3:47 I honestly think the focus on Shane was to show you the comparison in his relationships with his father his stepfather and his son all three relationships are unhealthy and toxic in their own way his father abandoning him and never explaining why never left Vince McMahon his stepfather abusing him is another thing that never left him he never got over it and so his complicated relationships with both men insured he had a complicated relationship with his own son and from what I’ve seen what they tried to do was to have you the viewer see the parallel Rather than them telling us he’s become just as toxic and the way he relates to his son as the way his father figures related to him and he doesn’t see it so it’s almost like the person doing the documentary is putting Vince through therapy only Vince doesn’t realize
Thank you this video Daze I haven't got Netflix and your summary was perfect for me. I hope we'll still get Raw on TNT in January. Thanks again you're a star
The documentary was pretty much what most longtime already knew. There's some unused clips and some backstage old shots. It has newer interviews with wrestlers and people in the business. But most of them are the same stories. Vince talking was the most interesting parts imo. If you didn't know anything about Vince, then this is for you. Great review Daze. Thanks
Stone Colds CTE comments aswell was just 😬 blaming wrestlers for their concussions after showing clips of benoit being dropped on his head face first by other wrestlers really gave me the ick
Vince perpetuated the coldness that his father bestowed upon him. I hope for Shane's sake he broke the cycle with his own boys. No child deserves that.
Should have been titled "Hits different" oh well...Anyways first most obnoxious thing is many wwe people pronounce big words like 7th graders...Theyre billionaires and multimillionaires tho....Aside from that, speculating, have to think Ventura was instructed by Vince Mcmahon to try to unionize for the publicity as a "work"...but the rasslurs were so stupid they submitted. Theory
We all know everyone is going to have their opinions about the documentary how about Vince McMahon we all know that he's a very cold-hearted person at least the character that he did in wrestling what's the thing that people fail to realize, yes of course there's going to be bad problems during success but that doesn't mean too much success is bad it just means he was a million 2 billion corporation he was very successful in the 80s with hulkamania the 90s with the attitude era and Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels the 2000s with the ruthless aggression era my favorite era personally and then the PG era and then he talks about after that , Vince the character is a bad man terrible human being that played the character so well even John Cena said it himself he is the best WWE character of all time greatest , he made that industry alongside his father Vince McMahon senior he is a hard worker he's a workaholic , but he created all of that organization business whatever you want to call it , if there was no Vince or people like Eric bischoff there would be no WWE there would be no WCW there would be no hulk Hogan no John Cena The attitude era no Raw is war none of that crap if he just didn't become the success he became it's all a slap on the face at the end of the day and all these years he build up the entire generation after generation without Vince McMahon there is no WWF WWE it wouldn't exist, and it also wouldn't exist without hulk Hogan turning heel and then they made NWO in WCW there would be no war there would be no attitude era there would be nothing both companies would have probably went out of business or something else would have happened that we don't know about ,but that's why we as fans should appreciate and thank that man for what he's done for the industry, like the undertaker hulk Hogan said even John Cena they would take a bullet for that man Vince McMahon , alongside the scandals I personally believe that 90% of them are true and he's just covering it up and sweeping it under the rug to cement his legacy, but he said he has no legacy who is Vince McMahon the owner of the world wrestling federation entertainment , he made the billion-dollar corporation and the crowds and the fans in the audience nobody else is responsible for those times but mainly him it's great that we got to see some moments with his son Shane believing in him all those years that was a great moment and everything we saw and of course you're going to hate it because you think Vince McMahon is a bad man but like you said in the mirror he knows who he is , any of you people don't know Shit above Vince McMahon unless you know I'm personally , now I don't know him personally but I have intelligence and a good feeling and I can imagine how all that pressure was on him all those years, people should be appreciative from the audience from the fans , that's another thing, they always care about what the critics say , it's all bs scandals and all that garbage I don't give a crap would any of you believe but it's the truth, and the truth hurts 10% of those was awful things he did as a businessman he was a power hungry man he had all the power of the success and he almost blew it at the end not only in the end but in the towards the middle of his career and success in the industry , remember people there would be no WWE without Vince McMahon that's not a quote that's not catch phrase that's a fact of life and people learn to deal with it!
I remember watching over the edge live May 1999 and to this day and forever I just find it to much of a coincidence that the ppv title and what happened… happened… i just will forever find that too odd…. Fully agreed as a true wwf/wwe fan if your hardcore your not learning anything you didn’t already know apart from the few extra bits of unseen footage throughout.
Seriously, it was six hours of wasted time. I knew everything that happened with the case yeah there was some stories. Shane comes out looking like a real hero in this but if you have Linda Shane Steph, why not ask him some real fucking questions like especially with Linda hey are you married to this guy Still after he did all this stuff this was even before the allegations came out. How many settlements did he have before that we haven’t heard of waste of time get work clicks for your page.
Phil Mushnick was the MVP of this whole story. I feel like he is partly correct about the fans not caring to a certian point, we all cheered on these wrestlers destroying themselves with wild chair shots to the head and continued to watch it cheer for it support it week after week and there wasnt a public perception shift till after a wife and child are murdered by one of these wrestlers
Mushnick does deserve big credit, he's been on the rot long time. The cte science did not really emerge until middish 1990's believe it or not, and it was concealed pretty well. It's only slightly gotten traction because big money sways public opinion. nfl keeps stiff upper lip but theyre terrified of legal exposure some point and trying to break into Europe. benoit tragedy really was a form of OJ scandal.
I saw it all. Vince lied about Wendy Richter. He said she didn't want to give up the women's world title. That's not true. She wanted more money for women. So Vince screwed her , by giving the title back to moolah. Moolah had that title for 28 yrs.
Moolah is someone i used to have alot of respect for. It sucks what Vince did to Wendy. Good on her for standing up to the boss man especially during the TIME she did it. Moolah in the last few years even in her passing people have come forward about things of her "wrestling school" and the way she handled the girls that came through. Especially the LGBTQ+ ones. These allegations paint her in the air of a trafficker. I just wish i knew if they were 💯. I haven't watched this Netflix series but i'm going to.
He says "it was for the business"...So Vince Mcmahon telegraphed a sleezy thing occurred but we dont get insight. It's vague why "that helped the business."
I enjoyed this video and hearing your thoughts, but I can't say I agree on the documentary being epic or even very good at all. I felt it was advertised as a real look into Vince's life. A documentary on who Vince McMahon really is, something even hardcore fans will get a lot out of. But in reality this is a brief history of WWE for people who've not watched wrestling or have never heard of Vince. I'm just speaking from my perspective but I didn't need to hear about the Monday Night Wars, the Montreal Screwjob or Chris Benoit again. It's been covered hundreds of times. To hear a little more about the dynamic between Vince and Shane was quite interesting but really that was it.
1:58:23 made it to the end! Thanks Daze. I knew some of it, other bits were news, and actually the extent to which he destroyed the territories was rushed over. His legacy will be that he did what he wanted not for The Business but for his business.
They got me in that last episode lol i was so invested in Shanes story and him just wanting that approval from his dad, they hug and theres tears in shanes eyes, vinces eyes hell even my eyes watching they do it so you can feel the emotions and then BAM lawsuits oh yeah this is Vince McMahon the absolute demon of a vile twisted sex pest
I honestly didn’t think it was a bad portrayal of Vince. He’s a complicated, weird, entertaining business genius. I kinda feel like him “trying to buy it to destroy it” is a classic Vince work, which only resulted in more eyeballs on it 😂 because it wasn’t really a ‘hit piece’
12:19 it is your right it is cold 😢you think he would do better because his dad was worthless you really think he would want to be better not in tell he started making him money it’s sad
It's disputed if that was Owen's or prop blood used by Gangrel. Documentary might have botched that. Owen fell around the ring post and probably didnt spit up blood because the impact was heart apparently.
@@sampleoffers1978 Confirmed in documentry it was Owens blood to a lot of people’s disbelief who watched it live back in 1999. In regards to “ Prop blood “ I highly disagree after such a tragic incident that they would set up prop blood. The accident itself was a complete tragedy and the showing going on was controversial enough than to even think of that.
@@IrishSam123 Things I read said the prop blood match was before Owen fell. Maybe it's true, so I'm not trying to argue...If it's accurate I apologize, but this is first time that's being established uncontested as true. I'm only skeptical because I think Owen's cause of death is the ropes or ring post, fatally injuring his heart, which might not have caused him to spit up a lot of blood if any. It's specifically heart damage. Maybe the doc is accurate though.
1:38:56 I hope this doesn’t come across as if I’m defending Vince McMahon because that’s not my intention but with the Chris Benoit situation I think the reason he doesn’t see steroids or trauma to the head or even recreational drugs as the reason behind those horrible actions because remember as you mentioned earlier he was abused as a child and his abusers didn’t do those things because they were wrestlers or because they got concussions or because they were doing steroids so having been exposed to the monsters that human beings can be without any extra I think Vince. Sees that tragedy as a human monster not an engineer at monster
When Vince Mcmahon is questioned directly on matters, he openly says he cheats or evades consequences, examples in Wendy Richter matter, fighting in his childhood and outlasting statute of limitations in the Chaterton assault. So we don't know fully what he might have evaded in life. It's just easy for him to call benoit monster, but it is terrible incident probably worsened by Guerrerro's death, steroids and cte.
Stephanie says "we mortgaged everything we owned to purchase the wwf"...What in the world in the early 1980's did the Mcmahons own to qualify for a million dollar mortgage to buy the wwf in 1980's inflation? A milllion dollars in early 1980's was like three million dollars...What in the world did they own and how did they get it?
@@daytonharrison5587 The doc said it was but that's been contested point the doc might have botched. It was always said that was prop blood used by Gangrel earlier in show.
I didn't know Tony atlas knew vince McMahon more than austin,rock,hhh,undertaker and cena combined!!!! It was a waste of time,we already knew MOSTLY about everything
