MPC Live vs MPC 60ii // Can you hear the difference??

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I've always wondered how the MPC Live VS MPC60 would go when it comes to getting that lofi crunchy sound. I sampled directly into the MPC and created the same pattern on both machines. I set the MPC Swing to 60%. Then took a chord from Splice and pitched it up one octave to stretch the sample back down on the MPC to get some Aliasing samples. The first part is a blind listening test then the rest is a direct comparison. How did you do? Could you tell the difference?
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00:00 Intro
00:42 illa J
01:01 the setup
02:27 Sponsor Skillshare
03:55 Test 1
04:46 Test 2
06:05 Comparing the samples
09:55 Conclusion
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@LuminorBeats 3 года назад

illa j lend you his mpc and you didn't even mentioned it on the title as a clickbait. u r a real one enrique.

@alchemistrpm82 Год назад

Fr. Btw I borrowed this from Illa J, nbd.

@softeyez6700 3 года назад

yo WHAT?!?! Illa J letting you borrow his mpc... holy...

@AndrewRchp 3 года назад

I was fucking surprised as well

@soularslaps 3 года назад

SAMMEEE

@kingvintage2227 3 года назад

@@soularslaps he didnt even mention j dilla ...j dilla arguably the greatest hiphop producers of all time

@skunklungz 3 года назад

duane plummer a song by illa j that my friend showed me, he talks about how he doesnt rlly wanna just be known as j dillas little brother he wants to be his own thing although it is crazy that he didnt bring up j dilla in this video while using his brother's mpc😂

@kingvintage2227 3 года назад

Yea but the mpc 3000 is just notorious with dilla using it .. he literally made star dust with dat 💩 literally.. gotta mention dilla to carry the torch my man ( if you understand how important that is ) but that’s another thing .. engineers dream what dilla did using the mpc 3000

@niklassilen4313 3 года назад

Pro tip: you can simulate the "overdriven" MPC60 in the MPC Live by purposefully raising the volume before the MPC60 effects plugin. So say you set the MPC60 effect in slot 2, then in slot 1 you have for instance the AIR EQ or something, use that effects main output volume and set it at +12dB.. then in slot 3 you add another AIR EQ and set it's gain to -12dB. Now you've overdriven the mpc60 effect and it will definitely sound different to your "overdriven" test 2. This is a more like for like comparison if you are interested in the emulation of the MPC60, instead of overdriving the inputs or outputs of the MPC Live. Pro tip2: it's also fun to "under drive" the mpc60 effect.. send it a really weak signal, like -24dB down.. then compensate in slot 3. This brings a different tonality.

@oracle-0018 3 года назад

Thanks for this comment! I will try this.

@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 3 года назад

@@oracle-0018 you wont come close to the 60 regardless

@oracle-0018 3 года назад

@@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 Much closer ! You are wrong-beware the power of the mpc live!

@snubdawg1386 3 года назад

please make a video about this....or i will

@niklassilen4313 3 года назад

@@snubdawg1386 Go for it! I haven't made youtube videos in a decade. :)

@MChristian 3 года назад

For me in both initial performances I like the 60 better. The overall tone is warmer, but I also get more details from the open hi-hats, more prolonged ringing. From the Live each instrument is more separate, with space around them, but the melodic sample is very receded. In the 60 everything is closer together and closer to my ear but the sample is very present.

@fanusamurai 3 года назад

The MPC 60 can even actually brighten the sound (if you sample the sound in pitched by an octave at the source and then pitch it down the same amount in the MPC, it actually nicely invigorates the sound!) I think the power of the device just like with all old Akais comes from running the input stage reasonably loud: sounds so good with drums.

@Lurkartiist 2 года назад

I guessed them all right . the 60 has a certain "lofi-ness" to it that can't be faked. I want my first mpc just can't figure if I should go new or old, I love the sound of both

@aldenmedina 3 года назад

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@uhman5001 3 года назад

In Spanish: Presente yo saturo tú saturas él, ella, Ud. satura nosotros saturamos vosotros saturáis ellos, ellas, Uds. saturan vos saturás - imperfecto saturaba saturabas saturaba saturábamos saturabais saturaban saturabas - pretérito saturé saturaste saturó saturamos saturasteis saturaron saturaste - futuro saturaré saturarás saturará saturaremos saturaréis saturarán saturarás - condicional saturaría saturarías saturaría saturaríamos saturaríais saturarían saturarías - And i didn't copy the "Formas compuestas comunes" , "Subjuntivo", "Tiempos compuestos del subjuntivo ", "Imperativo " and "Indicativo" part... Oh spanish... I love it.

@RickyTinez 3 года назад

i think this is my new favorite comment haha! Thanks Alden!!

@felixbaileymurray 3 года назад

I super appreciate the fact that you were able to talk about something you used Skillshare for/liked about it, rather than just rattle off a description of what it is - I think it shows proper integrity. I've seen Skillshare promos a thousand times, but yours made me want to go check it out - particularly that typography course! Dope comparison too, the MPC 60ii kills it imo, especially on the overdriven samples. Peace!

@lundsweden 3 года назад

I really like Ricky's attitude, very chill but the best bit is the open mindedness, like the when he says inthis video, why not run a $4,000 synth into a $100 sampler?! Why not indeed! Actually I've ordered a P.O 33, because its really well designed, sounds rough and gritty (its 8 bit). It seems we live in an age of digital perfection, yet we seek imperfection. It reminds me of how something like handmade pottery is beautiful, in part due to its imperfections. The P.O 33 is a real winner, everyone should get one. Lots of fun, chic design and plenty of warm, digital dirt!

@audiolego 2 года назад

I met Ricky in Los Angeles at a Synth showcase in 2019 and he is a cool dude.

@MrScrooge1980 2 года назад

This is the best comparison on RU-vid💯💯💯

@gabyj71 3 года назад

I pass the test and I can't wait for your upcoming MPC3000 comparison. You motivated me to repair my MPC3K display when I saw your other video back in April about "Think i found the best studio setup.. For me! // 2020 Music Studio Workflow" A week after I saw that video I was able to repair the MPC3000 from an iPhone 6 plus back-light display and a step up inverter board. Upgraded the ROM's to 3.5 and boy I'm glad to have this baby up and running. Seriously, all because of you and feeling the same way with good analog gear. Good job Ricky. I'm enjoying your videos a lot. Thank you

@cheesefiend123 3 года назад

wow i was not expecting to be able to pick out the mpc60 so easily in the blind test.

@dracul74 3 года назад

The mpc60 sound is beautiful. That said, with the live you have flexibility that you can emulate that sound on the unit (or later in your daw) or go with a million other coloration type sounds. No right or wrong. I will say that I almost always run my Mpc live through analog gear at some point for a little mojo.

@matthiasquasthoff5639 3 года назад

Love your videos and style, informative and very enjoyable. Sad to have missed saying hi when you were in London last year

@System.10 3 года назад

Such an awesome video, really enjoyed watching this! I'm amazed by how the MPC 60 sounds.

@darumabeats 3 года назад

This video was so helpful man, i never had an mpc or listened to one live, and u showed why some ppl prefer one besides the other. Good content

@AveMcree 3 года назад

the real question is why the MPC Live look like the AKAI Tomcat

@DaveyReynolds 3 года назад

for real, I bet they’d sell more of them if they looked like their classic samplers

@AveMcree 3 года назад

@@DaveyReynolds I'm surprise there no classic gray or blue 2000xl version... That would be sexy on the MPC Live ii

@_thevaporz 3 года назад

Looks like one of the mpcstuff.com skins. They make a 2000XL classic skin too.

@awesomeduder 3 года назад

here pressing F to pay Tomcat respect

@RickyTinez 3 года назад

This comment still gets me 😂

@jackpijjin4088 3 года назад

The 60 definitely has a more 'bottom-middle'-focused sound, while the Live has a lot more 'high' in the mix, especially noticeable with the driven samples. Both sound great, though. I'm positive with more EQing the 'high' could be tamed from the Live and give it the 'warmer mellow sound' of the 60. Kind of surprised they didn't account for that in their emulation/filter, but of course old equipment ages differently from unit to unit, so sound will vary.

@RickyTinez 3 года назад

If im not mistaken (which i often am) the 60ii applies a filter to reduce some high freq noise. Maybe this is similar to the sp1200 trying to filter out aliasing.. hmm

@ScooterJackson 3 года назад

I definitely hear a more mids focused sound from the 60ii as well. Like a gentle high shelf + a very slight compression. The live is SOOOO close though.

@doppelganger8659 3 года назад

That’s cool and all. The real problem is the lost low end on the live. You can eq and filter frequencies away. Adding ones that aren’t there is another story.

@jackpijjin4088 3 года назад

@@doppelganger8659 Yeah, that's something that surprised me about their 'emulation'.

@justdope1963 3 года назад

@@doppelganger8659 Yep. MPC 3000 in particular is so well known for the low end. Emulators don't quite have it yet I'm afraid.

@jdiazpdx 3 года назад

Hey Ricky, I appreciate all your videos and vibes.

@bonafidebeatz20 3 года назад

I did this exact comparison with my mpc 1000 and the live. I love how identical they sound as well

@LovevonMelenEkman 3 года назад

Appreciate your work Tinez!

@Waivium 3 года назад

You are my favourite for all the technical stuff. Really appreciate the videos

@RoomAtTheTopStudio 3 года назад

I like your conclusion. I agree with you too. It's nice to mess about and find out if the emulation sounds like the real thing but at the end of the day a great idea will sound great on whatever you make it on. Anyhow thanks for reminding me that I have to finish restoring an MPC60 mkII that I have waiting to do a project with, lol.

@1Tekneek 3 года назад

Dope bro, love to see others that do the type of tests I do

@JeremyCarlstedt 3 года назад

They both sound really nice! On the fence about a new sampler/sequencer. Replacing my Digitakt may be the call, but that MPC Live is pretty awesome. Thanks for the video! Amazing as usual.

@sharde8581 3 года назад

One of the coolest people on here and your temperament is great. Fantastic vibe!!

@TheSladeRiggs 3 года назад

I was quite surprised I liked the 60 more and I was rooting for the Live. Over my pc speakers I couldn't tell the difference but once I put on my good headphones the 60 pulled way ahead for me. I like the smaller footprint of the Live, the touch screen, and the lower cost, even thought I don't plan on purchasing either, but that 60 caught me off guard. Thanks for the video Ricky!

@mpmi7588 3 года назад

Best thing that popped on my subscriptions this whole weekend

@sandrolorini 3 года назад

dope test! i knew the difference between them would be at the extremes of the frequency spectrum from 20hz-40hz and 14khz-20khz and the difference ended up being pretty clear. i was able to guess correctly except for the distorted samples. man does that MPC60 sound sick. i have an MPC Live, and im not ashamed of it... but the MPC60's pitchshifting, and saturation/distortion is pure 🤤

@EricHicks 3 года назад

When overdriven the 60 retains a much smoother sound. It added some nice character to the sound. The live sounds good as long and it's not overdriven. Except on that one crash sample, the live handled that better than the 60. Still I'm impressed with the live.

@luciousfl0w 3 года назад

Definitely needed this. Would love to see a comparison with Maschine’s MPC60 mode as well 👀

@peppercrybeatz Год назад

that would be embarrassing for the maschine

@cqbs 3 года назад

You are the best. It's so chilling to watch your videos and entertaining at the same time. ./ivar

@SashaDza 3 года назад

Love this jam at the end !

@salimlamr 3 года назад

Awesome comparison 👏! Thank you!

@jonesconrad1 3 года назад

Thanks for you videos a great help at a time of struggling motivation / inspiration.

@marlow.w 3 года назад

nice to see u having fun!

@emanuelwhitehead6039 3 года назад

Great video bro keep up good work! I can’t wait to get a Mpc live

@greatness1993 3 года назад

always quality content from Ricky

@DJDigitalJosh 3 года назад

Thanks for the comparison. Great Video as always. 👍

@1980yeswecan 3 года назад

I had very very fun!!Thank u!

@danmoore9682 3 года назад

Nice one! This was real good of you sir!

@Kickdrum00 3 года назад

Dude you got everything😫🔥

@DidierBampiliMusicProduction 3 года назад

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@MyDeadFriendz 3 года назад

I can hear it...I use an MPC LIVE, but still keep my 5000 around because even it sounds slightly different...just found your channel...subbed👍🏻

@davidscott2095 3 года назад

Great video, hermano! Bendiciones!

@chimonlam7537 3 года назад

Haha! Over-what?? That was gold. Great comparison - really wasn't much in it at all with the clean samples but when you used the clipped/over-driven set the differences began to show clearly. Both did sound great though. You've got some gorgeous MPC's - would love a 60 and 3000 one day.

@DeadShogunn 3 года назад

Whoaaaa that’s Illa J’s MPC? Crazyyyyyy

@luckykraken5835 3 года назад

Hey ricky great video as always ! You put the same link for mpc 60ii and mpc live in the description ;)

@ObscureMachines 3 года назад

This is fantastic and the format you did was perfecto. Didn't have to jump through hoops to find out which was which. I liked 1. A, 2. B. Both! Dang...the 60 definitely has a better overdriven sound which I suppose is expected. My S950 gonna get some more love now. Bro, inspiring me to do a Live vs SP1200 shootout.

@MSHRadio-dj5zn 3 года назад

wow. Nice video! Thanks

@r4x2 3 года назад

Cool comparison!

@diggerjams7373 3 года назад

De-tuning on those old samplers is the business. I like how you auditioned the individual drum hits, also goes to show the 60 sums the mix better.🎧

@LlewynDaviesTheThird 3 года назад

Yeah great comparison. Thanks

@MrAnselm77 3 года назад

Can’t wait for the mpc 3000 test

@a_nick_t 3 года назад

This was great! Thanks

@wildishshambino4176 3 года назад

that jam at the end is so lit

@park171 2 года назад

Very insightful.

@alchemistrpm82 Год назад

Makes me want to sample my melodic material into my X from a 60. The percussive one shots were surprisingly close though. That second a/b test threw me. I was sure the louder one was the 60. I use the 60 vintage mode on all 3 of my modern units; Live, Force and X se. Set it and forget it. Sounds imperfect but better.

@slvrcross 3 года назад

Next video, can you have a conversation or run an experiment on _how_ to get those smooth vintage sounds from a new age machine like the MPC Live?

@MGoolas 3 года назад

Slate digital has a set of vintage tape and compressor emulators that can do miracles to your channels and master bus.

@user-pr6wl7mt5g 2 года назад

凄ーい！満腹です。面白かったー、クオリティー高い動画ですねー！今から他も見ます。ありがとう

@MrZkitZ 3 года назад

Nice comparison!

@tinktwiceman 3 года назад

Incredible, non-bias comparison. Can you do the MPC 3000 next? Thanks for this great content! As someone who loves samplers, I really been enjoying your channel.

@jonesconrad1 3 года назад

just rewatched Frank and dank's dilla studio rules that ish never gets old.

@AlbertSotosculptamesh 3 года назад

I appreciate your non-bias approach to reviewing this man!

@DidierBampiliMusicProduction 3 года назад

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@tlatsegms 3 года назад

Great sound✨

@rayh2596 3 года назад

Thank you Bro.

@Marrcello 3 года назад

Great Video! Inspired me to turn on my mpc one, put the mpc 60 effect on the output and make a dope beat! Thanks for that :)

@DidierBampiliMusicProduction 3 года назад

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@Emily_M81 3 года назад

you can also set the master outputs to various "vintage" modes in settings. so that way you're not using up an effects slot. fun video though! Test 1 I was kind of indifferent, test 2 I strongly suspected which one was the 60 and I was right (and preferred that one). You summed it up nicely in the end, though; who cares what you use to make music with, in the end it's what we're here for anyway :D

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@dannhume8602 2 года назад

Sick video

@StatikVibesBeats 3 года назад

I appreciate this video just got a MPC live 2 and wanted to know the comparison, drums are close but the MPC 60ii samples are warm grit's

@jessiewalker8547 3 года назад

Nice comparison

@audiolego 2 года назад

This is good Ricky

@dodenwaker6018 3 года назад

I am honestly amazed by the huge difference! Can u perhaps add a scope in a next video or so to show us what is going on? really intresting, thanks for showcaseing this.

@DidierBampiliMusicProduction 3 года назад

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@SajoBkule 3 года назад

yooo that mpc live customized look so drip

@wadewilliams1892 3 года назад

Hi Just completed a degree in Sound Engineering and Music Production- we studied this topic in class with out great tutor Sam Willis - 8bit /16bit analogue being continuous vs digital being limited - great video - but what’s most interesting is that the Live sounds so very very close - you’d be nit picking to find a huge difference and whatever one has over the over can be gained through plugins - maximum respect to Roger Linn - the MPC 60 is the legacy instrument whose workflow still beats a DAW - simplicity/ limitation breeds creativity

@adamacid3969 3 года назад

I think you’ve mixed yourself up there, mate. Bits aren’t analogue, they’re strictly a digital process.

@TheHarmonicaPlayer 3 года назад

Great vid.

@LinaaaOfficial 3 года назад

didn't expect the MPC 60ii to sound so much better, more glued together and less highs

@jonathansoko1085 3 года назад

The mpc 60 emulation in the one and live is quite good. Its way better than i anticipated and is way better than what i remember the maschine attempted to do

@agalleg83 3 года назад

If you can please add a spectrum analyzer next time...for us nerds 🤓

@ogasi1798 3 года назад

or just load one in your daw and monitor while watching?

@fliptheflunk 3 года назад

I like the 60ii when it comes to the distortion because you know you’re going to get that heavy, crunchy sound and when used properly it can drive (pun not intended) the dance floor nuts, and I do like some distortion in my beats sometimes

@AndrewPRoberts 3 года назад

10:23 3 of the songs on my next album were started on my PO KO! I love that little thing!

@BrandonZeeb 3 года назад

Thanks for the comparison! Those high harmonics on the MPC60ii seem to almost overflow in the digital domain, the distortion sounds like bit shifting, and the mix to my ears has more compression.

@Jamusictv 3 года назад

The 60 has a real analog vibe. You can really hear the difference with percussive sounds and bass sounds. A reason why the 60 is still Gs. But like you said. It’s all preference 💯💯💯

@drumatic 3 года назад

Ricky Tinez I used to have an MPC60 II that was modded by Forat with the Output Boost Modification on the Stereo and all 8 direct outs $300 - The MPC60 is 12-bit resolution vs/ MPCLIVE 24-bit.

@FilippoCarrux 3 года назад

I saw the video with some friends that have MPC Live and they failed the test. I don't have MPCs but as a fan of ricky I pass the test. The key is to hear not the drum part (you can hear something with the OHH and rides) but listen to the chord. the original 60 " knead" the sound while the mpc seems to be more clear but a little bit closed on the medium high frequencies. This probably due to the digital processing that tend to "spread" the sound's frequencies to the same level acting allmost like a glue comp. Maybe to avoid peaks in the final master track.

@c4pd0c 3 года назад

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@summerlaverdure 3 года назад

first of all, excellent video! im glad someone did a comparison like this, there's just this myth that "retro gear= instantly great sound" and im glad you proved that's not quite the case. Personally I liked the Live in all situations, but it did lose out when it came to the overdriven samples. Can any effects on the Live counter this, or is it just not possible? Either way, thanks again for an awesome vid!

@SAFC8294 3 года назад

When you compared a/b on the music samples, it honestly sounded like it was mixed differently. “A” having a more “modern” sound, and “B” sounded like other aspects of the mix were emphasized compared to “A”.

@NRG2 3 года назад

That’s what I hear with this live in all the different comparison videos 👍

@SB-wn2rd 2 года назад

The kick was much quieter on the B in both, which basically made the whole thing pointless

@riddimfernandez5139 3 года назад

Great video as always. Have you tried the Pioneer DJS1000? I have been enjoying it lately, really nice for adding drums while DJing (Serato DVS on 1200s). Have a creative day.

@supermonkeycollider 3 года назад

You had me at more bass. Just got a yamaha a4000 in a trade and have an s3200 coming in another trade. The asr10 has never been happier. The Live is sounding pretty darn good though. look forward to that mpc3000 vid!

@OdinOfficialEmcee 3 года назад

If you know what to listen for it is extremely obvious and easy to pick out. The big changes are clarity, punch, detail, and headroom. The MPC 60 actually has less of all of these but it also has a low mid bump that warms things up and makes it feel punchier - EQ for free. I think to get it closer to the original resampling or or printing at much lower resolutions would do the trick. The SP1200 for example is 12 bit @ 25 kHz, the MPC 60 is 12 bit at 40 kHz, the 3000 is 16 bit at 44.1 kHz. In comparison, the live likely defaults to 24 bit at 44.1 or 48 kHz. By down sampling you are going to get a lot closer to the original sound by capturing the information the older units would have actually been able to capture and shave off the excess that gives it the modern feel. The only difference left will be the differences in the samplers soundcard that actually does the audio conversion. While the plugin gets you close, if you want it near perfect down sampling should get it to where it is near imperceptible. If it still isn't quite what you need a little shaping EQ or compression will likely do the trick.

@BeauSkowron 3 года назад

I listen to a lot of weird sh!t to help me get to sleep - but if I need to work and stay calm, I just chuck on some Ricky Tinez and it does the job.... AND it's educational! Love ya boss!

@Gainn 3 года назад

The Live seems to do overdriven sounds better if you use reduced bitrate samples. I've been sampling on an old Yamaha SU10 and then resampling on the Live and that seems to give it the grit I was looking for.

@Neverkilltime 3 года назад

Awesome comparison. I actually like the digital clipping sound of the live. Might pick one of those up! 🎶☠️🎶

@saren6538 Год назад

Painful to my ears that clipping was

@Luap-ls3ix 3 года назад

my roommate just walked in on me telling my computer "it's overdriven" lol

@EARART 3 года назад

🧢

@RickyTinez 3 года назад

High five the roomate for me plz!

@MrSirrah84 3 года назад

Or would it be overdrove??🤔

@Waivium 3 года назад

@@MrSirrah84 overdrived 😂

@K33HOLDA83 3 года назад

Nice dude

@H4NDCRAFTED 3 года назад

Preferred B, had a nicer swing , more round bottom end, kinda hoping it was the new mpc , no such luck. Also transients seem sharper on the 60 for some reason.

@deejaynoizecph 3 года назад

Nailed the A/B test. But Then again, i have been using the MPC60 for 25 years now :)

@asundayfireofficial2774 3 года назад

The older MPC sounds a bit dull and warm. However, I love that sound. Both are great.

@atommachine 3 года назад

Like the s950 on overdrive the akai s give a nice vibe. But, seriously impressed with the live .

@Q-BOT 3 года назад

I like your ending point about the MPC 60 winning, but not entirely winning. The MPC Live is doing an emulation of the 60, and can do an emulation of the 3000 etc. This is a big point - while it might not do emulations with 100% accuracy, it has its own sound, and it also has the emulations. Its all good ^_^