MTG Arena's Most Hated Card Returns: Nexus of Fate! | Much Abrew 

Wasn't his favorite deck at one point mono red prison?

Glad I missed those cards in rotation. Looks pretty toxic

No one hurt him, he's just a closet sadist.

No hurt Seth, this is just Seth in his prime element. They just don't make magic cards like the ones legal in timeless

​​@@Jerrysaurus Nexus was so much worst when it was legal in standard because the deck had no way to close out the game so they would slowly mill you out which would take forever.

I used to play Arena in Eldraine standard. That was like the wild west, lawless, cruel, and everyone was doing incredibly busted things out from every direction. But yeah this deck was one of the creams of the crop of that time xD

kinda, half the deck was either banned or rotated with eldrains release

There was still once upon a time too to guarantee the 1 drop into oko😭

nah, it rotated with eldraines release, it was in the standard before.

@@colecarmichael5724 Right! Once upon a time was a MESSED up card. You could always have the Goose for the turn 2 oko xD What a wild standard. I'll never be over the playtest team saying that they never thought people would use Oko's +1 on opponent stuff as removal, there were testing him strictly as a food payoff. I dont blame them tho, the playtest team has never been funded enough to have enough people do extensive testing, and they have to test everytrhing from standard to vintage and commander.

It's all part of the stupid design decision that Arena, in difference to mtgo, doesn't let you put in permanent regular stops, only ones for the current turn cycle. Add that visual bug on top and you get this great situation.

Fun is a zero-sum game. If they have none, you have all.

@@metalhev3989Spoken like a true Spike

There was a period on Arena where 2/3+ of the opponents were playing NoF decks. It got to the point where the moment you saw wilderness rec you pretty much just scooped to find a different deck to play against. Also, Nexus trolled Seth in chests for something like 800 chests. He finally got one on a week I wasn't watching 😅😅

Impliying Ragavan-Bowmasters-dark ritual decks are less miserable to go against

@@alejandrovallejo6763 At least you die quickly. Nexus is just completely one-sided

to be fair, he also puts growth spiral on top with mystic sanctuary and then immediately shuffles it away, so i think its not understanding that nexus shuffles, and not a lack of understanding how brainstorm works

@@alaraplatt8104 Knowing how other cards work is a part of "knowing how to Brainstorm".

Why? Can you teach me I'm not familiar and don't understand?

They're named "snow covered [basic]" not [basic] and field cares about names @@SirRyan420

​@@SirRyan420Different name.

@@bensteinhauser784 i see, I just now actually read field of the dead now I understand. ty

I never had a problem with it until a couple of months ago where it just started sometimes not holding priority with a stop in the end step. The inconsistency is pretty irritating

It does that when you perform the same actions repeatedly (casting Nexus). I lost a game I was about to win with Kethis because Arena passed the turn even when I had more time on the rope

​@@blipsontheradarI'd expected it was some kind of safety valve that isn't smart enough to recognize what the human was trying to do. If you had nothing but Nexus of Fates in your deck, a bot (or very dedicated jerk) could just cast them infinitely until the opponent scooped, right?

It's none of that. The indicator persisting between turns is a lie, you just have to toggle off and on the end stop each turn

@@ecoKady that happened to Shahar Shenhar back in the deck’s glory days and it became a huge thing. Not suprised it’s a feature, just annoyed I can’t play Kethis

was nexus in standard with oko?

@@surfinggarchomp2820 Yup. Nexus came out in Core 2019, meant to be the base set to work with for 2019 standard, and Thrones came out in Oct 2019. If both remained legal, you could have played a deck that had both in it.

@@surfinggarchomp2820 It's a little bit of a lie. They were all in a 2 year period, but I forgot DOM and M19 rotated before ELD. Also cards were getting banned along the way. But there were several Standard decks that had multiple cards from this deck, while they were available. Dom: Teferi M19: Nexus GRN: Nothing RNA: Growth Spiral, Wilderness Reclamation WAR: T3feri, Nissa who Breaks the Meta M20: Field of the Dead (Teferi Rotates, Nexus is already banned) ELD: Oko, Once Upon a Time, Mystic Sanctuary THB: Uro

@@surfinggarchomp2820 no, nexus rotated when eldrain released

close, but not the same standard, Teferi HoD & Nexus rotated when eldrain released

true, i saw basically everything from burn to turbofog. just missing real tron.

Then you don't play interaction. There are 6 cards to cut here in the right match up: 4 Swords and 2 Supreme Verdict. Actually, you cut Tefere's Protection and the 2 mana do nothing Search for Azcanta anyway, so....

@@47Mortuus you = 🤓

Or... you know... hold up interaction? Deluge seems kinda meh compared to Planeswalkers that interact AND help you getting advantage during your extra turns without spending mana. Also seems like a poor man's Dig Through Time, especially in this deck Dig is just way better. Explore/Growth Spiral and Uro want you to keep up 1 mana spells other than Brainstorm or Swords, like Spell Pierce (more powerful the older the format). Either way the main deck only has interaction for creature match ups. Teferi, Time Raveler seems perfect here and with that and the need for at least a few counterspells I don't think there's room for this type of effect anyways. You probably want to move some of the untap value to your mana base. Hall of the Storm Giant seems really unnecessary and Seth never cycled those tapped duals (you don't want to in 95% of all cases; 26 lands is pretty light now that thinning is relevant). The tapped Gates that seek a nonland only once for effectively 5 mana are great. They have basic land types, too.

Even though all I said still holds true, [[Memory Deluge]] still is very good in this deck, surprisingly, making what I said about it untrue. I ranked up to Mythic from Diamond 4 in 2 days with a variant on this deck. [[Memory Deluge]] plays out way better than one might think. Timeless is highly interactive format; [[Memory Deluge]] finds answers for you or keeps the infinite turns loop going. 2 reasons why [[Memory Deluge]] > [[Dig Through Time]]: 1) It doesn't conflict with [[Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath]] 2) it finds you 4 cards out of the top 11 instead of 2 out of 7. What I did not anticipate is the sheer amount of mana [[Wilderness Reclamation]] can produce, especially in multiples. On the flip side the 2 mana difference can decide the game not in your favor if you needed it for casting Nexus, but that almost never comes up at all. List: SPELLS 4 Swords to Plowshares 4 Brainstorm 4 Growth Spiral 4 Reprieve 2 Divine Purge 3 Memory Deluge 4 Nexus of Fate PERMANENTS 2 Teferi, Time Raveler 3 Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath 4 Wilderness Reclamation LANDS (Mystic Sanctuary is fringe, Minas Tirith instead kinda pops off. Also Misty Ranforest in Timeless Anthology 1 please? then its 4/3/1 or even 4/4/1 aka 9 fetches) 1 Forest 1 Island 1 Plains 1 Boseiju, Who Endures 1 Otawara, Soaring City 1 Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire 1 Gate to Manorborn 1 Gate to Seatower 1 Gate to the Citadel 1 Castle Vantress 1 Minas Tirith 1 Temple Garden 1 Hallowed Fountain 1 Breeding Pool 1 Spara's Headquarters 3 Field of the Dead 4 Flooded Strand 4 Windswept Heath SIDEBOARD 4 Veil of Summer 3 Haywire Mite 2 Fragment Reality 2 Soul Partition 1 Dovin's Veto 1 Divine Purge 1 Teferi's Protection 1 Teferi, Time Raveler

you die to 1 drops then

True but if they do it early enough you have 4 lands in play and 2 fetches in hand and all your deck is is 4 Nexus of Fate. Not a great spot I believe. Doesn't matther if you have 7 mana and/or Wilderness Reclamation in play, you'd need to overcome their board with zombies to do anything.

Nah theres a lot more wrong with this

He was always a villain he’s just finally saying it out loud

dafuq why Wilderness Rec is free on your turn, -4 mana on theirs. plus they untap to possibly counter it. Just the worst suggestion. I have a list of LITERALLY 20 cards that might make the cut which are better than Flash Leyline LMAO

A random test of talents seems like it would ruin a lot of decks in timeless...good idea!

@@MasterCrvo it's been increasingly good to play in my main deck, and it's a life saver for playing tainted combo

Not really. Ive had my Nexi Stone Brain'd plenty of times. I just make Zombies and especially if it's a blue deck that would play ToT, they have no chance against that and Uro alone.

Companion reaction. My Black Lotus just sits there and takes it if they destroy some of my stuff.

No it was designed to be a 1 of finisher in bad control decks that play creatures or planeswalkers that cant win on their own. Obviously creature lands do that job the best but it's nice to have some variation.... I guess

Not even close.

This is why I’ve been saying modern needs oko unbanned

Honestly they'd probably make a killing locking animations behind a pay wall. People love stuff like that in COD and other games that do that. Or rather, not love, but people go for it for sure

Seth was the villain all along, and we love him for it.

Tamiyo sucks ass compared to Teferi, Time Reveler. Only agree on Memory Deluge. You want INTERACTION after untapping with Wild Rec and/or to not die. REPRIEVE for instance is insane because you can still cycle it when going infinite or attemting to. That's MORE of a time walk than any fog, because it acutally replaces itself, although in both cases opponent draws a card so it's not close to Time Walk. 3 FotD > 2. You'll have to take this on a "trust me bro" basis. I ranked up to Mythic from Diamond 4 in 2 days aka

I wish I could set my opponents to 1.5x. speed