Ms. Marvel 1x4 Reaction: Seeing Red 

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My family is from the partition era and that last scene really made me cry because that's something what my grandmother used to tell me

“This shot is giving me anxiety.” I feel you! I kept thinking about the trauma the border has caused so many of us Mexican Americans and the separation of our own families :(

The point in history they keep referencing is called The Partition of India. In 1858, British Rule was established in India. When Britain went to war with Germany in 1939, they used the Indians as part of their military. During the Second World War, Britain offered the country independence once the war was over. But there was tension between Hindus and Muslims in the country, and so instead of granting India total independence, it would be split into separate states. It was supposed to happen in 1948, but when Lord Mountbatten was declared viceroy of India, he brought forward the date to 1947. He divided “British India” into three separate states: India, West Pakistan and East Pakistan (now known as Bangladesh). On August 14th & 15th 1947, this partition of nations - drawn up by British lawyer Cyril Radcliffe, who had never visited the counties before, on dated maps and in just five weeks - led to riots and it made an estimated 12 million people refugees, the largest forced migration of people in history that wasn’t due to war or famine. The final trains out of the country before the "borders" take effect are what we see at the end of this episode.

As a random french dude, I'll never fully understand how terrible the Partition was. But damn. This show did a great job at giving me a tiny little glimpse of it. That last scene...

Waleed said that they were CALLED djinn, but if THOR had landed in the Himalayas, he would have been called a djinn. Meaning that she isn't necessarily a djinn as in from the Islamic texts, but more just a name used to define "OTHER"

I think she will lead her grandmother with the stars that they keep referring about.

that ending scene with the trains really got to me. this show has been doing an amazing job making every emotional moment hit me like a ton of bricks.

That last scene gave me chills. I've never learned about the Partition in school, either. I actually first heard about it in an episode of "Doctor Who." But that scene of the train station reminded me of the scene in Titanic where the camera pulls back, and you see everyone in the ocean after the ship sank. In both that movie and this last scene, it was like desperation, fear and sadness. :/

Partition Story: My father was left by his mother at a bus stop while escaping and migrating from Amritsar(India) to Lahore (Pakistan), but was lucky enough to be brought back by their neighbors to the train station where he was reunited.

My dad freaked out when he saw the actor Farhan Akhta. I didn't know who he was. (My Dad is Bangladeshi )

I havent been this invested in a Marvel series story yet. Most of their series are exciting for the fight scenes but this one has you falling in love with the character building and home life

Like the Red Dagger guy said they are not really Djinn's. They are from a different dimension and if Thor had showed up in South Asia he would of been called a Djinn too. It was just the easiest way for the Humans of the time to explain these weird people.

I am continuing to really enjoy this show. So well done. I really like that we are getting development of Kamala's family as well as development of her superpowers. Her relationship and interactions with her whole family is so much the heart of this show for me. And, as you observed, the music continues to be so, so good.

This is honestly one of the best comic book tv shows ever made! Everything from the acting, the writing, the directing, even the fight choreography is awesome as hell. And I absolutely hate that every school I ever went to only taught “world history” that had to do with America or the west. I wish they taught us about partition and how horrible it was. Honestly all of the hate I have heard thrown at this show has so little to actually say as to why they hate it that I’m certain it is for sexist and racist reasons both conscious and unconscious. This show is bright, beautiful and absolutely endearing.

I was not expecting the scope of the last shot, the slow zoom out and seeing how many people and what kind of night the partition was, WOW.

The last scene just gives me shivers everytime i watch it

I love how much you guys love this show! you guys shine such a great light on it. 👏🏼

She is not a Jinn. Jinn in Islam - and consequently - also in South Asia folklore refers to supernatural beings. When people in South Asia saw the clandestines, they though they were jinn. Same way as if Thor had come to the Himalayas, they would have thought he was a jinn.

Great to see Farhan Akhtar in this show. He is a Bollywood superstar. Love from India!

In an interview Iman mentioned the worse part of the filming was being on location due to the heat. Also, the final scene reminds me of Gone With the Wind when there is a crane shot to show the magnitude of troupes who are injured. This feels like an homage that reflects the magnitude of humanity impacted on that final night of transport. Stunning final moment. Transformative for her. She will never be able to look at her family p, especially Nani, the same way.

Fun reference about Canada, the main actress is herself half-canadian 👍

Another powerful episode of Ms. MARVEL. the Djinn are not always evil in mythology & lore. There's good & bad Djinn, they are in some tales God made Angel Djinn & then humans. The Djinn are made from "smokeless fire" what we would call (sun)light or energy ( no smoke) Noor means Divine light the place in the MCU is Literally a place made of Light .

when they walked into the restaurant [before the secret Red Dagger hideout] they played "Disco Deewane" and i almost screamed into the night! i cannot BEGIN to tell you how hearing some of these tracks again is just sending me! also, Nani must be protected at all costs.

Laughed hard at "My Cabbages!!" 😆

6:53 I'm a Pakistani and that's SOOOOOOO relatable 12:02 I've eaten like that hundreds of times

For the people who were wondering about the belt sword thingy, its called an Urumi, a traditional weapon which originated in the Indian subcontinent during the late 6th century BC.

My pride at my ancestors at winning WWII is absolute. But my shame as to what they did around the world is so too. Why can’t we just all accept each other 🙁

With Kamala going back in time... will she be the one that saves her grandmother and gets her back on the train? Also, is this the strongest 4 consecutive episodes of any of the marvel disney+ shows? I think it might be. Such a great show so far.

I'm really interested to see how this idea of overlapping dimensions and destructive borders carries forward - it's a really interesting way to connect her powers to her family history.

I just realized that Ego referred to his power as “the light”

As a brown/pakistani/indian person this video made me feel really recognized and represented. I've grown up in areas like that

Almost every penultimate episode of a marvel Disney plus show is a flashback/depressing episode. So Episode 5 is probably going to show us the backstory of Kamala's great grandma and the bangle. I think Aisha was killed by the Najma. Or not

Thank you as always for these fun reaction videos! I was super sad earlier & watching you guys made me smile so much!

kamala collecting boys like infinity stones She's gotta be a reverse harem protagonist at this point😂

I actually did learn about it in World History in high school in the late 80's. It's sad what they don't teach in public schools now a days.

and the fact the Indian Partition is considered the worst refugee crisis in history they estimate between 10 and 20 million people were displaced and between 200 thousand to 2 million died

@Adamhlavac, I think you missed the conversation with Kamala and Waleed, where he tells her that Djinn can be anything that's alien to the culture. He quite clearly says that if Thor had first landed in the Himalayas he would have been called a Djinn. Kamala isn't a Djinn, she's just called that. She is of the Noor dimension. 😊

That last scene gave me chills. So many families separated to this day. And that doesn’t even begin to cover the atrocities!

That last scene was heartbreaking. I am residing and working among Pakistani and Indian nationals, and watching Ms. Marvel helps me to learn what they went through the Partition. Much respect.

I love the actor Aramis Knight (Kareem) (Into the Badlands). An actor that already had lots of martial arts training!

Having learned and read about the Partition, the last part really made me emotional, although I am not a native of Pakistan or India. Also, hearing Partition stories from natives added to that heaviness of that scene. Those short lines by the actors in the station made it even sadder.

Incredibly entertaining show. Yeah we should be pretty sure KK went through a time-changing portal. Next episode is going to answer so many questions for us. I love Ms Marvel and I am truly happy what they did with the show. Iman Vellani is a STAR.

It seems like the concept of postmemory is at play here - it's connected to trauma studies and intergenerational trauma, where the lines blur between the present and past self as well as the self and ancestors. Maybe as the continuation of the hopes and dreams of her great-grandmother, she'll save (redeem, make proud, etc.) her grandmother in the past.

That last scene was amazing! Reminded me of the scene of Atlanta burning in Gone With the Wind: a historic movement that was given the full gravitas and the proper scope of scale of what it was like. Especially since Partition isn’t something really discussed in Western media. Bravo!

This makes so much sense! If Kamala really traveled back in time, then she’s the one that creates the ‘path of starlight’ that her Nani uses to find her father on the train.

I went to school in rural Oklahoma. Graduating class of 30 students. Middle of flyover country and we definitely learned about the partition.

my grandfather when coming to Karachi, he had 7 brothers and parents, he lost all of them and then was adopted by someone else, whenver he'd tell me that it was so sad, i miss him he's passed now, may God give him paradise, ameen!

That partition scene. It gave me goosebumps.

I really liked this episode, I think it’s my favorite so far. I really loved the family moments and the connections. I also love the red daggers, especially Kareem. I think he and Kamala might have sum for each other… I also loved Waleed, I was so sad that he died, he was a great character. I loved the fight scenes, it seems like Kamala is starting to understand her powers more and being able to control them better.

The belt-whip is called an aara and is one of the coolest weapons I've seen.

I guess, since she travelled back on the day during Partition and that little girl and her mother talked about boarding on the last train, this is going to be like Back to the Future kind of situation. Kamala will be the one to guide her grand mother to her father using her powers.

Theory: Kamala has traveled back in time, and she will be the one who gives her younger grandmother the path of light to follow from her father's stories. She is part of a fixed time loop.🤯

the grandmother is a really popular pakistani drama actress and so is the great grand mother ayesha, she's also a pakistani drama actress .. along with the great grandfather, ayesha's husband who they haven't shown properly yet

Part of me feels like the Noor dimension is like a kree prison or detention center that's been made into a home by its people. kind of like the kryptonian phantom zone. might be a reach but honestly i got faith in marvel. next episode is going to be the saddest and most heartbreaking, by far

With due respect , I'd like to address something here. 🙏 British leaved us in a mess but they didn't just freely divide Indian Subcontinent (not a state then). Infact Indian subcontinent itself was never a thing, it only became a a thing under borders defined by British. We, Muslims minority in India struggled to get a separate Independent state for ourselves i.e. Pakistan. Cause there was an extremist Supremacist ideology of racial purity (RSS), taking flight in India and that's exactly those Muslims in India were escaping from in trains and caravans, Muslim genocide by the majority extremist Hindus. Here's a catch, Gandhi himself was a victim of the same ideology for being soft on Muslims. Just read the final speech of the person who murdered him and is cherished as a hero millions of Indians. And to prove this extremism all you need to do is search the state of Muslims in "current" India, Muslim lynchings almost every week. They are living as second class citizens. Yes, the British messed us up and with bowing seeds of enmity like an unsettled Kashmir. And also look up Kashmir, they are as persecuted a community as Palestinians but since India is a market of over a Billion for west, you seldom see that on mainstream media. And I am not hate preaching against Hindus, I am just stating simple facts. There are sane hindus. But right now BJP and RSS' fascist ideology has taken over India. What happened on 27th Feb 2019 and our ex-PM's (Imran Khan's) repititive approach for dialogue has been brushed aside over and over. As for a history class on Kashmir and Hitler esque racial fascism in India just listen to Imran Khan's UN speech 2019 and then double check all of it via unbiased sources. Just dig out the figures of Kashmiri Muslims murdered by Indian state in last 30 years, its around 100k ffs. Honestly if they were gonna whitewash all of that they'd have better not dig into partition philosophy. Apart from this historical inaccuracy to cater to a huge Indian audience, I am loving everything about the show. The Pakistani/Muslim representation is the most genuine I have seen in Hollywood ever, and I am a big Hollywood nerd.

I love the history behind all of this. As someone raised in America, I had never heard about but always wondered about the rift between India and Pakistan. This show is amazing at giving people a look at cultures and history that a lot of people otherwise would know nothing about. This is easily my favorite Marvel show yet.

The more I watch this show, the more I fall in love with everyone and everything. As someone who doesn't follow the Muslim religion and is new to watching the Pakistani experience, this show (much like Moon Knight) has opened my eyes to a different way of life than I expected. Basically, it's a new and old realm of the MCU that I'm watching unfold in front of my eyes. The acting is, dare I say, God-tier. Plus, the revelations throughout this episode shocked me. The cosmology surrounding the bangle and the Noor dimension is fascinating. Plus, seeing the MCU version of the Partition was sad to watch. I genuinely have no idea what is in store for the last 2 episodes of the show.

Sup guys! Just binged your recap of this show after seeing a Reddit suggestion. Firstly - subscribed. Secondly, there’s so much love and attention to this show! And I totally love that you guys love it too! Hector, man you want to check out Lahore, let me know. Having been born and raised in the States and the moved over there for school, there parts of the “Pakistani-American” culture that I’ve missed. But it’s nice to see them come back to the roots and entrench themselves in typical conversations I have with my family and friends. The amount of history that took place during Partition could fill hundreds of libraries, and then there was the civil war when West and East Pakistan split, the latter becoming Bangladesh. It’s not easy to rediscover some of this history, but I swear it would make for compelling reading. Additionally, literally before the show came out I theorized that Kamala could consider the powers to be of Djinn origin, since that’s like the Pakistani go-to for supernatural situations. Heck, a lot of brown folks have Djinn stories (I have a Djinn story). Long and short, Djinn can be good or bad. Islamically, instead of a fallen angel, Ibliss (aka Shaytan aka Satan) is a Djinn, one who was highly exalted before his fall from grace, as an example. By the literature they live on a different plane of existence but can choose to be seen in our reality (hence the name, Unseen). But they could assume the appearance of humans, and even live in this reality and have families with humans. It’s really interesting how they wove that cultural aspect into the show. Speaking of culture, Pakistani-American, Muslim American, and Pakistani cultures are each getting a chance to shine, and I’m here for it. Music and set dressing has been on point (even though they went to Thailand for filming abroad, according to something Iman said). I think South Asian and Latin food could jive together really well - in fact I think there’s like a Spanish version of a Donor Kebab. But I’m excited to see how you guys like the rest of the show and how it plays out. Cheers to you guys✌️

He said “Cinturron,” in Dominican that would be “La Correa” para la pela!!! Great job guys, true Hispanics USA born. It’s funny how this series is sooooo much like Latino heritage.

RIP Mr. Sinturon, he would have made a great dad I can't take Kamran's mom as a villain seriously, she's like a raging Illuminauntie lol

As a Pakistani my Grandmother told me the situation of the partition she was 12 years old at that time and she witnessed that horrible time she used to tell me the trains were full of blood .1947 would be the nightmare of our grandmother's and father's( India and Pakistan)

I thought Hector was gonna sing "Secret Tunnel", considering what shirt he's wearing

Important distinction, she is not a djinn. The thor comment is basically similar to the "magic is just science we dont understand yet", essentially they dont know what they are so use religious/cultural beliefs to label her as a djinn. And yes, djinn are similar to humans in that there are good and bad ones, but importantly djinns are something we as Muslims believe in and they are not visible to humans, Also Muslim people (her community) asking for help from a djinn would be very problematic.

My city karachi is in MCU They really shoot some scenes there. I am really happy.

It’s interesting how the show has taken a darker turn from the tone of the first episode

In Islamic and pre-Islamic mythology Jinn are neither innately evil nor innately good. They have free will like humans and are accountable for their deeds. So seeing as these clandestines have been exiled from the Noor dimension it stands to reason that they were exiled by the good clandestines in that dimension. And maybe Aisha is one of the good ones.

Waleed is played by very famous Indian Bollywood actor called Farhan Akhtar...he's an award winning writer, actor, director and singer...its sad that they only gave him a cameo for exposition instead of giving any significant role

@ 6:55 is literally a Trinidadian giving directions lmaooo

You guys crack me up! Love watching y'all. Thanks for what you bring to the internet.

I am loving this series. One thing I don't know if you guys picked up on in regards to the Djinn discussion. Waleed was saying earlier in the episode that Kamala wasn't a literal Djinn as would be described in Islamic texts. He was saying that people in his culture would use the word Djinn as a term to label someone who is unusual or with unexplained abilities. The example he gave was Thor showing up in the Himilayas would be called a Djinn. Another example I heard from Neebz over at "Salaam Nerds", who is a Pakistani American man. He said that his mother jokingly calls David Blaine a Djinn because of his "magic". I think the same thing is happening with the Clandestines and Aisha's family line. Najima even said in Episode three that they have been called many names over the years. I think we'll get an official name for them by the end. Perhaps Aisha will tell Kamala. Maybe they are related to the Kree somehow. A Kree was certainly wearing the bangle before. Hopefully we get some answers next week.

Story is interesting as always. Asian culture/history in MCU make me excite everytime. But what the most exciting for me is the fact that This episode film in my country (Thailand). Nani's house and train station is the two place that I recognize instantly. I hope one day Marvel have super hero that descent from THAI.

11/10 episode, fucking awesome episode

That's a lot of FANTA!!! Damn do I love Yous Guys!! 🤣👍

Djinn are individuals, most are bad, but they do have autonomy over their existence. So like humans they have a Choice.

6:12 Hector those are called "Pani puri" or "Gol Gabba" Do try it out, it should be available in some Indian restaurant there

Farhan akhtar is such a great actor I love him in Zindagi na milegi dobara that's such a fun movie

Almost all of the general Jersey streets is downtown Atl. Most of Karachi is actually Thailand! Some of next episode's partition 1947 is Thailand and some is actually just outside of Atlanta! Edit: Oh, and the place where they end the fight right before they go to 1947... that was a set created inside an abandoned mall- the same mall used as Starcourt Mall in Stranger Things!

Those daggers from both shows are called Kunai. They're balanced for throwing and knife fighting.

Also absolutely love your reaction videos, I watch religiously weekly. Thank you and keep up the amazing videos.

Luckily the focus was still a lot on the family, the extended family in this case. I think nani is amazing, she's so gentle and pensieve. That crowd scene at the end really shows the scale of the situation

I'm not Indian nor do I have a petition story, but that scene where the father is giving his son all his money to flee and telling him that he's too old to travel reminded me of my grandmothers story where her father gave her and her little brother all their money to flee away from the Philippines while he stayed and fought the Japanese when they invaded in WW2. I couldn't watch the rest cause I was so busy crying and I miss my grandmother

the Partition was one of the most traumatic events in our history. all of this happened to our, every Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani grandparents or great-grandparents. all of us carry that pain and trauma inside of us. The British just up and decided to divide our country based on religion! all these years later, we are still suffering from it. the moment I saw Kamala on the train tracks, something inside me moved. i'm shaken to my core. this show is fantastic

Careful Adam. If you drown Agustin in the bacta tank he will come back more powerful than you can ever imagine.

I believe the guy has a flexible sword, very popular in south Asia.

The first song in the opening of the show is Summer Nights (feat. Wisechild) - RAAGINDER and it is amazing.

It's not in this RU-vid video, but as I was watching the show last night, when the guy on the street gave Kamala the Polaroid picture (and tries to sell it to her), I immediately got vibes from Sarah Connor in The Terminator (when the Mexican kid gives her the picture)...then moments later the Red Dagger kid told Kamala "Come with me if you want to live!" lol Immediate payoff! Looks like the writers are fans of The Terminator. I also agree with you guys that each episode is just getting better and better! Keep it up, homies!

I had never heard of "the Partition". These stories need to be told. This is as important as seeing the black wall street massacre in HBO's Watchman.

Ms. Marvel could be subtitled “Call Your Mother”. But seriously….call your mother! 😉

I was thinking about which character they could use to get into hispanic culture. I know Echo is getting her show but I don't expect much of a cultural experience there. White Tiger? Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider? As far as this episode goes, I love how Kamala is slowly leveling up and building her character/gear. It's terrifying to know that the real Partition was just like they showed, but with people killing each other for the spots on the trains 😩

Well most of the scenes where she's home is Atlanta. Specifically downtown Atlanta. Also. I think since she's back in time, she'll be the one who will walk her grandmother to her great grandfather

by the way they didnt shoot this show in Karanchi...they shot it in Thailand

Kamala was eating "pani puri" which can be spicy (puff pastries with spicy masala water in them). I call them them water bombs myself. They taste amazing.

The real Karachi establishing shots are stock / shot there, but actors in the streets / train station / Nana’s home were shot here in Bangkok

I love the "trick treat" bit

THE GRANDMOTHER!!!!!! Kamala is the one the rescues her as a child!!!

Wait, if Kamala time traveled (not just a flashback), was she the one to help her Nani with the trail of stars? Very timey wimey.

The fact that the person Aisha took the bangle off of was blue still makes me wonder... Also, Kamala only has one bangle she wears in the comics.

16:24 I believe that's a whip sword.

If she has actually time traveled, I think they are going to go with a Predestination Paradox and Kamala will be the one to lead her Nani to her father.