Mr Incredible finds out the truth about RTX 40 Series 

ive always avoided AMD cards like the plauge because of software problems. Ive been rocking a bitmined 1080ti since early 2019 and well, i dont think im ever going back to nvidia. i just cannot support this filth

@@tacocat9916 It's not like we can't afford these cards. It's just out of pure spite not wanting to finance this kind of organized scam.

@@anonanon3066 Sorry but if the cards perform better than how are they scum? 🤦‍♀️

I'll have to look up if Nvidia is vertically integrated in owning the chip foundries alongside hardware manufacturing, driver/software development (CUDA especially), all of the patents, and the deals with other hardware companies, game devs, and Microsoft. It seems as though oligopolistic economics conditions will continue due to patents imposing a further barrier of entry on top of capital costs for making the actual hardware for any competitors besides AMD

Amd stock been low af, nvadia make me more money

You get it! Its a 60 class card! 👍

*4050 ti 8gb ddr4

Top tier card buyers finally feeling that feeling us budget gamers have when amd and nvidia release bullshit cards like 6400xt and 3050 pieces of shit

calling 4060 mid range, lel.

@@PrintScreen. that's how it used to be, people could instantly after release buy gpu for 300ish euros, like gtx 1060.

It just works

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Reminds me of the 6x the performance BS claim Nvidia made on the rtx 2060

See that fps? You can reach it

I see I wasn't the only one who had flashbacks to Todds infamous claims

I've been a more loyal customer to EVGA than i've ever been to nvidia, they always had the top build quality and stability for me. My 1070 is still powering my other multimedia/lan PC and it never had a hitch. Sad to see them gone but i know for a fact that i won't be getting a 40series card at all. I see no need

@@MightyGachiman same here. Ive been rocking a 970 for the past 8 years, its still able to keep up with modern AAA games. Only recently upgraded to a 1060 because I was given the card. Evga all the way, no complaints. Hopefully whatever they go into next works out for them.

Lol... it all makes sense now

They weren't crazy, they were ahead of the curve.

@@Swarm509 I get that refrence

I think Jensen die claim 16x the .. something I was thinking about that Todd Bethesda quote too!

tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies

@@j22563 tell me lieeees

Rtx 4090 is only 50% faster than rtx 3090ti in games

@@coolgameplays1454 More like 25-30%. Not even 50%. Just wait for benchmarks and watch.

@Jennierubyjane shorts 🅥 no

Sayless

and the electric bill rises.

@@milkchocolategaming7428 “thinner the wallet remains”

amen

@u know me no

@u know me no

@u know me no

I mean, Nvidia did sell a GTX 1630 for worse performance than a 1650 and I believe a 1060 too.

They are all on Nvidia marketing payroll. Only people getting cards with their own money and ZERO NDA should be trusted.

I feel like your choices are. Buy 4090, get ripped off, buy Discount Ampere, or go AMD i guess.... what a shitshow.

They probably taking the PR hit to try dump the 30 series cards They have in their warehouse. TSMC denied Nvidia from lowering their contracted volume.

@@Maginus-Sama Which means after people just bought Ampere, there will not be a whole lot of demand for Lovelace. So they have the same problem later of needing to get rid of excess Lovelace.

@@johnc8327That is a future problem, but this one is current: They have vast amounts of 30 series cards they need to dump without making a big loss. The miners are ALSO dumping 30 series Nvidia doesn't want to lose the performance crown. 40 series cards are expensive to make and cool.

For an nvidia fan I am actually quite worried how the 40 series will go up against amd’s Rx cards

that's 4k everything maxxed out... you would get even less with a 3090 ti

It's from an rtx update that allows for higher resolution lighting and more bounces per ray rather than 1. So much more processing required. Still seems they are skipping specs and optimization on drivers for dlss tech.

@@darkshadow6556 Jesus bro you scare me... then the 4090 is exactly the same product with dlss 3 enabled ?

@@darkshadow6556 its using a enchanced rtx mode i belive

cp2077 still needs to be touched up in terms of optimization, but it’s definitely playable

I sure hope its not the last one. I rly hope they set things right with the 50 or 60 series as thats prolly when ill upgrade from my 2080Ti

This is probably what's happening. They're saving power for the next gen

Join the Radeon side, we have GPUs that don't follow Apple-level pricing

@@scrubscrub4492 I'd happily join if their performance beats the best nvidia has to offer, but sadly that isn't the case. Even if it was the case, AMD's pricing would also become apple-level...

@@Grand_Priest_Goku It really won't, GeForce cards have the highest profit margins of any component on the market ATM; they've just been busy ripping people off because they're used to crypto miners buying at any price.

personally like the 1650 more tbh, cool gpu for any hardware thats good

yes RX580 too

And it’s retailing for $900 on top of that?? 😮‍💨

@@guerrero520 Even more than that in Europe

4080 12G has 48MB L2 cache compared to 5MB in 3080

"We are committed to GPUs not getting cheaper over time anymore" -- Jensen, probably

Why a 1050? Get yourself a 1060 or 1070. Plenty cheap and good enough for the average consumer.

@@bretttanton328 You got r/woooosh 'd mate

@@engitect 😂

1660 super is good bang for the buck

@No Scope GG I'm using rtx 3060 only for Rainbow Six Siege and it's enough for me

Part of the reason they intentionally inflated 40 series prices, is so idiots will pay the already inflated prices for 30 series. There's no defensible reason for them to cost as much as they want right now other than Nvidia's greed & price fixing during crypto.

@@drrrin.k I'm planning on to get an rtx 3060 + ryzen 5 5600x

The 20-30 series have been dropping in price so enjoy your kidneys bois

@@hananthecrab Try rtx 3070 best 3000 series card

Even if it's slower than NVIDIA at RT and pretty good at DLSS and Rasterization for much less $$, I think that would still be a huge win for gamers and AMD. I'll probably buy their top end card for $1k if that's what they price it at

@@moldoveanu8 DLSS is GeForce exclusive, did you mean AMD’s upscaling tech FSR? It has room for improvement, I bet they’ll keep improving it.

I already lost my hope on AMD ... why? ... cause they also want to make money... they dont care about you and me, only thing they care is MONEY... I would even go so far and pull out a conspiracy theorie while saying: Nvidia done it on purpose because they've spoken to AMD to make a price-cartel ...

am going for amd build (4k 60fps) am happy guy ....am using now 1060 6gb 1080p

@@bubbelebiuub7273 You didn't say anything novel or enlightening, and collusion is against the law. AMD has tried to be the GPU value brand but Nvidia is favored by PC gamers because "muh brand name" so team red has tried to move away from that strategy. Voting with your wallet also sends a message, if Radeon selling cost effective products isn't increasing sales they'll stop doing it. Ideally consumers should support businesses about equally unless they're terrible in one way or another. We need to ensure a healthy amount of competition, it's what lowers prices and increases quality.

When u realise that a 3 year old midrange GTX 1660TI has the same 192 bit bus width 😐!

@@IronMan-jj2fd the 1060 also had a 192 bit memory bus

@@potal_memes yeah that too which is also a midrange

MY SUPER GAMING HOUSE NOOOOOOOOO

Gtx 1000 series 😏 Rtx 2000 series 😕 Rtx 3000 series 🫠 Rtx 4000 series 💀

@UCye6q-B4kwZkUDNcpdYKI3w that's not gonna happen AMD and Nvidia are all same shit we all know how AMD raised their CPU prices

Just like how it was show time the last time

Reports claiming AMD radeon rx 7000 will more energy efficient, generate less heat, consumes less power with sane price last gen.

@@yuvrajsingh099 put the link

@@yuvrajsingh099 that's all good but the price and performance are the only things that matter ultimately, as other factors are secondary. No one will buy a weaker GPU because it's more energy efficient unless it's significantly cheaper, even during this crsis.

I think the big part of this video was the fact that it showed a card called a 4080, but with a bunch of its cores removed, and a weak ass 192-bit memory bus(also known as the kind of garbage you'd expect on a 4050 type card, not a 4080)

@@Revoku It's worse than how the democrats took a nursing home patient and tried to pass him off as a president.

200$ 1080 ti, insane price to performance

@@elijahevo6859 Here are more insane price/performance rx 580 8gb $100 used for mining rx 6600 $250 new rtx 2060 $150 used and $250 new rx 6800xt $600 new rx 5700xt $150 used rtx 2080 super $325 used All prices for used were from ebay and new from newegg

@@amogus1479 tbh i'd never go amd thats the issue. drivers suck, no real software support like good hardware encoding and stuff like nvidia broadcast amd needs to step up the software game

Villandeeznut!

Unless you have been villain from the start pretending to be a hero. Jensen belongs to that lot.

nVidia has always been the villain lmao

Looking at you AMD

“You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become an even bigger villain” - Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang’s life motto

Buy a clean used card from a site that has buyer protections and test immediately.

I guess they just waiting for new crypto bump.

@@РоманПригунов-г1м ah yes they want that 1% increase in sales.

Jokes on them I’ll switch to AMD when it comes time to upgrade my 2080ti

@@jamieboer3466 If crypto would go up (btc to 100k 4 example) increase will be much bigger than 1%.

Same here with my 1070TI

Same, still rocking gtx 1070

Same here. 1070 since 2017...

Me 1060

970 going strong still

Nah it's trending topics, like the last one for student loan forgiveness

@@LeftyPencil is it another stupid TikTok challenge?

Same here with 2070s, I am finally gonna try out AMD cards, no way am I paying 2500 euros for 4090 :D

2070 Super gang

2070 S here,dominating still the stupid prices on 3090’s are crazy . Although AMD is more that likely getting my money at the end to build a cheap rocket machine.

Gang Gang 2070s baby!

I mean, the next gen consoles outperform that by quite a margin

Tbf if you match their specs to market it's really 4080, 4090, and another titan

@@jamieboer3466 but that 192 bit bus, tho

@@Nullzd so they are getting ranging from slightly less to alot more bandwidth, with a bus that uses less power, so.

Yea I was thinking of upgrading my rtx 2060 to a 3070. I don’t want anything more expensive like a 2080 because I’m perfectly fine with 1080-1440p gaming. I don’t need 4k I find that to just be way too much to spend. After I get my 3070 maybe this December, i might never need to upgrade again because I’m satisfied with how it runs seeing videos on it.

Sorry meant a 4080

Especially because crypto has crashed and now they wont have a crush of miners buying up all their stock and jacking up prices on gamers. So they just take a 4070 and call it a 4080 12gb and sell it for double the price lmao. Scumbags

Rip 1080ti, the good ol days. And even then that was ridiculously expensive. I'm going to AMD for the foreseeable future.

@@moldoveanu8 My 980ti was around $600 iirc and my 480ti was $350

Remember remember the 8800GT for 350$

8800GTX cost around 500eur in EU, you can barely get a mid tier gpu for that money nowadays...

@@Killernochance yeah, that's crazy what they did, doubling the price since way back then. From 480ti to 980ti. They only got away with that because nobody really stopped from buying the GPUs. My first GPU was like a GForce 2, hardly paid anything on it and worked amazing for CS and Soldier of Fortune and other old as hell games that were decent back then, lol

あっぷ

Although 30 life cycles sounds bad, I think the majority of users will only desire to plug in/out just a couple of times. Who really needs that many cycles, besides 0.1%(?) of the gaming population? By the time I unplug my 2070 super, for the 2nd or 3rd time(?), it will be to upgrade. So, I'm not convinced. That being said, I would have thought it was basic engineering/manufacturing 101 to make a product that can be handled 100's of times.

Just put a bit of solder on the cables and if they start to overheat, the solder will melt, and reconnect the plug even better than before 😂, then the dongle is permanently attached to the GPU 🤫

If you do intend to plug/unplug the cables more than once, you should have a fire extinguisher ready and nearby.

To be fair to Nvidia, the 30 plug cycles have been standard for decades. But it might be that current cables can go way past the 30 cycle standard. It is strange that companies are bringing attention to this if nothing has changed for the standard.

Most people will just buy a modular pigtail type adapter that just stays plugged into the GPU permanently then just connect/disconnect from that. Easy workaround.

​@Killet-wt6howay to prove his point. He said "I wish" as well. It's directly relevant to gpu conversation since he is comparing them

the problem with both industries is people are critical of both but people still buy both anyways. The problem isn’t how much we wine, its whether or not we actually bother to boycott bad companies, but nobody boycotts anything, so bad products keep coming out

who is 4100

@@urnoob5528 me

actually it's 5k for rtx 9090 ti

If crypto mining stays dead things will hopefully go back to normal. Etherium came in and disrupted the entire GPU supply chain and now we are left with the huge mess it left in it's wake.

I use some clear fishing wire to invisibly hold the extra GPU weight. I tied it to the top of the case and it comes down just enough to keep the GPU in place, can't see it and doesn't get in the way of airflow. It's just a loop. So I don't have to untie it to remove the GPU I just slide the loop out of the way

The 40 series is on a 4nm process though. Also the power cable has the same number of cycles (30) that they have had for many generations.

I hate what Nvidia is becoming it's all about releasing the Next Generation and not actually making a significant performance gain. Granted most tech companies are like this especially in the smartphone world

@Jennierubyjane shorts 🅥 no, we didn't.

@No Scope GG truly it is.

AMD should humble Nvidia

@@NikTek DLSS3.0 holds 40xx currently. Doubt AMD will release something good as it, but sure thing raw performance may be in the lead here!

@@kreozello I don’t even use dlss and not all games have it available

Children were sacrificed

House were destroyed

Wallets were robbed

6 slots for gpu: am I joke to you?

Nvidia went out of business RIP

that´s the point of this, nvidia wants you to buy series 30 not 40

They want you to buy a 30 series, not a 40 series. If you already own a 30 series that's fine but don't buy one now. In fact don't buy anything from this garbage company anymore. Wait for the new AMD cards.

@hogkill64 Yeah, true AMD cards are way better on price.

not just fine, the 3080, even the 10gb is a freaking beast

@@wizardwildestdoctor ないす

Which is why they made the 40-series such a bad choice, to make the 30-series look good without having to reduce prices too much.

Nvidia did disappoint

So true literally an April fool's prank

@@usonlyus7148 笑 笑 笑

nope its a beta product

not really lol

Nope!! It’s already having driver issues, and it’s to new and un trustworthy. Get AMD or NVIDIA GPU’s only

@@bretttanton328 driver issues for a brand new product line???? Heresy!!! Jokes aside, with a few driver updates Intel is a clear winner in 2022 GPU lineup.

If you use Linux with that directX to Vulkan software API the arc GPUs are apparently supposed to be a huge steal, as that supposedly fixes most driver issues

👌

0.1% of the time? Most people never benchmark their phone, so if we combine all the time that is spent using a phone anywhere on the earth and compare that to all the time that is spent benchmarking phones, it'll probably end up at a fraction of 0.01%, sopmething like 0.00000001% plus minus two zeros

@@maaax1173 i accept the troll 😅😅🥲 sry for that. I didn't mentioned the heavy use one can do with the phones bcz only some people do it. Only few games can take the flagship chips to their limits (like ghenshin impact). That funny value i mentioned above is from this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s0ukXDnWlTY.html

@@mahendratrivedi4650 What troll? I wrote that out of boredom, not to correct you

@@maaax1173 its rare to find people like you

5060 with 8gb vram 💀

no the main problem is that AMD/ATI has continued to make buggy worthless drivers and Intel keeps delaying their gpus.

@@BiigiieCheeese honestly i own gpus from both and the drivers feel very much the same, if already i for friends with nvidia gpus replacing their shit more frequently than anyone else i know...

@@BiigiieCheeese Times have changed, the main problem is people living in the past.

Problem is amd hasn't matched in awhile.

@@jamieboer3466 bruh what, as far as i remember the rtx 2000 series was worth Jack at launch and at least in my opinion got smacked by the rx 5000, yeah in the rtx 3000 vs rx 6000 nvidia honestly ripped amd... But seeing the rtx 4000 i genuinely believe that this is just bad product (according to the many tech reviewers niktek puts in his vids, lots of them have years upon years of benchmarking and building their reputation)... So yeah AMD has a high chance in beating a genuinely bad product (unless they fuck up again like they did with vega, dark times). One more thing, had this been apple instead of nvidia a lot of responses here wouldn't be the same and most people would just laugh at the face of anyone with an iphone, despite being one of the best phones ever, most people know apple products are a ripoff, and know their alternatives, it's bad when people don't do this research on their PC

Lol, no. But might be better option price to performance wise.

I'm in the same place where I'm considering just upgrading my 2070 to a higher-end 3000 series card instead when I get things in order to get my next GPU to do me for the PS5/XSX generation

@@AleXoEx0 "'some" is my keyword. Some games care more about memory than others

With the cracked hdmi port on my series x and this news it might be good to wait on tech while the community chews out these greedy companies for trying to cheat us what was paid

The 3080 Ti averages out the same so the 3080 12GB will defo win some titles. Maybe not the 3080 10GB but that was a $650 card, not the $950 they are charging for the 4060 Ti that they called a 4080 12GB.

I rather sell my kidney to buy this than give money to poor people

And a lot less performances it's an amazing budget card but not in the same market as the current 40 series offerings.

Nvidia exaggerates performance numbers by pretending DLSS and RTX both on is universal. Intentionally gimped the whole line of GPU's for higher margins while simultaneously increasing the price of each tier. Cable adapters for high current GPU's suck.

and Vega 64 2048bit bus

@@yonky8051 damm

to be honest... that bus width doesn't mean anything for gamers if the performance is there. It's just cheaper to manufacture. However nVidia used a 104 mediumrange die and sells it to you at an premium.

@@sulev111 How could anybody ever take exception to a $900 60 series Nvidia GPU? Inconceivable!

I have Ti version :D

i have the 1650 and im happy aswell! After a upgrade that i had for 7 years had no gpu, just a bad celeron

I am still staying with my intel uhd graphics 600 igpu

@@milkchocolategaming7428 i have had the pain, beam ng ran fine until i updated it to PBR , i had non pbr which helped to keep me sane for a bit while my pc crashed

Yeah me too happy with my GTX 1650 the earlier ones which has 1000cuda cores & not the latest ones with 800 cuda cores which nvidia silently reduced! Nvidia sure plays dirty when they feel like....

@Jennierubyjane shorts 🅥 idiot

1650 is not good

@@-opus wdym? Beam ng works great for it

@@shitpostinggang lil bro... beam ng is a cpu heavy physics game

@@anthonyl1717 yeah ik, people had a 1650 with a i5 and it said it runs good, and also the reason why i said the 1650 is good with beam ng is because you also need one that is alright for the game to play decently, cause if you have a laptop with only the cpu and gpu together, it causes problems "🤓"

[I have no internet in paying the ludicrous prices of the new gen GPUs] Does this means you might pay cash ? (jk)

@@then00brathalos Oof. Just realized I said "internet" instead of "interest." I have no INTEREST in paying the ludicrous prices of the new gen GPUs. I'd much rather save that money or spend it on other parts of my setup that are in much greater need of an upgrade (like my monitors).

People that buy these new cards have money to burn and will just sell it then buy the new ones, don’t underestimate peoples stupidity and lack of care or control, there’s plenty performance whores out there that but instantly anything better comes along

Yeah, it's like 3080 with only 8GB. What a joke.

Can't wait for 6GB "4080S"

imagine having a 3080 but playing in fhd. my condolences

Anything over 768p is useless. I'll stick to it.

@@ayushrawat9119 OMEGALUL. good joke

@@ayushrawat9119 you mean 480p

@@higorss 480p for videos. 720p for gaming.

Yeah they artificially throttle the cards for segregation. Can't have a lower tier card perform too well, can we? Otherwise nobody will feel the need to buy the high tier ones.

And this "4080" STARTS at $900 USD... You could get a used 3090 for LESS than that, with TWICE the VRAM and likely very similar realworld performance.

The more popular a corporation or one of its products is the more its quality degrades, consumers take forever to wise up (if they ever do) so a business is free to do a ton of cost cutting and price gouging.

@@protocetid except anyone who's studies computing would have told you this is how it would be, Moore's law been dead awhile, cool tricks are there but limited, so more power becomes king.

@@jamieboer3466 What does that have to do with Nvidia's power cables being shit? I'm no compsci expert by a long shot but Intel recently said the opposite about Moore's Law. According to a Digital Trends article chip manufacturers have a history of lying about ML to suit their needs.

@@protocetid Moore's law died years ago and Intel never said that it did not, it is an objective law you can do the math yourself, number of transistors in a given space stopped doubling every 2 year long ago. Also it's not a computer science thing it's a computer engineering thing.

@@jamieboer3466 "Moore's law is alive and well," Gelsinger said at the company's online Innovation event. "Today we are predicting that we will maintain or even go faster than Moore's law for the next decade. ... We as the stewards of Moore's Law will be relentless in our path to innovate." source: CNET Whether he’s right or wrong I can’t say. Regardless, arguing in bad faith will make people skeptical of your points.

Had the 590… ran super hot but it was a solid card

I stuck with the gt 420 about 2 years. But now i got myself a GTX 1050ti 4gb Thank god

@@imhigh7271 Hurrah to that bruf.... That is a huge upgrade... In a sense, you know what I'm saying... Getting an upgrade that massive really just left you at awe.... Sure, some would say... You could've get better deal than that or whatnot... I'll say F****k 'em.... They wouldn't understand anyways... It's a win bruf.... Hope you enjoy it & may it serve you well... !!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

@@absurdgaming00 planting to get rtx 3050 so ye

@@absurdgaming00 forgot to say Had it for about 6 months now. It feels amazing very.. But i got some money so why not go for rtx

1:04😂

they need to show growth to their shareholders.

why?

nvm i see now

Intel?

@@visebes9694 Intel has started making and selling its own dedicated GPUs. And they aren't terrible. Lot of promise in the future.

@@Jacksirrom あっぷ

amd were doing the same thing with bus and pci-e lanes on the last gen

@@nifiga_prikolno I'll wait for a while though, cause I recently upgraded to a 3090ti, from evga. Rip evga, you inspired me to switch to team red, gl on your future endeavors.

They can sit on those cards all generation long. The hype wave died quickly this time.