Mr Welch's Mad Musings: Star Wars d6 

Thank you for your service!

Agreed. I just re bought this game because honestly D20 systems kinda suck, particularly for cinematic style gaming.

@San Shinobi We played the Edge of the Empire starter set and it was pretty fun and had a Star Wars (original trilogy) feel to me. That said, I'm still a huge fan of the D6 version.

I still play the WEG revised 2nd edition to this day. Also use the OGL for D6!!!!! And set traps for the Rat in Diz-sneez francheese!!!!

@San Shinobi Strong disagree here. Gimmick dice are a plague. Struggling to remember what the funny symbols are and what their rules are for when they turn up isn't fun. It slows down the game. Lack of mechanical depth isn't fun either. D6 is way better. Has more versatility, and loads of fan made expansions.

The edge of the Empire series by Fantasy Flight games, if you can get over the wonkiness with houseruling, is pretty good all things considered. The gimmick dice are very useful for a GM who's hastily building the road before the players and for one who likes to carefully craft encounters. Especially since the gimmick dice themselves are easy to understand after a few rolls with them, explosions good, swords are criticals.

Barables. Stormtrooper grade natural armor, nearly as big as wookies. Don't shoot the 2+m tall lizard man, it just annoys them.

@@templarw20 Coynite. Possibly the most broken race in the game. Their battle armor is the only one that offers two full dice against energy weapons. And their stats rival Wookies.

@@Mr_Welch I had to dig to find where those guys were. I guess they were in the Darkstryder box? One of the few supplements I don't have (I'm not selling my set... I hope to run it at some point, with my custom timeline). Barabs have a slightly bigger footprint in the old EU, with a cameo in Zahn's trilogy. And the Barab Jedi in NJO was about the only good thing that came out of Del Rey's corruption of the setting (seriously... they messed up so much it made Disney's decision to axe the whole thing more a mercy killing).

@@templarw20 they were in several books as West End games liked to recycle material. Their original appearance was in Planet guides 3 and then in two of the aliens sourcebooks

What about scale? in terms of damage

Brian Dean that's because Tom was a little creepy and he had a problem with the color of my girlfriend.

And that was from 2 years ago haha

RAW any use of force lightning is a dark side point

If you're interested I highly recommend downloading the free Star Wars d6: Revised, Expanded and Updated fan made books. It's a fan made re-release of 2E with every bit of errata from release to end of life for Star Wars d6. It doesn't add any new rules other than optional ones from other D6 products and gives rules and stats for eras like Legacy, KotOR and other EU material. And best of all it makes absolutely no mention of Disney's sequel trilogy.

@@DoctorEviloply It's probably in my various files somewhere. The different takes by different writers on the KotOR and TOR related stuff reminds me of the days when the prequels were coming out, and there was a d6 SW fan group where we argued over the stats of stuff like the Naboo fighters vs "modern" (OT) starfighters.

There is a second generic edition in the works and there have been several D6 games that have come out in recent years including Vikingr (for roleplaying Vikings going on raids) and Zorro: The Roleplaying Game.

Exactly. I have two complaints about FFG's re-release of the WEG game. 1) They only released the "core" and don't seem to be doing anything else, and 2) they did 1st edition, not 2nd. A friend showed me his copy, and he wasn't sure the edition, and I opened the sourcebook to the starships. "Yup, 1e. No hull and shield stats for the capital ships."

Haha, I thought the same thing!

You have to get lucky. It's not cheap

@@Mr_Welch Dammit, I figured. I can find 1E all over the place.

No set schedule yet, but I have Aeon, 7th Sea, Paranoia, Iron Kingdoms, Twilight 2000, Traveler, Aliens, Mage, Silver Age Sentinels and GURPS planned so far.

Alright, sounds good to me! I appreciate the work that goes into finding and editing those images together but if you ever get tired of it, you might as well just record yourself talking to a camera (like the Gentleman's Guide to Gaming does). I'm usually not a fan of facecams but for reviews it's fine, as long as we have something to look at while listening :)

Second edition is better. It just solved a lot of weird rules issues. There's not a lot of first edition material anyways

Thanks!

... stuff happens, but it's all over the place, and doesn't seem to have a focus. The original trilogy focused on two things: 1. The rebels' open fights against the empire. 2. Luke learning to become a Jedi. The prequel trilogy focused on galactic politics, expanding the lore through the films, and Anakin's journey. The new trilogy doesn't have much focus, besides the resistance vs the First Order. Although it attempts to focus on the characters' stories and journeys, it is split too thin among too many characters. They are trying to develop characters on both sides of the conflict, which is commendable, but it doesn't quite work as well. I don't think they use the stories they tell to give any true perspective of the characters' growth. "Rae gets some training, and Kylo has anger issues" is about the extent of it. I actually think that Luke had more character growth (or at least more change, not necessarily growth) than the other characters, *because of the context* we are given. I think it was actually fantastic the way they portrayed Luke's actions and Kylo's turn, by framing it through the eyes of different characters with limited information. It becomes so much more important (not in plot, but in characterization and content) when you first see it through the eyes of specific people. It has much more weight than it would have if it were first explained outright. Now the framing wasn't the best (we knew Luke wouldn't have just killed Kylo for petty reasons, and I feel they could have given Kylo a reaction or view of events that would mesh a *little* better with what the audience already knows inherently, but that's not really very important). However, we do not have a good frame to view any improvements that Rae has made by training. We don't see her learning lessons in patience or the values of specific training that displays the things Luke emphasizes in his training program. We don't see an improvement in her combat prowess, unlike with Luke in the original trilogy, because she already managed to defeat a nearly full strength Kylo in episode 7, while she had no training in lightsabers at all. In episode 4 A New Hope, we know that Luke isn't good enough to fight Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel, from his lackluster performance against the training drone. They don't even pit them against each other with lightsabers in that movie. There is no escalation, because we have nothing worthy to judge her performance against, before and after training. These new movies don't really consider anything from each other, besides basic plot points or results. They aren't showing growth across the trilogy. We don't even get to see Rae improving with the force. My suggestions would all be based around these things. Rewrite the plots, or more specifically, the framing, to show growth of key new characters, *across* the movies, so we can also have escalation of character interactions, not just plot points. That is key in a Star Wars movie. Characters cannot stay the same. They aren't *just* action movies. Don't have Rae and TR8T0R guy defeat Kylo in the first new movie. Maybe make it so she is close to Kylo and Han, and tries to intervene in a more openly hostile encounter, fail to save Han, but still escape with her own life. Especially don't have her use force suggestion out of nowhere. That doesn't seem like it would be a force power that would be commonly known to exist at this point, after the Jedi collapsed twice. And managing to use it without any force training at all is just absurd, and feels like it invalidates the previous movies, which indicate a large amount of training to become even mildly proficient in the mundane use of the force. Heightened and extended awareness seems more latent, and would be more acceptable. And in order for me to not laugh at Kylo, he needs to not be a mook. It'd be like if Darth Vader tripped on his cloak in episode 4, at any point he is seen. Fighting anyone at this point, they too become a mook unless they can trash him. I mean, why isn't he stronger with all the training both Luke and Snoke must have given him? How did he get defeated by a nonforce sensitive, and a non trained, sudden force user? Inattentiveness and over confidence has been seen to down other powerful force users, but not like this. He *should* be threatening, but unfortunately I cannot see him as such. This is just the start of suggestions I've come up with on the fly. They are mildly decent action movies, but they do a disservice to the storytelling of Star Wars in the past.

@@adamofblastworks1517 I really enjoy and agree with a lot of your perspective on the sequel trilogy. I liked this point a lot: They don't even pit them against each other with lightsabers in that movie. How many movies being made would have the courage to not have the main hero and main villain fight each other directly, especially when you consider at the time there was no guarantee a sequel would ever get made. And even in that sequel the hero loses.

@@jimzecca3961 well they kind of were pitted against each other later in the trench run.