Murder in Vilcabamba, a tragic story related to the reality of living in Ecuador

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In this video, I share the story of a family in Vilcabamba, Ecuador, who tragically lost a beloved member in a home invasion robbery. A mother of three brave teenage daughters valiantly defended another family member against one of the assailants but, sadly, lost her life in the process.
While this devastating incident may raise concerns, I want to emphasize that it is an isolated event and not reflective of Vilcabamba as a whole. Vilcabamba, known as the "Valley of Longevity," offers a serene and welcoming environment that has attracted retirees from all over the world for its stunning landscapes, vibrant culture, and warm community.
On the flip side of the coin though, because of recent events similar to this one over the past year, it has become apparent that Vilcabamba may not be the best choice for a retiree at this time.
My aim is to encourage future retirees to not let this tragic news dissuade them from coming to Ecuador for your dream retirement and if you want to live in the Vilcabamba region, stay close to town until we begin to experience more positive cultural changes that make it safer to live there.
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Remember this folks.
A country might look good on paper, or on a RU-vid video, but what about the “Chemistry” between you, the individual and the country and culture as a whole?
This is something we can’t know in advance. We can only make our move, dive in and test the waters…….and see how it goes.
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I want to be sure that the information I provide is accurate information and I don't want people to make a poor choice based on anything I say.
If one person comes here based on my influence and doesn't like it at all, then has to return to start all over again, I have failed.

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@hoochiecoochie571 Год назад

Thank you, Don, for another informative video. The crime in Ecuador does not scare me anymore than the crime in my own home town. In fact, I'm in more fear here than I would be anywhere in Ecuador. I live in a small town in Northern Minnesota. I grew up here, moved away for several years, then I moved back home. I won't bore you with the details, but coming home again I fell into a job in our county's sheriff office as a jailer/dispatcher and I can tell you from experience how things have changed in my beautiful town over the last 15 years and it has not been for the better as it relates to crime. The drug trade is through the roof, young kids overdosing, burglaries and robberies on the rise every year, a home invasion resulted in the death of a young woman and another woman was killed by her own son. My beautiful town has become a crime-infested sh!t hole because of the drug trade. We used to leave our doors unlocked when I was young in case someone broke down and needed to use the phone and we might not be home. Now, two thirds of all the people I know here carry guns on them, mostly because the media spends most of their time scaring the crap out of everyone. Crime is on the rise all over the world. Active shooter drills in US schools? C'mon! I hope people don't think that Ecuador is unique in their rise of crime. If your dream is to move to Ecuador don't let go of that dream just because of events like this because I guarantee you that things are no different anywhere else.

@luoma9040 Год назад

Totally agree. I had like 5 incidents where I felt unsafe here in LA. 4 of them related to junkies or crazy folks in public transport. The US is getting more dangerous!

@MartineReed Год назад

Do you think the problem is related to living near the border with Canada? I’ve heard that is how fentanyl got here originally from China.

@hoochiecoochie571 Год назад

@@MartineReed We believe it's both borders, most likely our own residents acting as mules bringing it in either driving or flying, at least that's what the statistics show. And, yes, the Canadian border is probably worse for us in Minnesota and other Northern states regarding fentanyl. Thankfully, new body scanners are making it much more difficult to bring into the correctional facilities, which makes things much safer who work and live within the facilities. I'd like to see them used more at the airports, too, but apparently that's too invasive?

@danmcqueen5295 Год назад

Perhaps if we abandoned the "war on drugs", and instead instill a strong sense of personal responsibility where the individual is entirely responsible for their own safety and success in life, things would improve. This government control and interference in our lives might just be THE problem. (edit) Maybe we should look at ourselves for the cause, and not our neighbors to the north or south.

@GMAceM Год назад

Sad to hear that something like this happened but it’s as you said, if you ever find yourself in a situation like that, it’s better to just give them your personal belongings over giving them your life. Hope that the family is alright and that they will be alright.

@kathyandthedogs626 Год назад

Thank you, Don, for sharing this tragic news.

@Kevin_Carlson Год назад

Thank you for stating that Ecuador remains a safe place. I've lived for 20 years in the center of Guayaquil with absolutely no incidents. My wife and I are always cautious when we go out. I personally know people in other locations in Ecuador who have been victims of home invasions. Some were in Quito, but others out in rural areas. When it happens, just give them what they want. Things can be replaced, but life in irreplaceable.

@BPe-ie9je Год назад

Thanks, Kevin and to your wife.

@Dahon5 Год назад

Do home invasions happen in building with security guards in Quito?

@RJMincey Год назад

@@lvovodessa, yes, guards can be bribed, but then they lose their jobs and income and the ability to support their family. Also, many secure buildings in Ecuador have video surveillance. This comment of yours sounds like something you just make up with no data behind it. I'm sure it CAN happen, and perhaps rarely it does, but thieves are mostly opportunists who look for the lowest common denominator - the place with the easiest access, the most to gain for the risk involved, and the fewest witnesses. Gated communities have lots of potential witnesses.

@jackbaldwin3649 Год назад

Why does Guayaquil have such a bad reputation? Thank you!

@6merkaba 23 дня назад

@@RJMinceyI lived in Vilcabamba and I can assure you that this gentleman in the video doesn't exaggerate at all. There is home invasion every week there

@DadHominem Год назад

The crime increase throughout Ecuador is truly sad. Such a beautiful country. I understand that much of the problem is due to the drug cartels moving in, and the criminal activity they bring with it. I hope the government can get a handle on it (with help from the citizens).

@BH-pl7vg Год назад

The cartels (mainly the Sinaloans) have been there’s for a long time, it’s just that leaders have been getting killed frequently therefore the chaos is stemming from unorganization which is creating a lack of control (and the power move of the CJNG to squeeze themselves in).

@AguedaFernandaFalconialv-il5nf 10 месяцев назад

Also all the gringos ruining one country !now Ecuador.We have been a witness too! much of the foreigners abuse to this Valley!

@jlynnburton9718 Год назад

Congrats on 6K Subs !!!

@Manta7123 Год назад

Thank you Don for this important information

@seaglasscolor Год назад

Excellent advice, Don.

@rafaelsolorzano700 Год назад

Great to see you know how this happened pray for this whole family. thanks Don

@rioscueva1899 Год назад

I’m born and raise in county of Calvas 1 hour south of Vilcabamba and I can testify that lojanos love and protect the expat community i see a lot of gringos and lojanos raising families together. You have to remember that lojanos are mainly Spanish heritage small percentage mix and a small community of indigenous located in Saraguro county. So the armed robberies are perpetrated by criminals that come from other parts of the country. Honestly I feel safe there in my Hacienda that i do here in Canada.

@D_Marrenalv Год назад

I can't believe something like that type of home invasion & murder happened in a nice small semi-rural town way up in the Highlands, a place that isn't even near Guayaquil or Quito.. Crime in North and South America has increased in the past few years.. Sad but not surprising anymore. Either way, Vilcabamba is now off my list.

@barbaralee6410 Год назад

I live in rural Alabama and we had a mass shooting at a child's birthday party a couple of weeks ago with 28 people injured and 4 killed. The U.S. averages more than 1 mass shooting per day EVERY day. I'd take Ecuador's crime rate over that anytime!

@BH-pl7vg Год назад

The homicide rate in Alabama is under 10 per 100,000 I believe, in Guayaquil & Esmeraldas I believe it’s over 45

@barbaralee6410 Год назад

@@BH-pl7vg If you want to narrow down the homicide rate to certain cities instead of the state as a whole then try Birmingham, Alabama at a rate of 76.9 per 100,000.

@peliculas216 Год назад

Sad news, it’s all over the world! Thank you Don stay safe 🤗

@mars54mars54 Год назад

A truly horrible event.... but also not a defining factor of this area. I have been told by long time residents, that there tends to be waves of home break-ins by, apparently, outside crews that move through from time to time, (and also stated that this is only the second homicide in the 10 years they have been here) but overall, it is a very cohesive community and safe, especially if your property is secured by all the typical security things that homes have. They target areas that are percieved to have residents with more money, such as Malacatos and Vilcabamba. And while there are many foreigners, there is a lot of money from Lojanos with second homes, large family farm properties, etc. As far as I can tell, there is not a big problem with animosity between Ecuadorians and foreigners... again, overall. I can only guess that there are particular problems with particular people as with any place.... but I have found it to be the friendliest place I have been. There is no reason to balk at coming here! Come and see for yourself. ☮

@2ndSprings Год назад

I appreciate your nuance. Not everyone has that. :-)

@rioscueva1899 Год назад

I can asure you are right Thank you for the clarification.

@user-un3ld7mb7u Год назад

These 5 men were looking for someone else. They went to the wrong house. They snuck up and attacked. The 3 daughters witnessed their father beaten, grandfather stabbed, and mother shot . Francesca was shot as she ran to her father. They weren't wealthy .and lived remotely. 3:16 Just "giving up" was never an option for this family. They are safe now. I hope this never happens to another family. These thugs were looking for someone. Be safe.

@user-ge7on8wy1o 10 месяцев назад

This is like an American saying that a murder of a spanish woman would be justified because there are 4,000 illegal immigrants crossing the border every day. The justification is horrible and indefensible.@ibrahimmoncada2710

@marcelamaria4205 Год назад

Thank you

@michaellendzian2655 Год назад

Thanks Don

@NickOseczkyy-ln3yb 3 месяца назад

Thanks bro! Nevermind the "hatters gonna hate" Best wishes

@anyasskunk 5 месяцев назад

There has been quite a lot of murders and rapes of tourists and expat on Vilcabamba over the years. But they dont seem to be reported on in the news...🤔

@Vivi30908 Год назад

Thank you for this information. Two weeks ago I watched a video about Vilcabamba for the first time. It's such a beautiful place and I heard a lot of expats are living there. This is a sad news.

@DonShader Год назад

I probably saw the same video and yes, it looked like Paradise. Thanks to the creative arts of RU-vidrs, we can be so misled.

@RJMincey Год назад

@@DonShader, I agree that some RU-vidrs deliberately focus only on the good aspects of a place and don't provide the whole picture. And this does a disservice to their viewers. But as you know, it doesn't mean the good aspects are fraudulent. Instead, it means only that the impression we may get about a place is incomplete. I'm sure the Vilcabamba area has much beauty and may seem like paradise in some ways. But for all its beauty and advantages, it's not my kind of place. At the same time, I can see how others may like it there very much. It's just a pity that the crime rate is rising there.

@TruthPain 11 месяцев назад

Good perspectives brother. Too many people extrapolate things to have a patterns without any data to support it.

@dovygoodguy1296 Год назад

Don, you are so down to earth.....in so many ways. It's refreshing. Could you discuss the complications of getting to Cuenca and Manta from North America? So many people describe that they have had to go through Miami and stay overnight or longer, get their luggage and take a new flight to Ecuador. The connecting flights from most places, especially Canada can extend with stopovers for 12 hours or more, with several stops, at least one in the US, then at least one or two more in Ecuador, changing planes, etc. The same for the other way. There has got to be a better way somehow!

@DonShader Год назад

There isn't. It is what it is until more airlines see some kind of value in coming here. I flew here from Phx through Mia, then GYE, then had to take a car 3 hours to Manta.

@BH-pl7vg Год назад

That’s just the way it is, I’ve flew in and out many many times and it’s nearly impossible to get any smooth itineraries. Something booking each destination yourself can help you make the cost cheaper and faster but not always (for example book Miami to Bogotá separate and then Bogotá to Manta separate). If you’re going to Manta you will need to likely stop into Quito first (occasionally Guayaquil) and then to Manta as the airport in Manta is not international. The bud ride from Guayaquil to Manta is like $7 and they leave about every 30 minutes if you’d rather not fly and they’re about 4 hours. If your Spanish isn’t passable it might not be a good idea but you should be okay. If you decide to take the bus, don’t fall asleep, keep an eye on your belongings.

@BH-pl7vg Год назад

Keep in mind Taxi cost too, Uber or InDrive should be cheaper but if you take a Taxi to bud station from the airport they’ll charge about $5-7 which is pretty unreasonable because it’s basically right next to it, should only be about $3. You’ll also need a taxi from the bus station in Manta to where your going. The average cab will charge about $4 from the bus station in Manta to the Playa Murciélago area.

@dovygoodguy1296 Год назад

@@BH-pl7vg Ii can just imagine what this involves in the situation where a person has to travel back and forth to the US or Canada especially for urgent reasons.

@RJMincey Год назад

Nonstop flights are always more desirable. No question about that. I prefer them myself - who doesn't? Catching a connecting flight is inconvenient to be sure. The only exception would be if we actually wanted to have a layover in a place to visit for a while. (As an example, I deliberately chose a long layover in Amsterdam in a flight from Minneapolis to Johannesburg.) Having said that, the person who finds the prospects of changing planes foreboding may not make a good candidate for moving abroad. Moving to a new country is not for the faint of heart. A lot is involved. It can be managed of course, and thousands of people do it. But there are plenty of details to master and account for. And if one or two stopovers becomes a deal-breaker for you, and if but for that alone, one country would be your first choice, but you wind up choosing another, then I hope you realize that you have just placed a higher priority on the hours you spend in transit than on the days, weeks, months, and years you spend living in a place. Does that seem like a reasonable ranking to you?

@timmaloney6441 Год назад

Good point Don . It's just "stuff" . The problem is , people sometimes react in 'panic mode' . Adrenaline , naturally kicks in and the burglars respond with force and they are prepared for that . Try to keep your cool ( it's not easy ) let them take what they will .

@captainmorgan7809 Год назад

Most people, I'm certain, are good and peaceful. All they want is to live their lives in peace and harmony with others. It angers me to no end knowing that there is always some punk out there ready to take an innocent life just because they want what others worked so hard to earn.

@charhall7702 Год назад

Agreed. When we visited. We met absolutely no one that wasn’t welcoming and friendly to us. Especially the indegenious peoples!

@teddyc2012 Год назад

I'm on my way right now to move to and live in Vilcabamba Ecuador. But I will take some common sense precautions. Know your cab driver and their family well. Don't walk through the river woods after dark alone. Have a large watch dog on the property and video surveillance signs in Spanish.

@edshipe2555 Год назад

Yup gotta wear Kevlar to go to the mall or school here in the US. Stay safe too!

@jeannethponce2507 Год назад

In the United States, chilling crimes are heard every day, at gas stations, schools, in homes, etc. In Germany they threw two American women into the void, etc. Violence is everywhere. Maybe not in Switzerland.

@DonShader Год назад

The world is falling apart. People suck! Society sucks! Get used to it. Most people cannot afford to live where it doesn't. Sorry but it's true.

@kathybastianelli6982 Год назад

Was it in Vilcabamba or Malacatos? Close together, and both small towns. Sad situation!

@DonShader Год назад

The reports state Vilcabamba.

@douglassolomon5888 Год назад

@@DonShader Another statement I've heard via RU-vid said: One hour distant from Vilcabamba (nearer of Malacatos), in the so-called boonies. Also reported large sympathy from Vilcabambans for the victims, though. Same said that $10,000 had been raised in financial support for them. Remote 'farms' seem a common thread of these sad incidents.

@taniamills7326 Год назад

I've been thinking about relocating to Ecuador. I'm in my early 60s but I'm not sure where to begin single female. Any hints suggestions anything would be welcome😊thank u in advance

@DonShader Год назад

That is such a hard question to answer. Where to start? How much homework have you done? I have over 280 videos on how I did it and there are many more from other RU-vidrs. I guess the best thing for you to do is to start writing down specific questions and email me or join my Discord channel. There is a LOT of information online that's free.

@ecuadorexpat8558 Год назад

I lived in Vilca for 3 mos last year..21 home invasions..2 Cartel murders ..Robberies..NO Thanks ..glad to be back in Cuenca ❤❤

@elisirmelody4697 Год назад

That's crazy

@ecuadorexpat8558 Год назад

@@elisirmelody4697 yes it was..my neighbor got hit 2x while I was there..just recently a Colorado woman got murdered during a home invasion near Vilca..the robbers have not been found ..Not my kind of place ..nice to visit for a few days for the warm weather but living there...naaah

@elisirmelody4697 Год назад

@@ecuadorexpat8558 and near the Oriente what you think? Would be safer?

@ecuadorexpat8558 Год назад

@@elisirmelody4697 nope..You need to be near a good Expat community ..we have that here in Cuenca and in Vilcabamba..the concentration of foreigners there on that sml space ..just not for me as the town is a magnet for robberies..Cuenca is still safe except pick pockets and a lg supporting one another Expat community..

@ecuadorexpat8558 7 месяцев назад

@@elisirmelody4697 NO

@kendallmarquardt9583 Год назад

My wife and I experienced a home invasion/robbery/assault at our home in Vilcabamba last February. I was pistol-whipped and suffered a broken nose. Luckily, she was not injured. While we felt we had followed all advice to avert such an event, it still happened. There is much more to the story, and an odd set of circumstances that night, but the police and an Ecuadorian neighborhood watch group showed up quickly and stayed late to help. The criminals were caught and jailed, but I’m not sure if they are still incarcerated. I have some strong opinions about things people say like get a gun….. think that through.

@DonShader Год назад

I’m certainly not recommending getting a gun. Did you hear that in the video?

@kendallmarquardt9583 Год назад

@@DonShader I did not hear you recommend to acquire a firearm. It is a common comment I have heard kin general, both in person and online. My point is personally experiencing the situation gives me an understanding of how a particular situation may play out if there were two firearms involved. So to the uninitiated I encourage you to think through how to react if armed.

@natebarnett8956 Год назад

Did you decide to stay or have you relocated to a different city?

@alexzolik1133 Год назад

During the recent Memorial Day weekend here in the US either 13 or 14 people were killed in various mass shootings. There was a gun fight on the beach in Florida where 4 were shot or killed. In one day. They went on vacation there to see beautufull sunny beaches in Florida.

@RJMincey Год назад

@@lvovodessa, yes, except that was an extremely rare case for Montañita (and in Ecuador as a whole) while in the United States mass shootings average more than one per day.

@SoulWhisperer Год назад

Very sad, indeed. May the family and loved ones find some comfort and peace. People are always alarmed when they hear of these things, because they want a guarantee of safety. But everywhere in the world is changing and things can happen anywhere at anytime. Coming from the U.S. I know this is true. So, as you intimated, desperate times bring desperate actions. The problems we have in the world are bigger than just the crimes we hear of. Anyway, I'm with you. We may be shocked, but things are basically good here. Peace to all.

@robertwright1782 Год назад

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@frankkluz9787 Год назад

Is Loja a safe enough place ? Don't hear much about it - 'for some reason' - not many expats there ? Maybe cause it's hard to get to (?) cause the climate is great & it's a beautiful place. -?-

@magnusb6311 Год назад

Sad story

@joann5157 Год назад

If I ever moved to Ecuador, I'd leave everything of value with family members in the US. I'd give it all over in a heartbeat. Stay safe, my friend.

@Manifesting_Secret_Sketchbook Год назад

Reason why SOME have left USA in the first place an they come to Ecuador is incase war breaks out

@dario3102 Год назад

Hola podrían agregar subtitulado en spanish, thank You

@billassim9014 Год назад

Tragic,, in Chicago last weekend, 50 shot about 11 killings , from 2 to 77 years old

@captainmorgan7809 Год назад

332 million live in the USA (that we know of) and 18 million in Ecuador. Nonetheless, one life taken at the hands of criminals is one life too many. Either way, these senseless killings should not even happen no matter where you live. Ecuador may soon need to take a page from Nayib Bukele's book (El Salvador's President) and take the war to the criminals.

@DonShader Год назад

Agreed

@tibzig1 10 месяцев назад

You must have enough money to bribe yourself out of any situation in a third world country. And generally, it does not take a great deal of it. I lived in San Jose, Costa Rica for three years (work related) with a friend who had a small house. I paid $2000.00 for a Glock 17 with two magazines and a kydex holster. The pistol was kept in the house. I sold it back to the same person I bought it from for $1000.00 before leaving the country. So, essentially, I rented a firearm for three years for $1000.00. If I had gotten into a self-defense shooting I would have had to spend some more "bribe cash" to neutralize the issue.

@michaelsmith-zo8kh Год назад

Thank you for the info. It still does not make sense that they beat the men and shot her. It’s obvious that 5 men could sub due the woman why kill her.

@DonShader Год назад

Because she was defending the other man.

@BPe-ie9je Год назад

I believe it was at night, too. Seems one shouldnt be out, night, EC, now. the report is they are moving as family back to United States. its all sad. I'm moving to EC, '23. Me and my dog! See you soon. Thanks, Don.

@edenecuador 11 месяцев назад

So you have your information from CHL. You should, after knowing that the crime scene was far more than 20km from Vilcabamba, change the title of your video in Malacatos or Loja.

@DonShader 11 месяцев назад

Take your argument up with The Cuenca High Life please. My information came directly from them.

@toddmaek5436 Год назад

How many home invasion robberies happened in the U.S. at the ssme time??? I'm willing to be it was probably more because they happen everyday, but it isnt talked about in the same way on a country to country basis

@DonShader Год назад

It certainly doesn’t happen very often here.

@naderkhalighi6740 Год назад

I am sorry what happend , But I guess you cannot compair it US , which every day is mass shooting a rutine every day.

@enddayswakeupyisrael Год назад

I am from Colorado and was planning on moving to Ecuador but after watching many videos I decided Mexico is safer on the long run.

@jmp.t28b99 Год назад

Guess you are unaware of the US citizens killed in Mexico just a few months ago.

@Resmith18SR Год назад

I've been living here in Mexico for many years and it has its share of violent crime here. Most crime here isn't even reported because no matter how serious the police never follow through and do anything about it.

@yeahright532 Год назад

You might want to compare per capita murder rates, Mexico 25 per 100,00, Ecuador 14 per 100,000. USA is the safest by far at 5 homicides per 100,000.

@PeteH0121 Год назад

@@yeahright532 Ha ha. Of course there are bad areas in most cities around the world. Especially now that respect for others is in danger of being a thing of the past. You can reduce the odds by being careful about your own security but the bottom line is, if your number is up, then it's time to check out.

@Resmith18SR Год назад

@@yeahright532 Also thousands of homicides aren't even reported in Mexico, Ecuador, Brasil, Argentina because the police don't do anything and people are afraid to report because of what might happen to them.

@RJMincey Год назад

I'm late to this thread but I want only to say that developments such as this, tragic as they are, in no way deter me from my plans to move to Ecuador.

@rafaelsolorzano700 Год назад

How do we know she didn't resist Don...they didn't care,dirt bags...

@DonShader Год назад

We DON'T know that but family member apparently do.

@ronaldgross1045 Год назад

this took place at a remote location closer to Malacatos than Vilcabamba. It is reported that it took place at the wrong location. the incident took place 20 miles from Vilcabamba. what about the murders in Manta where you live? you owe the people of Vilcabomba an apology.

@DonShader Год назад

I’m not apologizing to anyone. My source was the Cuenca Highlife publication. Go yell at them.

@ronaldgross9188 Год назад

@@Vilcabamba_RE_Disclosures source of data please.

@mariadavis3797 Год назад

I don’t recommend anybody to move to Ecuador.

@geneconroy7795 Год назад

My wife and I are looking at Huatulco Mexico, population 50K, no crime if any, CLEAN. Gorgeous bays/beaches. At one time we were looking at retiring from the U.S. and going to Vilcabamba, but no more. And Ecuador is just too far from the U.S.

@michellemariposa7253 5 месяцев назад

Ecuador is a very safe & beautiful country. Like anywhere else , there are crimes. Mostly petty crimes. The USA is the most dangerous country in the world w/the highest rates of violent crimes

@silentlurcker Год назад

My understanding/guess/deduction is that the problem near vilcabamba is that there are too many “ugly American” gringos there. Ive heard many estimates from 20% - 50% of the current population are gringos. There are so many that every time i get in a taxi in loja they ask me if i live in vilcabamba and why not. While the shop owners like this. The rest of the population (mostly mestizo not indigenous) don’t like it because they can afford to live where their family has lived for centuries. They complain about gringos not learning Spanish, getting drunk everyday, and taking lots of drugs. Alot (not all)of the gringos are washed up hippies and look and act like it. Im not judging, im just saying it doesn’t go over well with the natives. So in the remote areas outside of the city, where many go to live in “paradise” are getting robbed, regularly. My deduction/Guess is this is not happening in the actual city. They caught one criminal group a month or two ago, which resulted in a reduction, but it is still happening. Its the farms without neighbors where this is happening. It appears to me, that the robbers justify the robberies because they are gringos. Thats just my thoughts I see that this story has hit several US newspapers. There was one story i read where they thought the robbery was mistaken identity, because they were looking for tia grande, the big aunt. (who was not there and didn’t live there). If true, it could be drug related. Personally, knowing what i know, im not moving to vilcabamba from Loja under any circumstances.

@silentlurcker Год назад

@@joel6427 the reason I put " ugly americN" in quoted is because there are indeed many europeas fitt8ng thar cstagory. No need to comment that there are "ugly " europeas and canadians. Everybody know exactly what I'm saying.

@silentlurcker Год назад

@@hoppeanofasgard1365 true

@D_Marrenalv Год назад

@@silentlurcker Thanks for bringing that out.. if i want to keep living among ugly loud pushy Americans, then I'd plan to stay right here in the USA for the rest of my life. But if i immigrate to Ecuador, the last town I'd want to move to is where there's a 50% colony of what i moved away from.

@edenecuador 11 месяцев назад

you know that the crime location is more to Loja then to Vilcabamba? But you should know, you well-informed Lojano. I would look for the killers more in Loja than in Vilcabamba!

@silentlurcker 11 месяцев назад

@@edenecuador i have no idea of what your point is, but I’m very interested in where you get your information. Can you pin point the farm on a map and show us? Literally every news reports, and all of the photos of the farm show mountains around the city of vilcubamba, not Loja. What is you point ?

@ecuadorexpat8558 Год назад

Ecuador is the most wonderful place and very safe

@DonShader Год назад

Oh c'mon!

@ecuadorexpat8558 Год назад

@@DonShader I ve lived in EC for 4 yrs now and have not had 1 problem!!! Ive lived in the Azuay and other places rural right upon arriving ..I learned Spanish before I came here , I always dealt with locals for my beautiful houses I ve had here...I have a Blues Band ( hottest band in Cuenca) ..my rent is 200 a month..I go to Sunrise Cafe 3 x a week and chitchat w All the Crazies..I have NEVER ever encountered ANY problems..in USA in 10 yrs I witnessed 3 murders, an Islamic Terror Machete Attack , drug zombies and homelessness .. EC is a developing country and it is not America..but its the most awesome place and I have not regretted my decision !

@DonShader Год назад

@@ecuadorexpat8558 well good for you! I'm happy for you Claudia and thanks for the feedback.

@ecuadorexpat8558 7 месяцев назад

@@Viracocha88 absolutely false

@victorortega9845 Год назад

I BEALIEVED, ACCORDING TO PEOPLE THAT I KNOW FROM THERE, THAT THE NEST THING TO DO IS TO MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. THINGS WILL GET WORSE BY THE DAY, AND I HOPED THAT NOTHING WILL HAPPED TO ANYONE.

@DonShader Год назад

I remember my first beer too.

@RJMincey Год назад

What country is free of crime? We cannot all move to Stockholm and Copenhagen. ¿Qué país está libre de delincuencia? No podemos mudarnos todos a Estocolmo y Copenhague.

@RJMincey Год назад

@@lvovodessa, According to CEO World, Ecuador's health care system ranks 25th in the world. Colombia's ranks 35th. As for murder rate, Ecuador may now be higher than Colombia, but over the past half century of more, Ecuador has had a much lower homicide rate and I expect that it will revert to this lower average in a few more years. Also, this homicide rate in Ecuador is concentrated almost exclusively in the drug trafficking circles or in domestic violence (by someone known to the victim). So long as expats exercise good judgment and avoid dangerous areas, they will be fine. As for the cost of living index, according to Numbeo, Colombia's is indeed lower than that of Ecuador, but the local purchasing power index of Colombia is much lower as well. And as a ratio of purchasing power to cost of living, Ecuador is still better. I think Colombia is improving a lot and I have high hopes for this country. Ecuador has a number of challenges right now which I believe it will overcome.