If you didn't see this one, check out the other super rare fruit that Brian sent me. Solanum Pachyandrum: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dETWxz-j4Yw.html
This is a cherry tomato that grows in the summer without enough watering, I have full ones in the yard. I think the information you found is factual if you look at the pictures that are at 1:58, then at 2:05 and at 2:11, you will see that the flowers that appear there belong to the passion fruit, and the plant at 2:11 is an eggplant plant. In addition there will be something very suspicious in the fact that all the information about this fruit was written only recently, and only by one person (especially when it comes to being known and widely used in the areas where it is grown). Wikipedia is a site where anyone can write and edit, so one should take what is written there with some suspicion.
They really look like a yellow version of black nightshade (solanum nigrum). Try them if you can find them, but most likely you'll have to grow your own or find them in the wild, as they get really soft towards peak ripeness.
I think the h/j sound in jaltomata is supposed to be like a really flemmy h. Like that hchhhhhhhh sound you make when you taste something nasty or bitter. Thats the best way i can interpret that sound lol
When I was a child, in Mexico, there were black ones in my garden and my father said they were "jaltomates". They were pretty tasty. Like a sweet tomato. The name of those is "Jaltomata procumbens". Jaltomate (or the Latin name Jaltomata) is a hispanized Nahuatl word. It comes from "xalli" meaning sand and "tomatl" tomato >>> "xaltomatl". The X in Nahuatl represents an "sh" sound. The sh sound in 1500 Spanish evolved to the modern Spanish J and many Native Mexican words went through this same sound shift, like the word Mexico itself. This modern sound is somehow similar to an English h sound but indeed more guttural. So it's not that a German dude actually invented the word. He just took a word that already existed for the whole genus.
Do I spy a fellow linguist. I love allophones and how phonology influences orthography. I was just on the tl literally today talking about how aguacatl means scrotum bc they look like ball sacks 😂.
No freakin way, until you pulled up the page that said it was from Peru, I kept thinking "it must be something else, it must be something else," but nope. I've tried these before (while living in Peru) because I was interested in all the weird fruits there that were unknown to the rest of the world. I'm stunned to see these mentioned anywhere else, but I suppose you *would* be the person to find them.
The word is Nahuatl: Xāltomatl (lit. "sand tomato"). Nahuatl X is pronounced like English SH, but when borrowed into Mexican Spanish and spelled J, the pronunciation is like an English H. If a German were to say it, like Weird Explorer suggests, it would not be with the English CH as in 'CHeek' (like he says) but with the German CH as in 'loCH', as in German 'BuCH.' The sound is the same as Greek χ, Georgian ხ, Latin American Spanish j, or Mandarin, Japanese, or Korean h (as in 河, 発表, or 흥정).
@@FiSH-iSH J in the Latin alphabet is a medieval development used to distinguish Latin i used as a consonant from Latin i used as a vowel: "yuh" (IPA 'j') as opposed to "ee" (IPA 'i'). That consonant sound shifted in English and French to their modern value "juh/dzuh" (IPA 'd͡ʒ'), and in Spanish to various forms of "huh" or "chuh" (IPA 'h', 'x', or 'χ') depending on region/dialect.
5:51 That's usally the case with berry-type fruits. This can vary significantly between species and specimens, but I once ate a berry where the unripe one was really dry-acidic, one that was just right tasted exactly like caramel, while one that was overripe felt a lot like wine.
Kind of curious, can you taste them I'm assuming allergic to fruit would mean tasting just not swallowing. Though imma guess there is also cases of just tasting can cause issues?.
You should try some conifer false fruits. Many of them seem to be listed as edible, but very very little information exists about the actual qualities of the fruits. All sorts of good ones to try in the Podocarpaceae and Taxaceae.
the taxaceae fruits are pink on the outside and colourless and very slimy on the inside. I would love to know how they taste but the problem is only that pink seed mantle is edible, the rest of the tree, including the seed "inside" the mantle is highly poisonous as in able to kill you without remedy. Taxaceae can kill a horse or a cow that nibbled on them. Though birds eat the seeds for the false fruits, the seeds can pass through them without being digested. To me its literary a forbidden fruit because I don't know how much toxins would pass in to you from the place the seed attaches to the tree even if I were to spit the pit out. That and I'm afraid I would bite down on the seed.... The other family I haven't heard of but look interesting.
@@dicenia3881 I always thought abouy removing the seed and cutting the bottom half of the yew cup off so you're left with like a... yewy-onion-ring or something.
I know you're not the greatest at pronouncing things, but for reference, Quechwa is pronounced KE-chwa (e is pronounced like the e in error, ch is pronounced like they are in English, same goes for the wa)
When Jared says its "in the solanaceae family" & your mind says "Oh! Tomato!" & you only know that from watching Weird Explorer. Not only are your videos great & interesting but also educational! Thank you friend! ❤🍅🍌🍇🍎
Die hard WFE and Jared fan. “Crime Pays but Botany Doesn’t” is a really good channel. He’ll will have you saying Latin names with a thicc Chicago accent in no time.
It sucks thinking about all the things in the past we will never experience. imagine all the foods that have gone extinct before we could try them out.
I love watching these in bed when I'm about to sleep. With my eyes closed I can nearly taste these fruits just because of how well he describes flavor. Anyone else?
Can you review 2 types of berry? 1- Morus Cathayana - China, Japan & Korea 2- Morus Wittiorum - China This is the second time to leave the same comment. 😅
@@garrett1847 Not now for sure but later or someone there can send it to him like this video. The two berries above are super rare. I try my best to find one picture but I wasn't lucky even with the Chinese websites 😭 and for sure that type of fruits is what you want to watch here. 😎
they are rare but only in terms of buying,Morus Wittiorum is not that much grown for commercial fruit purposes, but grown for silk, and is actually not hard to find in the wild Morus Cathayana on the other hand, is used as Wind Resilient Trees, so can be found in packs in the right season but would suggest going for any mulberry species really, for by my experience they don't taste much apart
many members of the Morus genus would use the word "桑" , which roughly translates to mulberry for example,Morus Wittiorum being長穗桑 and Morus Cathayana being華桑 the fruit of the plants of lots of morus genus plants would be called "桑葚" btw, I'm from Taiwan, and is native mandarin(traditional)
"More gutteral like a german CH" "Chaltomata" ...Jared. German CH is pronounced either as that back-of-the-throat noise you make when you imitate a cat hissing, or SH. (Northern and southern accent respectively) /rant
I mean... how is he supposed to know that? Most English has a strong Germanic influence, but it's not really a language that is widely learned here. I thank you for the information, but it needn't be a rant
A "discovery" that people have been eating for generations. This fruit's story is basically the history of Latin America and the Caribbean in a nutshell.
How about that 😂 😂 Discovered while K'iche' people pop them in their mouths and probably laugh too. Interesting people and language. I don't know if I can speak any language that uses clicks.
@lananieves4595 So, something being known regionally to a local population, but not studied, as was pointed out in the video as being "New to Science" indicates that the genus and species of the plant was never described before. The scientist who came across this species didn't say "I am the first person to have ever encountered one of those" it was more along the lines of "This particular species of plant has never been described within my feild of study" as it was mentioned in the paper. Also, my last name is Nieves as well which is super cool 😁.
Looks like a tomato and gooseberry had a baby! Edit: I posted this at like the start, hilariously I guessed his comparisons and what not perfectly, lol. 🤣
Has to be the spanish H or the German J. the gutteral "ch" is the "j" sound. Cant ve a "Y" sound or else the other Y eould be redundant. The Y is "ya" like in english. or "ee" like in spanish. Haltomata or Jaltomata
There's a place in Perú called "Cajacay"... "Cape gooseberry", Physallis peruviana, another Solanacea, original from the Andes... Same as the "Guinea" pig, neither from Africa nor a pig...
So it may interest you to know I actually grew a few Jaltomata species from seed in CT of all places. Thomas Mione was my instructor at CCSU. One of them was unknown to science circa 2004. I may have very well been the first American to cultivate them besides Dr. Mione himself. I found the unknown species them to have an almost oniony tomato flavor.i grew them in pretty poor soil however. Not sure if that affected the flavor. The other variety i grew was a black berried variety...Jaltomata procumbens if I recall correctly. That one was a tad more bitter and less sweet but lots of the same notes. You could likely succeed growing them in NY in a pot. I had to pollinate them manually as their native pollinators don't exist here. If you want seeds, Dr. Mione still teaches at CCSU in New Britain, CT.
Some pollinators may work for certain species. Certain species have different flower types for beetles, bees, "humming birds" - probably relatives of humming birds. Some pollinators take a year to really start going to new flowers types as well. Some that I will be growing this year: Jaltomata bernardelloana Jaltomata ventricosa - two different types Jaltomata herrerae Jaltomata procumbens Quite an interesting / diverse genus. Different pollinators might prevent easy cross pollination - but I will attempt hand pollination for hybrids. Some of these apparently taste quite nice while others are somewhat larger in size. Jaltomata weberbaueri seems to have rather large fruit, but the seed available online is a bit expensive... Maybe next year.
@@garrett1847 i was doing an independent study so to guarantee fruit I pollinated them myself. Its been over a decade but i believe i was trying to see if two species from different regions were capable of viable seeds via cross pollination and then cataloguing any morphological differences in the resulting plants.
Its very similar to: Solanum sisymbriifolium wich in Uruguay and Argentina is known as "revienta caballo" or "Horse killer" very probable not because the fruit but of the thorny plant that probably mess up horse digestive system.
I'm growing some of these this year - so far the musho seedlings resemble those of other solanaceae, in particular goldenberry and s. nigrum. The most developed of them has already started forming some flower buds, so wish me luck - each year I get my tlanoxtle to bloom as well, but they've never set any fruit 😞.
I had those orange cape gooseberries before and they just tasted watery and very slightly bitter to me with a tiny tinge of tomato flavor, so like a cherry tomato.. Idk maybe ive only had underripe gooseberries.. and maybe the same for cherry tomatoes bc most people seem to like those too
That looks like the fruit in those ornamental plants the rich neighbors have. That we kids use to throw at each other like the little pickles/watermelon.
This is super cool, but I hope it doesn't become invasive. Its pretty irresponsible for websites to see seeds with little information, and since its a weed where it is native it has the potential to be invasive.
I think it should be like an H sound in Yiddish, like when they say "Hchhh-annukah" (like they have something stuck in the back of their throat lol).. I've heard Mayan people make the same sound..
@@youtube.commentator There are several million people who speak a Mayan language in Mexico and various Central American countries, and there are many different Mayan languages (something like 20+?).
The binary names in the Wiki article look like many are named after local persons or placenames, so I would expect that the "j" in this case is a "jota" or "ha" sound, rather then "ya" or "cha'. My amateur opinion.
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When I went to Peru, I tried over a dozen local varieties of fruit sold nowhere else in the world. The biodiversity in that country is mind blowing. My favorite weird Peruvian fruit is Camu Camu, which makes amazing lemonade.
that's really cool! Makes me wonder how many 'forgotten' species there are, like species that people used to eat hundreds of thousands of years ago, whose culture disappeared or they moved away and now no one knows about them (like a step further than this fruit, not even locals who know it)
The original point of Latin-styled binomials was to reduce ambiguity--using a dead language means pronunciation and lexicon don't change in the way a living language does. But people pronounce Latin badly and the scientific community is moving away from using exclusively dead language words in binomials anyway, so it's all a mess and we need a new taxonomic system regardless because of all the things we've learned about genetics... So in the end I don't think there's a "should" when it comes to pronouncing scientific names. Because this name is so obviously taken from Spanish words I'd be inclined to default to Spanish pronunciation, especially since the Latin pronunciation would obscure the "j" and "y" in the spelling. But that's just me.
Yeah but then we would need to deal with people agreeing on a whole new format. Tomatoes and potatoes should be in a sub-genus but they aren't because scientists can't agree on anything.
Have you eaten lama fruits? It’s a persimmon here in Hawaii. Not even most people here have any clue. They are berry size with a nice persimmon flavor...
"It's a new science species", asks locals .. Huh, oh yeah we eat those .. Columbus lol, like locals ever get recognition. Little is known .. well .. Try asking those people. Lol.
Very interesting video, as usual! I also enjoy when you can really feel the excitement someone has when making a totally new discovery. It's usually pretty infectious, and I find myself getting caught up in it, too.
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