Mr Bates vs The Post Office: The Real Select Committee - Nadhim Zahawi & Paula Vennells 

surprisingly the real version is better than the ITV one

This clip is all the evidence that is required for paula vennels to face criminal charges. Lie upon lie upon lie.

The ITV show was utterly compelling, drama of the very highest order. But this, the actual scene being played out in real life takes the whole thing to an even greater level.

It’s these two that should face criminal charges

These post office executives (and others involved in the cover up) should be in prison.

Those two women are hopelessly, this really needs to be fully in the hands of the police.

The dramatised version actually waters down the real version of events. Appreciate Zahawi has found himself in hot water over taxes in the past year or so, but he was on fine form here.

Vennells must face a very long Jail Sentence, without fail.

Michael Howard would be proud of these two's inability to answer a simple yes/no question.

Once you start to lie , theres no going back , Nadim was brilliant .

The "vicious vicar" in full swing...! It is simply stunning to directly witness such levels of arrogance and hypocrisy.

Well done Nadhim Zahawi - an (albeit rare) example of a politician getting it right.

Went after them, fair play to the lad. Amazing line of questioning.

Hats off to Zahawi on this one….they wriggled, dissembled, disseminated and lied and were seen to do so….9 years later they’re still do it….

Paula and Angela both belong in jail. But no, they get bonuses, directorships and CBEs instead 🤦‍♂

I despise Zahawi, but he did a good job here hounding Vennells.

Craziest thing about the entire fucking saga surrounding the ITV dramas, the fact that Nadim Zahari fucking played himself

The gruesome twosome, destroyed peoples lives then left to get high paid jobs elsewhere..... shocking 😢

Imagine, at your place of work, some money goes missing. You get blamed. If you deny it you are threatened with court resulting in prison. Or if you admit it you just get a suspended sentence or community punishment. So to avoid prison you admit guilt. Over and done with you think. Then your company sues you for court costs because you were found guilty, you owe £350,000 in court costs. Your life ruined. This company is called the Post Office. Their logo is " whatever you need us for, we're here for you". They spent £100 million in expensive lawers to try to avoid paying £58 million in compensation. The class action saw the incorrectly convicted see £20,000 in compensation after court costs. The executive salaries were between £250,000 and £500,000. Post Office investigators were given bonuses for every Horizon conviction

Zahawi playing the part of an MP who does his job properly

She needs to hand back her golden hand shake and if not she needs to go to jail. How thick are the judges to think after getting a new computer system in that over . r 700 postmasters become thieves

Both these women need locking up!

2:32 did the CEO really say “it is about the reputation of the Post Office”…how can she believe that..surely it is about the truth and justice!

The real committee dialogue is more outrageous.

Both need to go to prison, such a big cover up and Paula needs to have her CBE taken away immediately..... Glad they have now been named and shamed....

These two are liars.

The Post Office needs to pay back the money they took from the subpostmasters.

Paula and the other hard-faced cow should be brought to justice.

This is what happens when you run the government as a corporation. I’m a Texan-American where privatization of government entities have been allowed to propagate; infiltrating (and often, ‘changing’ the laws) for their own profit, at the sake of the workers. I thought the UK was better than that.

The answer is this. We cannot provide the files because if we do the games up and we're going to jail.

Two outright barefaced liars.. should be in jail

Hilarious when you get a politician asking the questions they want a straight answer when you never get a straight answer out of any of them

Paula Vennells is such a crooko she made Nadim Zahawi look competent.

Karma is coming for the gross incompetents at the post office who are responsible for so much suffering. I want to see Vennells behind bars.

Why wasn’t Vennells punished for obstruction of justice or perjury??? She didn’t want the British Post Office to take its rightful blame and incrimination.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😡🤬

And someone in government thought it a good idea to give her a CBE?

Paula Vennells walked into being the chair of an NHS Trust with the help of Dido Harding. Yet another example of failing upwards. From Alexander’s Excavations blog: Dido Harding the Chair of NHS Improvement was personally involved in Vennells’ selection for the Imperial Chair. NHS Improvement has admitted that it gave no ‘specific weight’ to the major litigation against the Post Office nor to MPs’ concerns about the Post Office’s leadership at the time that it appointed Vennells to the Imperial Chair. NHS Fit and Proper Person arrangements are not fit for purpose. They are also under the control of Dido Harding and NHS Improvement, who have delayed in acting properly upon the recommendations of a review by Tom Kark QC into these issues.

Jail is the only place for these liars

Post office is clearly shameful

The Post office does the impossible by making Tory MPs look good in comparison

The likeness of the actor cast for Zahawi is actually fantastic, I genuinely thought it was the real him.

I have no qualms about both these women going to jail for a very long time for their shocking willingness to allow innocent postmasters to be jailed or losing their life savings.

My respect for Nadhim Zahawi has been enhanced one-hundred-fold!

Can't wait for Paula on Wednesday.......got the popcorn ready! 😊😊😊😊

I take great joy in watching the pair of them sit there and stew in their own lies. Put them both in prison.

I've developed a newfound respect for Mr Zahawi! He absolutely destroyed them 😅

Truly putrid women. How can they sleep at night.

This is disgusting, they have nothing but contempt for all the people they have cruelly hounded until their lives and lively hoods were stolen from them. Now it's all about saving their own skins. Justice needs to be served.

both women need to serve time in prison

If Paula Vennells and Angela Van Den Bogerd were wearing pants they would have gone up in flames by now.

The real thing is actually worse than the drama

After further questions by the MP Brian Bilney it became apparent that Post Office Head of Legal had refused to provide the later files.

Are they serios? Do they go under a rock when they join the PO executive team? Are they so closeted in their little world, thinking no one out there can see what they are doing or get to them in any way, that they believe they are immune from social jusice?

Clear evidence that full depth of problem was known by post office management,obviously Vennells should have taken action but was charged with making profit at any cost.The blame must be with Moya Greene the previous ceo when this system was introduced and Ed Davey who refused five to meet with Alan Bates to discuss in 2010 / 2011 and 2012 😡

Still can't believe they got Nadhim Zahawi to do this.

And why are these two women not in prison?

Pack your bags for prison

If the Post Office had a problem with its IT and this was causing significant branch issues, you would have thought it was in their best interest to get to the bottom of it. After all, how can the business proceed effectively if they are spending time closing down branches and prosecuting their Sub postmasters?? Surely, it was in the best interest of the Post Office to get to the truth so that they could draw a line under it and move on . . . the first step being to scrap the system and seek redress from Fujitsu. What on earth did Vennells and her dreadful colleague stand to gain from being deceptive, evasive and dishonest?? I just don't understand their motivation. As it is, they have destroyed themselves moving forward, done untold damage to the Post Office brand but most important of all, damaged and in some cases, literally destroyed the lives of large numbers of hard working, loyal Post Office employees. Of course, the ridiculous thing in all of this is the fact this Select Committee roasting took place exactly 9 years ago in 2015 and this begs the question - what's been happening since?? The evidence from this committee was damning to say the least and yet here we are, all these years later and it takes an ITV drama documentary to get something done about it. The situation is shameful . . . . .

Wicked woman!

Incompetence at another level

Van der Bogerde comes across as an utter liar during this

Fair play. Straford Upon Avon MP doing his job, and well. Im not usually a fan, but credit where credit is due. Back in 2015!

Hearing Ian Henderson contradict everything Angela Van Den Bogerd says right at the end of the clip is dynamite - would love to have seen a few more minutes of this.

Neither woman came out of this meeting smelling of roses, even to a layman like myself it seems obvious that the post office hierarchy have been involved in a massive cover up.

Do us all a favour Paula...

These two women need to be in prison. I am appalled they have got away with this.

The most obvious question is why the lie about each individual post master being told they were the only one being prosecuted and the attempts to isolate them from each other. The vile Vennels has never been honest about anything clearly

NZ is my local MP (I did not vote for him). I watched this episode very late at night, tired I thought “that’s a very good look a like” till I googled and saw he had a real cameo 😂 tbf here he did a good job, just about the only time I’ve seen him do that in the 8 years I’ve been here

5:14 Alan Bates himself (to the right of Ian Henderson) delighting in seeing the PO bosses squirm!

So look forward to hear that both of these women are going to prison

She cares about her own self and nothing else

She has the nerve to go to church!!

And Vennells received her honour 4 years after this..by the same government grilling her here

Evil personified. Abject liars. Unbelievable.

pushing people to plead guilty knowing they was not .how many of post office bosses gone to jail yet.

Never trust anyone who starts every sentence with .. so .

That last 2 mins or so is just psinful......angela and paula should just say ok we will provide all info ian needs.....end of but no they have to go away first and look into it....just buying time in my book......how vennells is so well regarded in the church is beyond ne......disgraceful.

Both of them are liars!

Not incompetence… lying and criminality

For those who wish to watch the full Select Committee, this is the link: www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/d05cb9e7-04d0-4d05-8a43-ddd74b1eecc0 The Vennells part begins at ten thirty three in the Parliament video.

Brilliant casting and portrayal!

Alan Bates smiling at the lies at 5:16

And they gave her a CBE!!! jesus wept

Should be in jail all of em

It isn’t just those two women at fault. There are lots of people at the Post Office and Fujitsu who have a lot to answer for. They’ve perverted the course of justice. That’s a criminal offence and someone needs to respond accordingly, but reducing it down to two women is wrong. You’ve only got to have seen one of the Post Office investigators at the Public Inquiry the other day, absolutely insisting that one of the men whose criminal conviction has been quashed by the Court of Appeal, was actually guilty. That’s a disgusting and delusional thing to say about a man who has been through the courts and judges have seen that his conviction was wrong.

Just fucking corporate word spaghetti

If say for example an employee sent a rude email to another post office worker and that other post office worker reported this issue to their line manager. HR would be informed and they would find any email sent by any employee at any time within minutes and the sender of the rude email would be hung out to dry by HR. So in this case, how is it that they CEO a doesn’t seem to know fuck all squared about serious allegations and request for information in her organisations emails? How is it these people can just answer to a public enquiry that they don’t know? That is no defence, any ordinary person saying they don’t know in response to a magistrates question will be deemed to have no defence and therefore guilty of the charge. It doesn’t make fucking sense.

Unfucking believable? … just answer the fucking question… !!!!!!!!

She is such a liar and shameless as she tries to evade an honest answer

Being a chaplin will come in handy in prison

this whole scandal stinks of cover up

The most horrible women since Rebecca Brookes-Wade.

Imagine how corrupt you have to be that you make zahawi look like the good guy !

Paula Vennells caught out in more false history. misunderstanding ???

This is all about the reputation of the Post Office......................regardless of the rule of law, regardless of the truth and regardless of justice

They knew all them people were innocent and carried on ruining their lives for years and stealing their money. One stands up in church preaching when her decisions and cover up caused people to commit suicide. The two females in the video behaved so disgracefully they should be in prison. I’ll give the MPs involved some credit. What those two women did caused decent, innocent hard working people to kill themselves, be falsely imprisoned and go bankrupt.

The attempted cover up is outrageous, l do agree these two women should be charged , however sending them to prison won’t achieve anything…….do as one of the sub post masters said ‘hit them in there pockets’!

Why was Vennells not fully aware of everything before going into the hearing?? What kind of department head, is going to leave things like this to others; especially for a highly public and sensitive meeting???🤬😡🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Thanks for posting. Is that the sound of a couple of jail cell door's opening I can hear? To think that Vennells considers herself a Christian.

She lied through her a#se….