MP40 Vs PPSH-41 This video was made strictly for fun. Both of these are great and very fun to shoot. Thanks for watching. #mp40 #ppsh #ppsh41 #codwarzone #warzone #cod #codmobile #collection #military
Its funny how people are choosing their gun based on stoping power & fire rate, as if any of these two guns wouldn’t send you 6 feet under before you can blink once. One well placed bullet is all it takes. Remember kids; real life isn’t call of duty.
Both are great but I'd take the PPSH-41. More powerful caliber, more robust and super simple. Also a more comfortable stock. Fun fact: Germany actually attempted to copy the PPSH because troops liked it so much
For penetration is PPSH-41, but 9mm have HP, JHP(ammo that makes bigger wound than FMJ without kevlar or any other body armor). I think that MP-40 is compact, FA controlable and lighter. PPSH-41 have high rate of fire and it is chambered in 7,62×25(good for penetration), i think it is more accurate that MP-40(becouse of wobly overlapping stock on MP-40).
ppsh is heavier, some has low quality reputation but the ammo and fire rate packs a punch. Even the drum mag is heavy, ppsh is heavy in general. Mp40 lighter, more accurate but less damage less weight. If I have low ammo and enemy are far away, i use mp40, if u wanna sweep the floor, use ppsh. For me I want ppsh41 with 71 drum mag becuz I'm not sweeping or sniping, I'm having fun but ill also be happy to get mp40 and see how it goes
@@yenle7296 PPSh-41 is more accrute than MP40 due to longer barrel, higher muzzle speed and small compensator. Morevoer, 7,62×25 round is more powerful than 9×19 on most distances, as its higher velocity overshadows less mass of the bullet. I have TT and CZ-75. TT's stopping power is noticably higher.
I’ve fired both and while the MP-40 is one of the smoothest firing guns I’ve shot, it doesn’t have the punch or the rate of fore that the ppsh-41 has. German soldiers used them frequently because of their reliability and rate of fire. They were even rechambered to fire 9mm by the Germans.
Rate of fire is a two-edged sword. Yes, handy in certain situations BUT, not only does it typically result in reduced accuracy, it also increases ammo consumption.
@@thomass1891 No. I'm trying to point out that high cyclic rate is cool bananas until you're standing there with your dick hanging out, and no frinkin' ammo.
@@haroldgodwinson832 Accuracy doesn't matter in the scenarios these weapons were built for. They were not made for precise single shots over long distances. They were made to quickly cover an area in close combat.
No matter how many times I see an MP40 fire, it always surprises me how manageable it is. I would rather have the PPSH, it's ammo is truly fascinating to me. I own a TTC pistol and it's the most accurate handgun I own. 7.62x25 is capable of approaching 5.56mm carbine terminal effectiveness when fired out of a barrel of at least 16".
Not a lot of people talk about how the MP38 was originally a vehicle crew weapon, it's kinda lame for a reason, it shoots slower; saves ammo, has a folding stock with no cheekweld; compact, this is a great gun for vehicle crews, but Germany definitely could've used a better submachine gun for their infantry. Something for example like the MP28 or MP34 which both could use a bayonet, had fixed stocks and had a faster rpm than the MP40.
All soldiers like foreign weapons. Except maybe Japanese weapons, I think they racistly thought they were inferior weapons, the same way we see Chinese weapons today, cheap copycat weapons.
@@martin018esp6 That's right. The PPSh was the main weapon in the SA, while in the Wehrmacht it was the Kar 98. The MP was relatively few in number compared to the PPSh.
I am German and I am a Patriot. But I heard that German Eastfront Veterans prefered the PPSH-41. Its still a great and reliable weapon tho and when it comes to MGs and Tanks I would always choose the german ones but in this particularly case I tend to the Russian Sub Machine Gun, at least in Close Combat.
I think that drum mags are not that bad but they are heavy and it takes time to load it. Also, gun can jam more often then with regular box magazine(35 if I remember). They used drums becouse high rate of fire, so gun will easily eat all ammo!
Just like when R Lee Ermy compared the Thompson to the MP40... it really comes down to the shooter. Both have their advantages in different areas. MP40's slower rate of fire makes it more accurate. The PPSH's rate of fire makes it more powerful.
The movie "Stalingrad" a German movie, a German officer tell his soldiers if they find any ppsh 41 take them because they are better than their mp 40. In this test, despite two guns are being shot by the same shooter, it is not the way to test the accuracy and the penetration power. Guns needs to be fixated on a clamp or something like that. The way he keeps the ppsh is not the same as he keeps the mp. His left hand on mp stands on the magazine, on the ppsh stands very close to the right hand which makes the control harder, So not a true test. My opinion, ppsh wins in every kind of competition vs mp.
Awesome video. Not trying to be a armchair quarterback or anything but I did notice you flinch right before each trigger pull. Maybe you are not used to these beautiful antiques but this is extremely common and even seasoned shooters don't realize they do it. Interesting that your flinch tends to send your rounds only up based on the pattern and spread of the two guns. You can probably just compensate for it but a better way would be to train yourself to correct it. One way to do that is to load a magazine with a random amount of live and dummy rounds and when firing it take your time with each trigger pull. Focus on your movement and take it as slow as you possibly can. You'll notice the flinch when you pull the trigger on a dummy round. The idea is to stop that and to keep pulling the trigger slowly until you no longer do it on a dummy or live round.
My two favourite ww2 smgs and a really good comparison shoot. Unfortunately I have deactivated models only as we are not so lucky in the UK with our constitution as the USA and other countries. Police, armed forces and criminals can have live automatic weapons, not responsible adult enthusiasts. Really good to see how my guns would've fired. Many thanks for this. PS, although a collector of fallschirmjager items, the ppsh41 features on my mannequin as it was a more reliable and hardier combat weapon
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У нас тоже сложно с оружием для гражданского применения, Автоматическое оружие под запретом, ограничения в емкости магазинов и прочее...Полагаю, у американских граждан нашего оружия на руках больше, чем у самих граждан России)
I've owned and fired both of these weapons. But my favourite is the PPSH. It would empty out a drum magazine without a single stoppage, but such a high rate of fire you could find yourself out of gas at that critical moment!
German units usually only had the platoon leader carry an MP-40, while his men carried rifles or the light machine gun. Soviet units had far more soldiers armed with PPSH-41s because these could be produced quicker and more efficiently than rifles. The large ammo drums used onthe PPSH-41 weren't very practicable though. Each drum took longer to reload and it was difficult to carry spare drums on you. I believe they also issued PPSH-41s with 30 round magazines later on for that reason. And of course the PPS-43 which followed was produced in even larger numbers and looks more 'svelte' as in a 'Russian MP-40.'
Schmeisser versus Shpagin! Let's go!! By the way, I know that Hugo Schmeisser didn't invent the MP-40. It was developed by Heinrich Vollmer and Berthold Geipel. Schmeisser just owned a factory that made them. Even the MP-40 magazines bare his name as he had a patent for the straight magazine design.
the ppsh spews out bullets at a much faster rate - about double the mp40 - which is a slight drawback because in a firefight you could quickly burn through a lot of ammo, but in urban and close quarters combat where a split second can determine life or death it has an edge over the mp40 which is probably why many German soldiers preferred it.
I’ve heard that this is a myth created by Stalingrad. The soviets used the ppsh and its fire rate very well there, and the german troops realized they needed to swap their Mauser rifles with smgs to match the soviets there. But German logistics plus smgs being concentrated in the German officers meant that German troops had to use captured Ppshs to get their needed smgs.
Оба хороши...немцы любили ППШ 41 за скорострельность и вместительность магазина...наши любили МП 40 за небольшой вес и удобность...все это в себе объединил ППШ 43...тогда немцы пошли дальше и создали МП 44...наш не отставали, и все хорошие идеи ВМВ воплотили в АК 47...
Very nice ...from what I've heard and what you showed . ..PPSH 41 is what I would choose. I'm curious if it has dirt jamming issues like the Mp40 . Thanks for the video
Both have advantages and disadvantages. But the production of PPSh took significantly less labor costs, it was cheaper. And the Soviet army has much more of these submachine guns, than Germans have MP-40, 38. The PPSh is not the only submachine gun in the Soviet (Red) Army. There was also a SudAev submachine gun. It is better to write in English PPSh. Sh is the initial sound in the surname of the designer ShpAgin. In the Russian language there is a separate letter "Ш". In English, you have to use two letters "Sh".
После отстрела надо отсоединять магазин,и только потом передёрнуть затвор,произвести контрольный спуск-и поставить потом на предохранитель.А вы всё заглядываете через выбрасыватель,а если темно на улице-так же будете делать.
Принцип открытого затвора позволяет проверять наличие патрона в патроннике без снятия магазина.. ( в этом и были плюсы и соответственно минусы системы Шпагина)
У меня прадед с такой пушкой до Кёнигсберга дошёл, эх отличный аппарат Эхо войны всё же, Мечтаю так же вдоволь и от души пострелять из культового немецкого пистолета пулемёта мп 38-40, такая вещь в хозяйстве пригодиться спасибо за интересное видио
The PPS-43 is sort of like a hybrid between the MP40 and PPSH. Its all metal construction and folding stock have the features of the Mp40. Its ammo, handguard, and magazine takes that of the PPSH. Honestly the PPS is my favorite SMG of the war. But between these two id take the MP40
I'd have thought the German gun with its folding stock would be superior in suburban room to room combat situations. Lighter, shorter, thus more wieldy. 🙂
My Opa was in the 8th Panzer Division 43rd Abt Panzerjager. In the 70s I had a book on military small arms. I showed Opa the MP40 and asked him if he carried it. He said no and took the book and flipped through the pages and showed me a Ppsh and pointed at it. Here that’s it. I asked why he carried that one he said. “Because it worked” Then 5 years ago I bought a book about the 8th Panzer Division and in the book was a mannequin dressed in a Panzerjager uniform carrying a Ppsh… I found that interesting
This specific MP40 was shooting high left and the PPSH shot a bit high but both are still pretty accurate. Recoil is almost not there with the MP40, the PPSH has a bit more because of the fire rate but is still very controllable.
For me, the PPSH41 because it’s basically the FN Minimi of SMGs. A small caliber cartridge combined with a very high RPM and with the cool drum magazines of course.
I’ve shot both. Three malfunctions with the PPSh 41 none with the MP-40. MP-40 extremely controllable the PPSh 41 not bad but not as good. I’ll take the MP-40.
I used to have an MP40 and now have 2 PPSH41s. For the fun factor the PPSH41 wins but not for ergonomics where the better one is the MP40. The ergo on a PPSH41 with a drum is terrible not to mention the problem of not having a pistol grip. The PPSH41 has the upper hand on the power of the round, solid construction, reliability and that it is auto and semi fire. The MP40 wins on ergonomics, magazine changing and handling. Just note that the Russians then made the PPS43 with a stick magazine a mag well like and a folding stock like an MP 40, what does that tell us? In the choice of only these two, I guess I would take the PPSH41 with the stick mags. If the PPS43 has a selector switch in my opinion it would be the best subgun of WW2 with the best features of both the PPSH41 and MP40 less the selector switch. Also the PPSH41 is only an inch shorter than an AK47. In a modern SHTF situation where I needed a subgun I would take the Vz26.
The DUX-53 and DUX-59 were submachine guns developed at the Oviedo Arsenal in Spain. They were based directly on the design of the Finnish 9 mm Model 44 submachine gun, which in turn was based on the Soviet PPS-43. Фирмы Аншутц и Маузер жо 1980 года копировали советский пистолет пулемет. тут даже не надо спорить. ППС - лучший в мире.
MP40. Lighter and more compact, especially with the folding stock. As a soldier you’d spend waaaaaaaaay more time lugging the damn things around than shooting them so as long as the weapon is reliable and able to get the job done I’d go with weight and ergonomics every day of the week. Plus you’d need a second man with a wheelbarrow to carry all the ammunition for the PPSH. 😛
@@VrilWaffen "Between 1939 and 1941, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were Allied." And I'm talking about the guns, not the forces. Clearly your name is false.
