Mumbai's coastal road: Urgent need or environmental disaster? 

Maybe you don't care but there are a lot of other people that do.

@Madhav Jha learn how to spell life

Spot on !! Indians are highly obsessed with these made-up stars whose lives revolve around soliciting attention from naive public. Shallow figures.

FUCKED this celebrities kick out them from Mumbai ...assholes....

Minus point

What skyline bhai? In the suburban district there is no skyline to watch. From Worli onwards you are too close to the coast to observe any skyline. Current routes through peddar road and haji Ali sea face are much better for skyline observations

Bhai sapna hai shayad 80 saal ke honge tab jaa payenge ambulance me faat se hospital 🤦‍♂️

@@milaanvigraham8664 lmao my school was at peddar road and there the traffic is pathetic. Sometimes I took half n hour to reach from peddar road to fuckin Gamdevi. At time in Noon hours I just walked home

@@dhwanitashar1684 I agree with you. The solution is underpasses, and a proper median - we all know the signals and people spilling over on the wrong side are the only reasons for traffic on that stretch. I honestly believe right lane underpasses and a median would work wonders on that stretch. The coastal road is not the only answer, it's just a lazy answer. And nice, which school were you in by the way

This is just a day dream we cannot achieve it

And the project is half assed or abandoned during or after completion.

And that’s the whole point of a democracy. To reinforce to debates, and use wisdom of Masses

Critics, nay sayers, environmentalist and some genuine concern holders only help to make any project more inclusive sustainable and efficient. Imagine a vague project by a selective planning committee without any consideration of the stake holders will only turn out to be disaster.

yash@arvind@…people like u dont know ,, how critics help to improve any project

CHINA issiye aage hau..

What was plam jumeriah and dubai built on? Dubai has no natural way Dubai is developed in last 80 years mumbai is liveable for people for approx 200/300 years from today We have precious mangroves here? Do u even reside in mumbai? The water problem ie severe if we cut mangroves how can u stop water

@@TechBro123 yes I reside in mumbai from my birth and so have generations before me , Mumbai as we know today is made by filling sand between 7 islands our whole city is a reclamation project , we won't exist without reclamation , I doubt you understand Mumbai stall sir

@@AayushDotiya so what's ur thoughts? Is it easy to make city in sand or a place which has jungles so much of life in seas We have kolis living their lives by the shores? Do dubai have kolis? Dude u are comparing something which indeed not comparable

@@TechBro123 first I like to point out that dubai do have a local fishing community 😉 Secondly our city is growing fast and we need to build up infra to support our growth and enhance the living conditions

Let them ruin their ecology, but not us. Those projects should be a prime example of what shouldn't be done. Concretized development on the cost of sacrificing ecosystems is easy. Abhi Gadkari ka cement factory hai, to apna ganit lagaao. Nagpur, where his factory is located has seen good roads being stripped from earth for concrete roads to be put in their place. Aur kabhi koi aise road pe gira hai, to usko pata hoga ki kitna jyada damage hota hai...

It is due to unchecked and massive corruption which results in poor shoddy construction..

It's a fact. The government wants to ape the west and build huge cities without proper planning for something as basic as water drainage. Countries in middle east or many states in US are poor in natural environment and can construct anything anywhere. India is rich in diversity and we should take that into account too

@@sgsan705 ny has 21 air quality on index delhi has 300 yeah ok.

@@BeanOnTheFlipside that is only for 2 months during crop burnging.

@@adithya1791 yes i know bro but we have alot to work on.

Yes there is!! Instead of putting bandage on 70% burnt person(keeping those few trees) why not do surgery?(cut down the pollution) Project like these can drastically drop down the pollution level which is comparable to lacks of trees. And about Marin ecosystem we already fucked the entire arabian sea coast. The sea water is not different than your local gutter. So clearly it need money save environment.

@@mayur4699 you are right

Legal activism with the help of foreign money has stalled many projects leading to loss of country

preetham g totally agree... but development is also important. Just imagine an ambulance carrying a critically ill patient and stuck in traffic. Just one scenario. Same time, there are many examples around the world where development was carried forward, strictly considering ecology. There is definitely a way out.

@preetham g Ohh then you should've visit my village 15years ago. People use to migrate different location during summer coz of lack of water and food. Now we don't need to leave our home coz of adequate water supply, electricity and we can grow more crops coz of that ans it also improved our income and lives.

You're right ✌🏻✌🏻❤️❤️

Kyu ki Shanghai toh 500 saal me bhi nahi ban sakta hau..

​@@moviesmovies6796500 saal bhi nhi Kabhi nhi banega agar Aise hi chalta raha Sanghai to aur aage chala jaayega tab tak

No it doesn't and thats the truth, mangrove forests destroyed + fish breeding areas destroyed

​@@no1brittbarbiefan Why not stop all the projects in whole India to make it more environment friendly Even stop road repair so people will not travel by vehicle but by foot and cycle And kill ourselves so nature will heal No humans no Pollution or problems to marine life or nature

SO WOKE LMAO

Yes, that line was very confusing. Corals are very important for the environment.

@@himalayanirjhar I don't think you don't understand the consequences of having corals disappear.

@@ericingtywatre I'm laughing at 'if humans are gone, nothing will harm earth'. Sure our species will not live forever but why the rhetoric? None of this matters if we suddenly disappear out of the picture.

The guy is an idiot and his animation rubbish, his voice is also annoying . Corals reefs are very important for ecology, it takes hundreds of years for them to form.

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And you have zero idea about the me levels of unnecessary pollution the stagnant traffic is causing and how harmful it is to the environment. You seem to have no understanding about it either

Yes exactly. He has not one bit of an idea. Just mocking it without a thought. He probably is an illiterate guy. So it seems.

BTW you can replant corals elsewhere it better areas

@@siddhantrs4545 haha this is the thing. Most indians are not educated enough to know things & the reason why India is so polluted. It takes many many years for corals to grow. It's not a plant which you can uproot and move.

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China has most deadly sea water

Lata mangeshkar ji

Yes she sang soooooo gud

Wtf u don't know lata Mangeshkar

@@adnananjum1329 r/woosh

Built in city vs built in forest Built a statue vs building a bridges in sea. You got that

@@dudeimstoned5141 yo stoned dude... They haven't even started it.... And you are talking about construction .... And didn't you watch the documentary on "the statue"..... Just go watch it and you will know how EASY it was.

@@harbinger_1984 I did it dude, You know how 30 kilometre coastal road cost and need to do hardwork? Point it too

@@dudeimstoned5141 WHAT?😕😕

@@dudeimstoned5141 that's all the English you know??

Heyperloop is an experimental waste of money. It's better to just build a maglev or bullet(high speed) rail

@H J Just common sense. Hyperloop is literally planned to be a maglev in a low pressure tube. Maglev is already pretty expensive to build. Adding a tube around it and more infrastructure to maintain low pressure would be insanely more expensive. There's no way in earth that Hyperloop can be cheap to build

@H J And who will maintain the vaccum? It'll require lots of power to suck the air out using pumps and maintain the vaccume. Also, since It'll have electrical magnets like maglev, It'll require almost as much power as a maglev train. Some power will be saved due to lack of friction, but the power required to maintain the vaccume would be higher

@H J hyperloop would also need constant magnetic force to keep the train levitating and running. The vaccume is just there to eliminate friction with air, making high speed travel possible. So no, hyprloop cannot run without constant power. You should study more on it

@H J It's basic physics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed between various forms. So something in a vaccume won’t start magically running at high speed. To generate the kinetic energy, you need to use some other energy on it and convert it to kinetic energy. The kinetic energy(speed) wont just come out of thin air for the hyperloop to run. So It'll need power

Rightly said

Yahh more environmental research should be done first than carry onthe project

Kucch banagabhi ki khali research hi karate rahoge

Where do you draw the line between the environmental impact of not building the roads to the environmental impact of building them? Because not building the roads also has an environmental impact.

Do u jump from 1 floor of ur house to another, u go step by step right??

@@elfugaming4296 that step by step has taken 70+ years and still places like UP and Bihar are least developed and ppl of those states keep migrating to Mumbai and Delhi showing how underdeveloped we are, it's not like migration speed has reduced, nah! It's constant, the more migration and density of population in a city the more we show the world that are underdeveloped

@@chhayangnaik7774 we took many wrong steps in the way such as licence Raj and we have learned from it

@@elfugaming4296 who is Raj?

Yeah... Sab fasaad inhone hi to machaaya hua hai!!!

@@garnetgun ever heard about ideal fertility rate. And ever try to search fertility rate in India??

Talking about population control, South India has very good fertility rate & brought down over population, where as uneducated idiots in North India continue to have more kids inspite of not able to afford them proper education and basic needs. This has become a headache & impacting South India as people are migrating in large no. to South in Search of work........ Also this has also increased crime rates in Southern states.... So this is serious issue to be addressed in Northern States....

@@avinashp4597 😆😆 really?? Bro just check it online. Fertility rate in south and North are same but there are some exceptions up,bihar chattisgarh. So shut the fuck up.

@@avinashp4597 Government is not doing development work in most of the border states with china and Pakistan so where should they go for work??

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What a brilliant idea to waste further years and increase cost of the project.... Congratulations

Environmentalust are a scam

@@pb6206 how will that be a waste? Can you explain, please?

@Narotam Gkp not saying it is. Plans need to be in place to protect or create more green space to replace areas used for development

What BS argument. The road is for everyone doing a North-South transit through Mumbai. You are like a farmer protesting against an expressway being built _near_ (not on) his farm because he doesn't like the noise pollution. Meaning, your argument is paper thin. And now that the road is being built, I know you pretentious lot will be found enjoying your zen in the public parks being created under this project and for beaches, you'll take these very roads to go further afield when you want to. But right now you protest. Dumbos.

Paise kon Tera baap dega.

Hangover par ,they will ramm on top floors ,

@@eighty9 in 10-15 years it will be possible

Take away all the development and gifts of civilization (including the home you live in and the PC you are reading this on) and lets see how _you_ will survive. The key is to strike a balance between development and ecology. It grates on my mind when I see dim people take an extremist stance while not realizing how hypocritical they are. And meanwhile here I am, dreaming of a future for humanity where we get involved in terraforming and maybe even starlifting.

Well Infrastructure like delh metro Which of 400 km today

Well done regurgitating what you've heard on countless YT channels here. Did you miss the entire effort to improve the public transport infra of Mumbai? Or are you too dim to note that buses (which are a mode of public transport) also need roads?

You are wrong. Look at the price they had to pay. Entire fishing community (kolis of Mumbai, the original inhabitants of Mumbai) would loose thier jobs due to the impact on the aquatic life this project would have...

@@garnetgun Look i understand your point but that does not change a lot in aquatic life..they have to go further deep in to the sea for fishing..which will result in more cost of changing boats and equipment maybe..but think about the positive side of this travelling time reduction brings a lot to economy plus reduces conjustion and pollution in the west coast

@@garnetgun it's fishermen vs the convenience of the rich and the middle classes. Who do you think wins every time? You'll find plenty of comments justifying why fishermen and farmers need to lose their land and livelihoods for this and that. Then later, the same commenters will tell you we need to destroy more of nature because fishermen/farmers are out of livelihoods and we need to give them jobs. Like the commenter above who thinks they just have to row farther out into the ocean to catch fish. Never mind the physical exertion involved/cost of fuel, and the fact that they have no hope of competing with large fishing trawlers depleting stocks out in the ocean. All for a few hours of reduced time for middle class. You can even be called anti development/anti national for this.

Underground roads has to be developed instead of coastal roads. Even monorails throughout the city can help in easy commute.

As an anthropologist who conducted research among Koli community last year, I can confirm that going just further is not a small issue. We are talking about 6-8 km increased distance in last 15 years already. One tandel told me that sometimes they go beyond national water limits. This is putting their lives in lot of unnecessary risk. Do you know the reason? The waste from industries and cities. We have already destroyed their livelihood. Also do you know that Maharashtra is facing fish drought where procurement of fishes have dropped by 40%? And unlike farmers government won't give fishermen any concession.

Yup, environmentalists are just an excuse, it's the rich folks of the city who's lobbied just cuz their sea facing views will be affected. They don't give a shit about 90% of the city suffering in ridiculous transport nightmare on a daily basis.

Yeah in five years!😂😂😂good luck!👍👍👍

2024 tk pkka

tumare is logic ke hisab se bardra worli seaslink kabhi nai banta. is sea link ki wajese kitna easy ho gaya hei travel karna.

@@neeljadav8335 Bandra worli sea link pe Rs.75 toll bhi lagaya hai and if you observe during peak hours there is terrible traffic on both ends. I think you are not living in mumbai isliye nai samaj sakte mumbai ki traffic conditions 😂

What does this prove but

@@varunjiddi7023 Mumbai is built mostly on reclaimed land, and natural water channels have been blocked and buildings are built on natural water channels, which causes flooding during monsoon. So building canals will take away excess water during monsoon and avoid flooding in monsoon. Secondly, cars are the inefficient modes of transportation inside cities. Cycles and metro are much more effective in moving people arround without traffic jams andw without pollution. Thirdly, building a new highway is just a wasteful expenditure, as it increases number of cars, causing more pollution and traffic jams

@@arunkottolli You think and tell me is this feasible. Flood is not only the problem faced only by Mumbai every year. Since Mumbai is a region which receives a significant amount of rain and authorities had not taken enough step to control the proper flow of water is why it sees flood every year. You can't say that people can't settle on these places, we need to come out of that thought process of we should not settle here or there because if we keep thinking this way there would never be space for 130 cr people in our country. Now the next point I agree cycles should be encouraged but do you think people in India which is still developing country can spare this much time for traveling. These ideas you suggest are for European countries who have enough money, space, and fewer people to implement and work only for 6-8 hours a day. But people in Mumbai work on an average for 10-12 hours, now you ask them after that mental strain or physical strain to ride bicycles or travel walking for the next 1 hour. Think this way as well, if there is left social thought we should consider the feasibility of it as well. I will definitely buy a car if I have money and my time is valuable for my family to spend with instead of walking given that I have no time to spend on riding a bicycle. The third point, Building highways get you investment, industries would be developed and people would get a JOB. DO you want to see people jobless have no money to eat or die of hunger no right? So we should accept the very fact that we have poverty to deal with. If I was a person in a western country with a lot of money, less population, and enough space and the authorities would have been doing this then I would myself oppose it but we are not that rich. If you say don't build this then provide a feasible alternative where I have enough money to enjoy my life riding bicycle, my kids fed well and have worries about the future as well because I have money.

@@varunjiddi7023 You probably don't have the first hand experience of seeing and doing what I had recommended. Once you experience it, your opinion will change. I have experienced this first hand in Bangalore. Traveling by car to my work place takes longer time and is more stressful than cycling or Metro. Regarding canals, I am talking about building proper canals that take away excess water during rains, and create proper drainage in the city. The original British planners had incorporated canals into the urban plan, but that has been destroyed by independent India and squatters. Floods in Mumbai will only increase in the future, and will hurt poor people more than the rich. Thus it makes sense to give up some land to get a better life and avoid damaging floods. The city has to be planned to handle heavy rain and avoid flooding. This is not a rich bs poor debate, it's doing what's right for all citizens - i.e. provide safe living conditions at all times. A city like Mumbai ( Mumbai, Thane, and Navi Mumbai) needs a large metro network, probably about 500+ kms. Building such a network creates huge amount of jobs, and new livelihoods will be built around metro network. It will make Mumbai less polluted and cleaner air, than encouraging private cars on huge highways. If you are living in Mumbai, tell me if the western expressway reduce the travel time during 8Am to 10 Am? (Covid times doesn't count). Every time I travel to Mumbai, all taxi drivers advice me to avoid using Western express Highway. New highways does not solve travel time problem. We have seen new highways fail in all cities: Houston, Boston, London, Delhi, Bangalore, etc.. Highways create more traffic and traffic jams, thus slowing down travel speed. Instead, we need to look at other modes of transport. A mix of cycles and metro will do wonders.

They are already doing that.

No SPACE, trains are SLOW.

@@veritascognitio5183 lol

@@veritascognitio5183idiot go see shanghi maghlev 431km/h we should built something like that

Yeah big builders cut trees to make their building but when public projects need to cut trees there is no problem WTF

Yes, we hope to better quality. However, we have limited time on each topic

Welcome Arun

No, I want the road to be built

I disagree with you. I don't want it to be banned

All roads are for the Netas and to fill their pockets.

Un logo ko metro bhi nahi banane deni

tum jese chutye badhe to.. india ... china kya america ko bi 1 saal me piche chod dega..

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ha sabi constructure our billions dollars dene vale chutye he baki tu samajdar he!!! pelli baat yaha sirf dikkat he mangroves ki to itttne se mangroves mumbai ki miti ko thamake ni bethe he... our agr vaha construction hoga to voh benefit kareha jyada miti ki pakad ko our yaha tak sea ecosystem ki baat he toh ... dubai bada example he.. unhone palm beach banaya our usse vahake ecosystem destroy hone ke bajay dugne se jyada grow kiya... our rahi baat pollution ki toh iss road se ittna pollution krr hoga jitna croro ped lagane se bi nahi hoga... so support this project rather than phaltu ke dialogue marne se...

@@maheshsatpute8477 like I said.. let them do wat they want to... Only time will show the consequences.

Abey kahan chale gaye ye sare itna kuch technology aur economy hone ke bad bhi achche achche deshon ki Covid ne mar rakhi hai. Aur karo tabahi pata chalega kitna bach sakte hain hum log

580 km? Bro its 704 km in 2021

Btw Shanghai is sinking into the ground.... because the ecosystem there was never ready enough to withstand such huge constructions.... And with this project mumbai is on the same track

Lol, wheres the space? More cities like navi mumbai and mumbai should be created to accomodate population

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