mythical dragon who doesn’t have the same sense or emotions as a human the compassion makes zero sense and not the movie at all I hope you heal eventually ❤

@@Undomaranel You're probably really young, so I'm just gonna say this: Trauma dumping about your SA experience to complete strangers on the internet where that was NEVER the subject of discussion, is not cool. Also, media with problematic themes does not desensitize, nor moralize those themes for anybody. This is a "violent video games makes school shooters" argument which has been proven false over and over again. If you lack the critical thinking skills to dissect a piece of media to find the meaning/story, or are unable to rationalize that what happens in fiction does not always align with one's own moral compass, you need to seek therapy. Authors and media creators who make stories about rapists, pedophiles, incestuous relationships, etc 99.9% of the time do NOT condone those actions in the real world. Fiction is meant to be a safe place to express your thoughts/feelings, be a tool to overcome trauma, and be the playground for taboo, macabre, and downright sinful.

@@Undomaranel uh no, that's not what happened

Once, I just needed to watch something stupid. This film came to mind. Masterpiece? No. Intelligent? Sorry, it isn't. Something to make you laugh just for the heck of it, and not to force a laugh like 'comedies' do? HECK YEAH!

@@coralmaynard4876 But that’s why is genius…the comedy is fire and doesn’t make you laugh for the hell of it with cheap humor. It’s smarter than you think.

@@jenniferhiemstra5228 Well, as I said, when I wanted to watch something stupid, this film came to mind, and it was perfect for it, so... I mean, I guess you can say it's clever BECAUSE it's stupid, but that still means it's stupid XD

It's probably because they didn't have pressure to make it live up to typical Disney standards and they could do what they wanted more that it turned out so awesome. (And this movie is not stupid. There are loads of layers to everything in this movie which make it deeper and cleverer than it first appears. Like an onion. lol)

@@coralmaynard4876 It isn't stupid though. There's a ton of hidden intelligence from the subversion of the typical musical structure, to the jabs at Disney, to a the fact that it actually shows you to be yourself through characters with a lot of flaws and actual societal stigma against them as opposed to telling you but showing attractive people who have one offbeat quirk.

yes. I get exactly the vibe.

I just loved the wink-wink in Farquad's name. For young kids, he has a fantasy-land sounding name. For adults and older kids, we KNOW what they meant from the start. - He was such a Farquad.

@@MonkeyJedi99 As an adult, i STILL don't get what they meant by it.

@@heintz256 I think it's f*ckwad

@@heintz256 His name sounds like F*ckwad

@@heintz256 Fu** Wad.

It's great that Shrek is not just a movie to make fun of Disney, but legitimately good movies

@@ShockingPikachu Agreed yet they stilll have their fun child like elements like donkey ahem sorry i meant *DONKÉ*

Exactly

@Shocking Pikachu exactly my thoughts! I think why movies like Shrek and Deadpool work so well that even though they openly mock other movie tropes, they still create their own footing in what makes their films unique.

@@Ditto.007 *DONKAY* ! 😂😂😂

I was a little annoyed they couldn’t see the depth of writing for Shrek as a character.

Right? I'm pretty surprised they said he didn't have much of an arc and that he was okay with his flaws and how people saw them. There were whole scenes that showed how hurt he actually was by them and how he puts up with it bc he believed what they'd say. Really surprised they did not notice that 😕

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Whaa? Out of spite for Mike? What's the story?

​@@carmarniah9360 they got fired

Whoa whoa whoa. It wasn't the writers who had Disney issues, it was Jeff Katzenberg, whom Eisner passed over when Frank Wells tragically passed in an accident. Katzenberg decamped into SKG with Spielberg and Geffen, and produced this. As far as I know, Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio have no beef with Disney.

I heard this other theory that animators were banished to make the movie Shrek. It was even called "Get Shreked ." It was supposed to serve as punishment to them. Try looking into it.

@@theconstellationofboredom8635 just because it was considered a punishment doesn't mean that the team didn't try. I'm also well aware of this lol

As did Shrek 4 Shrek 3 aged like spoiled milk

@@rynemcgriffin1752 “There is no Shrek the Third in Ba Sing Se”

@@Victoura56 “There is no Shrek the Third in Ba Sing Se”

“There is no Shrek the Third in Ba Sing Se”

There is no Shrek the Third in Ba Sing Se. …Or anywhere else.

I watch Shrek 2 once in a while when I have some alone time to look after myself. And I ALWAYS cry at the end when they both turn back to their old forms, by their own choice, because they have such a strong and loving relationship and it no longer matters to them how others may judge. In a way, they both make sacrifices for each other and conquered challenges along the way, and that strengthens their bond and made them a better team. Relationships are often uneven, but when both partners show the same level of love and care for each other, it will be easy to overcome differences and inconveniences that life throws at you.

I think the video straight up said it was happening, be hyped :)

The beginning of the video said that they're also doing one on their marriage. So that'll probably talk about 2 and 3 (maybe 4?)

Honestly, I'd love a bit of coverage on 4 and it's lesson on how true love is earned, not automatic. Edit: Going off memory, though, not sure how much of the movie besides them meeting again and the climax actually covers that on second thought.

I noticed this recently while rewatching the first two movies. In the second one especially, they just hammer home all the expectations that were branded into her, and all the JUDGEMENT, especially from her own FATHER. We see it in her diary, where he simply cannot move past what the curse turns his baby girl into. Lilian eventually softened and just wanted her daughter back, but Harold was so brazenly blatant until the end of the movie. The awful mental impact that must've made on a teenage girl, a teenage princess.

Harold probably has bigger problem with the transformation since he is the Frog Prince, he knows how hard it is to be stuck in a clasically hideous form, so his trauma makes him try everything to save her, and he goes to true love, the thing that saved him

@@eyes_espresso4803 Well I’m sure that Queen Lillian looked past the fact that Shrek is an Ogre, because she married someone who use to be (and reverted back to being) a frog. Perhaps Harold was indoctrinating her child to think hideousness is a negative trait and that being physically attractive is more important (because he agreed with Fairy Godmother to have an arranged marriage for their two children); but Lillian wants Fiona to remember that appearances and personalities don’t always match, and she should look inside her heart to accept destiny in finding the right person to fall in love with. If anything, Fiona learns as much from her mother as she does from her father; as evident by Fiona introducing Shrek followed by the Dinner Scene, that Lillian looked on the bright side of the outcome and not let it bother her so much, where as Harold is blaming Shrek over an arranged marriage that will never happen.

I was gonna say. The boys rightly criticize the film from the angle of "guy falls in love with woman for her character, is rewarded with the woman becoming beautiful". But I feel they missed how genuinely transgressive (at the time) the film's ending felt, for letting Fiona stay an ogre, and saying she was beautiful that way. That she was still beautiful, that she always had been beautiful.

Me, too

@@tbotalpha8133 Very progressive both for the time and now even. Usually some of the 2000s movies have some stuff that didn't age good but that for sure did.

In my experience as a heavy woman. You would be surprised how many dudes are into that.

@@taynahibanez9952 and the guys who are into that are VERY into that.

Was about to say! Kudos to him ❤️

As someone who has had that happen, I agree 💯

I totally agree that consent is hot, but I don't think that's even relevant here. He's a guy alone in a (supposedly) defenseless woman's room and the idea of anything inappropriate doesn't even cross his mind. He's just some person doing their "job," he doesn't see her as a sexual object whatsoever. Like CinemaTherapy point out, the entire movie Shrek is just Shrek doing Shrek's thing.

#ConsentIsSexy

the bar is so low

You can definitely have both. You could both sing a song about how much you love your partner to the world (if that’s what they want) while also loving the little moments and the connection

I love your comment.

Thank you. My mom always tried to be supportive of me, but she was so harsh and cruel to herself, and I don't think she understood how much of that spilled over to me -- especially when I was younger.

Wow, I've never thought of it like that. I am very self-critical and really hard on myself when I make a mistake. It never occurred to me that criticizing myself could reflect onto someone else. Thank you for the comment because I have learned a very good lesson today.

Oh man, same! It took a long time to see that extra dimension in my mom, that I see her put herself down and constantly people please, and I picked up on that.

Wow... i never thought about it like that.

That’s not realistic though.

@@Darkloid21 Correct, its not.

It is realistic, I have a relationship like that. It makes both of us better people and I hope that you too will find it. Even if not with a lover, with a friend or someone else ❤️

@El Llama exactly 😊 you love them in spite of the hard parts, and because you can bond over a vulnerability ❤

I would say having deep troubling personal issues is a sign you're not ready for a relationship. You gotta get your own problems wrangled before you can handle someone else's. But once you're stable and ready for a relationship, having things in common is always a great start!

Agreed. He goes from lone wolf (get out of my swamp) to accepting and wanting companionship :)

Exactly

But it’s a movie so it’s written to pan out that way. Real life isn’t like that.

@@Darkloid21 And your point is?

@@farrex0 the point is there is no lesson to learn here, it’s not real and not rooted in life. It’s just a story written to end a certain way because that message sells better

love how you spell his name xD

@@noxlotl_ the last one caught my attention, and your comment made me reread it again 😂😂😂

@@noxlotl_ I missed that after reading it twice lol

It’s the fact that you misspelled his name 3 times and I didn’t notice 😭

Because he likes the sheer power of being a large scarry man that can throw a fully armored man across a field.

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Barely legal?? Where does it say that?? I thought Fiona was in her mid/late twenties

@@jumutudor4095 "far all he knew"= in shrek's perspective once arriving, this princess that is sleeping *could've* been a minor

@jumutudor4095 given that the standard, especially with Disney, is teenaged princesses with Tiana oldest at 18 and Snow White at 14. So he doesn't know her age and probably assumed she might be under 18 and did not want to go down that route. Now, after he rescues her and they get to know her, it's obvious that she's in her middle 20s.

@jumutudor4095 I looked it up, and the answer seems to be found in the Shrek Musical. Both of them met briefly when they were 7, 23 years have passed when the movie starts. And yes, in those years, Fiona was locked in her tower. Which is just horrible parenting if you ask me.

I believe Shrek didn't kiss Fiona in the tower because it never crossed his mind. He was there to do a job to get his land back. The falling in love came afterwards.

@Saphira703 I can totally picture one of them, popping up at the worst moment to interrupt an almost-kiss between their buddy and his wife. (2/14/2023)

Shoot, couldn't get the titles to work, here

Love it! THank you so much!

@@CinemaTherapyShow But you should also know about how bad BetterHelp can be... It really isn't a sustainable model for the practitioners.

XD headcanon acquired Edit: wrong word l Edit 2: *wrong word LOL

Whaaat I think you might be right! But it's so weird and surprising to me xD

I think he's embarrassed of his name so he stalls. He doesn't really want to say it. It's just another thing about him that people don't like. Every person he tells his name too is grossed out by his name except for Fionna. Fionna's reaction is supposed to be your first hint about her being more than just a cookie cutter princess.

The way I interpreted it is that no one ever asks him his name they just run away in fear or disgust so he’s surprised that someone even cares to ask him so it takes him a moment to get over the initial shock

I'm certain that Puss or Goldi's arcs in this film are worthy of analysis from therapists.

@@leirbag1595 and Puss' anxiety Attack and his arc/growth of going from arrogant to humble

Agree but I believe puss in boots 1 should be reviewed first or I’ll be hard to understand puss and kitty soft paws relationship on how he opened up to her (then the movie talks about his struggles growing up and relationship with humors dumpy)then in the 2nd movie abandoned her then opens up to her again

I'm still not over him being called "puss in boots" in english. I'm from germany and here he was called "der gestiefelte Kater" which badly translates to "booted male cat" (boots as an adjective but that doesn't really work in english). Like why do you call him puss in boots in english? wth guys

@@erdbar718 I guess because "pussy in boots" isn't exactly good for the viewer-expectations? 😁 (What is the name of the cat in German dubbing, btw? I never watched those in German so I'm curious. Just "Kater"?)

I find it even funnier how Jonathan didn't even doubt he would eat a live rat-

I actually wanna try rat meat

Same!!!!

I mean, the second movie was even better IMO. And the quicker we get to The Last Wish, the better.

I really hoped Shrek was just a trilogy and Shrek the 3rd was some ugly fever dream.

@@mackielunkey2205 Shrek 1 is a perfect story. Shrek 2 is a perfect sequel.

That's a perfect motto and a beautifully-worded way to put it! It's a much better way to look at dating than the old "if they can't handle me at my worst, they don't deserve my best", which I can't help but feel has been a bit bastardized to excuse terrible behaviour, rather than just the simple "take me as I am". I hope you don't mind but I'm going to yoink this to add to my own personal affirmations, it's wonderful :)

@@sugarbaby1974 If it works, then by all means. For my part, I'll be doing my best this year to put this theory to the test. It will be interesting to see the results.

(1) im gonna comment just so I can come back cuz this is straight up very honest solid wisdom & (2) literally Every single person/ancestor before you got laid and there’s 7 BILLION people out there, your odds are good that at least ONE out there will like your goofy ass ∠( ᐛ _/¯ ∠)＿ ✨ But yeah opening yourself up to the world & being yourself can help you find people you resonate with I think

@@nileslopez7385 True, but with the caveat that the ease of finding a partner depends strongly on the shared "core values" you're looking for. After all, how many other people in the movie did you see inflating frogs and eating cobwebs? Using myself as an example, I've narrowed my search down to 10 core values which I consider "non-negotiable" to a healthy relationship, and some of them are quite unusual. Having looked up what statistics I could on most of them, I estimate there are 0.65 individuals on earth that meet these criteria. However, having said that, I also consider the potential value of that relationship well worth the effort in spite of the high odds of failure, so I will proceed with my plans to that end. "A needle in a haystack" doesn't even begin to describe the difficulty of the task, but unusual problems require unusual solutions; potentially as unusual as the person seeking or being sought, which is another reason to "be yourself" and make your "you-ness" as visible as possible, and while unusual people are harder to find, by definition, their unusualness also makes them proportionally more conspicuous, if they are allowed and allow themselves to be.

It works! Can confirm ❤️

There's this theory that Papa Bear in the Last Wish was the baby bear in Shrek 1. With that, he started his own family, adopted Goldilocks and soon became this crime family.

I'd love a princess Bride one mostly because I love anything that has to do with The princess Bride

A LOT of people are recommending this movie so I hooopee they will do it 🤞

Maybe they're working up through the series and will get to it~ will enjoy each episode as they go 😄

Gotta rewatch Cloudy with a chance of meatballs

Absolutely adorable I loved it 😁

I love that movie! It's so under-rated

Inner beauty isn’t from the physical attractiveness, it’s from seeing the person for who he/she is, and Flint accepted Sam for being a nerd because he’s one too.

I always found ogre Fiona to be the prettier version.

Inner beauty? She's just breathtakingly beautiful for an ogre. Compare to a chimp girl turning into a Hollywood beauty at night. She'd be dead ugly then to her chimp family and friends. And then she turns into the Hollywood beauty all day long when she kisses her human love.

@@Takisan111 her eyes and lips seem a lot more prettier for sure

Cool idea, but which version are we talking about?

@@iLikeTheWordRetro I’ve only ever seen the 2013 version. It’s currently free on RU-vid. Tho I don’t care which version they decide to react to. It’s an overall compelling story. And I’ve heard the 1974 version was good, too.

I hated the Great Gatsby (book and film). I don't need more stories of narcissistic wealthy white people being terrible to each other.

Damn that’s deep!

22 years?!?!?!?!!?!

@@tessaluce9296 omg wut I’m 20 and ….. 😢I feel old what the heck 22years old?!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh 😭

@@W3ND3Y ahhhhhh 😭

I can remember I saw this in theatres when it came out. I was three, but still knew it was different to any movie that came before.

@@9u1n When I was a kid I would ALWAYS ask to watch this movie, or the sequel to it every time I was at my Grammy’s house because she had it and I didn’t. Now I have the movie memorized by ❤️

I love that you loved it

Agreed! Donkey is the type of character who pushes Shrek out of his comfort zone, but he doesn't cross Shrek's boundaries, which can be such a difficult line to distinguish.

I also like that the musical gives him more backstory, like with his parents casting him out into the world at a young age and brainwashing him into thinking he’ll always not “be the hero” because that’s how the world will look at him.

wym he's always had an arc even in the movie it was him learning that he's not unlovable and doesn't have to be a solitary "monster"

Yes, I love Psychology! Cinema therapy does a great job of breaking things down

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching! :)

I'm here to serve 😁

@@JonathanDecker Well I'll be damned. The man himself. Keep up the stellar work, Jonathan. It's very reassuring when I see your guys' videos and be reaffirmed by them. I recommend this channel to my coworkers all the time.

Thank you so much! My original reply doesn't really match your comment because it was meant for somebody else's comment. I meant to comment on yours how profound your thoughts were to me 🙂

@@JonathanDecker You are most welcome. Truly. I apologize for the late reply, I work night shifts in youth support foster care. I sleep during the day. So don't worry, these videos are being put to good use and are suggested often.

I'd love an episode about them!