No Ban List Commander | Commander Clash S16 E21

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@JamesCooley-q8b 3 месяца назад

I think Tomer has assembled Kaldra more times than Richard has ramped with Cartographers Hawk...

@gregprice4834 3 месяца назад

I think that is factual

@michaelcho6484 3 месяца назад

Please make this top comment so Richard can read it next week XD

@jackl8025 3 месяца назад

@@michaelcho6484 that's only comments on the podcast videos

@rnew1496 3 месяца назад

@@jackl8025still hope he sees it and finds humor in it

@savinobalducci6148 3 месяца назад

I don't think that's true but it's fun anyway 😂

@brendanpulsford 3 месяца назад

Phil untapping with 6 mana and two cards on t2 is the most Phil thing. I love it!

@MoikHorst 3 месяца назад

its like me if i play "burgening" ^^

@dannyboy1200 3 месяца назад

Sometimes I feel bad for him because it feels like the others tend to gang up on him. Shit like this explains why they do lol.

@paulomattos5876 10 дней назад

This is basically marking an X on its own head

@havendell 3 месяца назад

Crim: "Can anyone do anything about Prime time?" Phil: "I could... try to copy it?" Sheldon, from beyond the grave: *Gestures at board, gives stern look.*

@Ragwar 3 месяца назад

Best comment yet!!

@DieJG 3 месяца назад

I need a t-shirt that says "SHELDON WAS RIGHT"

@NoChillCC 3 месяца назад

Holy cow this made me cringe

@allnightgamer792 3 месяца назад

Crim: You'll get a Howling mine trigger, and a Dictate of Kruhpix trigger Phil: Can I draw for them? Crim: Definitely not! It's so hard watching those two play because I can't decide who I'm rooting for more in these situations

@witchcraft2264 3 месяца назад

Same! They're definitely my favorite personalities on the goldfish channel

@silverhellfire 3 месяца назад

FWIW, Fastbond doesn't deal you damage when you play an extra land with it, just whenever you play more than your first land. So even if you have exploration, the land drop for exploration still would deal you damage.

@chris-m1g5r 3 месяца назад

@@RyanEglitis *Would. "Whenever you play a land, if it wasn’t the first land you played this turn, Fastbond deals 1 damage to you"

@klashslash6919 Месяц назад

Huh... I was looking for this!

@BoardWiped 3 месяца назад

Sundering Titan and Recurring Nightmare really showing why they're banned, we love to see it.

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

I didn't even win though.

@eon2330 3 месяца назад

@@MTGGoldfishCommander good. Keep it that way... (they are banned because of all the copy and return spells not because the person played it actually won, but because you can't play after it comes down well when its normally legal).

@atk9989 3 месяца назад

@@eon2330right, imagine sundering titan in a blink deck getting the effect 2-5 times in a single turn.

@phyrexian_dude4645 3 месяца назад

@@atk9989 I dont need to imagine it, i LIVED thru it... it was on artifact resurrection but the same idea still apply. in fact, Sundering Titan has become EVEN better with all the artifact support and functional blink decks after its banning. Sylvan Primordial was its second comming too.

@Trivedi_Tuesdays 3 месяца назад

Yall soft af and it shows

@Queuexdodge 3 месяца назад

you will never understand why prophet of kruphix is banned until all 4 players are running it.

@davidrosenberg9615 3 месяца назад

Our turn, comrade.

@draftmagicagain1000 2 месяца назад

@@davidrosenberg9615😂

@rodrigpimenta 3 месяца назад

This was one of the best Commander Clash!

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

Thanks!

@dodotornado 3 месяца назад

Absolutely agreed! That is one of the best Commandergames I ever saw!

@laytonjr6601 3 месяца назад

Well, Seth dying first both times confirms Richard's theory that if you play a game-winning card you get killed for it

@haileydee9954 3 месяца назад

Watching Phil going from ALL the lands in game 1 to no lands in game 2 is just *chef's kiss*

@myguy4302 3 месяца назад

If Seth had smugglers surprised at instant speed on Richard’s end-step, this may have been quite a different game 16:47

@HelloThere-uu8ln 3 месяца назад

Dude, holy shit, this. Did I miss something on the battlefield forcing Seth to sorcery speed smugglers into a blind obedience?? Was this, like, a content thing where doing the optimal play is lame for the viewers/view count?? I'm so confused and it's fucking with me really hard.

@filiphorvath8932 3 месяца назад

@@HelloThere-uu8lnI think he just missed it

@HelloThere-uu8ln 3 месяца назад

@@filiphorvath8932 oh jeez, I feel like I just saw him make a video on RU-vid about pulling some tricks with smugglers and obliterator 😐

@Suppaichu 3 месяца назад

It was more about everyone being tapped out, he played around counterspells. I think it's fine as a play, emrakul is very hard to answer so it's not that likely someone will have an answer and even less a way to steal it

@HelloThere-uu8ln 3 месяца назад

@@Suppaichuoh man, idk. I feel like putting an emrakul into play sorcery speed with a blind obedience in play and a full board of creatures in play for your opponents is just asking for it. Personally I'm risking the Richard's EoT smugglers and if it gets countered I just untap and take my turn, likely not on anyone's radar that turn cycle. He died because 3 players were united in their hate against annihilator 6.

@RyuPlaneswalker 3 месяца назад

"Sylvan Primordial doesn't need to be banned" 2 seconds later "I will have perfect mana and Surveil 1"

@AMageOldAsDirt 3 месяца назад

I think of the cards on the Banlist Sylvan Primordial is one of the most deserving. Lots of the banned cards would be regulated by rule 0 most of the time like the power 9, Leovold, Time Vault, etc. But Sylvan Primordial would be in every single green deck forever being absolutely disgusting.

@RyuPlaneswalker 3 месяца назад

@@AMageOldAsDirt Sylvan, Golos and Prime Time will only get more powerful as we get more Utility lands and Lands with Basic Land Types. Like right now if you are in 3 Colors you can Get 2 Surveil lands and some minor Lifegain or an extra 1/1.

@chriselliott5539 3 месяца назад

@@RyuPlaneswalker sylvan has to get a forest so it's held back by that. Golos and PrimeTime are any land though and do get a lot better as we get more utility things.

@scrdngr 3 месяца назад

I came back to edh after prime time banning and my new play group showed me sylvan. I immediately said this is worse. So I made a reanimator deck and cast this on turn 2 everyone agreed. Blowing up 3 lands on turn 2 and grabbing 3 mana for myself.

@RyuPlaneswalker 3 месяца назад

@@scrdngr I do think Prime is stronger than Sylvan, but that is because it grabs any Non-basic.

@CouchtrollPodcastDS 3 месяца назад

This game validates my use of land destruction

@slymcfly123 3 месяца назад

Did you even watch game 2? 🤡

@pookygallahad4749 3 месяца назад

@@slymcfly123that’s more an issue with recurring nightmare than with Land Destruction, enabler vs payoff. Very powerful for sure tho

@Varler_ 3 месяца назад

I really like these experimental, what-if games! Would you guys ever do one where everyone has a silver-border commander?

@Aronia55 3 месяца назад

That sounds amazing!

@masterjbt 3 месяца назад

that would be amazing

@singularleaf3895 3 месяца назад

Only if you get to use both pieces of BFG.

@steveisbish 3 месяца назад

As a almost 20 year veteran player, Ive seen countless hours of MTG content. And by far and beyond, watching the four of you play is my absolute favorite content. It feels like homies playing at the kitchen table. Amazing work! Keep it going!

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

Thanks!

@garrettleblanc7926 3 месяца назад

This is some of my favorite content you guys do!!

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

Playing no-bans is super fun on occasion. Glad you like it!

@garrettleblanc7926 3 месяца назад

@@MTGGoldfishCommander agreed on occasion! I just want a reason to play fastbond and I got to live that through Phill so thank you! 😁

@Cube-i9k 2 месяца назад

46:25 has got to be the most Phil response i have ever heard 😂

@Loki- 2 месяца назад

I don't often like spelltable types of magic, but the face cams, and editing quality was great. I think the current player border should be orange for branding and it sticks out better than blue. Also, the breaks in between with just faces is always nice to feel more like in person. 🎉

@ben_clifford 3 месяца назад

15:17 earned my like. The reflexive "true" got me. 😂

@AndrewRingle 3 месяца назад

Crim is billed as the misery player, but Seth comes in with the land destruction loop pretending like it was an accident

@Balileart 3 месяца назад

"Should sylvan primordial stay banned?" On etb it can blow up 3 lands, gets you 3 lands. Just flickering it or having a panharmonicon in play can put you 6 lands ahead and your opponents 2 lands each behind

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

But you'll run out of Forests sooner or later ;)

@Cloudy573 3 месяца назад

I can never get enough of episodes like this. No-ban-list week, salt week, power 9 week, just hilarious plays every single turn

@עידונוימן-ט9פ 3 месяца назад

Richard’s deck in the article shows karn living legacy

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

Oops! Sorry, it's fixed now.

@countjondi9672 3 месяца назад

Now I kind of wanna see a ban-list only commander Commander where the only cards are cards that have at any point been banned in any format.

@velphidrow8317 2 месяца назад

Technically this is unplayable as you cannot have enough lands

@countjondi9672 2 месяца назад

@@velphidrow8317 we can leave basics as freebies

@jaylunwilliams1544 3 месяца назад

Crim asking Phil how many cards multiple times he has in his hand is absolutely killing me lol

@JonathanHecht 3 месяца назад

Seth literally picked the dragon i built my very first commander deck around back at Return to Ravnica. (only my build was just janky self mill and obviously no banned cards)

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

I have a soft spot for that cycle of Dragons. They remind me of when I first started playing Commander and would jam them in all kinds of decks.

@kylegonewild 3 месяца назад

52:50 Dang. Phil had the mana with Amulet to untap his bounce land but he was missing a Mountain. So close!

@orienmonterrosa 3 месяца назад

One of my favorite episodes so far, also shoutouts to Phil for letting Crim be mean!

@jaysonking4055 3 месяца назад

Phil's intro had me laughing out loud plays golos call pur coalition victory

@SP-ik6cc 3 месяца назад

God, I really loved this one. I was so hoping for Crim to play draw sevens and punishers and then the Intro showed Leovold and Hullbreacher - Chefs Kiss!

@STS-qi1qy 3 месяца назад

See people *say* land destruction is bad - but that was hilarious

@fabiogliosci8305 3 месяца назад

Seth complaining about Crim’s stax pieces after blowing up everyone’s lands for 4 turns straight. Sir, please stop

@MrGrovak 3 месяца назад

Wait Fastbond is an enchantment not an instant or sorcery... why did Phil bin it? Well moments after this comment it was corrected😂

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

Lol, I think he was thinking it was Channel.

@Gorbgorbenson 3 месяца назад

I was JUST looking for a no ban list episode, so this is great timing!

@light-chemistry 3 месяца назад

Richard playing the same deck he plays every other week looks a little "bringing a knife to a gun fight". Dowsing dagger a little less scary when you're staring down Fastbond and Sylvan primordial 😅... even funnier watching him cast a cartographer's hawk off an underground sea

@6ixpool520 3 месяца назад

I kinda liked that ithighlights how broken green is with all the ramp to catapult it ahead, especially with the crazy fastbond and channel starts in each of the games

@seanbaumann8825 3 месяца назад

I feel like every episode this season is my new favorite. This is awesomesauce! Also love the new filming and editing of the episodes.

@taylon5200 3 месяца назад

This was a blast, was so invested in every turn played by everyone haha. That biorythm was glorious!

@johnvogel1331 3 месяца назад

Poor Phil gets talked over so often

@The_Monarque 3 месяца назад

Is it just me or are Phil's voice, body, and name, very much not seeming like they should be the same person?

@boomerskoomers2 3 месяца назад

Been a rough week and this is exactly what I needed. Love the content and love you guys as creators

@ebonezra8073 3 месяца назад

Five years from now, Seth will be starting these with "Let's hop into the game! 10, 9, 8, 7..."

@mikemoyer8162 3 месяца назад

Before even starting, I better get to see Seth cast Upheaval.

@RyanEglitis 3 месяца назад

I'd LOVE the tuck rule coming back, Seth.

@nightalife 3 месяца назад

Powerlevel 7 and no banlist is certainly an interesting combination

@qwertys11 Месяц назад

That first turn was nasty Phil, keep it up 😂

@qwertys11 Месяц назад

Second one was just as broken, next time I’ll wait to post

@jonathonskogman8337 3 месяца назад

Am I the only one that thinks Jared Carthalion be looking like AJ Styles 🤔

@malmasterson3890 3 месяца назад

Yoooo, that Mark Henry fake-out retirement was pretty good last week.

@LuKo3x5066 3 месяца назад

That win for Kavu! It is the best tribe!

@hundredpercentjuice Месяц назад

Fastbond is so good that Phil thought it was a sorcery……

@RyanEglitis 3 месяца назад

Cards we saw that should remain banned: Sundering Titan Channel Sylvan Primordial Prime Time Fastbond Emrakul, the AEons Torn Biorhythm Recurring Nightmare Leovold Lutri Cards we sort of saw that probably should remain banned: Griselbrand Karakas Gifts Ungiven Cards we saw that are probably fine to unban: Coalition Victory

@silomurphy4451 2 месяца назад

Crim thank you for playing leovold

@St33ldancer 3 месяца назад

Just today I was thinking how much I'd like Prime Time in one of my decks, this is a good demonstration as to why it's so degenerate lmao

@FuturePreference 3 месяца назад

"Protection from Simic" Ahhh! So that's why Crim's favorite equipment is Sword of Body and Mind.

@DonovanPresents 3 месяца назад

I haven't watched the episode, but I see Nihiloor mentioned, and I'm automatically rooting for that deck just for the commander alone!

@stephenandolino 3 месяца назад

Early Aggro has to go at Richard or he’ll never stop “taking the first 6 turns off to ramp & slow roll a board wipe”.

@AdamEichholz 3 месяца назад

Poor Richard in game 2 - just trying to get lands on the board the entire time hahaha

@blakerobinson4198 3 месяца назад

Fastbond's damage trigger happens any time a land is played and isn't the first. Even though Phil has multiple additional land effects, fastbond sees all extra land drops, and should have taken more damage. That's what makes fastbond "fair" hahaha

@ben_clifford 3 месяца назад

0:55 just the deck intros got me excited

@hewhogoesni8949 2 месяца назад

I got a kick out of "I think sundering titan is fine" followed by reanimator shenanigans to prove why it would be a problem

@ReyaadawnMTG 3 месяца назад

I love seeing Lutri as companion.

@RPGFanboy14 3 месяца назад

Crim didn't even do the worst things Leovold got banned for. Back when he was legal my friend turn 2 Leovold into turn 3 teferi's puzzle box and just locked us out of the game immediately.

@gabesgames9893 3 месяца назад

I was a person to do that in a game, hated it and immediately sold the card. Then like a week later he was banned.

@ethanhughes3515 3 месяца назад

Honestly pretty happy most of those cards are banned. Don’t want to casually walk into those in a game.

@noahfriedrich4686 3 месяца назад

Amazing. Probably the only time Emrakul has flipped a Dowsing Dagger

@umpatte0 3 месяца назад

I just noticed that Richard printed out the mana tracking card that someone posted to reddit. I know cuz i printed my own out as well :)

@aldenkahl8703 3 месяца назад

Richard put mandate of peace in the wrong zone. It exiles itself as it resolves

@tomdoetsch8603 3 месяца назад

This is the most unhinged commander show and I love it.

@thew1ldcard886 3 месяца назад

Wild to see Crim wearing a Knuckle Puck shirt.

@0nCoolDown 3 месяца назад

In a strange way, having everyone do broken stuff make this episode more enjoyiable than i spected. Maybe because the answer has allways being to unban it all

@TheDarkray79 3 месяца назад

Or a point system like Canadian Highlander.

@SP-ik6cc 3 месяца назад

I think its because it is maybe freeing in a way. You dont have to worry about what is fair or not. And theres also other powerful plays that can rival the standard „let me ramp and draw a million cards“ way commander games often go. Ok…or at least they happen differently 😂

@ajaxender12 3 месяца назад

No, you leave it all banned, and if you want to play with these cards you organize a group to play with who are on the same page - just like these guys do.

@kurowasanabe 3 месяца назад

Does Richard just casually have a Ancestrall around that he can play with? I'm impressed.

@golgariguy 3 месяца назад

Loved it, you should do it more often!!

@twistedlimitsjj1901 3 месяца назад

Fastbond is an enchantment 🧐 you can tell who has never played this random banned card🤣🤣🤣

@imaginarymatter 3 месяца назад

I think keeping the fast mana house ban but allowing the EDH official ban list gives a look at how fair some of the ban list cards are compared to things that are legal in the format.

@zsorens4570 3 месяца назад

Man that game 2 I found myself rooting for the boys to take down Seth, that assasins trophy to mandate of peace was dirty and I love it.

@genericgamer2003 3 месяца назад

lmao I love the turn 5 Emrakul from Seth

@Grinthex 3 месяца назад

These games were a blast to watch.

@mrq7502 3 месяца назад

Crim, can you share your deck list? This is awesome!

@golgariguy 3 месяца назад

Ooooh yes, this is gonna be great!!

@LoonerFlight 3 месяца назад

I will confirm, as someone who was playing commander when it was legal, Prophet of Kruphix def deserves to still be banned.

@caseypicklecopter 2 месяца назад

I think in the first game when Phil died, Crim would get to keep the Kavu tokens, wouldn’t they stay around?

@weirdmusicmixmaster 3 месяца назад

I wouldnt mind seeing karakas unbanned, theres already lands you have to play around.

@AlexDuWaldt 3 месяца назад

There was a slight misplay in game 1, didn't affect the outcome, however Crim's graveyard should have disappeared with the resolution of Farewell. Tef protect won't protect your graveyard or your library or your hand for that matter.

@adduletment 3 месяца назад

Sylvan primordial def does not need to be banned. There are tons of spells that ramp way more than 3 mana for less than 7 mana. Harvest season and traverse the Outlands comes to mind.

@labranehit7687 2 месяца назад

It does need to be banned. If it was a cast ability I would actually agree with you but unfortunately it isn't. So any deck that can blink it or cheat it into play can absolutely abuse that trigger. Plus you can hit lands with it so you can destroy your opponents lands AND ramp yourself. I have the card and have played it and I promise you it deserves to be banned.

@staticaster_ 3 месяца назад

Finally, Crim got a W

@phantomjoker5362 3 месяца назад

4 way battle Royale between Legends with no ban list..... Awesome!!!!!!!!!

@MrFutureDirector 3 месяца назад

you still take damage from fastbond even if you have additional land drops

@Nathanael_Forlorn 3 месяца назад

Would be great to see the deck's budget in the intro.

@UrMiMa2 3 месяца назад

Did I miss something? Why didn’t Seth take an extra turn after emrakul?

@Niuttuc 3 месяца назад

In the first game, Emrakul was put straight onto the battlefield from Seth's hand using Smuggler's share. Emrakul's extra turn happens when you cast her, and putting a permanent onto the battlefield isn't casting it, so Seth "merely" did it for the 15/15 flying Annihilator 6 with protection from colored spells

@grant4d1 3 месяца назад

I’m surprised to not see Paradox Engine

@Dark-Pikachu1 3 месяца назад

36:06 you guys forgot with these banned cards blink effects Sundering Titan ETB like 5 times imagine just like the other ETB banned cards Seth

@Cancer_Cam 3 месяца назад

I thought Crim's Kavu tokens said "Kevin" at first 😂

@Yull-Rete 3 месяца назад

It could be interesting to see a game with random restrictions that you don't normally see. Like all your cards have to be under $1, or you can't use any non-basic cards that contain the letter E in their name.

@peewee0224 3 месяца назад

45:18 this can only come from the mouth of somebody whos never played library .

@ave_maria323 2 месяца назад

I remember losing to my own biorythem on duels of the planes walkers... was half asleep and misclicked...

@ajaxender12 3 месяца назад

Griselbrand is not fine, come on. You guys can do stuff like this (which was hella entertaining to watch, and probably is to play if you know what you're doing) if you want to play with cards like that. Any group can rule 0 if they want. Otherwise you know it would show up any time anyone plays Black, it'd be like Sheoldred in standard. That's neither interesting for content or for casual play.

@dontmisunderstand6041 3 месяца назад

Wild that the takeaway from No Banlist week is that all forms of land destruction, free casting, and ramp need to be banned.

@arghanothername 3 месяца назад

What, no one played any ante cards?

@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 месяца назад

Lol, those we kept banned.

@ShiroyWolf 3 месяца назад

@@MTGGoldfishCommander Ante week when? I am sincerely curious how these cards would play. But doesn't make sense as a Commander Clash thing. Maybe an ante cube with a group willing to play a bunch of games. But that is way outside any schedule.

@franekkus546 3 месяца назад

This episode was so great. I guess we, as a community, just love seeing big explosive, fun, super-powerful-bot-not-CEDH stuff on our screens

@_claymore 3 месяца назад

damn, was hoping to see Braids here after reading the title. imagine a Leovold vs. Braids match.. must be miserable :D Edit: first time feeling like Seth was a lil salty or at least sad that he died the way he did. very rare to see him like that. might be wrong though.

@Jace9IX 3 месяца назад

Richard maybe did like 3 things in 2 games hahaha

@Optimator7 3 месяца назад

I support the ban list 100%

@1tdyer 3 месяца назад

If anything this episode proves that the banned list needs to be expanded. Cartographer's Hawk is just too game warping to exist in the format.

@ryangainey94 2 месяца назад

I'm surprised no one thought to drag out their scheme decks and Vanguards and Conspiracies, or more Un-cards... If you're really going to go with zero bans, every deck may as well be absolutely broken by also being an Archenemy deck along with the most busted cards ever printed. Tawnos as a Vanguard would be the most busted vanguard to run alongside the commander, probably