Mushoku Tensei Has Finally Gotten Better, But is It Redemption? 

Just to add to your comment. It is 100% ok to not like the show because you find characters in it disgusting, creepy or anything else. But if you don't personally find that interesting to watch does not make the writing bad. I think it is very clear a lot of people think the writing is very good.

LOL, this man never watched any American Tv Show. Character just say / feel like they gonna change but revert back the next season. MT is never the same Rudeus through out the entire series

To be more specific, real growth doesn't happen overnight. Character development in anime typically does happen all at once. Mushoku tensei just takes a more realistic approach to depicting growth.

How many relapses do we need? We are not talking a few days, weeks or months, we are talking YEARS of character development from his perspective. To see him act the same in ep 1 and ep 17, 12 years later, is very strange.

@@mahistv Considering he spent nearly 20 years as a recluse, it's not that strange. Also to say that he acts the same in Ep 1 and 17 is straight cap.

We real fans know it. It’s just this senseless new gen’s that can’t comprehend something that is beyond their claustrophobic walls of comfort.

I've said that in the video actually, the part where it's a shame people dropped it too soon

This dummy loser RU-vidr probably did this video to rage bait

People don't just change, but for a show that is all about character development, there is not much of it up until Ranoa

​@@mahistvSo you're saying that ep 1 rudeus is the same as rudeus at the end of season 1, I normally agree with yo, but mate I don't agree with you on this anime. You don't make sense.

​@mahistv im reading the novels he doesn't change until critical moments in his life Volume 2 ,5,6,7,11 and especially 12(just finished) U are nitpicking the show and Rudy's actions so much it's irritating. All of this is discussed in the novels with Rudy's monologues and everyone else telling him what he's doing wrong. Honestly man yeah I get that the show can't explain EVERYTHING but you're only judging stuff surface level wich is so shallow. Rudy changes all of the things in the anime are addressed in the show and the novels. If u want to say the show is shit to you then just say that. U don't need to try to sound so smart about it.

​@@ABlackBoiAnims If you learn about the light novel rudeus doesn't change his a pervert and a sexual deviant and has 3 wives

I understand that, but it's been 13 years of this character development with many people dying in front of Rudy, for him to just stand there and not help beastfolk. Especially after saving their kids with Ruijerd and seeing woman/children being slaughtered again. I've never compared him to any other MC, only to his own self, and I can confidently say that for a show that is all about character development, its sorely lacking in development of the MC (until Ranoa arc)

Being fragile is fixed with not getting hit. Seeing into the future for a second or two helps with exactly that. I can understand not relying on the foresight, but not using it at all is even worse

@@mahistv Not getting hit becomes a problem when sword fighters can move at the speed of sound and swing at the speed of light.

​@@mahistv The "Sword God Style" users have a literal attack which consists of cutting at the speed of light. It doesn't matter if Rudeus can see into the future if he can't react fast enough. It's like knowing having future sight in the middle of a shooting test ground, but with everyone aiming at you. You might know they are gonna shoot, but you aren't faster than the bullets, so you're dying either way.

To be fair the battle aura has not been talked about in the anime version for some reason. Also some of the other stuff needs some basic level of understanding about visual storytelling. Some of it is just implied trough visuals actions etc.

no way youre saying mushoku tensei is more realistic characters. I wasted my time reading that

@@ansem3463 Just incase your actually being serious you should just lookup Psyculturists, he's a practicing psychologist who is breaking down Mushoku tensei.

@@ansem3463 just look up "the psychulturist" he's a psychologist that breaks down the characters.

1) He can mitigate that with his Eye of Foresight, which he barely uses early on. 2) 2 seconds is a ton. Take professional fighters, when they predict enemy movements correctly, it's an instant GG in most cases. If they were able to know for sure what will happen next, even a second into the future, they'd become borderline undefeatable. 3) If that is true, sure. But I haven't seen him using it at all in the anime, hence my comment at the very beginning of the video - "the writing, AT LEAST IN THE ANIME, is bad, all the way till Ranoa..." 4) See point 3# 5) He doesn't need to see infinitely into the future, just 1 or 2 seconds to push people out of the way with magic like he did with Mr Cleaner. 6) If he is so scared of someone stronger than him, what about Orsted, he had zero self-preservation during that interaction? Or how about saving a girl being killed an arms-length away? You say that in order to help people you need to be some sort of hero, no, this is what normal people do when they can. No way Rudy wasn't able to handle a couple of thugs while Ruijerd was close by. 7) Watch episode 4 and see how he fought Paul while being 5 y. o. He barely needs any time to use magic to maneuver around, because that's the whole reason why silent spellcasting is so good. 8) Bullshit, when it's your life or someone else's, the adrenaline will make you forget about holding back. 9) No it doesn't, that's why I'm saying - why do you show me him "overcoming it" and then bringing it back like it never happened. 10) My point exactly. Why did he wait for Mr Cleaner to deal with the strongest warrior in the village and only then engage? If he had his eye turned on, he would have seen an opening or would have been able to save Gyes, increasing his chances to win. And speaking of realistic characters. Take my comment about Rudy's ability to talk to people. Where did he get it? From talking to his family? If he was such a shut-in, there is no way he'd develop that level of communication skills, let alone the ability to read the room as he did when he was little. And if he did acquire these skills, how can he NOT understand that he should mind his own business instead of talking to Orsted? Another "realistic" thing is his inability to learn life lessons. I'm sorry, but when a 50 year old still doesn't grasp that licking panties in public while they are on your head leads to dire consequences, that's not realistic, that's insane. People keep blaming Subaru for not realizing what's going on sooner or acting all weird. Yet they praise Rudy's character for the same thing?

That's totally fair

The video isn't as bad as the title or the comments suggest.

I actually agree. However it didn't affect my thoughts on prior to Ranoa

The demon eye is a very powerful, but limited ability. Using it Rudy can see all possible futures in his line of sight, as long as he supplies it with enough mana. The two key points are: 1. He sees ALL possible futures. Meaning he needs to limit the number of futures he sees or else he can't diffentiate between them. He can do this by looking less far into the future when it becomes less predictable, such as in when fighting skilled opponents. 2. He SEES all possible futures. Meaning it doesn't help him against things he doesn't see or understand, nor against things happening outside his field of view. If his opponent is overwhelmingly stronger seeing the future won't help him win a fight. If Rudy can't make sense of what his future eye shows him it's pointless. Or if his enemy can trick him into looking the wrong way he won't see a sneak attack coming.

I didn't see him using Demon Eye before University. Like with my example with Soldat during the dragon attack. I agree with depression and all other serious topics they bring up. But don't show me him overcoming something and relapsing back in 10 minutes. Hmm. I think his journey to marry Sylphy was quite wholesome

@@mahistv In the example you gave the demon eye wouldn't have helped. The reason they got surprised by the dragon is because the pack of luster grizzlies that was coming there way kicked up a cloud of snowdust. A future seeing eye is great, but it won't show you things you can't see.

​@@mahistv he used, the demon eye, he just didnt abuse it, we dont know how much mana does it use, relying too much on it sounds dangerous, thats why he only uses it in situations where there is no other choice, instead of when he cant take advantage of it (doldia fight, he used it all trough his battle) or he would be burining mana with no advantage (dragon, he doesnt know when is it appearing, and by the time he knows, everyone has heared it, altho he does freeze when he sees it) i bet he was using it in the throne room, but the demon eye doesnt show your own movement downwards Also Sylphy belived trought the whole arc and still belives Rudeus was there to search for her, but he didnt think about doing that seriously even once, it makes me so mad

i forgot to say this, but the way rudeus behave with orsted is the same way he behaved with ruijerd, it was literally the same situation, and he tried to use his demon eye at when they stopped, but it failed the first time one more trivia i found; those "lizards" are snow drakes, considered of relative threat as red dragons

Even the colors and the character design matches for that joke🤣

LOL

I agree, the full picture must be seen to get a proper judgement, yet I can't get over the fact that Mushoku Tensei is turning into an isekai harem power fantasy, when it's supposed to be the opposite

@@mahistv At the surface level Mushoku Tensei is a harem power fantasy. It is the progenitor of many trashy isekai tropes after all. The difference between MT and what came after is in the quality of the writing.

@@mahistv Who told you that it's supposed to be the opposite? Why don't you just judge the show on what it is?

Foresight - my problem is not how it works. It's how he uses it , which he doean't in half the situations. There is never a bad moment to use it for a bit, just to see what's coming. If he saw a clay pot falling from the sky (which is not very predictable), he can see that the floor beneath him is about to be moved. "He uses it almost all of the time" maybe in the light novel, not in the anime. He is OP. Maybe lacking in RAW power to take on Orsted at this time, but he has a kit to dominate most opponents. What other character has an eye of foresight, silent spellcasting and Laplace factor? I never called him a hero. My problem is that he goes to save Ruijerd (a guy who is all about saving kids), sees a child brutally killed and dares to tell him "of course we are saving them". His actions don't match his words, nor what he learned so far How did the beastfolk not catch up with Ruijerd 5 minutes after they split? He wasn't sprinting fullspeed to safety with 5 kids in tow, so what took them so long? OK, I can accept how they interpreted the scene, but again, if you as police capture a wierdo on the street for some crime, would you not listen to what he has to say about missing children you are investigating? I'd love to see the face of the parents of the rescued children when they would have learned that thanks to his captors being so shortsighted, the kids could have been found earlier. Fighting with the bears. I don't get what you are saying. Rudy gave up and said "it's too late now, we are dead" then proceeded to wipe the bears no problem. Again, you misunderstand what my issue is, it's the fact that Rudy was show to grow from this experience and he didn't (as seen in the next episode) Lizards, S rank? I have a hard time believing that, because their party didn't seem strong enough to handle this level of difficulty. Soldat was one-shotting them, while struggling against a Red Dragon. Something doesn't add up. Sarah situation. OK, that makes it a bit better, but there is still no reason for Rudy to run his mouth like that nor for Soldat not to stop him. You are missing one VERY important thing about Orsted. Everithyng about him screams "mind your own business", and since Rudy was all about being safe, not playing a hero, it's very abnormal for him to engage with him, after seeing what his presence did to Eris, Ruijerd and a poor ox. Fight with girls - my point exactly, we finally see him putting his life experience to use. I agree that I haven't seen the process fully, but as I said - it goes against my interpretation of the show so far and what values it was proposing. I simply don't like this development, regardless of the process. As for not going after Sara, well, they spend a while together and they had a bond of some kind (especially after saving her). It's only natural to clear things up a bit, considering he poured his soul to Soldat just now, who he wasn't even in touch with up until today.

@@mahistv He uses it all the time. We see it in anime as well during all major fights, against Gallus fight, against Paul,, against Orsted. you are stating if he can see the pot in front of him, he should be able to see ground beneath him disappearing, but thats the drawback of eye of foresight as ground beneath him isnt in his vision. or he cant see past the cloud of snow.. Yeah predicting was the wrong word. its more like he doesnt see one definite future but multiple possible futures ( I have no idea why I thought predicting was the right word, sorry about that) Sadly he is not OP. yes, he has those skills (Sylphie has two of them) but useless against enemies who can easily deflect magic. like again, those low level thugs in kidnapping scene were able to deflect his fireballs. He is a powerful mage, but mages are not as strong as swordsman. I think you missed a few points. 1) Thier task was freeing those kids. The smuggler said that they would smuggle Ruijerd, in return they must free the smuggled goods, the kids were the goods.(Why the smuggler wanted to free the kids was cut from anime) 2) If he says anything else, that saving kids is not a priority, he knows how Ruijerd would react based on the dead adventurers. Beastfolks did catch upto Ruijerd. they got into scuffle, because of miscommunication between them as Ruijerd is a poor talker, after that they priotized going after remaining members of the smuggling ring, and bunch of stuff happened. It was stated in episode 14. They didnt need any info on the children. The patriach of the tribe found the children's scent and went after them. they already had children in their care (more so in Eris' care). Watch episode 13 again. Gyes says ill interrogate him about location, Gustav says no need, I found their scent. In Bear scene, he had given up on his life. He had no intention of living, but seeing others fight so hard for living, reignited his will to live. and with this reignited drive, he decided to give his all. This was emphasized in the ending of the episode as well, with him pep talking himself, "ofcourse it matters if you die" "even though they are far away, you are not alone". He grew from that experience. Yes, Lizards were S class. you mightve skipped it as it was stated in a rather boring argument between Soldat and the other guy, but Rudeus and gang were there for A rank quest of just collecting the scales. they werent supposed to be fighting any snow drakes, but there was a risk bunch of them might pop out. Soldat and his S rank team were hunting snow drakes in another region. the snow drakes, in an attempt to run away from them ended up running into Rudeus's team. A solo snowdrake would be weak, but in a group they are considered S rank. A group of A rank monsters can be considered as S rrank threat. And Red Dragon is far stronger than an S rank threat. Soldat didnt notice her at first, but when he noticed, he tried to stop Rudeus "Wait Quagmire! Dont say any further". Rudeus was drunk. You are missing one point. Rudeus is not feeling any of "mind your own business" aura from Orsted. Ox, Eris and Ruijerd did, not him. and Orsted also answered all his questions properly, in no way was he acting like "mind your business boy". Yes it was risky, but how likely are you to meet a person who is likely extremely knowledgable (he knows about your party members, even though they dont know him). And Rudeus also had the goal of finding his family, so asking a supposedly knowledgable person is a great way to know their location. Well to each their own. The harem aspect didnt bother me much considering how it was handled. Coming to Sara, she mightve developed feelings for him, he didnt. he didnt develop any bond with her. He didnt save her because he wanted to save her, but after thinking that Eris abandoned him, he didnt like the idea of someone abandoning one of their own and went to correct it. Publically mocking someone's body type and romantic ideas is kinda past the point of no return, so it was natural for Rudeus to leave the area without wanting to patch up stuff.

Don't forget endangering his waifu and the best friend by talking to a guy he was specifically told not to interact with.

Aninews cut content show a lot of details that help understand the situations better

I agree, hence my issue with the fact that they did nothing about it. They weren't strangers, they had a bond cause Rudy saved her life, even Soldat encouraged him to go after her and explain. Yet, nothing came of it, not until Vol 18 or something

@@mahistv I guess that people are just imperfect and weak at facing there problems at the end of the day

first comment section ive seen where all of them are disagreeing with the video lmao

I am misinformed since I've not read the light novel. But I sill believe that this story of character development, shows very little of character development until the Ranoa arc

​@@mahistv If you genuinely believe that you weren't paying attention. The obvious first hurdle of Roxy getting him to touch grass aside, he went from being so traumatized from bullying he couldnt go outside to standing up for someone else getting bullied,from skipping school to teaching multiple people, and learned multiple languages (mostly)on his own. All of that happens BEFORE the demon continent. And when we get to the demon continent there's the second arguement with Paul, which explicitly parallels one of his regrets from his previous life. Media literacy is dead.

⁠@@ShotRagepeople have different interpretations of the story from you dumbas*

It has it. This people are just weird or woke etc

It's always been good idk what mahis is on about

I don't think it was, because for a show that is all about character development, it really didn't have much in the first season

@@mahistv the show isn’t only about rudues growing and getting stronger it’s about other stuff too and it’s a long story you can’t fit his whole development as a character in 1 season because we follow him since birth to an old man. And in season 1 he did learn and grow, example when he left his home with Roxy or when he helped sylphie etc. I think the ppl that didn’t like the show just didn’t like it because it’s ecchi

​@@Saiki-lp1inok thats pushing it. People said, Its always about character development, change doesnt happen in a single episode, thats why it took so long. Then it took 1 anime girl to invite rudy out of his home and his trauma is just gone?

Yea I thought he is going to be spoiled about S3 But no this mf just spoiled the fricking ending

I said Light Novel spoilers at the very beginning during the intro

@@mahistv It's not obvious that the spoilers are about later chapters. I would assume it's about parts of the LN, which are left out from the Anime at this point.

Or at least something

Nah, Lightnovel reader actually love the volume. If you actually read both medium, the extra content is a bonus cake from god. The hater are coming from people who don't want to read the Light novel version. They feel vol 7 is inconsequential, But if you actually read all the 26 light novel volumes, you will see all those characters reappeared again in the story, be the catalyst for changes in different characters. etc.... The things with Sarah became one of the "irreversible mistake" Rudy did, but the story also show you can move past it, developed a healthy friendship with her, albeit changed from what could have been.

I think it was redundant.

I'm pretty sure that was the point

If you had problems with it than your just a senseless person with an ego so fragile your unable to accept anything that is beyond your claustrophobic walls of comfort

It is, I just don't like where it's heading now

Sure, but why is it so inconsistent? Until the Ranoa he relapses every other episode, but once inside, he suddenly learned all the life lessons and doesn't go back at all?

@@mahistv I blame the writer on that part but many people would disagree or have their interpretation of character development happening offscreen or they would argue that he learned the life lessons through when Eris left him. And I just don't agree with that at all. There is such a giant dissonance between what happened and what characters have said point-blank vs "No, no this is what the characters actually felt and he is redeemed now so stop hating!". It is so frustrating with that and how the characters react or how the author treats certain characters that react appropriately to situations. The whole thing with Ars and his aunt is where I had to draw the line and I'm fucking done with this story. I was already close to dropping this because of what happened with Eris and Rudy.

Yeah, lol, people totally missed that I gave this show a 10/10 past Ranoa... I just don't like the several wives part.

This is totally fair, we don't have to agree, as long as we see where we are coming from

Yes, I can definitely understand him being scared to 1v1 a Sword Saint, but he didn't have to, there were other people fighting him but he decided to wait till they are all down!

You are correct

How she was there at that time

@@raghebyared8177 This happened after the teleportation incident, which means Sylphie was working for princess Ariel at the time. It's not too much of a stretch that Sauros execution would take place at the palace where Ariel and Sylphie are. But to be fair it's an anime original cameo appearance, one that's a little forced in my opinion.

I even defend the MC of YIIK :) I don't like the idea that characters should change at all. We don't expect bad guys to become good guys. So why do we expect MCs to be good guys or at least to become good guys? This is not a story about a character changing for the better. It's about a character who wants to live a better life. And he isn't that good at it at first, so sometimes he is stuck for years. And in cases where he doesn't want to change, I wonder why he should even want to change. Especially being a pervert is part of his personality. It's not something he wants to overcome. So why do people expect that? Because they view being a pervert as a bad thing, and he's the MC and should become a good person, and what I consider a good person includes not being a pervert.

I get your point about sometimes being misinformed, but I can't agree with your take on the panty scene. In NO context thats a good idea, and he 100% didn't do it for the sake of something better, as he specifically said "Sorry Ruijerd" and then proceeded not only put them on, but lick them from the inside. That is even more degenerate than in the first episode. Which brings me to what you said about Paul. It's exactly that, the whole point was to make his father justifiably mad, and for that, the author decided that Rudy didn't change in those 10 years and is still as bad, if not worse, as he was in the first episode.

I get your point about sometimes being misinformed, but I can't agree with your take on the panty scene. In NO context thats a good idea, and he 100% didn't do it for the sake of something better, as he specifically said "Sorry Ruijerd" and then proceeded not only put them on, but lick them from the inside. That is even more degenerate than in the first episode. Which brings me to what you said about Paul. It's exactly that, the whole point was to make his father justifiably mad, and for that, the author decided that Rudy didn't change in those 10 years and is still as bad, if not worse, as he was in the first episode.

@@mahistv Come on man, you can understand that the context of "he's trying to do something good" is about his attempt to save someone (even thou he didn't know the full context, he judges it as another case of kidnapping, since in that world it's a pretty common thing to happen) of course putting panties on the head is not a good idea it would just give a wrong impression, he knows that but as it was what he had there to hide his face, he did it anyway (maybe in the anime it wasn't made clear but really Rudeus had no options on what to use to hide his identity, he makes that very clear he even think in other options but he just didnt had) Of course you can argue him putting the shirt on, but the "out of option" is still a genuine thought he had on there as he was being pressured to show up. another, the context of him apologizing to ruijerd goes beyond what you made it seem in the comment there, he apologizes because he accidentally calls himself "ruijerd, dead end" out of habit, rudeus apologizes because he feared that the name from ruijerd would be associated with a vigilante wearing panties in the head, and he also adds "but I'm still saving someone". You keep bringing up misleading takes man about the panty licking is an anime thing.

@@whatamess8894 Yup, I also don't get why they added the panty licking. They often seemed to overemphasize sexual/pervert aspects in the anime.

I don't have the full picture of what happened after Ranoa, but that has nothing to do with what I had to say about the story prior to that

@@mahistv well your opinion prior to that is not what I am disagreeing but you mentioned a lot of stuff that happens in the future which you have no clear picture of... thats my issue your opinion of mt being a power fantasy is wrong and whoever read the actual books will agree with me and him living a happy life with his wifes are partially true and wrong at the same.. Mf has suffered enough for those happy moments

I accept that, yet as you said "any amount of change is proof of effort" and Rudy didn't have that for the most part. It was no dicernable changes and then boom, he is all figured out now. Also, if the show wanted to highlight the "relapsing" part, why don't we see any of that after he enrolls into Ranoa University? My problem is not necessarily the relapsing or r not learning, it's the ABRUPT shift in his behavior past the academy arc.

This is pretty much how I feel

I can accept that, if not for his sudden change past Ranoa. And some whacky inconsistencies with how he uses his powers

@@mahistv Fr, he just plateaus too early on in the story tbh

I assume you read the novels, so spoilers. 1. She never rejected Rudy 2. It also left a bitter taste in Rudy, but he was able to forgive her

I'd rather see some proper drama and character development

I agree that I'm less informed than the novel readers, yet when I see Rudy predicting a pot dropping for the sky as soon as he got the ability and later not using it to keep his colleges save out in the wild, I start to have questions. As for relapsing, I understand it where it's possible, especially with depression and such. But when he let the chicken-dude die after doing nothing and having a few conversations with Ruijerd about it, I expect him to be more proactive and not let a beastgirl get slaughtered arms-length away, the villagers being abducted/killed, Gyes getting injured an so on. He is still standing doing nothing. How am I supposed to believe any of his progress when it can just reverse itself on a whim? And don't get me started on polygamy, only a few places in the world have it and a great majority of the population will be lucky to have one faithful life-long spouse. Its already a stretch to have a pathetic useless creepy bum turn his life around, but to have him transform into "one of the strongest people in the world with 3 wives" is a definition of a power fantasy.

@@mahistv In today's world? Sure. At this point, maintaining a stable and happy relationship is a power fantasy for many in so-called developed countries. But historically it was far more wide-spread. Especially in places that didn't prioritize monogamy in their cultures. Incidentally, his 3 wives aren't from Milis and so polygyny won't cause anywhere near the amount of drama and jealousy we might expect. Especially since all 3 of them are more or less familiar with one another and are very aware of how important each one is to Rudeus. I don't think it's fair to imply he didn't earn his relationships by calling it a power fantasy. Particularly since Rudeus himself started out wanting to only commit to Sylph and no one else.

Rudeus could pick up on Gyes' thuum, he did it later just fine with Pursena. But at that point in time he didn't know about voice magic at all and that he must be wary of it. Plus he only recently got the Eye and wasn't yet in the habit of using it constantly.

@@Eleyvie he picked up on gyes movement sure, but he was largely unfamiliar with voice magic and so never recognize that he was being attacked with magic. Spending time in their Village and also picking up on voice magic as well (Albeit weaker) he became familiar with it which helped him with pursena.

The point is not his eye not working, it's the fact that he didn't even use then and in a bunch of other cases.

@@mahistv cases like.....?

@@mahistv Quite a few of those cases are "he actually did but anime didn't explicitly show it". Also keep in mind that Rudeus isn't a munchkin and keeping the eye active full-time is more difficult than checking an option in character interface. Because it's fucking distracting for a start to see double all the time. And it's not all positives either - it introduces weaknesses too, which a strong enough opponent can exploit. The anime did an immediate transition from Rudy's "can I beat you now, Ruijerd?" to Rudy's swollen face, but there was an entire practical lesson on eye's weaknesses and limitations there.

I agree with that. However, the show gave me two moments - Chicken-dude and a beast girl in the dungeon. In both cases Rudy looked like he learned that hesitation leads to people dying about him and that he should act when he can (as per his conversation with Ruijerd). Doesn't seem like it changed him much, which is what my problem is.

@@mahistv I do agree with that but his hesitation is also caused by the fact that he is only good with magic and it does take time to do a spell, that's why later on Rudeus uses certain spells other than his whole arsenal, for example; his stone cannon, it is used much more within the novel. Also with the hitagomi thing, the reason rudeus goes back to not trusting him is because of the effect hitagomi gives of, for rudeus it changes since he is not of this world, when others will always trust him.

Maybe I should and see if it changes anything

Then what is this show about? Episode one clearly says "I'm not wasting this second chance", which is a redemption if you ask me. Also, this show is about character development, yet Rudy severely lacks in it up to Ranaoa arc. It's not ups and downs because he is encountering different challenges, it's the opposite, he is taught the same lessons over and over, yet they don't stick at all, until they magically do in the University arc

@mahistv You don't have to read all this by the way. lol Thanks for your reply. And I forgot to say this in my original comment. I was going to go back and edit it. But I assumed not many people would see it. But I was going to say that your opinion is fine. Everyone can have their own opinions. And I get what your saying. Rudy does mention this is his second chance. And absolutely regrets a lot of the things he did or did not do. But the reason it's not about redemption to me and I've seen a lot of other people agree. Is who does Rudy need to redeem himself with? At most you can argue himself or the viewers. But second chances don't mean redemption. If he was an absolute saint a beloved person in his previous life but died of cancer at 10. He would probably also be like here is my second chance at life. Now Rudy is self aware he has made mistakes. This series is absolutely about change. People can change. But change is different then redemption in a few ways. I would say an early element of this story is possible about redemption. But I think people blow it out of perspective. They see Rudy how he is and expect a Ned Flanders or something by the end. First of all I still argue it's not really about redemption at all. But if we want to try to view it that way. If you seriously ask me. By the time Rudy gets back from the Demon Continent and Rujerd leaves? Can you name anything that Rudy truly needs to improve about himself? No. Even if he were to throw panties on his head again. Who cares? That's the kind of thing I think we should appreciate about Rudy not really want him to change in the first place. It's silly and dumb. Ultimately harmless. It's the more important things that matter. Like is Rudy a kind person? Is he a good person? Does he kill, steal murder, snap at people for no good reason. Bully the innocent, use his power or fame for evil or harm etc. Do a lot of people and most of all those who know him well fear or disrespect or want him dead etc etc? NO!!! (Not yelling at you or anything.) Almost everyone in and outside of the universe like us watching. And those in the universe. Generally believe Rudy is a good person and humble. Sure he can't read the room sometimes. lol But that's also not a feature needing to be redeemed etc. He can be smart or clueless depending on the situation and plot. But I don't want to get side tracked. That does not make him bad. In fact in heart warming way that's kind of endearing. He is quite trusting and usually sees the good in others. Because Rudy knows he has made mistakes too etc. Next when it comes to improving. You may not know this? But you can usually only be about as good as your society and the people around you. Rudy is a pretty stand up person pretty early on in the series. He actually goes back downhill after Eris leaves because of depression. Even while depressed Rudy for the most part is still a great guy. The things he did for Sara and her group etc. They loved Rudy for the most part and that's when he was a broken person. So Rudy at his lowest is still able to make most people around him care and not really hurt them. We also need to realize that the true Rudy. The person we should respect and root for is very perverted. That's not a flaw the writer or Rudy really strive or want to change. It's clear pretty early on. That's just him. Be better if he kept it more to himself and he kind of does. I think from fairly early on he keeps that in check. Again at least up to the standards of his society. People kind of learn to accept and even appreciate Rudy for who he is. The pervert he is. That's part of friends and family. You don't really see Rudy's friends, family or lovers asking him to change? It's because to them Rudy does not need to change or redeem himself. You can play a game name the people in the series up to this point who dislike Rudy? Very few even if you include the LN. So it's like if he is already probably kinder and smarter than most people in the society of Mushoku Tensei. He probably has more morals then most people we meet in the series. And if no one really dislikes him? It's very difficult for me to say that he really needs to improve at all. He might be pushing himself to hard by the University Arc. Like I said I believe by the point just before Eris leaves. By that point in the series most people who interact with Rudy for a bit have pretty high impressions. The most important thing to remember for all the weirdos on twitter complaining about Rudy etc. I don't think your going that far? I've seen really weird haters. Basically want Rudy to die.. that's the only redemption they would accept. First of all nearly nothing would satisfy them. Second of all do you know how unhealthy it is to not forgive yourself and kind of accept who we/you are. That's also an element within this story. Forgiveness, self forgiveness. If you can't allow yourself to move on from a mistake then what kind of life is that. Very unhealthy. That applies to Rudy too. If hes not hurting people and is living up to at a bare minimum the social construct and morality of the world he lives in. I don't really find to many flaws in Rudy. If this were a redemption story he's already well redeemed. Again who the hell is he redeeming himself too? He seemed like a pretty great person from even early season 1. Take Eris... you saw how she was... a complete mess. Likely doomed to be a concubine and unable to ready, write and all that. Hurting or killing people who get in her way. A bratty child who honestly needed redemption more than Rudy by the time you meet her. In a few years Rudy gave her a future. Just imagine how her parents likely felt about Rudy. This boy comes along and completely changes her for the better. Gives their daughter a life. A future. If you grabbed 100 random people from our world and put them in his shoes... I would expect more than half would have failed to earn Eris's respect. Teach her about life. Not to depend on her fathers money. To do and ask for things herself etc. To learn to dance and so much more. By that point in his new life he was already doing amazing. This was when I would argue Rudy was at his absolute worst. The early Eris stuff. So you mean to tell me Rudy at his absolute worst in terms of showing off some of his most flawed traits and acting on them in some not so good ways. Was still able to cause an entire noble family to love and respect him and to give a future to a hopeless child. Yes some of the worst things Rudy has done in MT involved Eris. I don't mean sleeping with her later. I think that was actually fine. Given the circumstances it was not the best moment for it. But I do not blame either of them. However the Eris on the hay bale moment and the first scene with her in bedroom... those are pretty bad. The hay bale moment was much worse. It might be the worst act Rudy commits in the series. It's not like Rudy never does anything remotely like it again but context matters. He obviously has redeemed himself to Eris and her family for any of those actions. Within the confines of the MT world he may not have even done anything wrong. In fact Eris's father offered to tie Eris up for Rudy. That mere comment from Philip which I believe was mostly a true offer. Probably surpasses any negative thing Rudy is capable of or has done. Imagine Rudy offering Norn to be tied up for someone else. I would probably stop reading/watching. Which basically means in a sick way if Rudy wanted too he could have been an absolute sick fuck if he took Phillip up on his offer. But he takes the high route and does the right thing over and over again. And occasionally he stumbles. That's in a lot of cases life itself. Even if you want to call this about redemption I argue he has already redeemed himself. He has flaws and some of those are just how Rudy is... people smoke, gamble, drink... Have sex before marriage. One person life style is someone elses horror or blaspheme. If you can't name someone Rudy has harmed who has not either forgiven him completely or was never actually hurt in the first place? Then why do we care? In all honesty we should not care. I don't think the story is about that. If it was we would have the Eris inner mologue or point of view chapter pointing out the things that Rudy has done that have left her traumatized or what she hates about the man she loves? Or pointing out how he has changed for the better!? You don't get that in this story. When you do like when it's Norn reflecting on it etc. It's actually more about understanding how or why she was wrong or misunderstanding as a child etc. No one is saying Rudy is not perfect or can't change. But this story is not told or driven in a redemption type narrative. As for self improvement that's in many cases a life long thing. It's why we have new years resolutions and all that. It's part of will power and what I mentioned earlier about like bad habits etc. Ah... Ups and downs and learning from mistakes. Difference between like someone who likes to drink and a alcoholic etc. Someone who watches porn or is addicted to it. Okay I've ranted and rambled. I don't know if what I am trying to say is coming across or not. And it's not just be. I've seen some big reaction channels and thousands of comments of people who understand this is not a redemption story. Not if you think being perverted etc Is part of that equation. Rudy is Rudy. The plot shows you that people appreciate him the way he is. That is healthy. If they had a problem with it they could leave or tell him off. They don't because they genuinely aren't bother by it. Because it's not actually a flaw. Not to them.

@@MrArrmageddonI agree with everything you said people don’t just get better the slip and twist and even fall sometimes but that doesn’t make you a bad person it just makes you human and in Rudy’s case he’s just a flawed individual who is basically still mentally 15 because he wasn’t able to mentally mature even as his real body did. Rudy only becomes so mature in the Ranaoa arc because he actually changes as a character! No hate towards Mahis btw your an incredible creator I just don’t agree with you on this one👍

I didn't mention any of that (except when I said I like everything but the MC) because it wasn't the point of the video. I didn't see this phenomenal character development, on the count of it being thrown out the window every other episode, until we got to Ranoa. Take Rudy's morale. He has been through so many deep and important conversations with Ruijerd, where Rudy often had moral high ground or encouraged it (not letting him kill people for little things for example), yet when he sees a beastgirl getting brutally murdered right in front of him, making him visibly unsettled, but does nothing about it, nor is affected by it in any way. Where is this highly praised character development? He lets the chicken-dude die, then the beastgirl, then villagers, Gyes gets injured and so on, while he is standing there doing nothing. What was the point of Ruijert lashing out at him for not letting him save the guy in the forest? Why did we have Rudy processing all it? To then see it happen over and over again, aparently.

Maybe I should also "read" LotR. It probably only has around a tenth of the text to read, so I'll finish it in basically no time in comparison :) I kind of doubt it has better writing. A while ago I read the first sentence of that book in some writing forum, and people praised this sentence, and I didn't now it and thought it's just weird. I guess it tries to be more poetic. I prefer when it's more to the point, and that's what I liked about MT. Almost nothing felt unneccessary despite it's length.

Spoilers for Eris, Forgiveness is one of the main themes of the story. Most of the characters at some point involve it. TL;DR, She isn't forgiven until certain things go down. Eris isn't forgiven until Rudeus learns what happens to them in the future diary and when she later joins him on his rematch with Orsted. Originally, he hates her all the way up until she dies. With that in mind, it's reasonable for Rudy to forgive her. He realizes that he's partly at fault and after everything she does for him in the doom timeline and the current, he lets it go cause he still loved her.

I agree, even though I did some research afterwards on what happened, I still think this was a wrong direction to take, given that Mushoku Tensei WASN'T supposed to be an isekai harem power fantasy. Regardless of the way he got there, this ruins the message in my opinion and is fundamentally no different that any other isekai of this genre, if we don't take elaborate plot into the account.

@@mahistv TBF, it was always a harem power fantasy. All three girls are introduced in the first 2 volumes and all are foreshadowed to get together throughout. Rudy talking back to his unreasonable father and winning the argument, saint tier water mage by five, and saving the bullied childhood friend are all power fantasy in just the first volume. What it does well(and where your confusion on it not being a harem power fantasy I assume begins) is that he's one of the better written ones out there, there is plenty of world building and devotion to interesting side characters, and he isn't flawless or unbeatable. It balances the power fantasy with the actual story to the point of tricking people like you, who probably find it generic just for having a harem, into liking it. IMO, you are misinterpreting the message. Which to be fair to you, by the end of this season's arc we'll start to really get into. Forgiveness/redemption of yourself and others for past mistakes is the main point of the story. Forgiving Eris was the right move, the logical result of Rudeus's reconciliation with his past life, and only adds to it. Half of your video complained about Rudeus relapsing on his mistakes/not learning from them fast enough. It would be going backwards character development wise for him to turn his back on Eris again after everything he's learned and gone through.

Agreed, though I have nothing against an occasional relapse, you can't do it for every event, nor just drop this plotline all of a sudden (past Ranoa) and expect me not to notice

I simply don't like that, as it goes against MY view of the show

Thank you, I appreciate it

I never forgot that Rudy was in his 40s for the most part of the show)

De echo si

Factually incorrect statement, as I made plenty videos explaining intricacies of other shows and Isekais specifically (Overlord, ReZero). As for Rudy's development "he goes up and down all the time just like a real guy would", I can't relate, because I actually learn the lessons life teaches me and those are nowhere near as extreme as what he goes through. Just think about it, he has no real experience in life, but he sees people dying in front of him, sometimes because of him, he gets involved into world-ending events and that has little effect on him? He wasn't even that affected by almost getting killed on several occasions, so if we compare him to a "real guy", why don't we say that it was pretty unrealistic?

@@mahistv for a guy in his situation, also early Rudy is pretty much an escapist douche, dude thinks he is in a videogame, he is so enveloped in this thoughts that things dont affect him nearly as much, If you want proof compare how Rudy is portrayed in season 1 and season 2, youll find that S1 Rudy is pretty much as emotional as a potato, he always is like this: 🙂 very Cynical, now S2 Rudy is way more emotional than that, he is alowing himself to feel conected to this world and its people, he becomes more emphatetic, Also one thing to note is that Rudeus as character is very weak emotionally, He is not going to be cured from depression just because he decided to comfront his problems this time, dude is depressed as fuck still, regardless of that scene. One thing i have to admit is that most of your points are Either missconceptions or oversimplifocations, but that is more a problem for the anime itself, im talking from the POV of a LN reader.

This is a weak mindset to have. I'm here to talk about the show, not whether to watch it or not

@@mahistv Again, enough for what? Can you be a little more coherent with your logic or is that too much to ask?

That's right, volume 7 is a lightnovel original volume. Most of the rest of the story is a polished version of the webnovel with some added/changed scenes here and there.

It was but he didnt forget it pal, dude in the video missed analysed the story enteirly

This video is centered about the lack of character development up to Ranoa arc, which that arc highlights.

I haven't talked about any of that in this video. My point is that I find this writing very hard to believe, because there is a big disconnect between what it tells me and how the characters actually act. Take my example with the eye of foresight. There is no way he'd say "I couldn't see the dragon", when he was able to see a clay pot coming out of nowhere to hit Cleaner right after he got the ability.

Thank you for the insight and don't be sorry for a wall of text, we are here to talk afterall. I'm surprised I didn't pick up on some things you've mentioned and I totally agree that I had a certain vision, which ended up not being the case. BUTT. I do in fact see Rudy's development and the only issue I have is it's inconsistent speed - in the first season, there is hardly any progress given the amount of events that transpired, and in Ranoa, he looks like all of those lessons were learned all of a sudden. As for 15:58 moment, that was supposed to be sarcasm and I even showed moments that I though were the most interesting (His cellmate being an apostle of Hitogami and Pax's return/revolt/coup). It's strange you think I don't like unrelated stuff, when I specifically said "I like Mushoku Tensei more when Rudy was not in it" :) I will make an Overlord video for sure, cant wait for the Holy Kingdom.

This comment actualy has manners.

Yes, but he can steamroll 99%of everyone he encountered past Demon Eye acquisition

@@mahistv more than that probably, but I think only a few percent of this world's population have any real combat experience.

Yes, but Rudy had gone through MANY lessons over a decade and barely changed at all. And it wasn't just a slap on the wrist, it was death, pain and misery, for a guy who spend most of his life sitting at home, each of these situations he is getting into must be world-breaking, yet he seems to be completely unaffected long-term (up to Ranoa arc). Unresolved means nothing came out of it, no life-lesson, no closure. The only reason she was there for is to get the ED arc going, which I think is strange, because there is no way Rudy of all people, didn't try to rub one out or otherwise didn't realize his situation, given that he gets aroused pretty quickly. And I did put a caption saying that "getting results 10 volumes later" doesn't count, because at that point she is irrelevant to the story. I don't like it, because it a cheap, boring way to conclude their character stories. Not to mention it ruins the message I though Mushoku Tensei is preaching.

@@mahistv I think there is something to be said for complacency though. Most of the S1 content took place over years. When we see different moments they are separated by time. Rudy can experience something tough, but go weeks, months, even years out from that and you will drop your guard. As for Sara I'd disagree, I think a major point of her existence ties in with the harem thing in that things don't always work out. As for the rest of the harem aspect its fine to like or not like it, but I don't see it as cheap. At least with Roxy her inclusion served a specific purpose tying in with Paul's actions from the start of the series. Narratively with how V12 went it just makes perfect sense. Perhaps in the case of Eris things may have gone a bit too easy, but in the end their split was a misunderstanding. They had a real bond, unlike with Sara where it'd be completely illogical if Rudy had got with her. For a harem MT has a very grounded approach to it.

I believe I do. It's a story of second chances, with a person changing from an aimless bum, into an upstanding member of society.

hey genius, you put the spoilert alert before the spoiler if you write in a language that is read like that, i already knew but i would have eaten it otherwise

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I know, and if you paid attention I dropped a few hint about it in the video.

I don't think so, hence the video

It do be like that sometimes, I signed up for this when I started a RU-vid channel, so it's not entirely unexpected. "Well written moments, but with a bit of a difficulty getting from one of these moments to another". I can't believe I didn't think of putting it like that, because it's how I feel too. However, I didn't see that much development for Rudy during the first season. Yes, he had some improvements, but the lessons learned/failed ratio is heavily in favor of "I didn't learn anything". I think we both should give Light Novel a shot

@@mahistv That's fair, I guess it just didn't bother me that much since I already went in with low expectations thinking it was just a power fantasy isekai with good animation, only for Rudy's growth to surprise me (finding out that was a main focus of the show made so happy you have no idea). I can definitely see your point tho, seeing the comments made me think you were just mindlessly trashing the show, but you articulated your problems with it very well and they are all fair points. Maybe you're right and we should give the LN a shot, but usually I prefer waiting for the anime to end to read the original material since I'm more of an anime gal. Maybe I'll read up to where the anime is and see what got changed in the adaptation.

Yeah, the commenters having a field day this time. Glad we agree on something though)

Ugh, okay, I have one thing to say after watching the video after all: Please do not hate on parts of Mushoku Tensei so far ahead in the novel that you couldn't possibly have any idea of how things turned out the way they did. It's cool, it's all your opinion... until you talk about later events, including the end of the series as if you can imagine how things get to where they are, that's impossible.

Even the part where Rudy says he can't see stuff while possesing an eye of foresight?

@@mahistv Especially that part ;)

Not sure how this relates to DS... but I can't wait to tear it apart if it's not good (just like I usually do)

@@mahistv I meant like, video to manage while Demon Slayer Season 4 isn’t dead is all

Looks like I need to really read the light novel, because every other source of info is severely screwed and doesn't come close to the original.

It doesn't help that the anime doubles down on the ecchi jokes. Don't get me wrong there are even more in the novels then in the anime, but a lot of those are actual jokes instead of playing Rudy being a little creep for laughs. My most hated example of anime only ecchi joke was Rudy sniffing and licking the panties he wore to hide his face in Millishion. He didn't do that in the novel, he wore them because he didn't want his face seen by what he assumed to be a criminal organization and it's a shimoneta reference on top of that. There was no need to change things. An example of an actual joke would be when after he and Paul made up with each other, at some point Paul says to Vierra and Shierra, isn't my son impressive. And Rudy responds saying, you can't just talk about your son (occasionally used to refer to your junk, at least in Japanese) in public like that. It's a silly little joke, but it's right up Paul and Rudy's alley. Then there are some jokes that don't land because of the different medium, like in the Beastfolk village. His whole gag routine about the free apartment works better without the visuals spoiling the joke. Then there is Rudy peeping on Eris and Minetona in a barrel. In the novels Gyes walks up to him starts a whole conversation thanking him for everything he's done for the village and suddenly he ends the conversation with, now get out of that barrel I don't want you peeping on my daughter. The joke is how out of nowhere that line is in what we assumed was a perfectly normal conversation, but with the addition of visuals that part of the joke is gone and the only joke left is Rudy being a creepy little shit. Anyway if anyone read all that, thanks I guess. If you can read a rant like this do give the novels a try. It's by far the best version of the story IMO, don't read the manga though, it's a shitty adaptation.

It won't change half of my points, because I'm talking about what happened before

Where did I say it wasn't? I was just voicing my complaints with how they handled the MC's character development and how it went against MY expectations.

No, but that doesn't change much of criticism before Ranoa and I still don't like the end result, regardless of the way we got there.

Why do you think I don't like it, when I specifically say which parts I enjoy (which are most), which I enjoy less (Rudy early on) and that I hate the fact that it went from a proper isekai into a power fantasy. I want this show to succeed way more than you realize

​@@mahistv "Great" sometimes isn't equal to "for everyone" the show is good as it is and does not need to change.

@@mahistv It was a power fantasy from the beginning. He learned voiceless magic at an age of 4. And he has a manapool greater than Laplace since around then.

People do have relapses, but what I'm seeing here is not a relapse, it's straight up ignoring what happened before. Take him standing doing nothing while people around him die. Chicken-dude was a genuine mistake, the rest were all calculated decisions, since he knew for the fact that his inaction costs lives. Don't let me hear "of course we will save them", "Ruijerd, you shouldn't kill people willy-nilly", other high morality talk and then show Rudy letting a beastgirl get brutally murdered in front of him and it not affecting him whatsoever. Yes, I haven't read the novels, but knowing how something happened, doesn't change the fact that I dislike the result. In my opinion, it undermines the message of the show. Also, this is totally a power fantasy as Rudy at this point is stronger than 99% of people he encountered and by the end becomes one of the strongest in the world. Don't forget that he has Laplace Factor and Eye of Foresight, which is an absolutely broken combination, in addition to everything he learned/achieved.

@@mahistv Your answer clearly indicate what I've said: you don't know how humans work. Humans can make one step in one direction then two steps back. Visibly you can't grasp that. 🤷‍♂️ Too bad because Rudeus is written with being a more realistic human then your average shonen MC. And for the rest, as i've said: you haven't read the novel and you clearly don't know how things turned out. And no, merely reading Wikipedia is not enough to grasp the essence of Mushoku Tensei. You base your opinion on something you clearly don't know. A lot a people see that your opinion is off because of your ignorance of the subject.

​@@mahistv I also don't get what's the problem with Rudy ignoring the Beast girl being killed. He is just on his way to Ruijerd. If he plays hero now, this might have bad consequcences. Maybe more people would die, maybe he couldn't free Ruijerd, maybe he would die himself. Also he doesn't care if people die. He doesn't want to kill people, but it's not part of his core moral system. The reason, why Ruijerd shouldn't kill people was a more pragmatic one. He wanted to improve his reputation. That's all.

Yes, because this show is about character development last time I checked

@@mahistv growing is hard

You see no development whatsoever from the fat shut-in that blamed his fear of the outside world to justify not attending his parents funeral to the Rudy that cares about his family and friends? If it's not the change you wanted to see, that's one thing, but surely you can agree he did change as a person.

I don't mind that part actually. Paul is not that good of a person and he finally had someone to target all his frustration towards. Remember, Rudy didn't make it sound like he struggled that much, so he was kinda justified based on the info he had at the time, not to mention that it was 100% Rudy's fault for not thinking about the rest of his family. I do however agree that the character development is inconsistent, which is my major complaint about the show.

​@@lucasvanwijngaarden670no. Youre confusing yourself with rudeus before he was reborn and after. Theyre 2 different people. One didnt hesitate to see his family member in sexual way, and one does like when he doesn't feel horny towards his mom. He didnt change, the world did, the world accommodate him with everything he need. Super power, harem, and everyone thinking rudeus is right. Remember when rudeus talk to his mom after his father affair about he didnt know whats wrong that make the family down, the proceeds to tell her his father raped the maid? And no one find that weird? and many other examples in later part.

​@@mahistvyeah i think its just a shame that powerful moment didnt propel towards his growth moment. Yeah, i dont know if its because the community or the show. Iam biased but if the show stops telling me its about character growths and just a shounen power fantasy maybe i can enjoy it to some degree because theres some point that i like, like the magic and combat rule, the way they arent afraid to bring dark and heavy topics. But at the end i felt the execution was lacking. Felt like they dont know if they want to go to shounen fantasy genre or something deeper for example like BMHA just go towards shounen and i think thats better than this ....or maybe thats how some people just like it maybe i just dont understand

No, not even close. Black Clover is in a league of it's own. Also. Have you seen the logo of the channel? Also x2. Don't confuse MAD with PASSION. All my videos have it

I only hate Black Clover. But seriously, how is my point of Rudy saying "he can't see" while posessing an eye of foresight incorrect, when the first time he used it was the same exact situation? Or that he had barely any character development in season 1? There is little difference between Rudy from ep 1 and ep 19, yet they are 13 or so years apart.

@mahistv maybe the term hater was a bit too much, but I stand by the rest. Incoming wall of text because it takes a bit of explaining. 1. The eye of foresight does not work like that. Rudeus can only see 2 second into the future or else the paths branch out too much. On top of that, he needs to have a clear target to use it on. There is actually a whole nother demon eye that serves the purpose of improving vision. Rudeus is almost constantly using his demon eye when he is in dangerous situations. 2. His growth. Rudeus grew tremeously, both as a person and in terms of power. The only reason it's looks like he is weak is because all of his opponents have been swordsmen. The series has made it quite clear that swordsmen are superior to mages in most situations. Mages normally can't even put up a fight in close quarters, but he manages to do so by using shockswaves and other spells to increase his movement.

The school arc is defenitely the slowest arc in the series, other than maybe the opening arc. Next episode is turning point 3, so as you can imagine we're about to get back to action again.

Looking forward to it, if that's correct. I LOVE the school arc

@@mahistv Actually I should probably be a little more specific, the Fits arc specifically is what I meant, which would be volumes 8 and 9 of the LN. Volume 10 which, was the start of this season, is pretty well received and volumes 11 and 12, which is from the sister returning and to the end of the season, are some of the most beloved volumes in the entire series. P.S.: Much respect for the way you are responding to all the critical comments. We MT fans can get a bit heated trying to defend the show, I think it's a result of having been called the worst imaginable things for liking the show. So thank you for not being one of those people.

​@@lucasvanwijngaarden670 At least compared to the books the school Arc is rushed. Normally they put around 2 chapters per episode, but in the Fitts/School arc, they put 4 in one episode once (which is the craziest episode and I love it)

And here I was saying that Mushoku Tensei should be a complete opposite of Solo Leveling, but turned out similar in many ways

Fetish bait?...wtf

@@jawarafrazer8530 maybe not the best choice of words. But at the start all the degenerate crap was bearable because it felt like the story was going somewhere by building up one of the biggest scumbags in anime. Now its clear they are purely pandering to degenerates and* just doing w.e

@@jawarafrazer8530 youtube deleted my reply, don't care to retype

@@morioh6623 ok

I don't see a fetish bait at all

No, I wanted the opposite. Someone with flaws that they are overcoming thanks to the immense amount of challenges and obstacles. I only saw a one-dimensional pervert, who is OP by every definition, straight out of an average harem isekai up until Ranoa Magic Academy.

Telling me you disagree with me is not "hating", it's "normal". I hope more people realize it. Also, did you totally miss that I called this anime a 10/10 past Ranoa? Sometimes I wonder if my English is really this bad...

I'm happy somebody does see my points...

It actually gotten great after ep 4

Maybe I will one day, but as a customer can judge a steak made by a chef, I can give my opinion about this show. Maybe some things will be explained later, but for now, I see that Rudy has barely any meaningful development until Ranoa and then transforms into a completely different character, who all of a sudden, learned all those lessons.

I guess

Which is a shame, because I though Mushoku Tensei isn't one

​@@mahistv I can see everyone's point about it being a story about second chances and growing, but all the other parts are such a big turnoff for me. If you want a good story about second chances that is still set in a fantasy world, Frieren would be a much better pick. This may seem like just "hopping on the bandwagon," but with a show that is so objectively good, it doesn't take much to agree with the bandwagoneers. Lol