When you’re thinking of buying a tent as I am that’s the kind of video you really want to see. How does it perform in adverse conditions. Great job, thanks.
Fully agree. There are 40000000000 hubba hubba videos on YT all put up in the sun with no wind or rain. Any fool can do that. I need to know how it handles in the rough. Thanks for this vid
That is one of THE most useful tent videos I have ever seen- Thank You. I definitely want to see a tent put up in adverse conditions BEFORE I buy it and do it myself. Great demonstration showing the rotation and the effects on the front of the tent as opposed to having the wind on the backside. Very useful demo- thank you.
Thanks for the excellent content! I have a hubba hubba nx2 and am totally impressed. I've had the tent in some extreme weather situations and it has never failed me. Best Always.....Bob V
Great real world test on positioning the tent too. Its all well hearing all about it but its nice to actually see the diff and it seemed to be a big diff.
As soon as you said 14:21 mins in you were up for turning the tent around in the wind...... I subscribed! 😀 Best belly laugh in ages watching the pole bag creeping away and camera blowing over Bake-off style! 😄 but useful. I'm a newbie (in my middle aged '2nd youth'!) trawling RU-vid for tips and inspiration before that 1st backpack camp without my car and loved this having only done safety of local campsites so far but nearly ready to go for it!!
Fantastic video, thanks! This was super helpful, because I have just won the 2022 hubba hubba 2p tent, and I have been watching reviews of it. I am so grateful for winning it! Along with the MSR pocket rocket deluxe stove! 🥰🏕️🏞️ Much respect, from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Just stumbled across this video. I’ve owned a Hubba Hubba for a few years and am very pleased with its durability. Excellent work in difficult conditions! Would like to see you attempt to erect the inner tent during similar (rainier?) conditions. I’ve luckily not needed to do that on my trips (yet), but would love to see a demonstration of that prior to a real world situation. Hats off to you, mate!
Yup! I tried pitching this up in my backyard with some 30mph wind last week, and doable with 1 person (yours truly) setting it up! Didn’t get blown away and still standing up the next morning 😝 the next night I tried to sleep inside, still quite gusty and so it was quite noisy inside! A bit scary watching the top of the rain fly blowing in the wind, so for my backpacking trip I’ll bring earplugs I think 😅
I'm convinced, thank you! Was contemplating between the MSR Hubba NX1 and NEMO Dragonfly. My main concern was the wind resistance, and this video settled that.
How was your experience going so far I’m actually contemplating between those two and honestly I like the design of the Nemo more but the fact that you can set this up with just the rain fly and make a quick shelter to get out of some adverse conditions has pretty much sold me on this unit
@@traviseller3770 I'm still waiting for my tent to arrive and won't be using it so soon. Recently spoke to a friend of mine who has the Hubba 3 person tent and has no problems with it in the windy Japanese mountains. I hope you'll get the model that suits your needs!
Has Robbie Williams taken up camping? LOL, great video thank you. I just purchased one and haven’t had time to test it yet, but was concerned it seemed too frail, so appreciate this test before I take it out in earnest. 👍
you could use two small lines at either end of the tent with adjustable sliding prussic knots to pull out the 2 end vents open and taught attached to the MAIN END TIE OUT GUY LINES with out using tent pegs and keeping the weight down .
good setup, i can imagine in strong winds the fly just get ripped out of your hands though unless you could attach to the ground points straight away, i like the look of the tent overall just not sure about keeping the fly on while pitching.
A few thoughts on this - I have the Hubba Hubba NX. Its a 3 season tent so hopefully, adverse conditions should be experienced less frequently but pitching an inner first tent in high wind can be very tricky. With the Hubba Hubba, there could be two people (2P tent) which makes it much easier to keep hold of the outer, but the Hubba is the same design so handling the outer is still the main problem. It is possible to keep the outer wrapped up outside in, attach it at one end (but also peg out a guy line to stop it flying away) and then roll it up and over the poles, making the top attachments as you go. As with all tents, practice pitching as much as possible, makes real life pitching more like second nature.
Wow what a windy setup! Good job. Does your footprint come with the grommets for the poles sewn in, because from what I understand the new footprints don't have grommets for the easy fast pitch option and it's stirred up a bit of controversy. I hope I can find one with the grommets.
Thanks for sharing this video. I just got my hubba so am trawling for tips. I can’t find a groundsheet for it her in Oz so am looking into making something to allow me to ‘fast fly’. How come all the MSR videos I watch are posh lads in the garden of their mansion though? Do all mansions come with a free tent?
You can buy the groundsheet from Snowys, a Brisbane based camping shop. Also check out Project Outbound’s video on pitching the Hubba Hubba in the rain. He sells the strap system he made for the video and is based in Aus.
Hi there, Is it harder to set up putting the fly on first then the inner? Its just this would be a good practice to be in. Especially being from UK like ourselves. Only 1 min away from rain. Or is it much easier to put inner up first then fly and other way should only be left for storms? Interested in opinions
Hi Evac, I see in your videos that you use different tent. I can see that you have use the hubba hubba of course, but also the Hilleberg Niak. how so you see these two tents and which do you perfer? Is the Niak worth the extra money?
Hi Martin, now I have the Niak more for winter and a Tarptent Double Rainbow Li for long distance. Hubba Hubba was also a great tent similar to the Niak inside. If I could have only 1, it would be the Double Rainbow Li, it’s my perfect tent.
Thank you for your Wind test Video. what do you do about the wind that goes through your tent? When I slept in my hubba hubba with just the food print, the wind came in and made me really cold. I did not solve this problem. Do you have any idea to get the fly more to the ground so the wind can not creep in?
I’m not sure as it is hard to tell from the video, apologies if it’s correct, but it appears the top pole across the width of the tent is the wrong way up. This should always be on top, and would affect the stability of the tent. It’s a very common mistake but according to MSR it’s designed to work better on top. Fair play to you getting out there and doing it though, well done!
@@evacoutdoors5867 That's probably the tension it requires for structural stability in the weather you had. Be interested to see a second video with comparison. Nice work all the same! 👍
Yes people have said but it’s actually irrelevant if you look at the hub. With the pole on top the hub is compressing on the pole and below in tension. Some people have been unable to attach the gromets with pole on top.
@@evacoutdoors5867 sure its up to anyones prefference.. msr instructions show it on top ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-20_oMhu1CfM.html. Great videos by the way, liked Your review on Gregory Zulu 🙂
@@evacoutdoors5867 It’s not irrelevant at all - with the cross pole at the bottom it puts a ton of load on the plastic clip, and if it snaps your tent is failing. With the cross pole on top, the pressure is loaded across the main pole - it’s ‘pushing’ not ‘pulling’ if you get what I mean. MSR don’t make this as clear as they should, and I’ve seen a ton of people make the same mistake.
This video made me really happy about my purchase of my tent...a Hilleberg Soulo. My Soulo tent has gone through about 5 times stronger winds and much more rain than what you mention and did not flex as much as that Hubba...has kept me dry, warm and sheltered everytime it has been pitched. Can't even count how many MSR, Big Agnes and other supposedly expediton level UL tents I have seen either break, torn, blown away, leaked through or their inhabitants crawling out shivering because they offer virtually no insulation with their all mesh inner tents. If you are planning on travelling in areas like in Iceland where I live, I would look at other options than that tent.
I am happy you are happy, but I live in Mallorca where the weather is good, I rarely even use my guy lines and I have a back condition, so could not lug the weight if the HS. For here the MSR is the better option. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The Hubba Hubba isn't a four season tent, moron. It also weighs much less than the Soulo. I've never heard of anybody doing the 2,650 mile Pacific Crest Trail with a Soulo or with any Hilleberg tent for that matter. Putting aside price, Hillebergs are too heavy and bulky. The MSR Hubba NX and the Big Agnes Copper Spur are the kind of tents people actually use, and they encounter all sorts of terrain and weather conditions in the course of doing the PCT. You know who I see using Hillebergs on RU-vid? For the most part, Englishmen who park their cars, walk a few miles across a soggy moor, and pitch their tent in the rain. They then drink beer. That's their wilderness experience. Sounds like a good time to me, but I daresay if they were doing a ten mile hike through the forest and gaining 3,000 feet in elevation, they'd think twice about bringing a one man tent that weighs five pounds, five ounces (2.4 kgs). And as far as the mesh in the Hubba Hubba goes...you are aware that not everybody chooses to live in a frozen wasteland and that other climates exist in the world? If it's 75 degrees Fahrenheit and there are a bunch of mosquitoes flying around, you'll appreciate the mesh in your tent. Hillebergs are good tents and if I were climbing Denali I would probably choose one, but for most hikes I think they're more trouble than they're worth.
@@profd65 so glad you found the time to comment on my remarks. True hilleberg soulo isnt lightweight but thats what sturdiness costs you. There are plenty of people choosing hillebergs for long treks, world tours on bicycles and such because of their longevity, sturdiness and versatility. This video was about the hubba hubbas ability of handling the wind which I feel in my opinion to be lacking. Also going by your comment about the right gear for the pct then there is an abundance of us made lightweight tents that are appropriate and more readily available in the local market. And the soulo is versatile enough to both keep me warm while camping on a glacier in winter or cool during summer during a fairly warm night. It also stands up to the elements much better than most tents on the market. Especially ultra lightweight tents labelled as expedition ready. And I dont mind carrying that extra weight for that versatility and peace of mind.
Why are all the Guy connections not connected to be extra stable on the tent security. It does appear that way but I could be wrong with the viewpoint I have.
@@evacoutdoors5867 I spoke to MSR in the US as I'd had mine out in high winds in the Lake District, it was ok but I just wanted to make sure I was pitching everything correctly. The first thing they asked was was cross pole above or below the main pole, mine was below and they told me the pole needs to be above. When I was next out in high wind stability was improved. There is a fella in Northern Ireland who made a RU-vid video about his hubba, he'd had issues in high winds, he contacted MSR and they told him exactly the same thing. I'll have to check through my history to see if i can find video. At the end of the day, I guess there's a limit to most things that weigh a little bit more than a bag of sugar. Great video.
@@evacoutdoors5867 thanks. how did you set up a fast fly without grommets? do you recall? I've seen people jury rig the universal by adding washers or simply tying knots now
Its not pitched in the right way. The top cross bar needs to be on top of the structure. Logically, it is than supported by it. Otherwise you get all the pressure on the connecting little loop. Of course the stability then lacks the whole design.
if you want this tent dont use it in anything over 30 mph and if you want to go out in heavy rain then fabsil the fly and seam seal the seams, remember this video is about pushing this tent to its limits do you want to take that risk in strong winds on a mountain on your own, buy a tent that goes from 30 to 100 mph if you like extreme weather.
Why comment a test when the whole tent isn't used and also in the wrong way..? The top crossed bar should be over the other one, for better stability.. Still a good test ;)
Yes many say this but with the pole on top it was so tight to attach the fly it was almost ripping.,Understanding engineering it makes no difference pole on top or bottom, it still loads the other pole on the same position exactly the same. Thanks
