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Muses02 vs. LME49720NA vs. OPA2604AU 

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0:00 In The Rain (Muses02)
1:58 Silly (Muses02)
3:31 lost in the dream (Muses02)
4:02 忘れられないの (Muses02)
5:56 Hope (Muses02)
7:25 Carnival (Muses02)
8:35 In The Rain (LME49720NA)
10:34 Silly (LME49720NA)
12:03 lost in the dream (LME49720NA)
12:37 忘れられないの (LME49720NA)
14:35 Hope (LME49720NA)
16:03 Carnival (LME49720NA)
17:15 In The Rain (OPA2604AU)
19:15 Silly (OPA2604AU)
20:42 lost in the dream (OPA2604AU)
21:12 忘れられないの (OPA2604AU)
23:11 Hope (OPA2604AU)
24:37 Carnival (OPA2604AU)
source: Foobar2000[output DSD WASAPI(event) Amanero USB]
DAC: Dual AK4497 LPF: muses01*2, Buffer: muses03*2
Headphone Amp: Pre-amp: Dual AD797*2 + Muses02, Headphone out: Dual opa627 + 12AU7 tube + Muses02 vs. LME49720NA vs. OPA2604AU
Record: ZOOM H1(WAV 96000Hz/24bit)
Playback song:
In The Rain Acoustic Guitar Ver 歌ってみた【TORi】.WAV 44100Hz 16bits 923kbps
Silly - 家入レオ.flac 96000Hz 24bits 3177kbps
lost in the dream - 家入レオ.flac 96000Hz 24bits 2944kbps
忘れられないの - サカナクション.flac 44100Hz 16bits 938kbps
Hope - The Chainsmokers.flac 44100Hz 16bits 946kbps
Carnival - Quintino.flac 44100Hz 16bits 1032kbps
muses02
ไดนามิกเสียงร้องดีสุดใน3ตัว ปลายเสียงร้องชัด ทอดไกล ได้ยินreverbของเสียงร้องชัด ไม่มีบาดหู
เวทีเสียงกว้าง
เเยกชิ้นดนตรีเเละเสียงร้องได้ดี
ตำเเหน่งเครื่องดนตรีชัดเจน
ให้ความรู้สึกเหมือนเล่นสด
เบสลุกปลานกลาง อิมเเพคดี มวลเบสไม่หนา มีความเเน่นในเเต่ละลูก ความลึกปลานกลางเเต่ยังได้ความรู้สึกถึงอก
LME49720NA
เสียงร้องชัดที่สุดใน3ตัว ปลายเสียงร้องสั้น เสียง ซ ส ษ ศ มีความหยาบปลายๆ ไม่smoothเท่าอีก2ตัว ตำเเหน่งร้องเด่นมาข้างหน้าเล็กน้อย
เวทีเสียงปานกลาง
เเยกชิ้นเครื่องดนตรีเเละเสียงร้องได้ดีเเต่ไดนามิกเสียงน้อย ร่วมกับเวทีเสียงที่ปานกลาง ถ้าเพลงที่มีเครื่องดนตรีเยอะ ทำให้รุ้สึกเหมือนเเย่งกันเด่น
กลางสูงค่อนข้างจัดจาด
เบสลุกปลานกลาง เล็กสุดใน3ตัว มวลบาง หัวโน้ทของเบสชัดกว่าอีก2ตัว ความลึกปลานกลางได้ความรู้สึกถึงอกเล็กน้อยไม่เท่า muses02
OPA2604AU
noise floor เยอะสุด
เสียงbalance ฟังสบาย ฟังง่าย ได้ทุกเเนว
เสียงร้องชัด มีติดหนาช่วงกลางต่ำ
เวทีเสียงกว้างเเต่จะรู้สึกเเคบเพราะมวลเสียงของย่านกลางต่ำ
เเยกชิ้นดนตรีเเละเสียงร้องได้น้อยที่สุดใน3ตัว มีบางจังหวะดนตรีเเละเสียงร้องกลืนกัน ไดนามิกเสียงดีกว่า LME49720NA เเต่ไม่เท่า muses02 ตำเเหน่งเครื่องดนตรีชัดเจน
เบสลุกใหญ่ เเต่ไม่เเน่น มวลเบสค่อนข้างหนา ทำให้รุ้สึกเเรงอิมเเพคไม่ดีเท่าตัวอื่น (ถ้าเปรียบเทียบ OPA2604AU=หมอน: ใหญ่ หนา นุ้ม vs.muses02,LME49720NA=ลุกบาส: เล็ก เเน่น กระชับ) เเต่ยังคงเสียงหัวโน้ตของเบสได้ดี
สรุป
muses02: เสียงดี ไดนามิกไหลเลื่อนทุกย่านเสียง เวทีกวาง ราคาเเรงสุด เหมาะสำหรับอัพเกรด
LME49720NA: ร้องเด่น ทุกอย่างชัดไปหมด จัดจาด เหมาะกับการไปจับคู่กับหูฟังที่ต้องการดึงย่านกลางสูง
OPA2604AU: balance smooth องค์ประกอบโดยร่วมดี ฟังง่าย ฟังสบาย ได้ทุกเเนว เหมาะสำหรับเริ่มต้นหรือเเนวฟังไปเรื่อยๆฟังได้ทุกอย่าง

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Комментарии : 88   
@alberto3028
@alberto3028 2 года назад
In the rain shortcut: 00:00 MUSES02 08:36 LME49720NA 17:15 OPA2604AU
@iviv1940
@iviv1940 Год назад
LME49720 08:35, there is an aspiration in vocal during this 1 second, but it is much quiter with lme than with others opamps somehow
@ColocasiaCorm
@ColocasiaCorm Месяц назад
00:01
@listercruz007
@listercruz007 2 года назад
I upgraded my NFJ Fx Audio to LME49720NA x 3 units and 2 x Mullard tubes M8100 + Tidal + Schiit Modi 3 plus (DAC) + Sennheiser 6XX headphones + Allan Taylor (Waltz from the album -Behind the Mix) = Heaven of true high fidelity music. I can die peacefully now
@souldoc123
@souldoc123 Год назад
oh men...you can try sparkos,burson,staccatto discreet :))) its early to die :))))
@MrBenherrmann
@MrBenherrmann 2 года назад
There are so many variables involved with any audio comparisons. First - As was mentioned in one of the replies, our perceptions of differences among these components are based on what we're listening to them with (some even are listening through regular built-in computer speakers - daaaaaa). Secondly, consider the prices of these Op Amps - with the Muses02 running from $43 to $49 USD (each), while the LME 49720NA costs anywhere from $3.15 to $4.00 (each) USD - a huge price differential. Given many of those price disparities (and the OPA2604AU is now obsolete as of this reply), the best price vs performance op-amp is the LME 49720NA (which I've used in several DACs and some Asian-made class D amps (and the LME 49720 NA sounds superb in all of them). I know it's tough really because much of what we hear (and how we hear it) is subjective - with variables such as ear canal shapes and cleanliness, along with personal preferences, etc. I strongly suggest that if you are considering paying the price for the Muses02 (a regular IC design), then by all means look at the more sophisticated Discrete Op Amps such as the Burson and Sparkos Labs versions. After doing a lot of op-amp rolling in a variety of audio gear, I discovered the absolutely wonderful (subjective, I know) Sparkos Labs SS3602 dual channel discrete op-amps which have transformed much of my gear. Your mileage may vary (YMMV).
@halrichard1969
@halrichard1969 9 месяцев назад
Of all three I liked the LME best. Seemed there was more dynamic separation between instruments and wider soundstage. I am listening thru my PC/Schitt Dac/ Presonus Studio 7s.
@2009morovis
@2009morovis 2 года назад
Thanks for your time and effort in putting together the video. The three op-amps are good. Personally, I like the OPA2604 more than the other two. The other two are slightly better technically, but the sound of 2604 is more enjoyable.
@albertri
@albertri Год назад
I like both Muse02 and OPA260 specially the intro vocal of Rain wow you can hear clearing when the singer take a deep breath very very clean the 49720 its a bit muddy at that part...
@corndog9482
@corndog9482 Год назад
To my ears, OPA2604AU and MUSES02 sound VERY close, and I like both.
@дмитрийиванов-м8ф7х
muses de liv живой звук opa de lamp лампа lme de tranz транзистор Senk to video 1000 laik
@BoxingNationPH
@BoxingNationPH 3 года назад
wow keep on posting this kind of testing.
@trinich92
@trinich92 14 часов назад
Нужно учитывать и цену, пара muses 02 это минимум 5000 р, пару OPA 2604 можно найти за 1000 рублей. Лично на днях взял три оригинальных 2604 первых выпусков у человека с хранения за 1000 р. Играет ли Muses 02 в 5 раз лучше чем 2604 ?! Это я считаю по разнице в цене.
@angelguzmanmondragon2270
@angelguzmanmondragon2270 3 года назад
I like the crystalline sound of the muses, the other warm
@Меломан1974
@Меломан1974 3 года назад
Muses 02 👍👍👍
@notube2658
@notube2658 2 года назад
LME49720NA is the more opened and airy, but it depend on your hears...
@Badb816
@Badb816 Год назад
10:38 lme49720 19:19 opa 02:05 mu02
@wewerk
@wewerk 10 месяцев назад
opa sounds best here
@николайзелененко-о6д
OPA2604AU
@flyindo
@flyindo 4 месяца назад
To my ears Muses02 sounds the most wide and has the biggest reverb effect. What do you guys think?
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
Mu02 can be replaced with ADA4898 providing a different mood. A more dynamic one. 2604 can be replaced with NJM8801, or OPA827, or Muses8902, or AD797, because it’s a mid level op amp, that gives only a space without any remarkable performance.
@siddheshdeshpande7183
@siddheshdeshpande7183 7 месяцев назад
I like the sound of LME49720 with respect to what can we do with it as it provides a bigger soundstage to work with. Sounds a little retro with that slightly anemic but controlled base, a little mid base bloom and Soft but well extended trebles. Feels a bit euphonic in my opinion. I like the Muses transients better but guess I'll go for that airy soundstage.
@Pikachu78256
@Pikachu78256 2 года назад
Muses 02 👍👍👍, opa2604 👍👍, 49720 👍
@olegg3566
@olegg3566 2 года назад
Согласен
@Atelierul29
@Atelierul29 2 года назад
You do realize that we hear the music through our own systems,don't you?
@Astralify
@Astralify 2 года назад
It's a relative comparison. The differences should be perfectly audible, unless your system is really low fidelity.
@Atelierul29
@Atelierul29 2 года назад
@@Astralify not even in the nicest dream!
@metalcat6801
@metalcat6801 16 дней назад
OPA best dynamics, more detail than MUSE, I will get it!
@alberto3028
@alberto3028 2 года назад
Which opamp has your recording device (ZOOM H1) in the ADC? perhaps it is an impediment to differentiate well, surely in person the differences are remarkable
@ザカマン
@ザカマン 3 года назад
OPA2604
@SZTILER
@SZTILER 3 года назад
Thank you for this comparison. Now I know that it is not worth replacing opamp in my prodigy cube black 👍. Lme -it's a pretty good game. But apparently the new LmE49990 is even better
@beslemeto
@beslemeto 5 месяцев назад
No it's crap! Too sharp and digital sound!
@estinoazell1016
@estinoazell1016 3 года назад
Hello Sir may I have In The Rain Acoustic Guitar Ver 歌ってみた【TORi】.WAV 44100Hz 16bits 923kbps original source ? or album/single download would be nice
@Владислав-щ1б
@Владислав-щ1б 2 года назад
OPA2604AU👍
@AmriNasti21
@AmriNasti21 Год назад
can i directly change my opamp NE5532 to OPA2604AU ?
@kumarsaride5054
@kumarsaride5054 Год назад
Yes.. I did and it was great improvement in audio.
@mrnobodyz
@mrnobodyz Год назад
To my ears and iPhone the muses 02 sounds slightly less boxed in than the OPA but it’s a tiny difference and in the end choice would come down to taste and budget. I recently upgraded one of my cheap DAC,s with an Muses 02 and wasn’t that impressed (unlike the Oracle 11 02 which I’d used in another of the same model DAC a week earlier.
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
A budget DAC strongly needs a power lines upgrade. Without this upgrade any of opamp gives only I would say 10-20%. Because ALL budget DACs have a terrible power supply.
@mrnobodyz
@mrnobodyz Год назад
@@sc0or Thanks for the tip, good to know. Although I have a clean-ish power supply and decent mains cables I am still using the supplied smps wallwart as I haven’t managed to find a decent linear psu yet.🤷🏻‍♂️
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
@@mrnobodyz Unfortunately, it's not only about an external PSU, but more likely about replacing cheap LDO ICs, capacitors, and so on with expensive ones. In an ideal case you have to have a 5uV (as a max) noise on a power line, instead you can find x1000 more noisy +5V or +3.3V, or +-15V. I mean internal power lines to feed oscillators, DAC IC, OpAmps, USB receiver, etc. That's for a very experienced technician. And it can double a price of a budget DAC. And sure, it makes sense if your acoustic allows you to hear the difference. If not, just save money for an upgrade, and then you can decide what to make with your DAC.
@mrnobodyz
@mrnobodyz Год назад
@@sc0or I knew what you meant and I’m aware of the limitations of a cheap products. I just don’t take it as seriously as some might.😂 After all the stuff I’ve read and listened to online (🤦🏻) and at home I still am not 💯 sure the Muses 02 suit my (digital) taste. I plan to buy a Fosi V3 amp to play with maybe It’ll change my opinion on the Muses 02.
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
@@mrnobodyz Yeah.. Sometimes it might appear "boring". But in fact it just reproduces a sound "honestly". So, other components must correspond. Otherwise you might find another OpAmp sounding better because it colorize a sound, so your system weaknesses are masked with that "colorization".
@for_the_nation
@for_the_nation 2 года назад
Opa2604
@ibanezjjung
@ibanezjjung 2 года назад
Great comparison
@funnytoys1430
@funnytoys1430 Год назад
Muses02 более прозрачный и детализированный звук
@carlosrodrigo4384
@carlosrodrigo4384 7 месяцев назад
Gentleman, may you inform where can i buy MUSES2?
@Mister-Salieri
@Mister-Salieri 3 месяца назад
Mouser electronics
@Archibald787
@Archibald787 3 года назад
muses 02 sounds fatter with good dynamic while LME49720NA has deeper scene
@iviv1940
@iviv1940 Год назад
Do these opapmps have the same requirements for the nominals of the circuit? Is it right just to replace one by another?
@SuperSeltzer
@SuperSeltzer Год назад
Their operating voltages vary from 15 to 24V out there. But the circuit designers usually stay around 15V for supply voltage with this in mind.
@sebuniuniuniuhq804
@sebuniuniuniuhq804 Год назад
Muses02❤
@chengc.k.9005
@chengc.k.9005 2 года назад
Muses02
@frontier9
@frontier9 3 года назад
Nice recordings but still the sanity of what you used versus what I listened to it on ... is pretty fucked up
@ibanezjjung
@ibanezjjung 2 года назад
Keep doing bro i like your content
@Mister-Salieri
@Mister-Salieri 3 месяца назад
MUSES02 on top.
@huantoe
@huantoe 9 месяцев назад
I like opa 2604
@SileDevil
@SileDevil Год назад
what op amp do you reccomend to increase low frequencies bass and sub bass and make the highs smoother?
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
For my ears you can find a good low end with these op amps: LT1364(5), NJM8801, ADA4898(-1,-2), OP275, OPA827, OPA627 (some of them are dual, some of them are mono, fets and bipolars). But all of them have a different sound. If you need a superior sound with a good punchy bass, this is ADA4898. If you need an accent on mids and lows, this is OP275. 8801, 1364, and 827 are good balanced op amps. 627 is like 4898, but 4898 is about 20-30% better.
@SileDevil
@SileDevil Год назад
@@sc0or very detailed thank you !
@blacklistYT1
@blacklistYT1 Год назад
​@@sc0or hello you recommended seller op AMP in world ?
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
@@blacklistYT1 digikey, mouser, farnell?... But it's always about a responsibility of a particular manager who orders op amps. TI however has its own store. So, opa/ina/lm/lme/tl/ne is possible to purchase directly from the manufacturer.
@blacklistYT1
@blacklistYT1 Год назад
@@sc0or hello I need a punch bass character op amp, can you recommend it ?
@ruslan5268
@ruslan5268 2 года назад
opa2604!!!
@pedrova8058
@pedrova8058 7 месяцев назад
If you want god transients, you need a fast op amp, MUses2 only has 5V/uS (according to the data sheet), that smears the faster transients. The other 2 are much faster in response, so, less distortion=more clarity and details (the 49720 has a slew rate of 20V/uS. Even the humble 5532 is faster than the Muses, with 9V/uS, which means less distortion in transients) Here it's noticeable in the full guitar strums in "lost in the dream". The Muses2 may be more "pleasant", warm sounding, but the other 2 are more clinical, more precise in what they reproduce
@ColocasiaCorm
@ColocasiaCorm Месяц назад
Did you even listen
@alberto3028
@alberto3028 2 года назад
Muses02 has better transients and OPA sounds detailed.
@pedrova8058
@pedrova8058 7 месяцев назад
If you want god transients, you need a fast op amp, MUses2 only has 5V/uS (according to the data sheet), that smears the faster transients. The other 2 are much faster in response, so, less distortion=more clarity and details (the 49720 has a slew rate of 20V/uS. Even the humble 5532 is faster than the Muses, with 9V/uS, which means less distortion in transients) Here it's noticeable in the full guitar strums in "lost in the dream"
@kelvinfai43
@kelvinfai43 Год назад
i like opa2604
@andrews4379
@andrews4379 3 месяца назад
same
@budgetking2591
@budgetking2591 2 года назад
all sound same
@joshdeakins1775
@joshdeakins1775 10 месяцев назад
what are you listening threw?
@СергейКорнев-ъ5ь
@СергейКорнев-ъ5ь 5 месяцев назад
Lme на мой вкус более естественная.
@caraudiofan4277
@caraudiofan4277 Год назад
Muses02 muddy 2604 best
@velivool
@velivool 3 года назад
2604
@maxscripten_ua9236
@maxscripten_ua9236 2 года назад
Muses02
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