MSI B650I Edge... Zen 4 Mini ITX for the rest of us? 

Definitely noticed all of the cycling and MTB t-shirts. Love it. Also the motherboard content is excellent, well done.

Just finished assembling this board with 7800X3D amd 7900XT. I'm very satisfied with it. However, I'm getting a replacement board tomorrow because the BIOS settings will reset the moment i unplug it from the wall. Looking through the MSI forums, it's suspected to be a drained CMOS battery due to the protruded CMOS reset button being constantly pushed in it's packaging. Unfortunately, the shop says they can't replace just the CMOS battery as it will void the factory warranty. Hope the replacement board have a good CMOS battery.

I love the shadows from a wall of fans in the intro.

One more weird thing regarding the tall clear CMOS button, from the MSI forum, seems like a number of users for this board (including myself) ended up with the button cell battery being depleted due to the clear cmos button being repeated pressed during shipping (there's an imprint of that button inside the box). This seems to result in the motherboard losing all settings the when shut down (kept losing my XMP settings) and seems to cause the memory to be retrained every time the system is started up form shutdown, leading to a unusually long startup time.

I just got this for a new 7700x. Wasn’t sure I made the right choice though? Thanks for the review!

Hello - I have been following your channel for a while, and I love the relaxed yet informative style you have got going :) I had a question, perhaps you no longer have this board, but if you do it might spawn another video :) Apparently External Clocking is something useful on AM5, especially with X3D CPU's - as it allows for better overclocking; My question is, can you check/confirm whether eclk works on the MSI ITX board, according to MSI's BIOS guide it is enabled, but that's a generic guide for all AM5 boards... Thanks in advance!

I must admit...the AMD matx & itx boards made by MSI were always lacking in certain areas BUT have always provided you the essential things needed on the motherboard without going crazy with the bling-bling features. Although I am more of a MSI gpu fan, I would not hesitate to buy this board if the Gigabyte B650i was not available to purchase. Remember the EVGA & XFX 750i sli motherboards? This MSI B650i makes me think of those 750i SLI motherboards. Those were some awesome mobos back in the day...rock solid😁

Nice shirt, Transition makes some killer bikes!

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Awesome! I'm back here again after a year. So i was wondering, i see a lot sales going on now, is now a good time to upgrade and what should we upgrade to future proof it? What's the most moderate performance but good value spec now days? It's an awkward time since there's two totally diff socket era, DDR4 vs DDR5 and graphic card pcie demands Thanks!

Damn today was out part hunting and was only just realzing that there actually probably arent many itx boards at all for the new 7000 gen and then this video comes out 16 minutes ago!

Thanks for the review. No temperature probe is a shame.

Great Review! Would you still reccomend this MB? Any issues?

I am using this board right now, it took me weeks to finally decide to go with it. I am also a user of the MSI B550itx, and the thing I hated it the most was the non-standard AM4 back plate. Luckily this time they decided to go with the standard AM5 black plate, the last gen was very restrictive when it comes to cpu blcok choices.

3:53 with the latest 132 BIOS this board now supports 48 GB memory modules, so the limit should be 96 GB now. Also they fixed win 11 sleep mode with that BIOS. Before that release sleep mode wasn't active, there wasn't even an option for that in Windows. This version is still in beta though, but it is a recommended one, since it fixes am5 excessive voltage issue.

GIGABYTE B650I AORUS Ultra seems to be cheaper and have better IO and software features. I also like that the Gigabyte has a USB C 10G with DisplayPort, as well as an HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4. It could come in handy for hybrid graphics, virtualization, and potential APU options in the future. Gigabyte also has more USB ports and one more M.2 slot in addition to more SATA. Both MSI and AsRock dropped the ball with display connectivity considering every AM5 CPU has an integrated GPU which is ideal for multiple monitor productivity setups, with powerful APU options in the pipeline. A single HDMI port is not enough for a serious computer. Just imagine the tiny powerful mini PCs that will be built after AMD releases their APUs. MSI seems to have cheaped out in other areas too. There is no backplate. Gigabyte includes one.

Came in clutch

Just realized my b650e-i strix has a dead aio_pump header. Bad solder on the 12v pin. It's still within the return window and the only other board my local store has is this but I see so many people complaining about dead battery issue 😡. Also it's only $15 cheaper here with far lower specs vs the b650e-i.

So, you reckon the "Flash BIOS button" method is the best way to update the BIOS?

If I built an AM5 system, it would either be this board or probably the Asrock Phantom b650 itx. I need a spdif for my flight sim headset with the head tracker, and the asrock has that feature. I've been using the b550 edge from msi for a couple years now, with no complaints. Not sure why they took off the spdif for this version, but it probably cost them a sale from me.

Is it possible to run this board safely when disabling that chip set fan? Is that chip set cooler on this that bad, that disabling that cooler is unsafe?

Good review cheers. Does the SSD fan even need to be on? I was half inclined to unplug the fan entirely but decided against it (for now). Haven't ever seen the SSD get all that hot, around 50 degrees maybe max off memory..

I believe with bios updates this board should support more than 64GB of DDR5. With currently available 48GB sticks it should support 96GB total, and perhaps more if/when higher density sticks become available. I believe my Asus ITX board already has a bios that supports the 48GB sticks.

In your opinion, how does this msi board compare to Gigabyte's b650i aorus ultra? I personally recently got the Gigabyte B650i Aorus Ultra, it feels similar to the msi board. I am also affected by the longer post times at boot, but having 3x m.2 slots (one is pcie5) is nice. I have my board also in an nr200 with a c14s cooler. Unfortunately, I don't think I can fit both 120mmx25 fans at the top of the case, but I might try a couple of thin profile fans if I find that I need to assist with pulling air out of the case.

awesome review. Solid coverage. Yup $289 is a chunkocash for a marginal IO. I have a B550I Aorus AX and went 5800X3D instead of going B650 ITX with 7800X3D. The MSFS 2020 VR FPs is 8 FPs difference and not worth the additional $450-500. I'm waiting to 8000 series 3D and motherboards that actually offer value!

Presente t elle du coil wine comme la rog strix b650e-i de chez asus ?

Prices are all over the place for these boards. In the UK at the moment, cheapest I can find this board is £230. The ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING is £239. I reckon the Asus is worth the extra £9.

Please link your playlist on the next one.

Sadly its a year later and MSI still hasn't made a B650E ITX board (actually no new ITX boards have appeared, its slim pickings) I don't have issues with PCIe 4.0 for the M.2, but I am concerned with only having a PCIe 4.0 expansion slot and future graphics cards. Most likely the 5060 will cut lanes just like the 4060 did, not a problem if down to 8 but with 5.0 having so much bandwidth additional cost savings might be had and its chopped to 4. (there was 4.0 cards that only had 4 lanes so with 5.0's bandwidth there is a high chance more cards will only have 4 lanes)

I have been running this with a 7950x + 4090. Its decent for now. One thing bothers me is boot sequence. The dram (yellow) is always on for like 10-20sec and then it boots up. I tried overclocking my RAM from 5600 to 6000 (there's an Auto setting) and the things was stuck, the LED debug was on for like solid 20min. I just had to use the clear CMOS and then it booted up. It maybe the RAM I am using but still it very annoying, specially coming from am4 boot speed. The Gigabyte B650i itx, I find is a superior one. But its not available outside Americas. Oh and I just manually put the m.2 fan in its lowest fan speed and its all good. Going above 1300rpm the sound it makes it already very load.

Hello, has anyone got an issue with the small mobo fan running at 100% ?? Is it possible to adjust this fan. The noise it makes is pretty awful??

Did you test AMD EXPO on this board? I bought the Gigabyte B650I and it is stable at JEDEC but EXPO is not stable - memtest errors, bsod. So I am considering this instead.

Looking at the chipset, the only shame of the A620 is that you can't undervolt it to spend less power and still have very similar performance.

Mine came with a dead rear nvme drive, and a dead cmos battery I saw in forums that the dead cmos is common, since the button is raised, it's constantly pressed in the shipping box. Honestly the packaging on this board is a joke. I got a Rog strix B650E-I after which just destroys this board in terms of quality and features.

Do you have to a cpu in the board to update the bios?

The high CPU socket position is the most annoying aspect of this board. Makes certain coolers incompatible like using a IS-55 in a Fractal Ridge. The high position will work against you in cases like the Ridge and Terra that positions the motherboard upside down, in reality this moves the socket to the bottom of the board and heat gets trapped at the top of the case or middle in the Ridge.

Im running it with 7800x3d and RTX 3080 working perfectly

Here in australia I can get this board for $344 aud, while the gigabyte is more like $500

Can you please give me your opinion on b650e asrock riptide motherboard.

In the UK, Gigabyte is cheaper and afaik, has 3x M.2 slots (2 on the CPU and 1 on the chipset) one is gen 5. ASRock is also close in price and is gen 5 compatible with more USB and SPDIF. Unfortunatley Gigabyte ITX is only offered through USA retailers to the UK and after checking with Gigabyte UK, they will not covere RMA or warranty. Count yourself lucky in North America. Personally I'd pick a gen 5 compatible mobo as I would only be buying into the AM5 ecosytem so I can upgrade in 3-4 years and that additional gen 5 headroom could be a real telling point in future gaming.

could this be a good choice for ryzen 7950x + rtx 4090?

For that price, get the Asus b650e-i. Current Asus issues aside, its a superior board for cheaper.

For Intel, there is a way to shorten boot time on z690i?

As of April 6, no PCI-E 5 graphics boards exist. Hard to justify paying for a B650e motherboard.

Is it OK if I run a 7950x3d on it, or I should be looking for x670?

AM5 is still a really poor value proposition. Cpu prices well over AM4 equivalents, bloated motherboard prices and the DDR5 premium. Maybe in another year things may be different.

Wat if I slapped a 7900x or 7950x on this motherboard in the same case for just gaming is it doable?

Whenever I move my pc to connect a usb cable I reset the CMOS on this board. 😂

240€ here in the EU. For a rather barebone board with a chipset that's barely above A620. Asking anything over 150€ feels like an insult to life itself. Sticking with my B550 5900x sff build for the foreseeable future. It's more than enough to keep the 4080 (speaking of wildly overpriced things) busy.

Looks like Zen 4 boards are still ridiculously priced...

The reviews on the store sights was horrible, even the 5 star reviews are giving you a troubleshooting guide. doesn't seem worth it for 300 for just better wifi and extra m.2 over a 5800x3d and a used B550 with no annoying fan.

B650 boards this gen have been $$$$ and lacking in choice.

I like MSI's products but the garbage dragon logos all over the place make it a hard pass. Wish they would ditch the "2000" product design and just do simple, clean lines

These small fans are very...very...disgusting?..I dunno it just proves that some things need improving in thermal efficiency...whether that SSD or chipset or whatever.

this is most horroble mb in the world

Has anyone had any hard time running Expo on 6400mhz kit?