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MU2 Landing At Mountain Air NC 

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MU2B-60 (Marquise) departing AVL (Asheville, NC) for a 27 nm flight to 2NC0 (Mountain Air, NC -- Private). Demonstrates the short field capabilities of the MU2 (runway is 2785' long @ 4500' MSL -- no overruns). Credits to Greg "The Colonel" Mink for the videography and to Nate Bergeron for all editing/post production work.

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@sjcpilot
@sjcpilot 14 лет назад
amazing area, I live in north carolina and never even heard of this place! Sounds like heaven to me!
@gregmink
@gregmink 15 лет назад
Impressive plane, impressive piloting. Great video!
@Ganon136
@Ganon136 12 лет назад
Love making this approach on Microsoft Flight Simulator with our virtual group: Asheville ATC.
@tom080955
@tom080955 15 лет назад
Keep these coming!!! MU's are great and we need more vids like this, Thanks! Tom
@Altenholz
@Altenholz 9 лет назад
Marvellous aircraft!
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 14 лет назад
Yes, it almost always is. However, it usually smooths out on short final, and there is rarely any crosswind due to the mountain.
@garyroberts8637
@garyroberts8637 Год назад
Looks like a carrier landing !
@JIMJAMSC
@JIMJAMSC 11 лет назад
Bet the people living there loved it when you flew in with those screaming engines.Flew these for Bankair back in the 90s.Had a bunch of em gutted with crew doors installed so they could pack em all the way and you could still get in.Linemen who didnt know how to fuel them use to almost tip them over.Seen more than a few get their glasses blow off if they did not vent the tip tank before cracking the cap.Quick plane but I do not miss it and smiled when I got to fly the commander 690 instead.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 13 лет назад
@benspreen It depends on weight, but ususally right around 100 kts. The MU2 doesn't have poor roll control at low speeds, but as you can see from the video on final, having spoilers does require a good amount of control wheel deflection at lower speeds to get the airplane to do what you want.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 15 лет назад
About 3000'. At Mountain Air, we are always a good 1000-2000 lbs below gross, so the numbers work by the book. Realistically, most airplanes are committed very early in the takeoff run. Good news is there is a valley off the end of the runway if you need to dive to get airspeed.
@dphotos007
@dphotos007 14 лет назад
That plane sure stops fast. I think it was build with that in mind. A small turbo prop for business use. You get a ton of plane for the price and I think it has a sharp design. Such a beautiful plane. I like it better then the King Air.
@VictorSilva-wd6dl
@VictorSilva-wd6dl 10 лет назад
That is insane!
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 13 лет назад
@jvandervalk Field elevation is 4436, so I fly the MU2 at about 5500. The pistons fly at about 5300. Almost all the accidents that have occured are the result of an overshoot, so although it may seem counterintuitve, I will tend toward the lower end of the range.
@johnprice7303
@johnprice7303 9 лет назад
Holy Shhhit! Not in a million years would I want to land there for real! I have the Aerosoft scenery on my fsx...and the A2A 182... I have crashed and burned dozens of times. Respect to the real world pilots!
@johnjcarter
@johnjcarter 15 лет назад
Greg Mink Used to be my favorite pilot.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 15 лет назад
No, when we touched down the camera swung around on its mount. It took us a second to get it back around, so we edited that part out.
@howellhammond
@howellhammond 15 лет назад
Great job with the info balloons. Let's create a folder on web site and stick this and other similar videos in to help people coming in the 1st time.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 15 лет назад
I am unaware of a cool down requirement for the brakes. There is a 3 min cool down requirement for the engines, measured from when the CLs are pulled back after landing, until they can be shut down.
@mozartjpn137
@mozartjpn137 11 лет назад
WOW!
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 13 лет назад
@jvandervalk I would never takeoff uphill (nor land downhill). The gradient has more effect than almost any wind. A downhill landing is also dangerous because your base-to-final turn puts the energy vector pointed right at the clubhouse and swimming pool, i.e. if you overshoot you are potentially going to hurt a bunch of people on the ground.
@SkiMadRiverGlen
@SkiMadRiverGlen 14 лет назад
Thanks so much for this vid. I'm not a pilot but have scheduled my 1st lesson! I was amazed by the amount you had to turn the wheel to keep level as you approached the runway. Is that normal? Do you even call it a wheel in an airplane? LOL.
@KiloDelta302
@KiloDelta302 15 лет назад
Question: Assume you landed at Mountian Air Airport using normal breaking and reverse as required. If you were doing a quick turn could you depart right away? I am curious if the Mitz requires any "cool down" period on the breaks to meet break energy requiremts as spelled out in the AFM? Thanks -kd
@jmillski1
@jmillski1 13 лет назад
I've thought several times about getting a weekend rental out there and flying my 172 up- but everytime I start planning and see that big fat WARNING SEVERE TURBULENCE AROUND MT MITCHEL box on the sectional. Any words of wisdom about that?
@KiloDelta302
@KiloDelta302 15 лет назад
OK, thanks for the quick response and for not correcting my spelling (breaks - brakes).
@shay29772003
@shay29772003 15 лет назад
Great thanks. Matt studant pilot with 27 hrs
@stlflyguy
@stlflyguy 15 лет назад
Out of curiosity, what's the accelerate stop distance for the MU2...at average weights, etc?
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 13 лет назад
@benspreen Been there a few times. My daughter looked at going there.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 14 лет назад
Most of the time we call it a yoke, but control wheel is OK. The spoilers in an MU2 require more control wheel deflection at the lower speeds typical of final approach than conventional aileron equipped aircraft. Good luck with your flying lessons.
@benspreen
@benspreen 13 лет назад
what is your air speed that you came in at? i hear that the mu-2 has poor low speed roll control from a friend(jvandervalk)
@numaelacosta
@numaelacosta 14 лет назад
Was the air really choppy on final?
@benspreen
@benspreen 13 лет назад
@mtnairpilot do you ever fly out of horace williams airport at unc?
@scarter176
@scarter176 7 лет назад
I'm sure I could negotiate the approach and landing fine but a go around is triggered up at all times. I have your same approach speeds but I don't have reverse props. Pretty countryside.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 7 лет назад
steve carter I only use reverse for a second or two. It’s not essential. There’s a big upslope that really helps to slow you down. Landing long is the way you get into trouble here, regardless of aircraft type.
@scarter176
@scarter176 7 лет назад
What's the accelerate stop distance for your MU2 ? I know it's a short field machine but mine is not. Ever had to abort a takeoff ?
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 7 лет назад
steve carter A true accelerate stop (starting at V1) would be around 4000’. In reality you are committed very early in the takeoff run. On the plus side you’ve got a 3000’ valley you can dive into for airspeed so if you get to the end of the runway with anything at all you have options.
@scarter176
@scarter176 7 лет назад
I watched the video and have been in and out of shorter. Having confidence in your equipment is paramount. Density altitude would be a small issue as well there. I'm not faulting you or your technique or equipment just saying mine won't stop at 90 Kt rotation speed after eating up more than half the runway at 7000 density altitude or so. Yours will (or should) with beta. Just different equipment. No reverse, no spoilers. Just five inch brakes.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 7 лет назад
steve carter The -10 engines will make 100% torque at this altitude even in the summer. There is an element of risk in a high speed abort here that can’t be eliminated and must be accepted. With turbine engines I think it is a reasonable one. Once you get past about 2000’ you are going off the end with whatever you’ve got; no sugarcoating that.
@nocotton
@nocotton 3 года назад
I's it as loud on the inside as it is outside? I hope not. Louder than a loud of full jets.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 3 года назад
No the long body is not that loud on the inside for 2 main reasons: 1) the 4-blade props turn at 1600 RPMs vs 2000 for the 3-blade props on the short bodies (except for the Solitaire), and 2) the blades are behind the cockpit and in front of the club, so unless the plane is full and you have people on the couch no one has to sit next to the props. In the short bodies the props are next to the cockpit, which is uncomfortably loud for the pilots.
@nocotton
@nocotton 3 года назад
@@mtnairpilot I never experienced it from the inside, but as a former lineman, I distinctly remember the ear piercing howling from the outside of any Garrett-powered aircraft.
@333crypta
@333crypta 6 лет назад
looked like a bit of pucker factor going on there
@scarter176
@scarter176 7 лет назад
I would not cover that risk with my life. Old pilots, bold pilots, no old bold pilots.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 7 лет назад
steve carter If you are interested there is a good instructional video at www.mapilots.org. The airport does have its challenges but those risks can be mitigated with preflight preparation and proficiency. Like any other landing, airspeed and flightpath control combined with a willingness to go around early if things don’t look right solve most of the problems.
@scarter176
@scarter176 7 лет назад
Kind of like a carrier landing without the hook or safety net ? Lol
@12Jetdiver55
@12Jetdiver55 13 лет назад
I have 4500 hours in them things. No big deal.
@motokid032
@motokid032 12 лет назад
Holy fuckme..Excuse my language.
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