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Multiple Sclerosis or MS Is Caused By A Virus 

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Multiple Sclerosis, or MS, is a disease of the brain and spinal cord and can be very disabling. In MS, the immune system attacks the nerves and can eventually lead to permanent damage.
New medical evidence has emerged that demonstrates that MS is caused by the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV).
The surgeons discuss this new finding and the implications of such
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@59marguerite
@59marguerite 2 года назад
My husband died from complications of Primary Progressive MS. He battled it bravely for 25 years but the disease was relentless. I hope they find a cure soon.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
So sorry to hear that Marguerite. It is such a difficult condition. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@59marguerite
@59marguerite 2 года назад
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you!
@Pennystockid
@Pennystockid Год назад
I am so so sorry to hear this! They won’t find a cure, there is way too much money in it. Doctors/nuerologist aren’t even taught how to help, quite honestly don’t even know how. Big Pharma has them and tells them to give people certain pills/injections, that’s it. Stem Cell‘s/Dry fasting is the best route!
@proudman6651
@proudman6651 Год назад
@Michelle Showalter couldn’t find her channel. Please let me know how to find it
@releasingendorphins232
@releasingendorphins232 Год назад
My dad suffered for years with Progressive MS. It was horrible for him and horrible for my sister and I as we weren't much help. I'm so grateful he is not longer her to suffer, but I miss him still. He died in 1997. RIP our Loved Ones.
@jaytibbles2223
@jaytibbles2223 2 года назад
50 years ago my medical school class was greeted by the dean. He said "Half of what we are about to teach you is wrong. Unfortunately we don't know which half that is" Mono can be difficult to diagnose. I had one case that required SIX (6) tests at least a week apart to confirm the diagnosis. Many required 3 or more. The reason I have these "anecdotes" is other docs referred (dumped) hard cases to me. Some "colleagues" referred to me as "Dr. Know-it-all". They did not like me but sent their families to me! I defied "cookbook" medicine. I was threatened will having to pay therapeutic costs for treatments not pre-authorized by protocols. (A nurse paging through a loose leaf notebook made such determinations) There is no political agenda attached to EB or MS. That is why this is not "NEWS"
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us Dr JAY. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@ritadolphinstotts8223
@ritadolphinstotts8223 Год назад
Bahahahaha true! I have no trust in western medicine, it’s a cult
@etm567
@etm567 Год назад
You sound like my brother, who eventually had his license revoked -- because he was right, and the doctors over him hated him for that and blamed their outright failures on him. I guess he was lucky not to be "suicided," as so many holistic doctors are these days.
@SuperMichelleDJ
@SuperMichelleDJ 2 месяца назад
Holistic doctors win every time! They make people stay healthy instead of keeping them sick.
@emeliacowans2813
@emeliacowans2813 Год назад
Wow!! I had Mono when I was 16 and actually missed my prom. Fast forward to 2016, when I was 44, I was diagnosed with MS. So now that we know this, I'm confident that a cure is in the near future! Thanks for sharing this!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Let’s hope so Emelia. Sorry you missed prom. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@Trezn
@Trezn Год назад
Doubt
@lorrainejohnson829
@lorrainejohnson829 Год назад
Me too Mono in HS at 18 yrs old- then many treatments incl Avonex as long as i could endure self injections UGH. finally gave up and accepted my fate. now im 50- still dont believe im still here
@debdees7182
@debdees7182 Год назад
I had mono quite severely when I was 9. I wasn’t kissing anyone but Mom. No one else in my family had it. We hadn’t even heard of mono. The doc called it glandular fever because Mom didn’t understand what he said the first time. I couldn’t walk on my own because I was so weak. My daughter had it when she was 5. No one else in our family of 6. So far so good for both of us.
@noniesundstrom119
@noniesundstrom119 Год назад
I got mono long haul 40 years ago working at my kids’ elementary school. Along with a handful of teachers, who I definitely did not kiss! The result is that I have had CFS and IBS all these years. 40 years ago I was told it was all in my head, till I connected with good doctors and dieticians. It will never be gone, but I can manage and am feeling lucky at 76 yrs old to have been able to stay fairly active on my strict diet. 😊
@gabrielleg.1347
@gabrielleg.1347 Год назад
Lyme disease has also been shown to be one potential root cause for MS. Wish this was also discussed more. In the root cause health community MS has long been discussed as being triggered by an EBV infection. But often its multiple things that come into play. Most people with Lyme Disease also have EBV for instance. Lots of cross over with all of them.
@geneboris185
@geneboris185 Год назад
Lyme Disease mimics over 200 different illnesses including MS. Many who are diagnosed with MS or Fibromyalgia, neuropathies ect...actually have Lyme Disease. Virtually no doctor will recognize that it is real. And virtually no insurance company will cover your treatments. IT'S A BIOWEAPON...experimented at plum island in New York. Just like Covid is a bio weapon. The world is far more satanic than most realize or would ever want to know
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Most diseases like this involve two or three hits
@HighFiveFriend
@HighFiveFriend Год назад
💚 🙌
@extractorfan2143
@extractorfan2143 Год назад
Yea, true many things can increase the probability, spinal injuries, meningitis, tetanus vaccine, seems like if ya trigger ebv hard enough your in, like the Hotel California, "such a lovely place" with enough atrophy maybe😳
@jeffreypinder9398
@jeffreypinder9398 Год назад
Spot on with this Gabrielle. I read a few posts before I typed a long response. I and many people I know have/had Lyme Disease but never had EBV but shows blood positive results. Lyme is major cause of nerve damage.
@debbiehenri345
@debbiehenri345 Год назад
For those who are going to kick up about the possibility of a "vaccine" against Mono, perhaps you would want to read about my son's experience with this illness. He caught Mono at age 18 after attending a conference, quickly developing a swollen neck and the other usual symptoms. Instantly, he was bed-ridden, unable to stand or walk. We took him to the doctor, listened to his diagnosis and advice, and expected him to recover in a couple of weeks. Not so. He started to act strangely. He would try to get up only to fall from his bed. We brought him to the sitting room and put him between us on the sofa. But there again, he would shoot to his feet and managed to launch himself over the coffee table and crashing into the TV set. He then started to go out of his mind, laughing hysterically, his temperature rising, and (unknown to us) was developing secondary infections - we rushed him to hospital, where he stayed the weekend and stabilised. After that, he came home and spent weeks just sleeping. He'd wake up about an hour a day, where we forced him to go toilet, wash, and eat as quickly as possible before he started to drift off again. That was my life at that point, sitting worriedly by my son's bedside, determined not to let him lose too much weight and keeping him hydrated. It was so difficult to wake him, we just had to sit and stand by, at the ready. The worry was devastating my husband. However, when my son came out of this sleeping stage, he'd forgotten nearly everything. I'm not just taking about the time of his illness, I'm talking about sketchily knowing who we were - and that's about it. This illness had wiped all but the very strongest memories and the closest associations. All his training, his years of study in computing and IT - all gone, vanished, never to be recovered. He still doesn't remember a lot of his earlier life, even 10 years on. He sank into depression and, for 2 years, had serious brain fog that would make it difficult for him to understand what we were saying. He would forget what the subject of a sentence as he was saying it and had difficulty stringing a sentence together. He couldn't concentrate. He has anxiety problems to this day. He retrained eventually, but found learning more difficult second time around. His illness held him back a great deal and only now has he managed to get his first job at age 27. I thought my son just had an extraordinarily extreme case. However, it seems I was to be surprised to find that other people had suffered Mono badly as well. A close friend had it in her teens and suffered deep depression for 5 years, her daughter the same. A person my husband met and talked to on the bus had exactly the same thing happen to him as well. If there is any way that the medical profession can create a vaccine to stamp out this miserable disease - I'm all for it. I only wish my son had been able to have it before it changed his life.
@dstarr8222
@dstarr8222 Год назад
So sorry. Thanks so much for sharing though. I think really understanding what this disease can do can only help to persuade those who are unsure about vaccines
@PVVI2015
@PVVI2015 Год назад
That is tragic😔 My deepest sympathies🙏🏼
@davidrumsey3180
@davidrumsey3180 Год назад
It sounds as though he may have progressed directly to a severe form of ME/CFS. For many people, they seem to recover from EBV, but it gets reactivated later in life as ME/CFS, which can vary from mild impairment of energy right through to completely bedridden with barely enough energy to take the next breath, severe cognitive problems, gut issues, inability to tolerate light, sound and touch, anxiety, depression and many other distressing symptoms. Mt daughter had bad Mono (glandular fever) at 16, and at 20 developed severe ME/CFS and was completely bedridden for a few months. She has also developed POTS, Mast Cell Activation, Reynauds, Paroxysmal sympathetic hyperactivity and severe Celiac disease. If it wasn't for the EBV, she would probably be Celiac but otherwise healthy.. Glad to hear that you son is well on the path to recovery.. hope he continues to improve.
@enlightenedhummingbird4764
@enlightenedhummingbird4764 9 месяцев назад
Check nutritional profile of body, and repair deficiencies, should be first step. Most people on this planet are like sickly, malnourished puppies, walking around in a toxic soup with their eyes closed. How can injecting more foreign stuff, without strenghtening the body first, help in the long term? Useful in an acute situation. But strenghtening the body naturally should be first and foremost.
@Dasani_water_drinker
@Dasani_water_drinker 8 месяцев назад
Theres clinical trials that have a vaccine that people are reporting has given them back their lives.
@Bella-gj6wc
@Bella-gj6wc Год назад
I graduated high school in 1976, along with 87 other kids. When we turned 53, 4 of us (for sure, that we’re aware of) were diagnosed the same YEAR! Three of these kids live in Alberta, Canada. I moved to the southern USA, twenty years ago. Out of all of us: 1 has the primary/progressive kind,the other two, I’m not sure; but out of the 4 of us, I’m doing the best. I attribute this to being in the USA, the care I receive, my overall attitude in that “I have MS, MS doesn’t have me”, and the fact I just keep going. When they were in the diagnosing phase with me, they did every blood test known to man, and my Epstein Barr came back negative. I didn’t need a diagnosis, I knew it was MS, as the only place on this continent, with a higher incidence of it outside of Alberta, Canada, is Saskatchewan, Canada. My MS leaves me exhausted, I have loads of involvement with my vision in my R eye, but I can still see, and lead my life. I’m very faithful to my medication regimen, and in 12 years, I’ve never missed a dose. I have some tingling in my extremities, but I get on my treadmill everyday for 30 minutes. I don’t ever (nor have I) have a pity party, what would be the point, and allowing that kind of negativity to creep in, might bring a relapse to my door. I’ve survived the death of my husband, the vid TWICE, and am remarried to a wonderful man, who looks after me, although in truth I don’t need much looking after. I hope this trend continues, and I wish everyone who has it smooth sailing. There is no cancer or heart disease in my family; but there are autoimmunine disorders. Believe me, I’m lucky I have MS and not sclaraderma, or Parkinson’s. I never forget IT CAN ALWAYS BE WORSE.
@lafarms
@lafarms Год назад
Apparently, Alberta and Ireland have the highest rates of MS in the world. Turner Valley being the hot spot here in Alberta. There has been some thought that there is a relationship to gas fields.
@ookamisan7696
@ookamisan7696 Год назад
​@@lafarms Just in order to complement your data, Iran is the second in the world and it stays isolated with high ranks. I always thought this to be strange and out of pattern, but since you've mentioned gas fields, I guess oil fields should also be considered. This way, Iran's position in MS rank might make sense...? 🤔
@Bella-gj6wc
@Bella-gj6wc Год назад
@@lafarms I’ve always wondered about the Petro Chemical plant in Joffre, and it’s “burn offs” and whether that plays a part too? My neurologist said “someone in my family has had it (like me), and gone to their grave, never knowing they had it!” I’m just so grateful it’s been stable all these years.
@ransomdaniels8395
@ransomdaniels8395 Год назад
I had a friend and co-worker who has MS. She has struggled with it for years, and at one point had believed that a strict dietary change would help and embarked on a special food regimen. The last time I talked with her there were some positive results in some of the symptoms. I will send this video to her and hope it helps in her attempt to deal with this disease. Thank you! 😂❤❤❤❤❤
@1MinuteFlipDoc
@1MinuteFlipDoc Год назад
Keto diet helps
@dianemackey
@dianemackey Год назад
Read the book written by Dr. Terry Wahl, "The Wahls Protocol". She was in a wheel chair, in the late stages of MS, and cured herself.
@MartineH1
@MartineH1 Год назад
Yes, keto. Some studies show it
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Time will tell. Let’s hope
@RachelJane101
@RachelJane101 11 месяцев назад
@@dianemackeyShe is also on disease modifying therapy, a fact that frequently gets glossed over.
@mjrailey4958
@mjrailey4958 Год назад
My cousin had mono as a teenager. In her forties, she developed M.S. She fought it for 20+ years. It recently claimed her life. 😩 Thanks so much for the video!
@cherylturgeon6237
@cherylturgeon6237 2 года назад
My father had MS in his late 30’s early 40’s. He passed away over 40 yrs ago from a blood clot to the lung at 44 yrs old. My brother in law has MS. This is such good news that they may know how to treat it now. Thank you for doing this video 💗
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Cheryl. So sorry to hear about your dad and brother in law. Let’s hope it can lead to something. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@M_SC
@M_SC 2 года назад
Tragic
@proudman6651
@proudman6651 Год назад
I believe Behçet’s disease is more related to blood clots than MS. Many Behcet’s patients specially Neuro-Behcet’s are mistakenly diagnosed with MS because it causes similar lesions in the brain.
@bradojacko8247
@bradojacko8247 Год назад
Trust Pfizer again, everyone! They're on top of vaccinations!
@lafytaffy1220
@lafytaffy1220 Год назад
Sorry for your loss.
@charlieprice55
@charlieprice55 2 года назад
Thanks for your presentations on medical issues. I love the comedy and the chemistry you share. I started watching about 2 months ago wanting to know about the mako Stryker for knee replacement. I was comforted and prepared for what was about to take place. I had a left knee replacement on January 11 2022. I fell it was how you described it. There was pain but not so bad. I also watched the spinal. I was worried about that but felt nothing. Just had my 2 week check up. Doctor said I was doing great. I told him I was excited about the right knee coming up on 22 February 2022. He said he hadn’t heard that before. About me, I’m a 66 year old male, 5’7”, 265 lbs. thanks for the medical info and keeping me smiling though these procedures.BTW my wife is an oncology nurse which was wonderful for the care I received at home.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Charlie. That is so great to hear. So glad we could help in any way. All the best to you and that is cool you have your own nurse to take care of you. Hang on to her! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@sukijohnson5398
@sukijohnson5398 Год назад
I was diagnosed with MS a year ago, after having symptoms for over 10 yrs. I had a bad case of mono at age 17, and the ebv reactivated many times in the years since then. So this is really interesting!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Hope things are going ok Suki. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@thrillcker68
@thrillcker68 Год назад
My daughter fought MS for half her life and died at 34. I pray for a cure. 😢
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
So sorry to hear that.
@fayemcdonald6527
@fayemcdonald6527 2 года назад
This is so interesting regarding MS. I lost a cousin to complications from MS and have always wondered why she got it when no one else in our family ever had this. So amazing and thanks so much for sharing this discovery.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Faye. So sorry to hear that. Hopefully this will lead to real change. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@tinachesser8957
@tinachesser8957 Год назад
MS is not hereditary, from what I've read anyway.
@RachelJane101
@RachelJane101 11 месяцев назад
@@tinachesser8957Not directly inherited, but many genetic variants have been identified which predisposes one to developing MS. Environmental factors such as infectious mononucleosis, vitamin D deficiency and exposure to tobacco smoke then act as triggers to this who are genetically predisposed. It’s like the perfect storm of risk factors.
@kubotajordan9502
@kubotajordan9502 2 года назад
I thank both of you for taking the time out of y'alls busy day to do these videos. I tell every one I know , These two hands up in Canada got it going on !!! I watched every video y'all have put up since I've discovered your channel and watch the older ones as well. Cheers docs , wishing both of you and your families a blessed week !!!!!!!!!!! P.S. stay warm & safe
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Thanks you SO much Kubota Jordan. All the best to you! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@charlayned
@charlayned Год назад
OMG. That makes sense. I was diagnosed with 'probable MS' back when I was 28, 1985. The probable was because, while I didn't have much in the way of lesions on my brain, there were all sorts of markers in my spinal fluid. I have the numbing, falling, eyes going out of focus, and the "zaps" (the random electrical shocks from nerves doing their own thing). We've had to resort to an electric wheelchair for anything longer than about 100 ft. About 10-15 years ago, our GP did some blood tests after we were discussing what was going on and he said that there was something "interesting" and that I had had Epstein-Barr virus, which was probably from an episode I remembered from high school when I was horribly tired and just feeling bad. Mono. So now this makes perfect sense and I'm going to talk to him again about what to do about it.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Well that’s interesting. The link is not totally understood but hopefully it can lead to something
@annem7806
@annem7806 Год назад
Look into clinical trials if your doctor thinks it's safe. That's where the cutting edge is.
@RachelJane101
@RachelJane101 11 месяцев назад
@@annem7806Clinical trials tend to exclude those over aged 55 unfortunately.
@annecosgrove2133
@annecosgrove2133 Год назад
Thank you so much for telling us about this news! My sister in law and her dad have this disease, and I’m so glad that this means we may someday have a vaccine. I worked in a church in a small town in northern Maryland, and the town doctor had a much higher statistical incidence of MS in this small town, thought it might be related to a viral infection, and spent most of his career sending data to the federal government agency to help researchers. He was also involved in drug trials. Blessings on you in your work to help us and your patients.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Hard to know the exact cause but there are multiple factors for sure.
@mitziheinack3979
@mitziheinack3979 2 года назад
WOW !!!! My sister battled with MS for 15 years. She passed away on March 1, 2021. She was misdiagnosed for 4 years so it progressed without treatment. I miss her so much. Thank you for sharing this information.
@1packatak
@1packatak 2 года назад
So sorry for your loss. MS is so very hard on everyone.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Mitzi. We are so sorry to hear that. It can be a devastating disease. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@ankebachmann4833
@ankebachmann4833 2 года назад
Very interesting. Thank you for informing us! A friend has it and he has significantly gone down hill the last year. Never was he informed it could be a virus. Keep up the great work of schooling us in a very positive and funny way!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Sorry to hear about your friend ANKE. It can be a very difficult disease to deal with. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@kathyobrien1063
@kathyobrien1063 2 года назад
Perhaps he was never informed because this study was just completed?
@stefanilesser1396
@stefanilesser1396 Год назад
My grandma died before I was born from a quickly progressing form of MS. I pray this will lead to a vaccination to prevent this disease in the future.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Us too
@angelbabycards3595
@angelbabycards3595 Год назад
Yes, I just watched the video and wanted to read everyone's comments below. Yup, me too.. I was diagnosed in March of 2016. Worse, back in 1997- early 1999, I was the Branch Services Director for National MS here in Central California. ...Our members would call the office, I felt so bad for them. I would sit and man the 1-800 FIGHT MS number for our area and listen to some of the people who would call in and tell me about how they've been struggling with the symptoms and the effects. Our chapter office had an RN who had MS. We would sometimes stand outside, well...I would, he would sit in his chair, and we talked about it. That was awhile back. I never thought I would ever get MS until I ended up in the hospital and underwent two MRI's, a Spinal Tap, and after a week of testing, the MS Specialist in our region opined and gave the information to my treating physician. He came in and said: I'm sorry to tell you this, but you've been diagnosed and have MS.. ..."Oh... that's just great, I said..." How's that even possible. I'm the Branch Services person for the agency. I'm not the one who HAS MS.. So, I began to just live in denial. ..I've had all the symptoms.. sure.. But the difference is: I do research for a living. I write policies and procedures for large municipal organizations and have almost my law degree. And so, rather than accepting what they told me about my problem, I refused to accept the diagnosis and began looking for answers to the problem. Well, I did find a few that worked for me. After reading up on methods and treatments, I began to put two and two together. Everyone was talking about and creating information, videos, and reports about Lyme Disease and Spyrochetes. That told me something. Seemed these microscopic worms that invade the body are often responsible for neurological problems as a result of say tick bites, possibly human transmission, and the like. Either way, I thought and reasoned: Every Beginning Has an Ending, and Every Ending Had a Beginning.. So, I began retracing my steps. Everything seemed to be pointing at moments in time where that was some form of either insect or human contact, where I later began having signs and symptoms. That made me realize: "Something" obviously microscopic must have been transmitted or I came into contact with something. And so, I began to ask myself: When in the past did I come in contact with something microscopic, and what have they always given me to take to abate the problem. Answer: They always give me a substance that either produces a counter agent, or the product is a substance that is harmful to what is causing me illness. ...Well, as I recall, I did have a brief problem with pinworms back in 2011-2013. They caused problems with my breathing and I was having itchiness, etc. Well, seemed the problem became really bad one week. I told my friend, goto the store, I think I know what this problem must be.. Seems I must have maybe pinworms.. So, he went to the store, he came back. And viola! I took the Pin-X and within maybe 5-10 minutes flat, the difficulty breathing stopped as if by magic. I honestly felt like House, as I was able to diagnose the problem and cure myself. Later, after the MS diagnosis, I began asking myself: Ok, how in the hell did this MS thing begin..? Answer? I remember the same left leg was bitten by a tick I think the summer before. I kissed my new girlfriend and I ended up with herpes cold sores in my mouth for four weeks. Then, I ate a moldy orange and within say four weeks, it was clear the mold created a severe reaction. I self treated with natural medicines and although the acute food poisoning went away, I ended up demanding to goto the hospital.. Well, as it turned out, I was given a prednisone drip for a week, underwent all the MS tests, they were confirmed, I went home, and after say 4 months, I was able to taste food again, walk again, and I was able to return to my life, though the MS diagnosis seemed correct. I lost my endurance, I developed problems speaking, problems with my vision, and some other things. Well, to make a long story short, I realized something: spyrochetes. Microscopic worms... Question: When did I ever have worms? What did I do to get rid of the microscopic worms..? *Suddenly...it came to me... I remembered some authors on the Internet sayin Lyme Disease may be the cause for MS related problems. So: I concluded: If microscopic worms can cause neurological problems, if I can find a substance that these microscopic worms like to eat that are living in my spinal cord and brain, I just might be able to either keep them to a low roar, or kill them altogether..
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Thanks for sharing. All the best
@lorrainejohnson829
@lorrainejohnson829 Год назад
Wow so similar- i too had mono and a tick bite- me and bf found it- then many treatments like ABCs etc. Now Im 50 have cognition and balance probs but im pretty ok! Will keep fighting 😜
@mybachhertzbaud3074
@mybachhertzbaud3074 Год назад
I'm sorry to hear that you have joined the club that no one wants to be in. You listed that you have done a lot of research on this so, perhaps you might be able to direct me to where one might get data on the prevalence of this disease over time. Considering how poorly even today, the difficulties that it takes to get a definitive dx, how if at all, was it found say in the last century? I am particularly interested to see if there was any increase after anti-biotics were discovered and their massive increase in use. Any help would be appreciated. 😁 Fight On
@leaheames8995
@leaheames8995 Год назад
You need an anti-parasitic medication. The one they banned that helped with the c helps with ms as well. I was Dx in 2000.
@LetFreedomRingEternal
@LetFreedomRingEternal Год назад
@@leaheames8995 For how long and was it difficult to endure?
@jonm4501
@jonm4501 2 года назад
I was DX'd with MS at age 49 and I am now 63. I have progressed and heavily limp and use a cane/walker. When I was DX'd I was educated on what MS was and how and why I had it. I learned then that MS was "likely" related to EBV. This study provides concrete evidence that EBV is a factor. I say factor in that it also appears, that MS occurs over time when several factors come into play. Now that EBV is clearly shown to be one of those factors, perhaps a "cure" can be developed from this angle to prevent MS from occuring in the first place.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Sorry to hear this Jon. Yes most diseases have “multiple hits” like getting exposed to EBV, having a specific genetic profile etc. let’s hope this leads to therapy and prevention. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@KoolT
@KoolT Год назад
Take a lot of C daily
@roberture5903
@roberture5903 Год назад
@@KoolT I thought D3 was more important than vitamin C, I was told that too much vitamin C would overstimulate the immune system. Just interested Joy, maybe you know something that I don't. Would love to hear your thoughts. Take care.
@derrys3085
@derrys3085 Год назад
It's Roundworms
@diannefitzmaurice9813
@diannefitzmaurice9813 Год назад
"May be a factor " not IS a factor ! Medical science does not "cure" anything ! It often leads to some treatments, usually lifelong -- but you can be sure will benefit big pharma!
@PapasDino
@PapasDino 2 года назад
I'm going to be looking forward to seeing this covered in the major media, thanks for letting us know!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Us too Dino! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@lindawilson9656
@lindawilson9656 Год назад
One of my fathers sisters had MS and her daughter also developed it. The daughter of another of his older sisters also developed it. There is a lot of autoimmune disease in that family- diabetes,arthritis,fibromyalgia ( which I have) We come😮 from an area that has an unusually high number of people with MS, Colchester/ Cumberland Counties ,Nova Scotia ,Canada
@LadyDeath6666
@LadyDeath6666 10 месяцев назад
I wish my specialists were this interested in medicine and listened to their patients. I get nothing but gaslighting from them. Took 8 years to get my scleroderma diagnosis due to a rheummy ignoring my symptoms and 4 cardios and 2 neuros to finally listen to me on my dysautonomia (long before covid).
@michaeloesterle6652
@michaeloesterle6652 2 года назад
This makes sense. I was diagnosed with MS 6 years ago but had symptoms for much, much longer. I had mono as a kid, got sent to a hemotologist/oncologist who after many tests settled on mono. Now at 48 I have a helluva time walking. I really fear for the future as I live alone. Day by day is all we can ever do.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Wow Michael sorry to hear this. Hope it stabilizes for you. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@bjbboz3404
@bjbboz3404 2 года назад
I'm praying for you too be healed once and for all.
@joantendler6518
@joantendler6518 2 года назад
Taking threonine has been shown to lower spasticity, and serine, glycine, and lysine are also very important for autoimmune diseases-lysine and serine are needed to replace myelin. I take these every night-they're the catalytic amino acids for many enzymes, so they help with many health problems.
@youknowtherules8888
@youknowtherules8888 2 года назад
@@bjbboz3404 There’s no healing MS. Once the damage to the nerves are done. There’s no going back. Only hope is slow the progression of the disease
@mytravls
@mytravls Год назад
What is Mono?
@peggygregory5719
@peggygregory5719 2 года назад
Interesting. My sister in law was diagnosed with MS about a year ago. I know she would also find this interesting. Love your videos.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
So sorry to hear that Peggy. Best of luck to your sister. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@lucieni
@lucieni Год назад
My mum was diagnosed with secondary progressive MS in her early 40’s. She’s had a very slow progression of the disease so that now at the age of 79 she still lives independently but has significant problems with movement down the right side of her body. Its also a disease of the northern hemisphere which I find very interesting! I was diagnosed in 2019 at the age of 47 with T1 diabetes (LADA) and I’m 99.9% positive my autoimmune gene(s) (I also have the gene for Coeliac disease) were inherited from her.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Sorry to hear this. Hope things continue to go ok for you both. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@lucieni
@lucieni Год назад
@@TalkingWithDocs Wow I didn’t expect a reply! I just think it’s interesting how autoimmunity plays out from generation to generation! Thanks so much!
@annmariemoreno3904
@annmariemoreno3904 Год назад
I also have secondary MS and don't take any medicine drug free taking natural supplements doing once better 🙏
@missbee980
@missbee980 Год назад
Is it really autoimmunity that goes from generation to generation or is it more likely that trauma tends to be repeated in families and ways of dealing with stress are learned and some families have better learned coping mechanisms than others. I think a high allostatic load is a major cause of ms but doctors seem to separate the mind from the body but they both work together. Until doctor's pay more attention to this correlation, there will continue to be diseases, especially autoimmune diseases with "unknown causes". I am hopeful that the relatively young field of psychoneuroimmunology will help prove this correlation. Viruses are just another form of stress. EBV is known to cause prolonged health issues, therefore prolonged stress.
@missbee980
@missbee980 Год назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allostatic_load
@bflogal18
@bflogal18 Год назад
This is such a huge breakthrough because MS is so difficult to diagnose! Symptoms can be very vague and can be so different from person to person. My original Primary care diagnosed me. I had to find a new doctor due to insurance, who claimed he wasn’t convinced of the diagnosis because I was asymptomatic at the time. Today I’m in my 60s, my balance is bad, my eyesight is affected as well as a host of other symptoms. I pretty much gave up on the medical establishment. My fault, but I just can’t stand the thought of going through all those tests again.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
It's a start. Likely a long way yet but let's hope
@esty6374
@esty6374 2 года назад
I was diagnosed with MS 12 years ago. I’m 45 now Walking is very very difficult now. I was never officially diagnosed with the Epstein-Barr virus so I don’t know if I had it or not, but I remember in my late teens into my early 20s I would get fatigue so terribly that I could hardly function.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Esty. So sorry to hear that. Hopefully this can lead to some change. Best to you. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@Velkro5000
@Velkro5000 Год назад
Hi, do you follow a curated strict Anti-Inflammatory diet with added supplants, exercise and sleep schedule?
@alinedeleandro123
@alinedeleandro123 Год назад
Esty Why don't you give I.v.e.r.m.e.c.t.i.n a try! It seems to work for Lyme disease.
@Antiquesartandbeer
@Antiquesartandbeer 2 года назад
Guys - in listening to your MS video, it has raised a question in my mind. Could epilepsy be caused by a virus as well? Are we on the verge of discovering that most of our horrific, debilitating diseases are the result of a virus that found it’s way into our system? I have a 37 year old son who has grand mal seizures on a regular basis. Sometimes I feel his medicines are systemically destroying him. It would be wonderful to have a vaccine for thus someday. I just cannot find anyone who is doing any deep research on epilepsy…😢 Beverly Sanders Texas
@M_SC
@M_SC 2 года назад
I’m no one, not a doctor, but I would imagine epilepsy has a bunch of different causes. and certainly one could be a virus
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Bev. It is possible. Most disease require two hits. The first one is genetic susceptibility and the other is an exposure or event of some sort. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@mariantreber8055
@mariantreber8055 Год назад
Not sure about MS but I feel that a lot of medical problems are caused by vaccines and my family stopped all of them in 2018. Only have had a couple of colds since then. None of the plandemic issue.
@JF-hz9ig
@JF-hz9ig Год назад
After seeing my healthy kiddo change overnight and diagnosed with PANS/PANDAS…all cause by a virus. The virus/infection causes inflammation in the brain and that was the source of the change in him…I absolutely know viruses cause issues and damage To the brain, if left untreated, or misdiagnosed.
@JF-hz9ig
@JF-hz9ig Год назад
@C. Lord absolutely! Along with the antibiotic always give high quality probiotics. I also gave him Turmeric, vitamin D, and fish oil.
@denisek292
@denisek292 Год назад
Yes, I had EBV at 17. However, as a child, at 18 months-old, 5 years-old, and 22 years-old, I had verified chickenpox. I’m now 52, and was officially diagnosed in 2010, even though at 30, I was misdiagnosed with SLE. On Jan 29th, 2001, while getting out of bed, I developed sudden paralysis in my right foot with painful numbness and tingling. At the time, dx was dependent on positive spinal tap, or MRI. At this point, I’ve transitioned to secondary progressive. It’s such a blessing that neurologists decided to start patients on DMD's based on signs and symptoms, before positive MRI’s, as disability is slowed considerably. My daughter had a good friend in college dx with MS, and was immediately started on DMD’s. He’s thriving in his engineering career, thank goodness! With the hard work it takes to study engineering, the thought of him becoming disabled at a young age is heartbreaking. A vacine for EBV is exciting. DMD’s are risky, but necessary currently. Maybe it’s too late for those of us with MS, but how exciting to dream of eradicating this disease. Great video filled with hope!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Yes very provocative
@mimismom5464
@mimismom5464 9 месяцев назад
I had a viral infection at 15. I had a high white count, high fever, was hospitalized, became delirious, and recovered after 4 days in the hospital. Within the month I developed mono. Fast forward to 25 and I developed pain, swelling and couldn’t walk on that foot. This progressed for years. One time my foot tripled in size. I cried in pain. Everything the Doctors tried to treat it never worked. MRI’s show nothing but I do have slight curve in my spine. I have nerve damage in my legs. Chronic migraines. I pushed myself until one day at work I lost the ability to comprehend what people were saying to me. My Neurologist pushed me to stop working. I have difficulty falling and staying asleep. My anxiety gets bad to the point I’ve been in the bathroom crying inconsolably. I’ve been diagnosed with fibromyalgia but the rest they try to treat with meds but there’s no definitive diagnosis.
@jsstar76
@jsstar76 2 года назад
Agree. Wish we were informed about medical updates as much as we’ve been hearing about the pandemic. Thank you very much for this information. Always appreciate your videos.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Thanks so much JS. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@M_SC
@M_SC 2 года назад
I heard about this 2 years ago. If you read a newspaper you hear about it
@nevaswift3382
@nevaswift3382 2 года назад
Thank you for this subject, my oldest step daughter was just diagnosed with MS and we were wondering how she got it because no one else in the family has it.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Neva. Sorry to hear that. All the best to your daughter. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@nna5408
@nna5408 Год назад
@Michelle Showalter would you please explain more about it ?
@stoms8238
@stoms8238 Год назад
Jabs
@stoms8238
@stoms8238 Год назад
I’m in the same boat perfect before jabs
@RachelJane101
@RachelJane101 11 месяцев назад
@@stoms8238People have been diagnosed with it hundreds of years before ‘jabs.’ 😒
@JeM9100
@JeM9100 Год назад
As someone with MS, I found the most interesting part of the study to be in the SIMILARITY between the protein in the EBV and the protein in Myelin. Thoughts?
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Hi Jake. Yes there is likely something there. We just havent found it yet. All the best
@kingsleytobin2300
@kingsleytobin2300 8 месяцев назад
And to eliminate EBV - colloidal silver !
@colleenstack210
@colleenstack210 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! I was dx with Multiple Sclerosis in March of 2021, my whole world came to hault. Randomly falling at the nurses station, paralysis from T4 bilateral lower extremities and I recall when I made it to the Universitys, Multiple Sclerosis clinic hearing about Epstein Barr link to Multiple Sclerosis. I showed signs of MS after my second jab for COVID on January 14th, 2021 was the second jab. February 3rd 2021 was in my doctors office with muscle spasticity and was told from being a Nurse you just hurt your back. Fast forward to March full on Multiple Sclerosis signs presented.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Colleen. Thanks for your years of service as a nurse. Sorry to hear about the MS. Hopefully this can lead to more targeted treatments. All the best. Thanks for watching and subscribing.
@johamilton1664
@johamilton1664 Год назад
Almost ditto here. Ugh!
@amith2rattlesnake
@amith2rattlesnake Год назад
Colleen, how are you doing now? I started symptoms right after booster dose.
@stoms8238
@stoms8238 Год назад
Can you contact I was perfect until after the Novavax now I just want to be dead I have pins and needles and weekness all over
@stoms8238
@stoms8238 Год назад
Sorry to hear this Colleen, what are you taking for the pain ?
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 2 года назад
Yes I'd read about that.... I know 2 persons who have it and aren't they also retired nurses, both in pretty bad shape too! One had told me she could not figure out why she was so tired all the time, seems to be an unlucky disease to catch/have! Nice medicine is growing and learning by leaps and bounds.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Josee. Hopefully this research can lead to better diagnosis treatment and prevention. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 2 года назад
Thanks guys! Apparently 90% of humans have had this virus, I also read we'd save so many lives if we'd just clean up the water! We drink/buy distilled here, all water here comes from Great Lakes, then TO and next town over has no sewage system, septic tanks on the Island of Montreal, well healed city too! 🤔
@Anonymous-mf8pd
@Anonymous-mf8pd Год назад
@@joseenoel8093 don't drink distilled water. Your body needs mineral
@tbone9603
@tbone9603 Год назад
My Mother died from MS in 1982 she was diagnosed with it in January of 1979, I CANNOT believe after 44 years the scientists and doctors cannot find a cure for this disease. They haven’t even made any major strides for curing this horrible disease. Disgraceful and very disappointed in our medical field worldwide!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Yes it’s very difficult.
@DamienTexas
@DamienTexas Год назад
I got diagnosed with MS when I was 24 while serving in the Marine Corps.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Sorry to hear that Damien. Thank you for your service. Hope you are ok. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@jamiecraswell9368
@jamiecraswell9368 2 года назад
Would love to see a talk on asthma living with it treating it
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
We will add it to the list jamie. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@joycewright5386
@joycewright5386 Год назад
I was diagnosed with MS in 2010 but my first symptom was 1991 after a hepatitis B vaccine. I never had EBV or Mono. I only take LDN and try to eat healthy. So far so good.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Glad to hear you are ok
@janicenicolle7156
@janicenicolle7156 Год назад
My sister has MS since 1982 this is incredible news thank you
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
We just hope it leads to something tangible
@__Wanderer
@__Wanderer Год назад
Diagnosed about a year ago now after severe optic neuritis. This was 2 weeks after a COVID infection. I suspect C19 also led to an EBV re-infection simultaneously. I wonder if C19 weakened by immune system to the point EBV could do damage / cause MS. Prior to this event I have never experienced any MS symptoms whatsoever, I am in my late 20s and male. Really hope they can design a cure for this horrific disease. Currently permanently blind in one eye from my first relapse.. Would love more coverage on MS!
@RockawayBeachNY
@RockawayBeachNY 11 месяцев назад
Yes, had so many neurological issues after covid. You are spot on your issues were caused by C-19. Best of luck!
@__Wanderer
@__Wanderer 11 месяцев назад
@@RockawayBeachNY it's definitely a nasty virus - I also know several others who have suffered from long covid / guillain barre syndrome after having an infection. Mad that this isn't talked about more often!
@helanna9843
@helanna9843 Год назад
I'm very interested in this. My sister had mononucleosis as a teenage and was diagnosed with Progressive M.S. at age 60. It was difficult to diagnose because she was not in the age category that usually presents with M.S. Is there any follow up for treatment that is currently being used to treat the disease and not just the symptoms?
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Not at this time
@HighFiveFriend
@HighFiveFriend Год назад
Look closely at Lyme/tickbourne disease
@petersinclair9018
@petersinclair9018 2 года назад
I had Glandular fever when I was 22. I was diagnosed with 2 benign bone tumours in 2006/7. I had a urine infection in 2009 and then developed ms. I don’t think it’s widely known but benign bone tumours hemangioma causes a massive immune response. So I think cancer has a hand in it also. I read a story once where a person had ms and cavernous hemangiona. They need to be surgically removed as they have a tendency be bleed. When the tumour was removed their ms symptoms lessened.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Peter. Sorry to hear this but thank you for sharing. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@jlt131
@jlt131 Год назад
I still haven't heard about this in the news! what gives?! i know several people living with MS, one that recently passed away from it. I hope this gets more traction and we see a preventative vaccine some day! and better treatment options!
@katiewalters9186
@katiewalters9186 Год назад
I had EBV at age 13 so severe I missed 3 months of high school, all i did was sleep. I am trying to get to the bottom of my health problems at age 42 and then this video pops up ...
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
There are so many contributing factors
@sparky413
@sparky413 2 года назад
I am an identical twin. I have MS and my brother does not. I served in the military and my brother did not. We were both exposed to EBV around the same time. He was exposed in college while living in the dormitory. I had several friends get MONO in the military dormitory I lived in but I never caught it. Interesting none the less.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Very interesting Henry. Wishing you all the best. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@elenacardonne5546
@elenacardonne5546 2 года назад
Finally an answer to the million dollar question!! I'll have to tell all my fellow Ms'rs the news. Funny thing though, I never knew I had mono... Thanks guys, you got me thinking.🙉
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Elena. You likely didn’t have mono just the virus. Hope you are well. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@glasshousefuture6836
@glasshousefuture6836 Год назад
So if you have MS, how do you recommend approaching the subject of receiving EBV treatment course with your doctor?
@pattieodonnell723
@pattieodonnell723 Год назад
For my job, I interview doctors and patients. Years ago, I interviewed a lot of MS patients, and was surprised at how many were health care workers. One of our clients said she had noticed the same thing. So a viral contribution makes sense - who is exposed to more types of viruses more often than health care workers? I was also told that people who grew up in the northern tier of the US are statistically significantly more likely to get MS - maybe they're indoors more, more likely to pick up a virus?
@redmimii__x
@redmimii__x 5 дней назад
interesting input there
@EraLuna13
@EraLuna13 2 года назад
👏🏻Exciting news. Hopefully, they will come up with a vaccine such a terrible disease to suffer with. Now, if they could find the cause and cure for Fibromyalgia I'd be a happy camper. Appreciate the medical updates - keep em coming!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Yes Gina that one is very elusive too! Thanks for watching and subscribing
@nf2885
@nf2885 2 года назад
Do you parathesias with your fibromyalgia? I get like a very strong tingling feeling that starts in my abdomen and works it’s way to other parts of my body. It’s quite painful and I notice it happens more when I’m stressed. Can you tell me your symptoms? I’m trying to determine if i have fibromyalgia too.
@leaheames8995
@leaheames8995 Год назад
But that’s the very cause. I had the wrong one and I’ve lived with ms for 23 years
@semichiganandy2127
@semichiganandy2127 2 года назад
It's interesting but some cofactors might be missing. For instance, there are multiple studies that implicate the latitude that a person lives at to the probability of getting MS, where the rate of MS in the population increases the further north of south of the equator. That might sound hokey but other studies have found poor vitamin D retention in the relatives of MS patients. Vitamin D is involved in immune response and the next question is "how does that come into play with MS?" This virus is one additional piece of the puzzle and it's a positive development. Hopefully, more will be come soon. Years ago there was a belief that the measles virus was involved in MS. Do you know if that belief is still considered to be valid?
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi SE. Yes the highest incidence is in Canada and Europe. And vitamin D plays a critical role in immunity. This is one piece for sure. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@michaelwhite5255
@michaelwhite5255 2 года назад
Perhaps low vitamin D triggers EBV to become active. I have read rate of MS has gone up in women in Iran considerably, since the Islamic revolution. Could there be a connection to the fact women have to cover themselves from head to toe and getting very little sun light
@semichiganandy2127
@semichiganandy2127 2 года назад
@@michaelwhite5255 My background is in one of the physical sciences and not in the biomedical fields. So, I'm not in a position to give an expert opinion. However, to me, your conjecture seems to be insightful and is certainly worth looking into. It might be verified by looking at the MS rates among fair skinned individuals who cover up a lot on sunny days to avoid sunburn.
@user-ov4wr5yu4r
@user-ov4wr5yu4r Год назад
Thanks for the link. I did read the study.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@davidhooper259
@davidhooper259 Год назад
Hers a fun little case study- in the mid-50's the Floyd River in western Iowa flooded shortly after a typhoid outbreak. Within months, Iowa State University and the US Department of Agriculture (why this agency?) start going door to door interviewing communities in Plymouth and Woodbury county, the two counties that have the highest population that have well and city water dependent on the Floyd River. Turns out after the typhoid outbreak and the flooding of this river, Woodbury County had the highest per capita diagnosis of MS in the world. Within a few years my mother was diagnosed, and her brother were diagnosed with type I diabetes....with no family history of either. A few years ago another family member was diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease, again no known family history.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Wow
@MangoCurries
@MangoCurries 2 года назад
Crazy odds considering my mom has it, my oldest sister has it, and I was just diagnosed with it 😳 bc of this I thought it was much more common AND possibly genetic.😳😳 ( also fun fact, they said “the amount of lesions you have is unusual and concerning for someone your age” which is fun. But now that I’m thanking about it, I got mono a couple years ago so maybe connected 🤷🏻‍♀️…)
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
So sorry to hear this Mango. Hope everything goes ok for you. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@melissaseago536
@melissaseago536 2 года назад
Valtrex might help since it's a herpes virus too.
@rnorfor2002
@rnorfor2002 Год назад
I was told it was not genetic but my cousin has it so that's a lie
@silverfox6590
@silverfox6590 Год назад
My mom had it too. I didn’t get it but my daughter was diagnosed at 18. I had to tell the doctor to work her up for MS as they tests they had performed were negative. She has it for 20 years. Even with the medication she’s on, it still is progressing. My mom passed at 38 years old. She was bed bound.
@razzlev
@razzlev Год назад
Great info. Like you said a lot of the population of people have had EBV at one point in their lives. So is this really a correlation?
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
No it’s likely part of a two hit process
@Siobhan_Shivaun
@Siobhan_Shivaun Год назад
I was diagnosed with MS 40 years ago, it went into remission and aside from the odd bad day here and there, I was doing well, until I got a UTI 9 years ago and the MS came back. I was looking into MS symptoms etc and read something that said something about being caused by ingestion of toxins...unfortunately I couldn't find anything more about what sort of toxins
@kavalinaresh3762
@kavalinaresh3762 9 месяцев назад
Do we have any medication
@sailboatrn7372
@sailboatrn7372 2 года назад
So excited about this video!! I was diagnosed in 2000 (had it probably longer than the confirmed dx.) and YES, I had Mono. I test positive for EBV routinely. They also have done studies that post-mortem brains of MS patients had Lyme disease. I have know about the EBV possibly causing MS. This article confirms it and hopefully further treatments will take that into account. Perhaps MS patients should also be seeing an ID doc prior to a confirmed dx. Just a thought. 🤷‍♀️ now onto further treatments for EBV and possibly less Ms patients. Wouldn’t that be wonderful!! Every hour someone is dx. with MS. It is the leading cause of disability for 20-40 year old women.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Let’s hope Sailboat Rn! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Год назад
I've been wondering for years why so much research effort goes into weird and unlikely causes before every virus and micro bacterium have been ruled out. Not only for MS, but also for Parknson's and various dementias, CAD, arthritis, gastroparesis, arrhythmias, and other mysterious diseases. There are several notorious viruses that live on nerve tissue in such small numbers they are hard to detect by medical tests and even by the immune system.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Yes it's hard to find the answers for sure
@denforcer
@denforcer Год назад
Thank you for sharing. Subscribed
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Very welcome. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
@starshine3940
@starshine3940 Год назад
I KNEW IT!! I I had mono when I was 16 and was diagnosed with MS at 41 but the symptoms started 10 years prior, but bc my first lumbar came back negative I wasn’t diagnosed right away.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
It does seem that there is an association. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@sallyeve4044
@sallyeve4044 2 года назад
My husband has had MS since he was 26. He is now 68. He had mono but his identical twin did not get mono. His twin does not have MS. My husband was told 25 years ago that it was caused by a virus, probably mono. But a vaccine is such good news!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Sally eve. That is very interesting. It lends support for this research paper. It just goes to show that even though they thought it was a virus back then, they have struggled to find more answers. We hope your husband is OK. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@sallyeve4044
@sallyeve4044 2 года назад
@@TalkingWithDocs Yes, I don't miss anything you post. Thank you!
@youknowtherules8888
@youknowtherules8888 2 года назад
Hi Sally. I’m sorry to hear what your husband has been through. It must have been hard seeing what his Twin has been able to do with his life. All the best for the future.
@oscarvasquez7408
@oscarvasquez7408 Год назад
​@@TalkingWithDocs I know for a fact that's it's caused by ebv please doctor's look into that and find a cure🙏🏼❤️
@youthrevisitedagain
@youthrevisitedagain 2 года назад
Interesting. Thanks for educating us. A future vaccine for EBV would be fantastic!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
It would be a game changer youthrevisited. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@itsjustmeagain986
@itsjustmeagain986 Год назад
I had an uncle with Advanced Multiple Sclerosis who died in 1973 at the age of 43. It was tragic.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
So sorry to hear that
@guygrotke8059
@guygrotke8059 Год назад
I'm pretty sure MS is an autoimmune disease that can be triggered by some viral protein that looks like myelin. Since you have a lot of myelin in your body, it keeps on retriggering your immune system long after the EBV is gone or dormant. Vitamin D plays important roles in the immune system, including operation of the anti-inflammatory interleukins. Both MS prevalence and Vitamin D deficiency are associated with living in Northern latitudes, where exposure to UV-B is low. Some studies have shown that mega-doses of Vitamin D have completely relieved MS symptoms, though recovery from actual nerve damage does not happen quickly or even at all. If this is true, then a vaccine could actually cause MORE cases of MS, because the immune system would start making those anti-myelin antibodies. I think the vaccine makers would have to be very careful not to include that antigen in the vaccine. It would be much easier to do that with an mRNA vaccine, since the protein it would specify would be known. I was diagnosed with MS about 5 years ago. Since around that time, I have kept my Vitamin D blood level around 100 ng/ml and my MS has not progressed at all. It takes about 8000 iu per day to keep it that high. Anecdotes are not scientific data, but I'm just describing what I believe has helped me.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Sorry to hear that and thanks for sharing. All the best
@ursulakoriath5133
@ursulakoriath5133 Год назад
And don’t forget: more and more sunscreens are being used resulting in increasingly lower levels of vitamin D and that could be a contributing cause of the rising prevalence of MS worldwide
@bellas.5665
@bellas.5665 2 года назад
Question: My daughter has Epstein-Barr. At a younger age, when she got sick, she slept for hours, even had mono. Is there anything she can do (food, exercise, vitamins or medication) to prevent an MS onset? Thanks for a very informative video.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Bella. No there isn’t at this point but she is among the 95 percent of us who would test positive for EBV. Thankfully it would still be unlikely that she would get MS. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
@bellas.5665
@bellas.5665 2 года назад
@@TalkingWithDocs thanks for your reply. And yes, I do subscribe. I recently had a TKR, and I think it was your video, if I'm not mistaken, that helped me prepare for the surgery. Your videos are very helpful and easy to understand.
@salehaali100
@salehaali100 2 года назад
As a homeopath I suggest to give her Tuberculinum 1 M 3 pills every week
@charlescoleman2140
@charlescoleman2140 2 года назад
@@salehaali100 what are the benefits of this I am interested in learning more
@Sally-ih6ls
@Sally-ih6ls Год назад
Vitamin d, (5000 mcg per day)lots of water, take appropriate MS meds and reduce stress I was told. I’ve had MS for 22 years and no one would even know it aside from a small limp. I do have hidden affects, fatigue, brain fog at times, but overall I did what I was told and I’m doing well. I know of others that did not do as told but neurologists and they are not doing well. I understand there r levels of MS, fortunately I have relapsing-remitting. I don’t follow any specific diet, or excersice routine, just a healthy mind, positive thinking
@vanessalambert4286
@vanessalambert4286 2 года назад
Nice information to know, I have MS I was diagnosed in 2018, I’m now 55 and I wonder if this new discovery has opened the door to new medicines that will finally cure MS, or at least lead to a new medicine better than all existing ones. Could you imagine if someone discover the cure they could become billionaire. Here in Puerto Rico many are being diagnosed with MS, so it’s not the cold, probably some 🧬
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Sorry to hear that Vanessa. Fingers crossed. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@patriciahall2223
@patriciahall2223 9 месяцев назад
Thank you both very much Drs , I appreciate all your great informative videos ....
@Velkro5000
@Velkro5000 Год назад
So excited to learn about this, but Pam Bertha (@ Living Disease Free) made a video debunking the EBV study. Not sure what to believe as Ive been diagnosed and have had frightening experience with the illness, but even scarier experiences on the phone with MS drug companies and online testimonials of drug side effects.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Hi Dave. This article seems to provide a link but it is certainly far from definitive. Something to work off of. The numbers in this study were pretty convincing. Best of luck during your journey. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@dogsrgodsspelledbackwards3340
@dogsrgodsspelledbackwards3340 2 года назад
Very interesting men of many topics. Now this article needs to be available for people to read. Those with MS will be excited about the study. And anyone who believes a vaccine to prevent MS would be amazing. Science rocks, even if I did have my hair on fire by an explosion in class. Not a big one but enough to scar the top of my head. And burn my jeans. Guess what the school did ? They bought me a new pair of jeans. Thanks for the new topic. As always, of interest and entertaining to watch.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Thanks so much for the positive feedback Sherry. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@juliettepardue4624
@juliettepardue4624 2 года назад
A healthy functioning immune system is the key to not getting most diseases, including MS and cancers. That topic is rarely addressed. Please do videos about optimizing your immune health!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs 2 года назад
Hi Juliette. We agree it is helpful but it will not necessarily prevent you from getting MS. It doesn’t work that way. But we will add the topic to our list. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@youknowtherules8888
@youknowtherules8888 2 года назад
Genes play a role as well. I have genetic disorder for Mediterranean fever. Causes abnormal immune system. 4x more likely to develop MS than the general population.
@goodvibez337
@goodvibez337 Год назад
I read disease start in the Gut.
@kfg7248
@kfg7248 Год назад
Doctors don't work in curing disease let alone prevention. They prescribe meds and treatment because that's all they know. Immunity is through nature and the pharmaceutical industry can't patent it, that's why they don't fund studies pertaining to nutrition, exercise, natural therapies aka 'alternative therapy'. Meanwhile there is conclusive evidence that nutritional therapy cures and prevents most chronic diseases. It just knowing where to find it. Hint; not from a GP. They only study 1Ohrs of nutrition in total during their 8 years of a medical degree!
@kristinas5714
@kristinas5714 Год назад
@@TalkingWithDocs once someone gets diagnosed with MS can taking antiviral protocols for Epstein bar help ?
@heatherlane3404
@heatherlane3404 7 месяцев назад
During my sophomore year of high school, I was home schooled for nearly two months … because I had a severe case of Mononucleosis. I was told to stay in bed as much as possible, because my spleen had severely swollen and a bump in that area could’ve caused my spleen to rupture (which also could’ve caused internal bleeding). I was just diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis yesterday (December 4, 2023). Based on the information from this video … I’m assuming my case of Mononucleosis in high school … eventually lead to my Multiple Sclerosis diagnosis now.
@Jess-kn8vl
@Jess-kn8vl 5 месяцев назад
I had mono in 1996 the summer before 10th grade. Got optic neuritis Dec 2023 and recently diagnosed with MS. We are twining 😉. Jokes aside, its a bummer! My brother was diagnosed with MS at age 22 in January 1996 and it was eerie doing the same testing and being diagnosed 28 years later at the same place he was. He is doing fine though after all this time!
@__Wanderer
@__Wanderer Год назад
EBV is also thought to cause many other complications such as certain cancers / other autoimmune diseases.
@mandydehoog2708
@mandydehoog2708 2 года назад
I have MS. I don’t get it. How does this help the people that have MS. Thxs Docs. ❤️🤗🇨🇦
@bradweening5182
@bradweening5182 2 года назад
Hi Mandy. Sorry to hear that. It may lead to more focussed antiviral treatment against Epstein-Barr virus which may help reduce or decrease the symptoms from MS. Let’s hope. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@oreocookie3185
@oreocookie3185 Год назад
I was Dx with MS IN 2010. I too have been my own advocate, retired nurse
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Sorry to hear that. Hope you are ok
@Thecarnivorejournals
@Thecarnivorejournals Год назад
Epstien Barre? I've had the former and have Lyme disease. One of the things I was diagnosed with was...drumroll...MS. Please, don't forget to check for a Lyme factor! PLEASE! I've struggled my entire life with these infections!
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Yes
@kaitlinnesbitt9799
@kaitlinnesbitt9799 Год назад
Hi Dr Weening and Dr Zal Zal You are the best! Keep up the great work!😊
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Why thank you Kaitlin! Thanks for watching and subscribing
@justamom4902
@justamom4902 Год назад
I have suspected this for like 10 years now.
@leegorman8322
@leegorman8322 10 месяцев назад
It's some kind of preset, people are preconditioned to MS? Great vid 😊
@kyststudio-epicartadventure
My holistic doctor had me keep EBV suppressed by denying it much arginine and getting more lysine. EBV loves arginine and arginine and lysine compete for the same sites, so this helps starve it out. Then there are antivirals…
@sharonavinger3266
@sharonavinger3266 Год назад
I had mono in 1971 in college. I was diagnosed with primary progressive MS in 2008.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
So sorry to hear this
@lillyrocks2011
@lillyrocks2011 Год назад
Each time are more and more people with MS being diagnosed. I hope a cure can be found soon. Or better medicines. Autoimmune illnesses are still so poorly understood and misdiagnosed or dismissed.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Totally agree. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@susanmagargee7624
@susanmagargee7624 Год назад
I 'WAS' the O.T. for a dedicated M.S. Rehab Clinic, the 2nd only in the U.S.. I was diagnosed 2x with 'mono', 1st at 8 yrs then ~ 17yrs old. As an O.T. when working with the M.S. population I experienced profound fatigue; too weak/exhausted to drive a car. I thought I could really empathize with my patients.. Eventually, those symptoms subsided. A few yrs later I rec'd an employer mandated flu shot-my first ever. I became progressively paralyzed then an entire cluster of 'unexplained' symptoms followed. M.G. was ruled out. However these symptoms did not subside. I became permanently disabled. It ruined my life as I knew it. So it would seem as if you are advocating 'a vaccine' for M.S., the causal agent of 'my' disability--for people who already have compromised immune systems, possibly with underlying subclinical autoimmune disease... I was directed by all my physicians to NEVER get any vaccine. They said it could be fatal. M.S. should be understood by now--much money has been poured into research. So what's the delay!? Until M.S. is completely 'understood', a 'preventative' should be on hold. It might be the catalyst causing the very condition you hoped it would prevent. ADDM: Will M.S. never be figured out unless it can become a money-maker??
@doylejodi7502
@doylejodi7502 Год назад
Very informative! My daughter has Friedrich’s Ataxia. Any news that helps people get closer to being free of these neurological diseases is good news! Thank you.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Very welcome
@xxxild
@xxxild Год назад
Are there any antivirals that can help those of us with MS? I was introduced back in 1998 to a group who thought that by taking Acyclovir they could reduce the number and severity of exacerbations.
@robertryan2972
@robertryan2972 Год назад
I’ve often argued this with past neurologists. Though they wouldn’t agree to linking EBV, they never refuted it. Looking back from dx in 2011 being told it was 4yr long standing. I thought back through my memories, never got formally diagnosed at the time but in early 2008, was sick for a month with symptoms of mono. Never went to the dr at that time as I was 18 and wasn’t going to miss out on work. Still think back hard wondering if idve just gone to the doctor then, maybe I could have been ahead of the MS curveball.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Hard to say
@heatherh3457
@heatherh3457 Год назад
In a very small rural community, at a cross roads , near Kitchener ON , there were three life long residence woman of the same age who developed MS. It has been my theory that this dramatically points to either an environmental or infectious agent component. What are the chances of this dramatic coincidence?
@dianerheault9594
@dianerheault9594 10 месяцев назад
You need to read the Medical Medium
@user-dn9vd9xg9p
@user-dn9vd9xg9p Год назад
Shouldn't this be a major breakthrough for those with MS? And would there be a different way to treat mono when a patient has it to prevent MS later in life?
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Hi J. We think the evidence is new and not conclusive so more research has to be done. And yes it may alter treatment for sure. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@toni2606
@toni2606 Год назад
I hope someday there will be definitive news regarding Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (SLE.)
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
We agree
@toostrange9357
@toostrange9357 Год назад
How to test Polio virus that you mentioned at the end? Ebv is tested through blood?
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Usually throat, stool or CSF specimen via PCR test. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@lefreakful
@lefreakful 10 месяцев назад
I had mono the year before I was diagnosed (Aug '22).
@TheRavenandRose
@TheRavenandRose 2 месяца назад
I was just diagnosed with RR MS. I’ve never had Mono…
@robolo1132
@robolo1132 Год назад
I had Mono when I was 18, my tonsils were so inflammed my throat was almost completely closed. I had my tonsils removed and was treted for the Mono. At 47 I was diagnosed with MS. I did my own research, and discovered what these doctors are discussing. A doctor in england cured hi wife's MS with high doses of anti virals for year. Yhy aren'tNeuros trating people this way? Because big pharma is charging $80k+ for some MS treatment, that's way.
@michellecox379
@michellecox379 Год назад
Any correlation to MTHFR issues and the findings? Im wondering if that figures into the equation.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
Not sure but we are researching this with respect to B12
@mavisdavisify
@mavisdavisify Год назад
My uncle, my sister and my brother all had MS. It wasn’t the exact cause they died but it was a major contributor. Each of their lives were so diminished by MS. I pray the vaccine is developed soon so no one else has to live with it.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
So sorry to hear that
@charlesvickers4804
@charlesvickers4804 Год назад
I still question there are so many of us vets with me and the heavy study of it in the VA.
@TalkingWithDocs
@TalkingWithDocs Год назад
For sure Charles. Lots of unanswered questions. Thank you for your service. Thanks for watching and subscribing
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