DesolatorMagic has been screaming about this for literal years. The funny thing is that there is some clear bias towards certain types of decks depending on how much you are winning or loosing, not just in their "ranking" or "power", but their gameplan and chances of winning, best example being lifegain vs burn/red aggro, win too much with red mana and suddenly everyone is playing soul sisters.
@@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 Given how incompetent WotC is I have trouble believing they can actually program a system to do that. Also, I don't think AI can do it either. I've seen plenty of AI generated MtG cards and the AI doesn't understand the concept of color pie at all
@@williamdrum9899 It doesn’t take much knowledge of the colors to put something like that in. AI - or just a half decent algorithm - can very easily tell from the tens of thousands of matches played that some cards lose outright to other cards. It sees the win rate of these cards is incredibly skewed. So if you are playing card A and beating card B often, the matchmaking will slot you against card C because it knows C typically beats A. It’s effectively just playing rock paper scissors, nothing too complex.
It’s all rigged to homogenize deck lists. If you run even 1 under the “ideal” land count (38) congrats enjoy being locked at 2-3 lands every game. If you run 1 more land than “optimal” (40) then enjoy 6 land openers galore. It’s all rigged for money, once you know that it’s easy to manipulate in your favor on rare occasions. (Such as not casting Ragavan T1 because your opponent snap kept their first 7).
@@williamdrum9899 I mentioned not casting Ragavan T1 if they keep their initial 7 because they could’ve free mulled for an answer to Ragavan, but they chose not to. It’s better to try and dash him out or use other creatures to bait the removal since he’s so powerful on an empty board with no answers from the other side. if your opponent keeps their first 7 and they’re on the play, then you’re probably cooked unless you can elf or ritual out an absurd threat T1/2
@@drokhalis3338 ideal land count🤣 Only land starve or land flooded There is no in between! Can´t remember the last time i lost without lands being the main factor
Anyone who pretends there is no rigging in MTGA are either paid by WotC or have no pattern recognition whatsoever. There really isn't any other explanation.
The only time I never experienced rigging was playing my rogue Lurrus deck during Ikoria/Eldraine where everyone was basically playing like 1 of like 3 decks in high Diamond1 but mostly Yorion+Fires. The deck almost got me to mythic and after that I had to switch to a control list because of Yorion + Fires lists be so overwhelming during that time.
Is rigged as hell. I played historic ranked with colorless and 4/5 decks were either izzet RU or Boros zoo. Then...i changed to a [Glaring fleshraker] deck, and the first oponent's spell of the first 2 matches i had were [Strict Proctor]. It's unreal how BS it is sometimes.
Want to do a fun experiment. Go play historic. Make a deck that does not have green it it but drop 2 Gaia's blessings in your deck and splash it with green with one world tree or 3 Triomes with green it it. I guarantee you that in 80% of your games you'll start with one if not both Gaia's blessings in your opening hand. Gets even better, in over 50% of the games you'll get your gaia's blessing back in your had on your mulligan.
I've seen the hand smoothing in best of one do this. I mostly see it in limited when I'm trying to splash a color. The algorithm seems to ignore land types and the composition of your deck. All lands are the same to it.
Yeah I remember someone did a test of 100 opening hands and mulligans with a 60 single deck to record his findings obviously its a small sample size but he had a bunch of cards he constantly saw and a bunch he never saw. To bad for some reason alchemy enjoyers and Jim Davis just said it was bs and constantly blamed the players who recognized a pattern emerging Edit. Jim Davis is a good dude but he has really bad opinions at times when it comes to arena
@@cuttlefish6839 I run the double Gaia's blessing in the majority of my historic decks to counter the "ruin crab turn 1" fan club. I have 1000's of games to draw on and its pretty much hilarious how often at least one of them hands up in your opening hand AND gets rolled again on the mulligan.
@@a-animal1206 completely agree. And when I sense that its “my turn to lose”, I simply concede. If I am programmed to lose, im not going to waste my time
This is exactly why I quit playing arena, can't play a deck for more than one day. Play any more than that and the matchmaking puts me against anything and everything that directly countered me.
I have a folder called Decks Destroyed by Phyrexian Arena with all my homebrew decks that went like 10-0 in their first day and magically became unplayable the next session, after zero changes
I never play against Sythis when I’m queuing with teferi U/W control, only when I’m on Ragavan do I find >25% of my opponents are Sythis. I’ve learned to just instant concede before even mulligans because if the matchmaker doesn’t want you to get your 15/15 daily win yet then don’t bother in that game.
@zlkanglwrth2776 that's when it gives the opponent good hands for their deck, and it tries giving you less then optimal hands. They can't make it super obvious, or else no one would play it, even people like myself where it's the only way we can play
@jasonwolfblood9441 it's rather evident to me that at least, that most games seems to have little to no variance in how it could have played out. Or get hard countered or you hard counter someone
There should absolutely be a match rank. Just use ELO, instead of reinventing the wheel. It works for chess, it works for every competitive 1v1 sport on the planet, and it would work for Magic.
this is something that we all knew at some level. The shuffler is rigged, matchmaking is rigged and when the game doesn't want you to win, it doesn't matter what you do, you won't win period. I also suspect that a simmilar thing happens with pack openings. Since individual cards have a score, which is obviously linked to playability and therefore desirability, the packs must spit out rares/mythics with a roughly constant overall score and an element of added chance, which is why you get tons of shitty/unplayable rares for every 1 playable card.
It is even more likely to be the case with anything regarding pack opening. If it is something they directly make money from (buying of packs) it is going to be the most studied/tweaked element of the game. I’m sure if they could somehow force the 30th anniversary tokens “””deal””” into the digital game they would.
Yup I stopped playing because I noticed how rigged the shuffler was for my opening hands I played a lot of magic and understand enough about statistics to know I wasn't wrong.
@@cuttlefish6839exactly crazy how taking one land in or out determines your land pulls for you opening hand even though we all know you dont NEED to run 20+ depending on your deck
Back when zenith flare was in standard i put just enough rare cards in my zenith flare deck to only get matched up against blue/black aggro mill decks. Easiest 30 game win streak of my life.
LOL bro this is so great. We have so much proof of rigging now. They say the house always wins, but this house sure is stupid. When I started playing Arena (2021 I think), I drafted some Boros Aggro and then changed it a bit for Standard. Eventually I added some more powerful cards in and suddenly I was getting put up against wild decks. I suspected it was because I had changed my deck around, so I reverted it and voila, I was back to facing the other decks again. That's when I knew something was up with Arena. It was around that time I discovered you, Desolator and some other MTG channels talking about the rigging and showing off the weird stuff going on. Back then there were a lot more rigging deniers in the comments, but now (especially with this weighted stuff coming to light) I see loads more people talking about how corrupt and bad the Arena client is. I wonder what WotC's response will be this time :^)
It's even funnier when you play mill in historic - game starts throwing bots with 240+ cards in their deck at you, which never respond to your emotes. Switch the deck and they stop appearing altogether.
Simple answer to WoTCs response. It will be fuck and all and they will do somthing to hide the reports, like encrypt the files so only they can read them. WoTC only wants one thing, to get you to fork over 100s on digital cards they can take away in a instant by declaring Arena is being discountinued and shutting it down.
I dropped mtg entirely over the arena client being rigged against me and people bush told me it was a skill issue, look who’s laughing now. Not me, I’m still malding
43:34 To add to "things you specifically draw by the 20th card". Your fourth land when you're land screwed with 3 on the field Honorable mention to drawing your third land by the 12th draw when you have 2 on the field
I thought this was well known for months. I actually made some 250 card decks that has whole bunch of random stuff that can win games and stays 50-60% win rate. I wish my real decks wouldn't get curb stomped by perfect counters.
How is this supposed to work? For anyone that gets matched against his counter there has to be someone who gets deliberately matched against someone who he curbstomps?
@@artificialfreedom I am new to Arena but in Marvel Snap, I see people make the same claim that the game matches them against the "perfect counter", but I never see anyone say that they "perfectly counter" their opponent all the time. Seems like this should be how it works.
This shit was obvious and annoying right from the start, which is why I decided to never ever spent any money on this manipulative garbage. You pick one deck and you always play against the same deck archtypes you pick a different deck and suddenly you play against other archtypes. You never play against the thing you would hardcounter. When you get above 50% winrates your enemies always draw perfect hands etc. etc. etc. MTG Arena is pure moneygrab garbage. DO NOT BUY
I can't tell you how many times I've got an opening hand with 2 lands and don't draw another until turn 5 or 6 and by then I've lost the game. It's not even worth playing the game at that point.
you should go and bring to the court to literally all TCGs because this is not something that only happen in MTG Arena. The Algoritm is used in literally any other virtual TCG.
Yeah idk why people need to defend big corporations like this especially when this game specifically comes from yhe team who butchered origins. And also from the same company wizards who makes bad products that people constantly complain about but for some reason arena can't be bad or fishy
i make my own decks non stop.. it seems like everything i try is matched instantly with it's counter.. but that does help me make better decks.. it's not all the time but when it happens so often you see or feel there's an obvious pattern
What's sad is there is so much potential. When you know it's finally a real person on the other end and you play a real game you can tell how much fun you both had. But going against a 'real' opponent the next game who draws 3 of 4 copies of their best cards in their first 10 cards and creams you even though you had the correct cards to stop them the first time but not the 2nd and 3rd
Out of my last 2000 ranked games in standard, during a time dominated by mono red and boros, then mono white and azorious control, my most played match ups are as follows Red - 269 Black - 197 Boros - 183 White - 135 Orzhov - 119 Azourious - 115 Dimir and Golgari - 109 The other 700 match ups or so are an assortment of different decks/ colours Guess what deck i mostly play? Mono black of course. Why else would it be my 2nd most common match up when it is by far not the 2nd most common deck/colour in the meta... This is what made me fall out of love for the game, you cant create decks yourself, adapting to the meta because Arena just slaps you with a mirror match, time and time again. And im not even gonna get into the whole forced loss/win aspect of the game, that i cant prove yet firmly believe is a thing.
IT CERTAINLY HAS SOMETHING CODED, because whenever I use my main boros convoke deck I get hard matches with good decks/oponents and whenever I switch to a budget fun deck i get matches with bad opponents/decks
There's a lot more rigging going on than this. I've had several instances recently of my opponent mysteriously casting more spells than they should have drawn. As in they've literally dug 4+ cards deeper in their deck than I have, despite not playing any card draw effects. The first time I noticed it, my oppenent played 2 creatures 2 turns in a row, and I'm thinking to myself "where'd thry get all these, and why did they wait to play them?" I realize thry have 2 cards in hand, despite having 2 cards in hand the previous turn, and I'm pretty sure the turn before that. So I check their library, and they have 6 fewer cards than I do, which surprises me, since I don't recall them drawing extra cards. So I check every zone and find exactly one card that they've played thst drew them a single extra card. Needless to say, I got run over by card advantage.
I had the wildest experience, very similar to yours. Last week I updated my Arena app and decided to go play some brawl. When I drew my first card (I went second) my commander already had commander tax on it? Then when I finally played my commander (Old Rutsein a 1/4) my opponent conveniently had a spell to take out 4 damage. Next turn played my my 1/1 creature, conveniently had a -1/-1 spell. I played my Enchanted...guess what, he had enchantment destruction. With no cards in their hand, I thought ok I can play my commander again...he drew into another 4 damage spell. No other cards, just EXACTLY a counter to my cards. Next few turns I drew no lands and he was drawing PERFECT amount of lands and spells equally. His cards weren't necessarily "better" cards but at least he was able to play them unlike me. Or how about drawing a card conveniently 1 mana too expensive for how many lands I've had. Just a mess of rigging. He eventually won with just a 1/1 token that he kept buffing. All his cards were to just get rid of my very specific cards.
Arena should have the shuffler be open source code verifiable by some signature so that players can know for sure the server is running that exact code. I'm not surprised by this at all thought, it was pretty obvious.
The funny thing is, if you call this out online, you get booed. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that Arena is rigged. The difference in how well i do in person vs how poorly i do on arena is ridiculous.
I stoped playing this game because of this bs. and played just historic. If you only play with your own decks and you are not an idiot who just netdecking, You can see this in every game u playing. You are 100% right if you just add one these crazy cards to the deck, like Omnisience, and hundred of others, things start to get completely absurd, during matchmaking and during play. Mana screw or lack of needed colour will happen to you when you start to exceed 50% winrate. And hands when You hit 2 lands before and after mulligan. Or just special lands at starting hand even if You have just few of them in yours deck. I saw situations with two World Trees at my starting hands hundreds of times when i have 2 of them in my deck. I could give hundreds of examples because I find their approach unacceptable. If you have to pay over $1000 a year to complete your collection they should provide a certified RNG like poker sites do. The real problem for me is that I can't refund what I lost in this garbage game through the years :)
@@BabyFarkMcGee I knew this and still sunk a few thousand dollars into it because I'm addicted to deck building and it's the only game I play. If this game had certified RNG it would be the most fun I've had for the rest of my days.
when i heard about the drama i literally kept refreshing your page for an hour wondering when you would unload a beautiful rant. ive heard you talkin about the match riggin for years and im tickled pink that your claims have been validated
Wanted you to see the scores of sheoldred the apocalypse, the one ring, and orcish bowmasters. They are really low even though they are strong cards. Some of the list does not make sense.
"Someone" I run into once in a while uses Naturalize in his main deck when I'm using artifact decks. There were also a few times I got an opponent using The Elderspell while I was playing my Supervillains deck. (I play Bo1 mostly so there's no sideboarding ever.) I refuse to believe someone is so stupid as to use those spells, especially when there was no synergy with it - Naturalize has so many better options, and The Elderspell is a completely dead card a lot of the time. (I was in Platinum rank, also... not like I was in Bronze or Silver.)
I play standard and have a millennium calender/all will be one combo deck I use and I played a mythic opponent who had 8 pieces of individual artifact/enchantment removal in their deck with no win con. I told my wife no way someone in mythic rank is using disenchant in mythic rank. Like your removal piece has to at least be able to destroy a creature also. No freaking way someone runs that card in mythic
@@jmoney9494 Yeah, exactly what I mean. Too many really bad cards that are only good in one situation that are magically showing up in weird places. I also see the 200+ card decks that have no reason to be that big - there is no Battle of Wits on Arena. And it's mostly against either my mill decks or turbofog. And they seem to get a lot of perfect draws considering how many cards are in the deck...
@@Sauvenil the 200 card deck is the exact other thing I love. I once played a 260 card deck opponent who wanted to mill me with Jaces so a normal Jace deck has memory deluge to dig 4 to 6 cards down. He had deluge in his 260 card deck and found 3 Jaces in his first 25 cards. Like you could automatically deluge 200 cards from your deck. I run a 2 color deck and run tap lands for mana fixing and another 200 card deck was 4 colors and had no problem casting atraxa on his 5th turn like wtf
Yea…I stop playing a long time ago…Constantly getting flooded with lands, getting minimal land draws while opponents get farther and farther in getting lands, etc. starts to get old after a while.
If you went to reddit and commented that this was an issue you would be downvoted to oblivion and called a salty idiot. You said it perfect, you DO NOT need to be a genius to see that match making is rigged in so many ways.
They have multiple accounts and that is the only thing they keep eye on online. To be sure fuck everyone who sees the patterns. Horrible company and horrible people.
What makes no sense to me is, I haven't played arena in a few years, I got back recently so I have almost No standard legal cards (just from a few drafts I played), I made some garbage ass decks to play games for daily quests yet I got incessantly matched against actual constructed netdecked decks. I've played against that black hand discard shit with the bats that exile a card in your hand in like 80% of my games. I know for a fact my decks weren't that good so idk wtf is going on with the matchmaking. Also started playing a blue deck I just grabbed from online cause I couldn't be bothered to read 1200 cards to figure out what to craft, where its only interaction with opponent is counterspells, other than that my only removal is a bounce to hand--- and for a couple weeks now I'm consistently (though not All the time, just consistently enough to notice) matching against "enter the battlefield" bullshit that I can't (shouldn't) bounce. lol.
I had an Underworld Dreams decks that I had significant card draw for myself as well as the opponent. I had a match where all 4 of my Underworld Dreams were on the bottom of my deck. The last four cards to be exact. I lost by drawing myself out because it set my deck that badly.
I think this goes beyond wizards and brawl; it proves that matchmaking is being rigged in any competitive online game that uses a "skill based" matchmaking system (i.e. if Wizards is doing it then why would any other company NOT be?). Their interest is not in providing fair games that feel satisfying to play; it's to manipulate players into getting addicted to the serotonin hit of landing a "good" game.
This sucks for players like me who primarily use Arena to test out paper decks. Then I end up with decks that play completely differently in real life.
@@FunkMabassUp I def feel a difference, in paper I get unique games each time never drawing the same set of cards or same board states. In arena I consistently get specific cards and states
Eh deckweight shouldn't be in. Having a good deck is part of skill those guys will climb out of bronze and silver on deck alone leaving all the new people where they belong, at the bottom of ranked till they get good and make a decent deck.
Seems like the pile decks abuse manipulate the system better. They can stack their deck with tons of decent to good cards and somehow still draw better than a typical 60 card deck.
I noticed when I made a cycling deck in standard I only got matched against tibalts trickery decks, then I switched decks and no more TT decks, back to cycling and all TT decks. So obvious being rigged. Need a land to stabilize/win I get a tap land, what an incentive to buy lands. Playing too much red aggro (which seems to go first 95% of the time) switch to deck with lots of life gain, where did all the mono red aggro go? I could go on and on. Scum bag company, I knew from the start it had money making algos involved, but disgusting how much manipulation I've noticed, don't play it anymore.
I’ve known this. Any time I’m building a deck to test maybe to try and meta the format I’m never paired against anything remotely meta from that point on. The client will immediately pair me down against weaker opponents. It’s how a lot of content creators make the claims of “new best deck” they are paired down into lower powered decks to claim easy wins.
Two weeks ago was the epitome of MTGA rigging for me. Ran 3 Theros drafts in a row and did horribly bad. Especially the first one where even though I had exactly 50/50 mountains and plains, I could never get both colors in the same game, or when I did, only had a single white mana for the 4 or 5 cards in my deck that had 2 white pips.. which I drew all 4 or 5. With 8,9 mountains (didn't care enough to count) and a plains, I finally was able to cycle the last double white card, and I'm not even gonna tell you what I drew from that looting. It was exactly what you and I was thinking it would be. Anyways I tilted hard and uninstalled Arena. Later that week I reinstalled it. Ran a single theros draft, same 50/50 land split, this time plains and forests. Went 7-1 and land flood/screw/colors were always on point. Fuck that motherfucking fucking game.
I've noticed that if I ever play land tax. Then the next seven drawers will be nothing but lands I swear to God this is a 7 out of 10 occurrence. Nice to know it wasn't just..but the game punishing me for using a card.
The ironic thing about wotc rigging matching making, drafts, etc. Is to make the game more “enjoyable for everyone” meaning they will make more money, but when you rig things that are suppose to be random is makes ppl mad and quit Mtg.
I'm mid at a lot of things, to be fair. But, other games are using this too. ~50% win rate unless you're spending money, or are a popular content creator. These online clients have always felt vastly different to their paper counterparts.
@robertmendez8383 I vaguely remember the name. Is that one of the fully manual simulators? I should have clarified though. I'm mostly only talking about first-party clients that have paid content.
I kept track of 4 years of matches and opening hands. After finding many issues like certain cards being overwhelming dealt on opening hands. I showed how they look for decks that play to your decks weakness after a couple wins. For example when using red deck wins if I win 3-5 in a row the next few opponents are mysteriously playing life link to counter it despite cards in the deck not even being in the meta. If a deck goes on a win streak and then losses consecutive games you can switch one or two cards and hit another streak. I was a fan of and collector since 1994. Hasbro has destroyed the game by overprinting sets, not being aware of the power creep that has destroyed the game. I was excited when Arena released played non stop for 5 years despite using the same decks as streamers and pro players. I know what it takes to win and have always been in the “top 5%” of all players anytime I was about to break top 1000 mythic I loose several consecutive matches. When I sent wizards of the coast a list of these concerns and many more and told them devs are manipulating the game and it should be fixed. I was sent a message not denying it…they simply said Arena is working exactly the way devs intended. That was the last day I played arena.
@@KroyX I quit a couple months ago after I received the reply “arena is running the way the devs intended” I lost it and uninstalled the program I played religiously for years, literally thousands of games. My wife asked me to get rid of my notebooks and I didn’t see the point so I agreed. Sorry, I have been trying to pull up my complaint to show you what I provided them and the response but I am not having any luck.
Just here to comment that Gempalm Incinerator is a staple for a lot of goblin decks, deals damage to a creature equal to the number of goblins you control when you cycle it.
I'm glad you did this video because thanks to your explanations throughout your other videos we can keep up with the ways of WOTC and help us, at least me, understand that it's not that my decks are bad, or at least not as bad (mind you, I spend hours building combos around stuff like gaining life for aggro, drawing extra cards to survive longer, and trying to make my combos uncounterable or barely), but that more often than not the shuffler is playing sides and obviously going against me and my REAL odds of drawing the cards I'm supposed to draw within a certain range. In Brawl I tipically forfeit against stuff I deem unfit for a real and interesting game based on real skill, like Fynn the Fangbearer trying to win with poison counters, Ragavan stealing your deck and going fast, Tergrid/Liliana making you discard everything in your hand, or most mill decks, but that's 1 out of 6 or 7 games and sometimes I still play just to see how ducked up I am not against it, but the shuffler...
This happened to me a few years ago in unranked, why I quit MTGA: Used some blue/black card to exchange a black land with a red land (enemy was monored), suddenly he was using black spells. It was offering or something to sacrifice his red card to draw two. If it's unranked you play against bots, that have everything they need to either win or lose.
They stole this matchmaking strategy from Hearthstone. Same to be said for HS for if you went Rogue you would only play Warrior your counter, then if you wanted to beat Warrior and switched you would never play vs Warrior again and only play against your counter again. MTGO is probably not rigging there matchmaking like Arena is either. Thats why the Pros practice on Mtgo not Arena.
So, youre basically telling someone which hosts a pay2win game using proprietary non public logic are deliberately rigging the logic for their interest. It must be the first time in history. Shocked, im telling you.
Brawl has the one copy clause and it's probably better when you're training an algorithm to spot what card regularly win VS what other card, which is how you can then rig matchups.
I once gathered statistical data for over 1k games of my waste not discard deck. I can say without a doubt, that thoughtseizing specifically causes an opponent to have over a 50% chance to redraw it the following turn, eliminate the feel bad? its awful
Wotc paying some random bozo to sit at a computer and assign terrible matchups and fuck everyone over who pays money to BUILD THESE DECKS is insane, i genuinely feel like this is lawsuit worthy, not only am i pissed but im so angry for people who have been dealing with this for years, yall deserve reimbursment.
jfc i check out of mtg for a few years and suddenly mtg arena original decks has a face cam like i figured he was an AI or something what a time to be alive
Hey MTG Arena Original Decks. How about next time dont cover the whole freaking spreadsheet with your head! I mean there totally wasnt room in the top right corner where nothing import was at for most of the vid. Thanks for coming to my TEDD TALK.
Wizards has access to the information about all of our games (you hope so at least). Seems like they should be able to figure out empirically what commanders are the most powerful instead of attempting to keep this database of commander weights, especially when it doesn't look like anyone is excited about updating it.
I'm no expert but they could just auto-update based on win percentages. Although this might not work on decks that use cascade/discover as an engine since the deck is typically designed to play the same 3 cards every game and the rest are just filler
Honestly I hope they change the algorithm because I really dislike the one we have. If someone plays a sub-optimal build, they could very easily accidentally rank themselves way higher than they have any business being.
I had a deck win against Sparky 20 times in a row because I find it entertaining. Anyways, the last of that 20, I committed a total of over 30 32-bit integer overflows worth of damage to the poor spark-lady. After that, I suddenly started to lose every game against Sparky. I'm absolutely not kidding. Every time, Sparky would have precisely what was necessary to end my game and I wouldn't even be able to draw any number of half of my deck that could solve the problem. If it required two removals, she had both. I don't mind if it was a known fact that games are manipulated, but the idea that they literally hold "all the cards" in this discussion is incredibly obnoxious.
but how come that all lands, cruxias + the 6 mana card that captures all the mountains, + the 1 mana card that sacrifices it, is not asking for validation?
i play MTGA 3 years now , i had hints that something is weird regarding match-making when i play my " main " decks . I was 100% sure that its rigged when i l2p , and noticed that my main deck was going vs red agroo/white control , and once i create a new deck that is ALMOST the same with like 6 dif card for the first 2-3 days i meet totaly new deck enemies, like soldiers , golgari , green/white etc etc...3d day it goes again to mono black/red/control . then again new deck random enemies..... its hilarius..i atually abused it 2 ladders to get gold rly rly fast ...after 2 days i was creating a new deck to have easy enemies .
Wait wait wait wait Is THIS (13:55) why I get "random" match survey questions? When I either GET steam rolled or the off chance I steam roll someone? I play a lot of "Voltron" Mono White - and have noticed some really weird "draw" patterns and starting hands lately. Even mulligan draws. Then I'll get a survey popping up asking "Did you enjoy this match" if I get rolled on a bad hand I didn't mulligan.
Honestly, I’m more curious if there’s any data for paid vs free-to-play players regarding match ups. As in not necessarily getting rewarded for spending money on the game but specifically if you don’t spend money do you get thrown into a bad matchups queue etc.
I gave up on BO1. I was on a huge losing streak for some of the stupidest games ever (did not feel like skilled losses). Went to BO3 and lost nearly every first game, but won nearly all the BO3s. Guess when you don't have hand smoothing, the person who plays the better game tends to win
If i had to guess this was probably the solution they came up with to people who would just concede 100 matches in a row at the start of a season and then get matched with people playing starter decks to grind to mythic on the first day of the month. I haven't played in a few years so I don't know what the matching is like today but back when I played I would get matched against meta aggro decks with my no-rares anti-aggro deck I liked to play so this has to be a relatively recent addition. Still a dumb way to do matchmaking but it's WoTC what do you expect.
Algorithms have been known since Arenas inception. I'm waiting for the breach of contract class action for selling us something we can't use for it's intended purpose. I know a lot of it is f2p, but if anyone has spent more than $0 on anything, then there is a vendor-customer relationship with obligations
At the end of the day, randomness can never come from a computer, there needs to be an external source of randomness like the date & time or Cloudflare's live feed of 80 lava lamps
And I JUST downloaded MTG Arena, like, 3 or 4 days ago. This video makes me question if I should bother putting anymore time or effort into it. Does MTG Online have this problem as well?
My question is, why is it always ME getting fucked over?? Why does a deck that got me all the way to platinum suddenly have a 1/10 win rate? Is it because I’m not paying them money? Like what the fuck
Thats why i unistalled arena years ago, when i started to learn about statisdical distributions by myself because of my job. You dont build around math, you build around this shit. I only watch mtg videos because the guy playing is funny ❤
Something worse is happening now. I play against heist and I get only lands... heist is taking cards and manipulating probability of take any magics ...
My games crash every time i play Koma. I have tested it many times and i have removed it from my decks so i can still play. This is the reason i prefer to play paper magic because i have pure common decks that stomp just as good as my spendy decks. I use Areana to scratch that magic itch while i am at work (i work 3 weeks on 3 weeks off remotely in oilfield).
I been telling everyone this shit for years the game is and has been rigged ... C'mon now doesn't take a genius to know all this it's truly disgusting..the amount ot sheer idiots that comment on my comments and tell me I'm wrong is mind boggling....I made it to mythic with a starter deck..let that sink in glad i never spent a penny to support thie garbage
@OdinRiseWolfyea man I've been playing paper magic since 1995 when this came out I knew right off the bat it's insanely rigged and I'm glad it's starting to show it's ugly face
This is exactly what i was starting to think was happening. Ive hit mythic every month for a while now but this month i literally cant even get past platnium. Granted i would probably get past if i grinded everyday but every match this month feels like its the exact counter to what im playing, and every match feels like im fighting a mega pro with incredible luck. Just figured it was a weird meta this month or something at first.
