Mr McMahon Netflix Documentary Review | WrestleTalk Podcast

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What did you find most interesting about the Mr McMahon Netflix documentary?
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Timestamps:
1:00 - Start
2:57 - Spoiler Warning
8:45 - Overall impression
20:25 - Ep. 1 - Junior
33:03 - Ep. 2 - Heat
46:43 - Ep. 3 - Screwjob
1:00:47 - Ep. 4 - Attitude
1:16:53 - Ep. 5 - Family Business
1:29:42 - Ep. 6 - Family Business
1:42:07 - Closing thoughts
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@WrestleTalk День назад

OLI: What did you find most interesting about the Mr McMahon Netflix documentary? SUPPORT ON PATREON 👉 www.patreon.com/wrestletalk/posts More wrestling news on wrestletalk.com/

@sykosiz5785 16 часов назад

I think it's interesting that throughout the whole of the series, whenever "WWF" or "World Wrestling Federation" is stated, the subtitles say "WWE" and "World Wrestling Entertainment" 🤨

@sykosiz5785 16 часов назад

The big thing for me was Rita Mero suing McMahon for either SA or S Misconduct, she goes back to WWE and then ends up with Brock Lesnar. Interesting order of events when you consider what has been alleged by Janel Grant. If her case goes to trial, I wonder if Rita Mero would be called to take the stand...

@woodyjohnson8575 День назад

The bit where he said that he has another side of his brain thats alway thinking about s3xual acts was quite revealing

@DamariJackson24 23 часа назад

FACTS.

@westsidera97 18 часов назад

Man a high school psychology class helped me figure that out a decade ago, the fact he admitted it mid interview casually was kinda wild 😂😂

@sykosiz5785 16 часов назад

He's a deviant

@MrDegan2 День назад

The response to the rape allegations with "... And even if it was rape it's outside the statue of limitations" vile awful had to stop watching and take a walk at that point

@meciocio День назад

totally something an innocent person would say

@DamariJackson24 23 часа назад

Another reason why Vince is a terrible person.

@craighaley1658 День назад

My biggest complaint, too much focus on the business itself and next to no focus on the collateral damage. The family of Nancy Argento. The families of the countless wrestlers who died young. Anyone who was a victim of the ring boy scandal. All absent. It was all just "well, this happened" then they moved on.

@JoeChianelli День назад

It had to draw in people that aren't steeped in wrestling lore. I'm sure most of it seemed rather pedestrian to people who comment on a "Wrestletalk" youtube channel, but it was enough for general audiences.

@cjmk5923 День назад

It is a documentary about Vince not about those other things.

@NancyBoi1984 23 часа назад

I'm guessing the victims didn't want to he a part of it

@NancyBoi1984 23 часа назад

@cjmk5923 "those other things " are a part of the vince story weather he likes it or not

@secondbest2877 21 час назад

Let me guess you’re also upset that the Gobbledygook and the death of Bruiser Brody weren’t involved either? What does the death of young wrestlers or anything you wrote about have to do with Vince?

@TimmyJamesDafunnyMan День назад

Just finished it 🤯he's even more of a prick than I thought 😂

@osmosisbless День назад

this is saying a lot especially when you consider the horrible things he is known for doing

@robg8307 День назад

A notable prick you might say

@fallenkafiel День назад

All the drama geez 😂😂😂

@trelefebvre5807 День назад

That Shane knife story by Paul Heyman 😮

@blablablaa14 День назад

Imagine if he just stabbed him right there

@DamariJackson24 23 часа назад

I there so many crazy stories about the McMahons that I won’t be surprised if one of them goes to see a therapist once a week.

@secondbest2877 21 час назад

@@DamariJackson24nothing wrong with seeing a therapist.

@randomnerd3402 12 часов назад

@@blablablaa14 he should've in hindsight ngl

@NachtBogen 16 часов назад

The owen stuff and the concussion stuff just made me sad. Saying you didnt cancel the show because nobody saw him die they just saw an accident woof man. Later on casting doubt on cte being a thing. Saying taker didnt remember the match not because of the concussion but because he was in shock at having his streak ending... steve saying he doesnt remember his concussions... brother thats the concussions talking. Spend 5 minutes with mick and listen to him talk about how he forgot where he lived and drove past his house. Thats one of the major reasons why he retired.

@mmmjh1 День назад

There was so much generational trauma he threw on other people. A continuing loop of hurt and pain. All stems from his incest with his mother, neglect from his father, and physical abuse from his stepfather, all played out in front of tv/audience. In a parallel universe, he would be a serial killer.

@seanchan4478 23 часа назад

And in another parallel universe, he's president

@secondbest2877 21 час назад

Vince was also raised during a time of “Grin and Bear It”….people didn’t discuss feelings especially if you were a male. All that suppressed trauma and not knowing what to do with.

@keshavsharma457 19 часов назад

Incest from mother really?

@soca4life07 4 часа назад

I forget who said it, but "wwe mirrors reality." his history of trauma came out as wwe storylines. Shanes trauma during this shows what ppl say about passing down abuse.

@soca4life07 4 часа назад

I gotta say, I have been watching WWE from the Iron Shiek days, I followed this and remember how it happened as it was happening. I didn't learn anything that I didn't already know. Surprised they skipped over Eddies death or Angles exit.

@crpman9401 16 часов назад

1:08:41 I’m not sure if you heard Paul Heyman tell Stephanie “he’s putting you against him. He always has and always will”. It was something to that effect. I found that compelling as far as the family dynamic went with Shane and Stephanie. It’s like Vince wanted them to compete against him for the thrill of the challenge, or to show his superiority to his own kids.

@LordBlakeWhitehouse День назад

Oh wow they brought Dave in, huh. I guess Dan and Pete leaving really stretched the on-screen crew a bit thin lol. I love Dave, and I hope we see more of him ❤

@BaithNa День назад

I hope they kept Sat around

@o.g.francis9361 День назад

Dan's gone too?

@iamrandom4826 День назад

@@o.g.francis9361 to pursue his master's degree yes, but he'll probably pop up here and there

@DiscjockeysofaKingPack День назад

@@LordBlakeWhitehouse wow that's alotta first name basis drops...😎 can you sign my signature journal for the heck of it?

@blablablaa14 День назад

@@o.g.francis9361 Went back to school, not like fired gone

@InspireCreate43 День назад

Nothing against Cultaholic, but I appreciate you guys going a bit more in depth on this documentary and how you all interpreted everything. Thank you!

@everardoramirez3709 19 часов назад

This is wrestle talk not cultaholic

@InspireCreate43 18 часов назад

@everardoramirez3709 Yes, I know. That's why I said "Nothing against Cultaholic" before preceding to compliment WrestleTalk's channel. C'mon guy.

@thebomb7917 16 часов назад

It was like a really long episode of dark side of the ring disappointed tbh

@J_Tevo День назад

The whole thing is Vince contradicting himself. The production didn’t even have to push hard questions, they just let him hang himself.

@RawJah 9 часов назад

Yeah. When Vince repeatedly says that Vince McMahon and the character Mr. McMahon are completely different while EVERY person they interview answers that they think they are very alike while the character is just a bit exaggerated. Literally everyone says that, even Shane and Stephanie.

@seanchan4478 23 часа назад

I think vince is bipolar, idk, that thing he said about the computes in his head reminded me of my manic episodes. Big diffrence, i got help. This is a rich powerful man, whos been around for a long time, and is surronded by yes men

@RobertoSerrano16 20 часов назад

He said he had three computers or more going on in his brain at the same time, definitely schizoid

@daAnT1990 11 часов назад

56:39 I think part of the controversy is that Jim Cornette claims to have given Vince the idea for the Screwjob in the booking meeting with him and Russo. And honestly I can obviously see either one of Cornette or Triple H be lying about it or even both of them being truthful. They're both absolute wrestling geeks who think more alike about wrestling than they care to admit probably

@jesseweneedtocook6943 22 часа назад

Vince is literally Logan Roy. It’s also funny that Logan and Vince’s son in law ends up becoming the successor

@crpman9401 17 часов назад

I do think I said in a post on the shorter review that Vince McMahon takes out his anger and urges through the character he was portraying on television. I truly believe that Vince wanted to give a middle finger to the world through his “onscreen” alter-ego. He doesn’t have remorse for anyone EXCEPT himself. He talks about his abuse as a kid, but doesn’t mention the abuse his talent, male and female, were subjected to during his tenure. He even contradicts himself saying that the onscreen character is different from the man, but then says the lines are blurred between reality and fiction. I believe he’s out of his mind, and I believe he has some sort of dementia or something mentally wrong. You can tell by the way he booked the WWE shows from about 2017-2021. The Tribal Chief character was Roman’s idea. It’s just mind boggling that there isn’t more revealed about how depraved Vince actually was

@figby День назад

Always brilliant to see Dave Bradshaw and wonderful to hear their insights into things. This is a great show all around so a big thanks to both presenters and everyone working behind the scenes to make it happen 😊

@crpman9401 17 часов назад

21:25 the sexual abuse was committed by his mother, which is what I’m guessing propelled him to move in with his father. He briefly mentions an incest-type relationship with his mother, which could explain his deviant sexual behavior towards talent and staff he had working for him. I’m not a qualified psychologist, but Vince is someone I would want to study if I was.

@crpman9401 16 часов назад

1:28:35 they were humiliated on live television if they refused to do what Vince wanted. Some of that we can see with even popular stars that killed their momentum. So, it could be an argument that Vince’s ego was more important to him than making money, and he wasn’t all about business as he claims. If it was at the expense of others, then he didn’t care. But, his ego was more important to him at times than the business was.

@SomeAlienLow День назад

Some uncomfortable Stephanie realization moments... The Mike Tyson, "But this was before he was... convicted... of... r***...." trail off... Then Heyman's, "Vince always puts you in a situation where you two are at odds..." and her just saying, "It sure feels that way! Hahahahaha!" and you hear Heyman just sadly utter... "No, Steph..." Yikes

@megamanxhunter 16 часов назад

Stephanie was off at that moment.

@DavidCurry1981 5 часов назад

I remember Steve Austin admitting to being concussed during the SS 98 match against the Undertaker.

@kobba8813 2 часа назад

I don’t think Mushnik was implying he was implying that he was actually talking to the feds. I think he was saying that he was an informant, only in the sense that he was writing about it, they were reading the stories, and deciding to look into it.

@ericwoods6181 3 часа назад

The thing that I don't understand is: If he didn't want it published, why do the documentary, where he'd give such brutally honest, scathing comments regarding the things he's done in the past, leading up to where things lead to his current position today? Wouldn't it have been far better, to do a regular interview, quite like the ones we find online that are either political or non-political, and let the information be out there for us to search for and find, like everything else, if he was so concerned about it? Just my thoughts. If he had no regrets, then he should remain steadfast (ten toes down) in his thoughts and actions. He's only concerned, because it means he's going to lose everything that has his name attached to it, due to all the inhuman acts. He has created a great thing, and it's brought everyone together under this umbrella, but if he were a better individual of character, he could've shared in it with his family, and the ones who shared that passion with him from the start.

@devils-workshop 10 часов назад

What a great podcast discussion this! Love it team WrestleTalk!

@RAP7ORv 8 часов назад

I could see maybe Vince wanting Dusty to have gotten into shape and Dusty refusing and thats what he meant by failing to capitalize? I can see Vince liking his charisma especially when you compare him to backlund's lack of charisma.

@Carlt0nBankz 7 часов назад

The thing that is so annoying about the screw job is Bret was under contract for like another 5-6 weeks. Offer to drop the belt to Shamrock and Taker. Just didn’t want to do it to HBK in Canada as he was a horrible person and Bret has creative control on his contract. How is Bret the issue? 😂😂😂

@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991 9 часов назад

I watched first episode yesterday and today I went through next three. And I am exhausted. I don't know how you guys did it.

@osmosisbless День назад

the whole Owen Hart story was tragic but people miss the part where Owen chose to do all the blue blazer gimmick. The show must go on afterwards was a horrible decision and wwe has been plagued with horrible decisions before and since

@NancyBoi1984 23 часа назад

People ignore that bit cause in the grand scheme of things it's a VERY minor detail yes Owen was ok with being the blue Blazer, but he was under contract, he had a family , a wife a kid, he couldn't just quit, he had to support them he's a performer so he did his job whst mote can people say ?

@randomnerd3402 12 часов назад

@@NancyBoi1984yeah it wasn't exactly a choice at all. Bret even says so when it comes to Owen's choice to stay in WWE

@osmosisbless 10 часов назад

@randomnerd3402 Yes, but it certainly was his choice to swing from the rafters on a rigging that was by all accounts very unsafe. I'm sure he didn't know his ultimate fate, but I highly doubt it was in his wwe contract that he had to portray the blue blazer character AND he had to zip line to the ring on a Keychain carabiner. As I said it was all a tragedy but I believe if Owen didn't believe it was safe he wouldn't have tried the stunt in the first place

@osmosisbless 10 часов назад

@NancyBoi1984 obviously he did what was best for himself and his family. But he did agree to do an incredibly risky stunt that I'm sure he wasn't contractually obligated to do. But as yiu say it is minor in the face of the horrible conditions so many people reported since working under Vince

@Dadx31 14 часов назад

Watched it all last night and I’m still trying to process the documentary.

@foxedurnan 11 часов назад

I have so many questions... did the Bret punch start this down fall?? Why do the Owen stunt at all if it wasn't for the live crowd?? And does anyone else think Vince's mindset, do as i say not as i do

@siriusb22 День назад

1,2 break 3 break 4 break 5,6 now I'm going for a shower and a stiff drink

@monkeydeluffy1029 4 часа назад

Loved the whole documentary

@UninvitedGhost 12 часов назад

I miss the Hulk song at the beginning of streams

@AN2theDY 19 часов назад

Wanted to stop by and like and comment. I haven't watched the doc yet so I'll be returning to the review

@sykosiz5785 16 часов назад

58:51 Undertaker is a Vince guy through and through. He said that Vince was indeed fighting with Bret, not that Vince gave him a free shot (which Vince definitely says he did)

@michaelsinger4638 День назад

Vince’s responses to Rita Chatterton and Owen Hart were vile!

@MikeDee412 День назад

You guys need to adjust your chairs so you're the same height like Wade and Joe TessiTORE no A at the end 😂

@GurmukhSinghBahra 9 часов назад

35:24 Hulk admitted this on the Chris Van Vliet podcast. Not sure if Hulk has admitted it beforehand, but it was in that podcast where I first heard him admit to it

@robg8307 День назад

Thank you for watching this so i don't have to

@jscolli1 День назад

I am not saying that this is what you are doing, just pointing it out as it's a pet peeve of mine. The impulse in "tell all" stories is to focus on new information. But don't forget to talk about the truly terrible things that we already know. Novel doesn't necessarily mean important or newsworthy. And "old info," doesn't necessarily mean unimportant or not newsworthy.

@crpman9401 18 часов назад

Honestly I’d like a wrestling news channel to dig up dirt on the more realistic side of the business instead of spoiling us all the time. “Kayfabe” was brought up in an episode, and I want to see more of the outside thought process that goes into a show. TNA, AEW, WWE, New Japan. We’ve seen these shoot interviews about wrestlers saying “oh yeah this is what I think happened years ago”. Not all the facts are remembered or remembered correctly. Get it while it’s fresh. That’s my takeaway from this documentary at least.

@Rya_N33 15 часов назад

I’ve already watched it 4 times

@kylemiller6560 День назад

I listened to it on ear bud. I might watch it again on tv

@mooretoys94 День назад

I feel like in a way events are saying sable came back to work meaning that when she got paid it wasn't such a big deal

@Rodimusprimerib 22 часа назад

What a awesome intro!! 💪🏻💪🏻

@heatherwright3981 День назад

I cant sit though all six hours at once, I am gonna to digest this in bites.

@jacobrandlett2726 День назад

Dave Bradshaw says "Bad Man Gone"

@ChrisEdgeSXE 15 часов назад

Does Vince have ADHD?

@claycollins9852 23 часа назад

That man's head is massive.

@madhouse203 День назад

Mr. MCChopper? Pete? 😢

@dannygreen1985 День назад

Badass intro boys

@thewrestlinglodownshow3427 День назад

Thanks for doing this

@hottakestuesdays7450 22 часа назад

they missed benoit

@philllawrence1580 9 часов назад

1:10.00 apparantly it wasnt Owen's blood it happened in a prior match (i think Al Snow was involved)

@iwami54 2 часа назад

Yeah Al and Hardcore Holly had a no holds barred match for the hardcore championship, I believe it was Al’s blood

@cosmicking7979 19 часов назад

Who is the doc for? As a fan of wrestling most of this info is common knowledge and if you arent a fan why would you care about any of it😂

@yaboytroy357 18 часов назад

For me, who’s a window shopping fan. Pays attention every so often because I used to love it as a kid, but never dove into the lore and history of the company or Vince

@Trunks7500 День назад

😮

@DiscjockeysofaKingPack День назад

Why does that one guy wear the generic looking luchador pink n white mask so much?,switch it up bro it look like a giant Tampax on you're head.😔

@secondbest2877 21 час назад

How does it fly over your heads that this documentary is a hit piece? It started when Vince was in the company so he agreed to do it and allow access. Then came the scandal is his subsequent firing. Ari Emanuel wants to distance himself and his businesses as far away from Vince as possible. What makes me believe this? The only stuff “fans didn’t know about” was Vince’s Childhood. Had this doc shown anymore about his childhood Vince would’ve became a sympathetic figure. He’s a result of A,B, and C so cut him some slack. Not to mention the footage can be edited anyway to tell a story they want.

@HULKHOGAN1 13 часов назад

Love how episode 1 covered the rich history of pro wrestling though it could have gone for 2 episodes TBH. Very cool insight into avince growing up, his relationship with his father and taking over the territories. Hate how Netflix opened the series with the allegations. Who gives a crap. Leave that to the judges.