Good review- I wish someone would do a underbelly comparison to this truck and other conventionals. Rear shock placement, rock guards on rear axle ubolts, welded rear axle construction, standard skidplates throughout.This truck (all tundras) are designed to be very effective off-road. Not to mention extremely beefy front end components for a half ton. Rack and pinion steering. These things take abuse and are very low maintenance. These are things that matter in a truck, not whether or not your getting 2 mpg better because your engine shuts down half its cylinders. We have a 2007 and a 2017 for work trucks and they both pass yearly safety with zero issues, do the work very well (Tow 10k regularly) and All we do is regular maintenance. These are awesome trucks, dont let the lack of fancy electronics fool you.
Trailer brakes. You should never tow without dedicated trailer brakes On anything over a few thousand lbs, in my opinion. The brakes on these trucks are greAt though, with large 4 piston brakes up front and big rotors. I think the rotors are about 14.5” on the trucks. I have my trucks registered for 8500 kgs, so legally I can tow/ carry about 5800 kgs. Assuming i dont overload axle weights/payload truck or/trailer. I also have a extra 800lbs of leaf spring in both my tundras (Very cost effective upgrade if you tow a lot)
Trailer brake controller is in a tundra. The brakes themselves need to be on the trailer axles and wired to your 7 prong. Not every trailer comes with brakes
The Tundra Crewmax rear window is a selling point, vs the tiny sliding window on the Ford that they made such a big deal about. The Ford's window looks silly. Also, if you want to tow properly on any truck with over a 5000k pound load, you really need a weight distribution hitch. I'd also recommend airbags if you are concerned about squat appearance. I've had this setup on two different Tundra TRD Pro's and have towed a 7500 lb dry-weight travel trailer about 10,000 miles through out the USA. My whole rig is just around 15,000 pounds fully loaded on that CAT scale. Gas mileage is the only downside on the Tundra or any rig for that matter,
I use the rear sliding window for all weather temps. Summer helps filter air, winter I like to put the heater on and bring the window 1/8 down (little crack). Really helps with filtering air in cab.
I own the 21 Tundra. only color I could find last year was black. hard to keep clean. but i sure love it. 60000kms in 1 year so far..should be able to get 1 million kms out of her. 🇨🇦
Toyota doing away with the 5.7 is going to be a terrible move. I understand their planned twin turbo v6, but their base loves the 5.7. Just update the transmission and add the trans cooler back!
I for one actually think that rear window is a nice touch. The reason I like it over a sunroof is I am 6' 3" and i usually struggle with headroom in vehicles, pickup trucks included. So I can rarely order them with a sunroof as it takes 3/4" - 1" away from the headroom. This is a nice solution for me and feel it would lean me towards a Tundra (If they EVER refresh the darn thing LOL!)
I would still choose the f150 for all around truck as I will tow 7-8000 lbs a few times a year over mountains, and go down logging roads etc. the only thing I fan boy about is the rear window with the tundra... I would however buy the tundra if I didn’t have a carcane problem. I can’t keep anything 🤷🏼♂️ life is about the spice!
Glad I found this channel when I saw you moved on from TFL. I really enjoy the chemistry you and the old man have. I think the rear sliding window is cool. Don't have to worry about missing when I throw my empty cans out the back. /s. In all seriousness do you get the low pressure "womp womp" noise when just the rear window is open at highway speeds?
I have a Tundra, and I can confirm that there is NO buffeting when you have the rear window open. One of my favorite ways to drive in the summer is with sunroof and all windows (including back) open. Works well for city speeds, it's the next best thing to a convertible. On the highway, if you keep all the side windows closed, but open the sunroof and the rear window about halfway, air gets drawn in through the sunroof and out the back window, a great way to get airflow without being too noisy.
Cement or either of the blues. All 3 work for me. It is unfortunate that it gets worse gas mileage than the others but as you said it is super reliable and with how much cheaper it can be due to its age that discount can cover a fair amount of gas to cover the difference in the MPG.
I'll tolerate 17 mpg knowing my lifters won't give up the ghost (Mopar) or I won't be spending $3500 on replacing cam phasers (Ford). GM engines simply blow a hole in the side of the block these days. There is a lot to be said for reliability. I'm not heartbroken over a lack of little LED load lights in the bed. An inverter would be nice, though.
Voodoo Blue; no contest. Fair points regarding fuel economy. A diesel option would be phenomenal but hybrid would be an abomination. Go full electric or leave things alone. Hybrids turn into very heavy compromised vehicles and are only really at an advantage in stop/go traffic (ie. they make good taxis). I don't think I would buy the TRD Pro package. I would pick a package with an interior that suited my needs then sort the suspension via the aftermarket. The aftermarket would allow me to tailor the suspension to my payload/towing needs while keeping the higher GVM sticker on the other Tundra packages.
I can't see toyota bringing a diesel to their trucks in Canada or US. Two reasons I can think of; government regulations and they last forever. I'm curious as to why the hybrid would be a bad idea, though. Just picking your brain. Don't you think electric powered low end torque would be good for towing and normal city traffic? Save at least a little bit of gas. But yes tbat would easily add 1500-2000 lbs to the gvw of the pickup. I'm looking at getting a 2021 crew cab. Been eying it for about since the fall. Do you think its worth waiting for the redesigns?
@@soapbox187 Full electric would be excellent for low end grunt. The main issue is that battery technology hasn't caught up yet. My great hope currently sits with ultra capacitor technology (well worth a look if you're interested). The problem with hybrid technology is that it runs both electric and ICE systems making the overall weight of the vehicle much greater than it would be for either ICE or electric systems by themselves. As for diesel, I think it's the best bridge to when electric can take over. There's some hope as all the North American manufacturers have put out a 1/2 tonne diesel. Toyota has a 4.5l diesel V8 that could serve the Tundra beautifully.
@@edwardpeters4700 good point . Also toyota would most likely drop the v8 for a six cylinder in the hybrid. Same hybrid power train in the Lexus LS. Good for performance but NOT for a heavy truck. That beast would be 6-7k pounds! No way a v6 would pull that efficiently. Solid state and graphene seem to be the most effective. Ill have to look into ultra capacitors. I refuse to let the market dictate my decision. Im concerned consumers will blindly choose electric because its the morally right thing to do. I fear the future in 20 years.
Florida must be the new Canada because the TRD pro's in Florida are going for around $60k.....out of my price range 😂. Favorite color : cement grey The rear window was a selling point for me.
Thanks for a great video, it is great to have an enthusiastic person doing what they love. I have a 2017 1794 and would love to put a PRO suspension in it. How did you find the PRO suspension did on road as far as highway joints and potholes? Do they get transferred to the cabin more than a regular Tundra? As far as the Vid, I totally agree with your POP about the fuel economy and the need for Toyota to get their next engine right, I think that will sway allot of people either way. A positive if they put out something that is modern and reliable, but if it is just a ordinary puffed up 3.5, I think allot of people will move to other trucks. You can only be loyal so long if the manufacturer does not care about catering to the competitive truck buyers. I think I can help you with the rear end locker assessment, In the Toyota The rear is a Limited Slip, it has to slip before the gears can work for the other side. I think this is better than the locker because, in 2wd you can use this more often and it is less intrusive than a locker at speed. Pleased do the same with either a Chevy with limited slip or an older TRD pro with a locker. Cheers-A
If you go slow and keep throttle steady, ATRAC kicks in and acts in a diff lock manner grabbing wheels. Check TFL's review, they do the slow and low approach and it works great going up and over "razor rocks". Not saying a rear locker wouldn't be better (it would) but at least use what's at your disposal when doing a review....
Imagine a Toyota Tundra Diesel Hybrid tho. I'd convert it to consume vegetable oil, put a camper in the bed, & travel the continent for next to free (restaurants like to give away oil since they have to pay to dispose it).
does this truck have a rear locker?? why do the older sequoias and tundras and 4 runners and gx 470s have either rear or center locking differential setup and that million mile v8 i force 4.7l v8 prolly same engine in this 2020 tundra... so whats up why is toyota stripping out the necessary offroad equipment that could make the rig that much more badass and stand out when offroading instead of only looking pretty whats up with that!!!??? -peter
Army Green 😍 - I'm just realizing that this is not the first Tundra TRD pro featured on this channel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WO7eXX4YsAw.html
Yep! We've been testing trucks here on Truck King for many years. The uploads were just very inconsistent before, but now I'm full-time here and we have loads of videos planned. Stay tuned!
This is EVERYTHING a truck review channel should be. Nothing fancy but honest, useful, simple and entertaining! A lot of the other channels talk too much, compare too much as opposed to focusing on the actual vehicle at hand. Towing, off road, quick exterior and interior overview. Thumbs up, pal! Subscribed.
I agree. I like the shorter right to the point type videos...you are right every other review channel goes way into too much detail with interior and exterior crap that nobody cares about. Honestly none of the reviews mean anything on new vehicles because they're new, they're under warranty, anything goes wrong it gets fixed free by the dealer...all I really care about is if something will still be moving on its own power in 10-20 years, so new car reviews are 100% useless for people like me who don't buy new stuff.
That's my favorite part about my 4Runner! Also, it's handy for moving big objects. I was helping my parents move some furniture yesterday, and there was one more piece I want to put in but the hatch wouldn't close. Just rolled the rear window down, and that did the trick LOL.
I love the rear sliding window personally, it’s unique and helps air out the cab on hot days quite nicely. I love that Army Green color y’all tested, I’m a combat vet so the color resonates. I own a 2017 crew max Tundra that is Inferno colored. Love the color but I agree Cavalry Blue is my favorite! Again it just resonates even more since I was a Cavalry Scout, I think I need one!!!
@@t4thfavor1212 yeah the new f150 hybrid has 24 combined. Yours probably gets like 18-24? The tundra gets like 15. Thats like $3000 per year difference for most people.
I get my TUNDRA TRD OFF ROAD on August 15th. I have owned big 3 crap and switched to Toyota in 04. Every single Toyota has been absolutely dead reliable. The best being my 13 TRD SPORT Tacoma. I tow a 5000 pound RV and the Tundra is no worse towing than my Tacoma as far as fuel consumption goes. My favorite color is VOODOO blue but my new Tundra is Barcelona Red because blue is NA for 2020. I expect my TRD OFF ROAD to be a better tow vehicle than the PRO. I may buy an aftermarket rear locker for my truck next year.
They are super reliable which is the appeal. I have had 4. All went well over 200k before I switched to something else with only one ever needing anything other than regular maintenance. Good solid trucks with a great resale. My 2004 TRD Off Road Tacoma Xtra Cab was my favorite although my 83 and my 2007 FJ were a ton of fun also. They all took me to so many amazing places a car wouldn't have. Freedom!
My next truck is probably going to be a Toyota as well. I don't need a full size so I'm probably gonna get a Tacoma. I've owned mostly GM products, but their reliability is subpar.
@@TruckKing no man, thank you for delivering good unbiased content. As the channel grows, you’ll start getting approached by various manufacturers. I can only hope that you remain true. Ronny Dahl and Andrew White (for example) may not have the financial support that that most of the sell outs do, but they have the respect and love of the people which in turn made them legends. Some things are simply more important than money.
I love my tundra. However it does make me sad seeing the competitors features. It's not just one feature either, it's a lot. Yes it's a battled veteran that keeps going. There is several million mile tundras out there but let's be honest, most normal people buying full size off road trucks aren't going to put a million miles on it. The fact of the matter is, with today's trucks most of them perform pretty close to each other when compared correctly so it then boils down to mpg and features which the tundra lacks. If toyota does not heavily improve the tundra by the time I buy a new vehicle I will be forced away from buying toyota.
I'm hoping the next gen tundra pulls through! I've been waiting to buy a truck for 2 years, and when i heard of the upcoming gen, i decided to wait to see what Toyota has to offer.
Same. I have an 07 tundra and man, it is a tank but even then, I can't justify 40-50k on something so outdated. Lets hope the new redesign makes the tundra more competitive.
that rear window (when rolled down along with the 2 front windows) easily eliminates that “wind bass” noise u get that bother your ears when cruising highway speed
Steven Venuto Wish I had the sliding rear window but I’m glad I don’t have it cause everything in my bed blows into truck with the smaller one that just slides left to right.
I don't think I would go with the TRD PRO. Based on the towing/payload. All that motor and gears for me should have better numbers. Like the color. Probably more in your dad's camp when it comes to extras. Maybe too much. I have a solid and straight 1977 W200 that is a beast of a work truck along with a rust free 1998 jeep Grand Cherokee I just bought for my daily driver. Followed you over from TFL. Enjoying your guys videos.
Following Steven from TFL. I hope your channel does well! Cavalry Blue for sure! Even my wife says how she likes that color when we see a Toyota in it. I love the rear window but I also love a sunroof and window down driving.
Followed you over from TFL, great to see you still doing these offroad reviews! Nobody else sends these things quite like you! As far as the TRD color, it's a tough call. My favorites are voodoo, quicksand, and cement. I think they're really only special on the 4Runners though, because on the Tundra and the Tacoma, this year's TRD special color is next year's new color option across the line. On the 4Runner, it's a Pro color, and then it's gone. That said, I think my pick would be a quicksand 4Runner. I never even looked at or cared about 5th gen 4Runners, however the first time I saw a Quicksand 4Runner sitting on my local dealer's lot, I was like wow! yeah, I would totally drive that.
Great videos!! There is a switch to the left of the steering wheel for bed lighting. I have this truck and one other pro is it's turn radius is best in class which is great for off road and daily parking.
good video Steven I will take the Toyota build quality and reliability over a few mpgs and a 8,9,10 speed auto, the competition spends more time back at the dealership than Toyota and Toyota has proven it can do the off road part the same as the big 3 and the components are far more rugged and you test them better than most out there in the youtube world you can shit kick the Tundra 6 speed auto and still work you proved that with the 4 Runner winter video, dude that just rocked, no body has come close to that, my buddy has a 2018 Tundra TRD and has put 30,000km on it in the last 2 winters and we are in Manitoba so get what you do and lots more temperature extremes and lots of ice fishing and snowmobiling and it hasn't let us down yet and he does not baby his truck , he definitely keeps up the maintenance on it and it sounds great when you put your foot into it. 👍
All the TRD pro colors suck. I like white trucks. I went with a Limited DC and added TRD Pro shocks an exhaust. Saved a ton of cash. The rest is just cosmetics and like. My 2015 does everything the rest does with no big problems, just turned 100K, back up just started acting up but I’m sure it’s cause I dented the bumper trusting electronics vs real driving experience. Not doing that again.
Does it need to be updated? Absolutely. But Toyota doesn’t change things every 2 years like big 3. And they live in the repair shops. Toyota finds what works and they stay with it for a while. That’s how they just kill everybody else on reliability. They are not looking to keep up with the pack. Give me that RELIABILITY ANY DAY !!!
Truck bed anchor points need to be lowered. Its hard to secure small loads of lumber without the ability to apply down pressure with ratchet straps. Even adding an addition set lower like Honda Ridgeline would be more useful.
I have this exact truck. How could liking the rear sliding window even be a debate? It’s awesome and one of the best features of the tundra. Great for long fishing rods, lumber, ladders etc. it’s a great option to have and I love it. People compliment the rear window roll down all the time. Why wouldn’t you want it to slide all the way down.
gas mileage is not a discussion. None of the trucks with V8 get good mileage. You dont buy a full size truck for mileage. Nobody bases their choice of a full size truck on that.
Awesome video! My videos suck when compared to yours - LOL. I have the same truck and love it - it will be collectors item soon when the 2022’s come out.
I prefer the cement color. I have a 2016 trd pro in quicksand and I've never had a single problem with it. I added the firestone airbags to get rid of the squat. I like being able to roll the back window down. I roll all the windows down when I go trout fishing in the summer time. It's nice having all that air come through the cab down here in the southeast.
The only thing i'm really hoping for regarding changes to the next gen tundra, is at least an 8 speed transmission, a complete interior refresh (i'm looking at you, hideous dashboard!), and perhaps some better towing numbers. There is one thing that would be a deal breaker for me though, and that would be if they get rid of that sweet 5.7 V8. Rumors strongly suggest they will, which is a real shame because it's a strong and reliable engine. It just needs to be paired with a more modern transmission and perhaps some tuning. But looks like we'll have to wait and see!
Reasons for a drop down rear window: 1.Drop down window is a must in the 4Runner bc it allows you to carry lumber that is 12 to 16 feet long. 2. Rear drop down window on a Tundra great for when you live in climates that are normally north of 100 degrees. Get in the car 🔥 inferno immediately open all windows, blast AC, let heat escape while doing burn outs to create more turbulent airflow to prevent passing out from heat. This is my routine multiple times of day just to exist in Texas and Florida 3. Rear drop down window on Tundra perfect for camper hardtop shell’s so you have access to the inside of the truck without having to go outside. 4. Love the rear window in the 4Runner for when you have backed into parking space up against a wall, still allows access to the rear of the vehicle 🙏 ✊ 👍
Yeah payload is low as I assume she is made to be soft for gravel roads. The normal double cab model as 1320 or 1290 with the 8’ box. More likely that version would be the working mans truck. Also the window in back is useful for dog owners or people vacationing with the family on nice days.
If the tundra is going to be anything like the Tacoma, I’m not sure it will be Worth the wait. Im more of a function over looks guy. Anyhow it’s nice watching your videos. I been dreaming that they will eventually get their head out of the sand and build a truck.
Let’s remember the 4.30 differential is made for towing. If any of your glorious big three have a towing option with similar gears it would get crappy gas mileage exactly like this tundra.
Hey Man, another great video from you, kindly keep them coming, my color is Quicksand. I totally agree with your Dad 100 % regarding the power train and fuel consumption, I hope Toyota takes his advice, especially with the Diesel engine, it's long overdue.
TRD Tundra should not be rated to tow 9000lbs. With that low GVRW you would be lucky to tow 5000lbs legally and if you had 4 people in the truck you can’t tow anything! I guess this is a off road truck only...
