100%! And also for pretty much anyone who just wants to learn how to break down music to understand it better. Really valuable stuff, even if you don't use it for sampling purposes.
I love this idea, but I’ll keep my M+ for now. I use serato studio to separate and bounce stems, import into Ableton/maschine. Nowhere near as fluid as this feature “seems” to be… but overall the Push3/M+ are more fluid to me. Hopefully it rolls out with no hiccups. The MPC never clicked for me, but they are quite capable devices. I love the push to integrate even more tech.
Fruity Loops has stem separation in latest version. I love to hear a A & B test of the same song separated and see which one (FL or MPC Stems) has fewer artifacts….or about the same??
I always am thinking what if Dilla was alive for this era of sampling. He'd be going absolutely crazy. Can't wait for this feature to come out in a few weeks here when march rolls around. I got so many samples that i havent used due to them already having drums👑
im writing the same thing everywhere :P Every time when there is new thing on MPC we have to remind them that FORCE is still a thing and is a beast. For me the best Standalone
This is amazing but also where Akai needs to beef up their ram and cpu inside their units. 2-4gb just isn’t cutting it, especially for heavy processing like stem separation. Newer units should come with no less than 8-12gb to ensure longevity of the mpc.
Yeah, specs always needs to get better as the software improves, for sure. I just really hope that the MPCs will be able to do this type of processing in standalone mode. Only the future will tell
I sampled and split this video’s samples into koala and can say that the mpc algorithm does sound better but I’m happy with what I’ve got for the price I paid.
I think the reason Akai is often slow to improve it's software is because hardware is still very much the company's bread and butter, having released 13 MPC branded devices in the past 12 years.
The stem separation in DJ software is real time based and as such is pretty low quality compared to offline processing we are seeing here. This sounds usable .. DJ software stems in my experience is only suitable for Bedroom DJs 😂 at best
Could you maybe try and do this with samples you record from vinyl? Curious to hear how that will work out, thinking of getting a new MPC just for this
Track for track off a sample. Let's be clear. Drums, snare, bass drum, hi-hat , .....bass guitar, guitar, other samples,.... pull it apart and make it individual. Tearing global effects from insert effects yet it's samples and not effects being broken down individually. We did this with 45's at 8 bit many years ago. Nothing new just trying to make money on another format. We've been doing it before computers/DAWS. Gemini made an 8 bit rack mount sampler that would do about 8 seconds way back. Ask Kanye
Since its processed on the software version on mac/pc in this exemple, Wonder if the 1 min processing time for this sample will turn into a 10min once fully processed by the standalone mpc when available due to difference of cpu power. Still amazing though
Hah! One of my first thoughts was, "I wonder what it'd do with a heavy or thrash, etc metal track..." Glad you addressed it! As for "who uses distorted guitars..." hrm. I got into jungle/drum n bass around the same time as I found Atari Teenage Riot/digital hardcore in the mid 90s. Jungle heavily relies on sampled breaks (can I get an *amen*?). Digital hardcore relies on many of those same breaks, but some also incorporated heavy guitars (notably ATR and EC8OR). Perhaps that interests fewer than 0.001% of your audience, but that's what came to mind when you mentioned the guitar stems. All hail our AI music overlords. xo
Thanks! I thought it was worth mentioning since the outcome really wasn’t clean. Lol! I know! People sample distorted guitars left and right and there’s nothing wrong with that at all 😀 Everything has its place in the culture, for sure! Thank man! Appreciate it!
Isn't stems the process of exporting your own songs into its individual tracks....but you are talking about extracting elements from a master, or am I missing something..I thought you needed specialist software to do this type of thing.
Maybe I'm being too sensitive. But hearing one person calling someone else's music "a sample" makes me feel bad. (Not really "bad". But I don't know how to describe this feeling.)
tried djing 15 years ago, and music in form of stems was my first idea after 30 minutes mixing. wondered why stems dont exist, let alone why isnt all music also released in stems format. few years, a decade lol, later stems appeared courtesy of NI but IIRC went nowhere. here we are, AI doing its magic. i do still think all music should be also released in stems format. the possibilites would be, nay are endless.
The crazy thing with stems that i never thought would be possible is that u can lower the volume on stuff in the original mix! If you kinda like the vocals and want too have it but not as loud u can now. If it clips weird on on slice u can do stems on just that slice etc - its a whole new woooorld
All this stuff is new to me my background is in traditional recording. So software to create stems is great tool, now can those audio stems be converted to MIDI if I want use different sounds but the original groove of the stem or change pitches?
Why nobody see the bad sides on this: Basically you find the hottest sample in the world and make a beat out of it. Now I can just take your beat, use stem seperation and just replace the drums and upload it as my own beat and put some Content-ID on it?
the only way I see this coming to standalone is by uploading the samples to the cloud and process them there. the mpc is way too weak to process it locally in a reasonable amount of time. on the otherhand this would finally make some usage of the internet connection.
Great way of stealing samples, is anyone ever going to sell release permission? I don’t see the point, you can make these sounds yourself easier & sound as good/bad & safe to release..
Koala does indeed have stem separation and a graphic eq. Although this does sound more capable but I’ll wait and see. So far it’s been super clean samples with basic layers
“Who uses distorted guitars for beats anyways…”. SMH - @Accurate - I’m taking away your hip hop badge. Can’t believe you’d even say something like that.
lol! Yeah, I know… It’s kind of a joke too. Distorted guitars has a place in hiphop, 100% I just have a hard time using samples like that myself because I suck.
Just Blaze had access to this technology as far as 13 years ago. I am getting an MPC One in a few weeks & i am glad they have it on the stand alone version. Nice workspace btw.
What’s good? Got a question about the sampling on all the MPCs and the software. On Ableton, when using Simpler, there a playback option that gives you the choice of Mono,Poly,and Thru. With the “Thru option, the sample will continue to play even when the next sample comes, is that making sense? If it does, is there anyway to do it on the MPCs and the MPC Software?
I remember reading in my Emu ESI-32 manual about the time-stretching "beat munging" feature that you could kick off the process and grab a cup of coffee while you wait (their words, not mine 😆). One minute for stem separation seems lightning quick by comparison. Thanks for showing this off.
How are you feeling about Maschine software at this point? I kind of feel like they’re adding features way ahead of someone like me. They also aren’t making many changes for the Maschine+ seems left in the dark.
Honestly, I haven’t really kept up with the software. I really prefer being untethered from the computer and use M+ in standalone. I use it from time to time but since, as you’re saying, the M+ hasn’t gotten a lot of updates, I tend to use MPCs way more. I think NI needs to drop something huge for Maschine… Like a new piece of hardware and a big update for Maschine+ or something to stay in the game.
@@AccurateBeats I was heavy into Maschine for the last 10 years, but I don’t find any enjoyment out of using their software. It’s just becomes like a job, and not the fun I remember. I may venture out, and try MPC now. This process should be fun, and inspiring. I feel like the only thing offer now is sales on VSTs, and expansions.
Damn this looks cool but especially on the drum stems you hear the typical phasing artifacts from stem separation. Kinda sad I sold my Force, it was an amazing piece of hardware but ultimately the UX of the software let it down.
The thing is…it promotes not making you’re own music. Although you can use it to make you’re own music for sure..it is a tool. Man it’s strange to see (hear)
I use MPC software with a a alesis vi25 keyboard with 16 mpc style pad 😊😊 . mpc live 2 was stolen last year and I paid 40 bucks for the keyboard when I got the insurance money to replace my mpc I never did because I loved the workflow of the software and the midi keyboard.
