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Music Technology almost ruined my music 

Jameson Nathan Jones
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I think most of us can relate to creating a sequence or loop we really like, then proceeding to listen to it over and over with no idea where to go next. While this is often blamed on writer's block, I actually don't think that's to blame. Today I'll talk about some really old composition techniques that helped get me out of the 4-bar rut.
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Комментарии : 794   
@Veridi
@Veridi Год назад
Writing a 16 bar chord progression was the best thing I ever did in my life.
@jontyson5407
@jontyson5407 Год назад
You clearly have no life.
@bobsmith12345
@bobsmith12345 Год назад
it's so satisfying because it gets easier :) keep going guys
@snubdawg1386
@snubdawg1386 Год назад
i got scaler 2 for quick and nice chord progressions......listened to all 200+ chord presets and there is not one progession with 5+ different chords that i like
@gatorgoforth3097
@gatorgoforth3097 Год назад
@@snubdawg1386 go to the channel Musician Paradise he has free chord progressions for a free chord app called Rip Chord amazing progressions in various genres. Also works for the MPC Live.
@Veridi
@Veridi Год назад
@@snubdawg1386 You know I'm gonna say do it yourself ;)
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan Год назад
I have a bunch of techniques to escape loop hell: - Improvise on top of the whole song and keep/improve parts that fit! - Hum melodies on top of the whole song! - Mix patterns with various lengths! Don't avoid odd lengths! They'll simply loop over a longer time. - Stand up and move to the beat while working! This one probably makes the biggest difference.
@kunaikai
@kunaikai Год назад
Thank you. Just took a screenshot of this
@macronencer
@macronencer Год назад
Great tips, thank you! The one about humming over the top of a WIP is something I do constantly. Melodies that are lyrical and singable are not always the goal, but when they are, this is a really useful way to develop them.
@Cegros
@Cegros Год назад
Excellent excellent :) thanks
@TayWoode
@TayWoode Год назад
Absolutely yes! I sometimes take a break and do something else and then a random variation comes into my head & I quickly get that down sometimes even replacing my original idea
@keithbutler2222
@keithbutler2222 Год назад
The humming sounds like a Keith Jarrett influence 🙂
@arcopolarismusic
@arcopolarismusic 9 месяцев назад
Thank you. I am a 73 years old amateur composer (I started when I was 64) and this video has helped me enormousley. Especially your notion of using improvisation as a mining expedition. Many thanks and greetings from Finland.👍👍👍
@mechanought3495
@mechanought3495 Год назад
As a musician who has spent the last 15 years or so languishing in the 4-8 bar loop hell, thank you for trying to save others from this creative purgatory.
@applebutter4036
@applebutter4036 Год назад
Same. Almost exactly 15 years ago, I bought FL Studio (aka Fruityloops)and began slowly filling up folders with 4-8 bar "songs". Some I kinda liked and attempted to stretch into actual songs, but most were abandoned. My theory was that it just got too easy to make loops. You spend 45 minutes kinda jammin out and it comes together so easily, that the next step of stretching it out feels more like work than fun. I think it also hurts that the very nature of a loop is that it resolves back into itself and doesn't always have a logical place to go. Back in the day, when I was recording stuff on a 4 track, you had to do the hard work up front and have the overall outline of the song somewhat fleshed out. You could easily spend hours working on a song before ever recording anything.
@maxrice6990
@maxrice6990 Год назад
@@applebutter4036 That's an interesting point. I wonder if there is an opportunity out there for a software developer to create a tool that makes the "stretching it out" portion of the composing more fun
@applebutter4036
@applebutter4036 Год назад
​@@maxrice6990 Could be and I love the idea. It doesn't even have to be fun. Maybe just a tool with a handful of parameters that can instantly lay out whatever patterns/samples you have into a basic song structure.
@hermestrismegistus3417
@hermestrismegistus3417 Год назад
Don’t feel bad brother, you’re not alone, actually most of us are down here.
@annode
@annode Год назад
@@applebutter4036 All good points. It might also be that people who get lost in loops and seqs don't play an instrument. Pop music these days avoid middle eights/choruses/bridges, as we all know. I think because it's even hard to do for the pros let alone non-players.
@crewd00d
@crewd00d Год назад
I am a classically trained bassoonist, and a jazz saxophone player, along with guitar for fun and various other hobby instruments. Got my bachelor's degree in music 9 years ago and have found myself stuck in the 4-bar loop rut for years inside my DAW. Recently I've made it a point to map out, at least roughly, the different elements of a track before fully fleshing out the "drop" or the "chorus", etc. I have this horrible tendency to start with the main part of the song and then scrutinize every little minute detail of those 4-16 bars until I'm sick of hearing it and realize I don't have a song nor a vision for one anymore.
@vitaviscera
@vitaviscera 4 месяца назад
that piano example was amazing
@Beatsbasteln
@Beatsbasteln Год назад
my advice for people who can't escape the loop would be: don't be scared of something that doesn't immediatly sound great. just sketch out all of your ideas and refine them when the time has come. you'll notice when that is
@crow4277
@crow4277 Год назад
you are everywhere!! love your content, its cool to see you around
@Beatsbasteln
@Beatsbasteln Год назад
thank you :)
@DANAMIONLINE
@DANAMIONLINE 9 месяцев назад
I've found this helpful to me. Music technology allows me musical vomit on the DAW and then clean up later. The action of creating and refining is different brain functions that work better individually.
@noahshighlightreel
@noahshighlightreel 29 дней назад
YES YES A MILLION TIMES YES. This is life saving advice.
@joshorganika
@joshorganika Год назад
that introduction was the most relatable thing i've heard in my 6 yrs of producing stuff
@bananerna2601
@bananerna2601 Год назад
I've been writing music professionally for almost 20 years and my number one tip is to use anything you just come up with. My (in my opinion) best music comes from singing random stuff when I do something completely unrelated like cleaning, making food, walking the dog etc. Just record it on your phone, even if it's stupid. And then visualize (if you can) in your head how the drums go, how the bass line works with the beat and add stuff from there. Don't rush it though, because often you keep getting stuck. Make sure you have at least a line for a chorus or a verse and usually everything just falls into place. One of my songs landed on the Japanese billboard and it started out with the line (translated from Swedish to English) "your parents are brilliant at convincing you that they loved you while you were wearing bracers".
@JayM928
@JayM928 Год назад
That is a good tip. I started doing this recently, and it helped a lot. I’d come up with a good idea (for me) in the car or somewhere random and just started recording myself humming it out it different ways, as if it was just any song stuck in my head. It took me a while to realize that an idea I had might be fleeting and never come to me again. The practice of simply recording when inspired really kept a lot of creative doors open that previously were lost to forgetfulness. Unfortunately, many of my potentially best ideas happen in places like the shower where I haven’t yet figured out how to record effectively before I towel off and lose it!
@philbertius
@philbertius Год назад
@@JayM928 Waterproof phone 😉
@andrewpalmer8303
@andrewpalmer8303 Год назад
As an amateur music creator, who still has a lot to learn with my instrumental skills and production, this video has been incredibly helpful. It’s easy to get lost in production and forget about the direction I’m trying to go in, and this video really inspired me at a low point 🙏
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
Thank you! Glad it was helpful :)
@Okinoth
@Okinoth Год назад
I learned how to make music on youtube via FL Studio tutorials starting 15 years ago. This is one of the first videos regarding music I have watched in many years that didn't feel introductory or shallow. You didn't insult the viewers intelligence and you recognize that different musicians approach things in different ways. You introduce a concept via narration and then immediately perform a demonstration to communicate with musicians who lack the composition vocabulary to engage with the spoken content. You didnt flex gear or name drop or grandstand. You'd think I would love music youtube considering my background but beyond a certain level of music experience finding engaging content becomes near impossible. Im glad I stumbled into this video! Subbed! i rlly look forward to what you post next
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
I appreciate that! 🙏
@amunyemme
@amunyemme Год назад
top tier feedback we need more if you
@mirr1984
@mirr1984 Год назад
I got stuck in the 4 bar loop for years and still do at times, but I've found that improving my understanding of music theory and working from the perspective of arrangement has helped break out of that habit. I will basically take a synthesizer vst (or a piano vst) and create a song in MIDI before doing anything else. So if I don't have a song that has a beginning, middle, and end then it's either keep trying to scrap it and start again. The hardest part is creating a melody and harmony that either leads into a chorus (or drop) or creating a melody and harmony that takes you out of the chorus (or drop). So now I try to think in a linear fashion from start to finish focusing on melody and harmony instead of thinking in terms of depth and creating a 4 bar loop with tons of layers and a repetitive melody or chord progression. The problem with the world of electronic music is people tend to learn about EQ and Compression before they learn about actual music - rhythm, harmony, melody, counter-melody etc. I made that mistake and now I'm really good at mixing but suck at creating actual interesting music.
@Eazy-V
@Eazy-V Год назад
And there's me : Making random stuff, experimenting where I want to, saving useless projects... But I still manage to find new things. Takes time but I'll make my way out the cosmos
@TheBeatMechanic
@TheBeatMechanic Год назад
Trap and Hip Hop Producer here. Who is also a classical pianist from a young age. And this is exactly what I needed right now.
@OurgasmComrade
@OurgasmComrade Год назад
This concept of "question and answer" structuring is also called "binary structuring" and "periods." It's the cornerstone of great songwriting and I learned a lot of valuable information from the book "How Music Really Works" by Wayne Chase
@pthelo
@pthelo Год назад
"It's that idea about giving someone a fish vs teaching them how to make their own fish idea" LOL. Amazing. Not only did you provide lots of fantastic musical inspiration and direction, but the dry jokes were on point. Thank you Jameson!
@fallprecauxionsmusic
@fallprecauxionsmusic Год назад
yes!! I completely agree!! tell that to whoever it was, a few weeks back, who couldn't resist taking a sincere dig at doctor jones's jokes as he complimented the over all content of his vids. ("you call him doctor jones, lady!!")
@andrew_nayes
@andrew_nayes Год назад
Yes, please more content about composition. Very interesting to understand how a classically trained pianist compose electronic music.
@michaelkonomos
@michaelkonomos Год назад
Okay, rewatching this one already. It's fantastic. It fulfills a real gap in the synth community - addressing composition, not from a purely musical theory boring approach, but in the sense of taking an idea from an initial strong loop or segment and actually taking it that next step. No one is really talking about this, but it's what makes something like your track "Could" so great. It's not just a nice repeated jam where you open and close the filter on your synth. You actually composed something. The biggest obstacle - this is work. Most of us have day jobs, use synths to relax. And yet if we really want to express ourselves, we have to do this work. Do you find it to be effortful as well, or does the composition process also feel as playful as the initial idea? Do we just have to grind our way through it or is there a way to breathe excitement into it? Can't wait to see where you go with this.
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
Thanks Michael! It’s definitely work - just like any discipline that’s really worth doing, but it does become easier to generate stronger ideas the more you do it. The more practice you’ve put in, the more tools you have in your toolbox. There’s no ceiling on learning though, so when you get better I certain areas, new challenges reveal themselves. My advice would be to not get frustrated that it’s difficult, but to enjoy the process as you get better at certain things. You can enjoy the cool things you come up with while also realizing there’s always room for growth.
@michaelkonomos
@michaelkonomos Год назад
@@JamesonNathanJones Great advice! Thank you.
@smguy7
@smguy7 Год назад
I have a day job, too, and working on music is my time to relax and set my mind - or what is left of it! - free.
@terryriley6410
@terryriley6410 Год назад
If it's work for you without fun, just find another hobby or be contempt with opening and closing filters on a synth, alternatively reevaluate what you consider fun and practice enjoying activities with delayed rewards.
@michaelkonomos
@michaelkonomos Год назад
@@terryriley6410 I was specifically talking about the composition aspect. Go back and reread my comment, and what I said about being willing to embrace that. It seems you misunderstood.
@MentalCake
@MentalCake Год назад
Totally agree. Too many options tear your music apart. It stops to be musical, it starts to be more technical and leads you to nowhere. Eventually I return to a pencil, a paper and piano sound.
@alexfletcher9915
@alexfletcher9915 Год назад
A crutch when used correctly at the appropriate time of need is actually a pretty useful tool. Jokes aside another stellar vid with lots of thoughtful info.
@gatergates8813
@gatergates8813 Год назад
The problem is when someone with otherwise healthy legs uses a crutch so much that their legs atrophy
@acid-mask
@acid-mask Год назад
The computer is it’s own class of instrument. The best producers play the DAW instead of “playing in the DAW”
@tooprotimmy
@tooprotimmy Год назад
Such a good channel. You have a breadth of knowledge. Please don't sacrifice that quality for views! Only reason I say that is because other RU-vidrs have done that! Protect this man at all costs!
@dewbunker3150
@dewbunker3150 Год назад
as someone who drafted with paper and pencil up through grad school and since then has made more music via a DAW than otherwise, I completely relate to looking back and feeling that my composition chops were stronger back then. lately, I've been trying to balance the strengths of both approaches. this really resonated with me!
@captnoplan3926
@captnoplan3926 Месяц назад
Me again - your new sub. Love the dry humour in your videos. And yes more on composition philosophy. I think that's what's missing in a lot of electronic music. I watch videos of folks who mastered their DAW, know intricate details of sound design etc, but when checking out their music, it doesn't connect. That's where the tried and tested musical theories come in, as you said. Storytelling with music.
@tristanotear3059
@tristanotear3059 Год назад
Maybe the most compelling “how to” music composition video I’ve ever seen. And the most beautiful background music. Smashing.
@odalv7278
@odalv7278 Год назад
100%… thanks i’m not alone in this; finally i’ve realized that sequencing inside hardware boxes often limits a development of longer sequences, variations, as chaining these patterns and sequencing over them (on hardware) is endlessly tedious hence it forces a musician into the “loop trap”.
@timothyreynolds6255
@timothyreynolds6255 Месяц назад
Discovered you today. This video described what I have been doing for the past couple of years as I learn my craft. Improvise, craft using my formal music training, develop the structure/format, create interest, recreate what I have in FINALE (notation) which adds more refinement. Mix, Master. You have given me renewed confidence in this process. Thank you!
@guinaepig
@guinaepig Год назад
I have found my composition style to be going further and further into the realm of "through composed" as I get older. While I still use loops, instead of going the verse chorus verse route, the sections tend to either not repeat at all or after several parts it ends where it began. This style does not garner a large audience but the challenge is personally satisfying.
@krisumusic
@krisumusic Год назад
I've been producing and composing for 13 years now. I started at 17 and now I'm almosr 31. It's been my full-time job for 7 years. I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve on how to complete ideas before getting tired of my ideas. I use a lot of filters and transpose the scales while mixing and then before the final day of mixing I go clean and mix every individual instrument until it's "good". I still might be very used to the song but I'm so excited about sharing it I've gotten used to pushing through. Completing projects is also a skill just like writing songs to begin with. I also started with composing mostly melancholic piano pieces before heading into the world of electronic chillout and melodic bass music in 2012 :)
@FAETHFLEX
@FAETHFLEX Год назад
Always appreciate these especially this video!!
@dreikycaprice
@dreikycaprice Год назад
Thank you. Loved hearing your thoughts on composition.
@ldsr8911
@ldsr8911 Год назад
Thanks for making this video. I definitely fall into that ‘trap’. I’ll make a catchy segment, then immediately want to add other instruments to create a nice ‘sound’. But then it makes it difficult to go back and progress that initial segment. What’s been working for me recently is recording myself humming. The progressions flow much easier for me than banging away on instruments.
@KitKeenlyside
@KitKeenlyside Год назад
This is great! Had been looking for some inspiration in this area for a while, more would be lovely! Thanks Jameson!
@ahmadasiri9478
@ahmadasiri9478 Год назад
I envy people when they express their ideas this freely. Because it means they reached a deep understanding of their craft or knowledge. Its not like the shallow knowledge when you just skem over a subject that you found interesting. Its always great to watch content from people like you. knowledge have many levels from its basic fluid form till it refined and crystallized form. And in it crystallized form in my opinion knowledge become a form of art.
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
Thanks for the kind words! Verbalizing things in this way is an excellent teacher as well, and I’ve really been enjoying delving into these topics again lately. A lot of it I often need to remind myself.
@lukeh92
@lukeh92 Год назад
Wow! The development of the track in the background is hauntingly beautiful. Amazing piece of music!
@arukhqolakh
@arukhqolakh Год назад
Really good video, enjoyed it a lot! I also really liked your Poly Evolver videos, and can't hardly wait for that Prophet 12 video you mentioned before. Keep up the good work and all the best from Finland!
@gavin_is_gavin6292
@gavin_is_gavin6292 Год назад
Would love more videos on composition, this video was very encouraging (and your sense of humor is spot on :P). Downloaded the book and will check it out.
@NuanSonar
@NuanSonar Год назад
Great stuff! I really love the distinction between composition and music theory; I think that's an especially interesting point that really had me hung up when I first started making music.
@peterbrandauer1610
@peterbrandauer1610 Год назад
Man what a great balance between talent, editing, and content. Great ideas, thanks for this
@BubbleFilms
@BubbleFilms Год назад
This was so informative and helpful for my own musical journey. Thanks so much! I knew I subscribed for more than just your stylish RU-vid Shorts.
@DEADLINETV
@DEADLINETV Год назад
You've definitely given me a new perspective to work from! Loved the video! I like your style, your humor and your playing.
@JannisLeWolff
@JannisLeWolff Год назад
Thanks for sharing this- and also showing your pianist side. Those little playing moments gave the video a really warm and honest feeling and - in a positive way - are a counterpoint to the "standard" RU-vid music production style. It reminded me of how I sometimes listen to music from let's say the 70s or earlier and feel like "oh wow, those people actually used composition and songwriting" compared to the loopy/more sound based style of today. I think it would be awesome to hear more about you transforming from a classically trained musician to an electronic one, especially your observations on how to integrate your "old" experiences into the new territory. I feel like it's quite a challenge to find a good balance between being instrumentalist and producer, although in theory it feels like it should give you so many advantages. Your channel is really inspiring, thanks 💚
@nebula0697
@nebula0697 Год назад
Those piano examples in the middle are really beautiful, evoking the impressionists. Love it.
@rodrigolaporte274
@rodrigolaporte274 Год назад
UUUHHH I LOVE this kind of videos!!!! I'm going to re-watch this one a few times to make sure I don't miss important details
@lrkx_
@lrkx_ Год назад
Oh yes please! More about composition is definitely needed. Very good video, and the analogies were illuminating.
@DanMess
@DanMess Год назад
Thank you for telling us a bit about your musical background and journey. I would love to see more content like this. Fantastic video!
@fuckinzell
@fuckinzell Год назад
I’ve been producing in a DAW for 10+ years. 4 bar loop was how I started every track. Then i bought a drum machine last winter and now I start everything with an 8 bar loop. Just going from 4 bars to 8 bars drastically changed the way I approached making a complete song. My drum patterns go way harder now because there’s more room for variance over 8 bars as opposed to 4, and the same applies to the other musical elements too.
@kensley94
@kensley94 Год назад
@@mrobjects yes not everyone figure things out the same speed, dont get your ego up. Every person has their own tempo of discovering things Dont look down on people, peace
@fuckinzell
@fuckinzell Год назад
@@mrobjects no, it didn’t take me 10 years to find that out. Even when I was strictly using a DAW I would use a 8 bar loop… it just wasn’t an every-time-I-boot-the-DAW consistency and it usually wasn’t with drums. I used 8 bar loops mostly w/synths and other musical elements but drums stayed 4 bar loops most of the time.
@evanderholyfeels
@evanderholyfeels Год назад
​@@mrobjects You shouldnt have an ego, your music is 🗑 Have a great week.
@baskoning9896
@baskoning9896 Год назад
can I ask you something thats a bit complicated? I have a musical theory about things never repeating if you take two rhythms and have them NOT in sync in any way. Two soundsources both play at 50 bpm, then with my two knobs, I can adjust them faster/slower at will. Slowing the first to 30 bpm, increasing the second faster and faster till the beats in the score themselves create a new tone at a slower bpm. But. Thats almost near impossible it seems to me. What DAW could do that?
@fuckinzell
@fuckinzell Год назад
@@baskoning9896 I think you’d be better off trying to create something like that with hardware. DAWS are locked to one BPM for the entire project afaik, so you could change the tempo but it would affect every file in the project not just one file or the other.
@tworoundrobins
@tworoundrobins Год назад
Really insightful stuff and thank you for sharing this wonderful thoughts. It’s really refreshing hearing synth channels talking about the craft rather than just showcasing gear
@t.edworthy
@t.edworthy Год назад
Extremely helpful Jameson, thank you. Relatable and in depth, exactly why I love your videos. Looking forward to more surrounding composition.
@Jscara978
@Jscara978 Год назад
Fantastic video and advice! It's so refreshing to see a video like this that isn't conflating theory with composition. I'm looking forward to getting to the piano and placing some restrictions on my creative process. Thank you
@proxibomb4913
@proxibomb4913 Год назад
its like everytime i watch one of your videos, you become my favorite youtuber more and more. only you, ricky tinez, and benn jordan really keep my attention w these videos. stellar work as usual, dude!
@jaygeedeepbro
@jaygeedeepbro Год назад
This put into words what I try to do with my own music and gave me some ideas about how to better do that with the gear I have so thank you!
@dtreestudio
@dtreestudio 8 месяцев назад
WOW! Thank you for your art...LOVE your channel! Keep on keeping ON
@joegrant413
@joegrant413 Год назад
Really enjoying your channel! I’ve been listening the last week or so, and your style and content are unique and I’m getting a lot out of this. Thanks.
@reacherstudio
@reacherstudio Год назад
You have put into words what I've been thinking for years, tremendous!! Your music and content are incredible, thank you for the message
@hamsterbrigade
@hamsterbrigade Год назад
Literally going through this right now. You've actually given some prescriptive advice; much appreciated.
@MishyKatz
@MishyKatz 3 месяца назад
Recently discovered your channel and I love your sense of humor and approach to sharing the music stuff with us all. Very relatable for me, in a lot of ways, thank you!!
@bloyomind1on1
@bloyomind1on1 Год назад
Would love to hear more about composition! Like about chords and using them to portray particular feelings.
@tristanlincolndavis
@tristanlincolndavis Год назад
Love how you break it down to brass tacks and waste no time. Super inspiring, thanks for this !
@kevinbatchelor9566
@kevinbatchelor9566 Год назад
This may just be my favorite video you’ve made so far. Really useful wisdom here.
@__vidarr
@__vidarr Год назад
Amazing stuff! I would love to see more composition videos, thank you so much. I've started not so long ago to make music. I feel a consistent improvement since I've started (and received some positive feedback from people much more skilled than I am) regarding sound design and mixing, even though I still struggle a lot with composition. I've never played an instrument and during last year I spent a lot of time digging into music theory: while I understand the concepts I read about and then try out, I still struggle to get ideas on developing an interesting musical composition. Whether I take it to a point where I destroy it or I get lucky pretty soon while randomly applying music theory concepts or with basic sequencing :( thank you again!
@domejunky
@domejunky Год назад
This is great, really clear. More of this please... Also the song that you're using underneath the latter part. 'Somewhat the same'? - really is a special piece of music. It had already stuck out when I dug through your back catalogue. Interesting to see it played
@peadookie
@peadookie 10 месяцев назад
I think your focus on composition as it pertains to electronic music is uniquely higher-level and a big reason why I've subbed. Thanks for the awesome content.
@Lemontree1423
@Lemontree1423 Год назад
I'd listen to you talk about nearly anything. I especially love hearing your thoughts on music. Love your content.
@SrNutritivo
@SrNutritivo Год назад
I should say, after 15 years on youtube, never got subscribed so fast to a channel
@PabloOrtegaMusic
@PabloOrtegaMusic Год назад
likewise
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
Haha thanks so much, and welcome :)
@Arhidilius
@Arhidilius Год назад
Great video! I've been stuck with this problem for about a six months and this video puts into words things that helped me to solve it for myself
@brendenschuur4784
@brendenschuur4784 Год назад
You are so good at conveying everything you say. Thank you man
@cloud_noises
@cloud_noises Год назад
Nice video! I really like how you illustrated the melody examples on piano.
@chinidadian
@chinidadian Год назад
Definitely appreciated this one and looking forward to seeing more videos on composition. For my part that improvision bit feels very daunting because my background is a rock band where ideas were generated by jamming with others. It's very different opening the blank DAW and knowing how to start when there's no one else there to inspire me (with something they play) or 'validate' my ideas (by reacting or adding something new).
@fastracksdigitalplayground2619
Bro! The Answer and Question concept literally cured me of 4 bar looping!! Thank you. I subbed ya 😁
@ShreddingDragon
@ShreddingDragon Год назад
Your words and approach to the subject are very inspiring and empowering! Very well-worded. Thanks for making these videos. 🙏
@duality4y
@duality4y Год назад
what i often struggle with is hearing some chords imagine how it goes further and translate that to the piano, or been improvising and stop, then coming up with new ideas and then being unable to play those new ideas on the piano
@bpmoore2934
@bpmoore2934 Год назад
You legend. I massively enjoyed this. After finishing an album recently, I am at a crossroads and not sure what to work towards next. This has really helped to focus me again.
@nb6949
@nb6949 Год назад
Thanks for posting this. The call and response concept seems like a really good approach with programmed riffs/vamps etc.
@juan_ta
@juan_ta 3 месяца назад
I discovered you recently and suscribed immediately. Thanks for your videos and for their distinctiveness!
@gesslr
@gesslr Год назад
This is a WONDERFUL video...! No nonsense, to the point, and useful suggestions. Bravo, sir! 🙂
@cornishwavesmusic
@cornishwavesmusic Год назад
Enjoyed this dude,great stuff,always get something out of your vids
@demidevil666
@demidevil666 Год назад
This was phenomenal. Thank you for the food for thought! Also, I very much enjoyed your piano playing throughout. :) Greetings from Germany
@williambutterworth6693
@williambutterworth6693 6 месяцев назад
Just want to say thanks for your content. Really well put together, incredibly well articulated and very interesting. Keep it up!
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@adroc9101
@adroc9101 Год назад
This is the first time I’ve seen a video of yours and it would seem the algorithms were right on with this one. I really appreciate the info / advice in this vid. Thank you!! 👍🏽👍🏽
@MatthewLowes
@MatthewLowes Год назад
Great video! I always enjoy your presentation and sense of humor. Didn’t realize you were such an experienced pianist/composer. I’d love to see more content like this. I am not very experienced, but I have a little piano background and I still sometimes work out sequences there and write them down before putting them into a sequencer. My main background is in writing, so I often think about composition in terms of story structure. I think it’s possible to improvise those structures too, but it’s not the same as really working deeply on a composition. Cheers, and thanks for posting! :)
@crackity_jones94
@crackity_jones94 Год назад
Wow, you really are great at what you do. Loved this video! Thank you 🙏
@Gu1tar1st
@Gu1tar1st 4 месяца назад
I have watched so many videos of people building a one bar, two bar, or four bar phrase or motif, then twiddling knobs to change to timbre of what’s going on. Some RU-vidrs are so good at doing it and they sound incredible. I really admire their skill, but I have sometimes wished they would write pieces of music, not just paint sound and rhythm scapes. I prefer melodic music myself. I am a classical guitarist who has just got into synthesisers. I sequence my synths with a Digitakt, which I use to compose melodic pieces. I’m not the best at it, but I’m getting better. Ironically I have learned how to use the Digitakt to compose by watching those RU-vidrs building and performing a one to four bar loop. I have watched a lot of your videos, even liked them, but I only just now realised that I wasn’t subscribed. Thank you for this video. I have just subscribed.
@tinyboatsmusic
@tinyboatsmusic Год назад
If you also want to, please continue this composition series. Your take speaks directly to me and it's also one of the very few I could find over time.
@miedzystrunami
@miedzystrunami 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this essay. The Q+A analogy really opens up things for me - it's really a beautiful abstraction that embraces not only things like song structure (AABA etc), but also things like changes in dynamic, texture and other building blocks. I feel really inspired - thank you!
@blacktminister415
@blacktminister415 Год назад
Fantastic video. Thank you! Would love to see more of these, will download the book.
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
More to come!
@JumpingCow
@JumpingCow 2 месяца назад
A lot of good points, and extremely useful. Theory vs composition. Mine your improvs. Question and answer melodies. And your own compositions and playing - breathtaking. This is great.
@jloiben12
@jloiben12 9 месяцев назад
There are so many of my playlists I have to put your content in. You stretch across so many things in your video which I mean in the best way possible
@DanielHolter
@DanielHolter Год назад
The shorts closeup GOT ME. 😂😎
@DanielHolter
@DanielHolter Год назад
which is not to be dismissive of this fantastic video and topic, great work per usual... I ADORE the "improvisation as mining" metaphor, that is precisely it
@gapalp
@gapalp Год назад
I've played guitar for 35 years. Improvisation came natural to me on it, and I have extended that to playing piano and synths. I know I then need to take an idea that came out of my improv and form that into a composition. That is the tough part. I can do it, but man it is not something I get excited about doing. But the end results of a full song are awesome and I am happy I spent the time composing. Thanks for your insights into the process.
@AndyNicholson
@AndyNicholson Год назад
Hell yes, more please! The "theory of composition" rather than "theory and composition" (if that makes sense) is absolutely my jam, and you discuss it in a really great, accesible and entertaining way. I am excited for what you do next, whichever direction you go in :)
@Vlad-oe1px
@Vlad-oe1px Год назад
I just discovered your channel today. It has honestly been an amazing experience. I feel like you literally make videos for me even though I know almost nothing of music theory(only basic stuff) and never learned an instrument. The previous video I watched was "Classical Musicians suck at Electronic Music" and again, it was not made for me specifically but I was still intrigued. The way you described the structure of a song(horizontal or vertical) was an incredible. You put an image of what I'm often thinking of regarding creating music. Since I am not classically trained, for me its hard to make a "linear" song. That's why I'm so often stuck in loop mode. Anyways, I'm ranting. But honestly, thank you! I have been stuck in the same place and I find your videos really helpful! Thanks again and I'm sorry if my English is not perfect! Keep it up, I will follow closely!
@chycor
@chycor Год назад
Inspired. Thank you. Love your videos by the way, entertaining and informative.
@clamato54
@clamato54 Год назад
Your comments on improvisation and melody question/answer, more intense question, resolution all clicked for me. I've been wanting to organize all these raw clips of improvisation on trumpet and keyboard with some experimentation on guitar... Into a composition. This gives me the feeling I'm on the right track and not just lost diverging into some abyss of self-indulgence
@codeheed
@codeheed Год назад
wish I could hit like multiple times, loved this. Really reinforced my current trajectory, not musically trained! Great video.
@macronencer
@macronencer Год назад
This video is the best summary I've seen on RU-vid of the way in which I want to approach making electronic music. As someone who also writes stories, I'd say your analogy with novels is spot on as well. It's so true that we get stuck revisiting old haunts when improvising, and I suspect this is why so many seasoned music creators end up as multi-instrumentalists. I was trained in piano (nowhere near your level, but classical training) but I also used to play double bass when I was at school, and now, in my fifties, I've taken up tin whistle, bought a ukulele, and got myself a Linnstrument as well so that my fingers can approach scales and harmony in a totally different way. These things really help avoid that trap of regurgitating the same patterns. I write and read music notation as well, but I've not done it for a while, and after watching this, I think I will. I'm hoping it will help me to focus more on structure and form. Thank you so much! Subscribed.
@karlklee9418
@karlklee9418 Год назад
Wow, your videos are relay changing the way I’m thinking about my work. In a very productive way! Thank you!
@popsarocker
@popsarocker Год назад
Can't believe I only just now found this channel. Possibly the most lucid intro to composition I've seen on the internet that's also appealing to folks who've actually tried to compose. I relate so hard to the listening to that 4 bar phrase over and over. Thank you (p.s. I stopped reading books on music theory all together probably 10 years ago. Best thing I could've done form my writing ;)
@kevinp4771
@kevinp4771 Год назад
Litterally there right now. The loop I loved I now hate.. then up popped your video! Thanks!
@MACRONOne
@MACRONOne Год назад
Really liked the demonstration piece you played there, really nice progression
@JamesonNathanJones
@JamesonNathanJones Год назад
Thanks!
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