Must watch If thinking about buying a Ninja 650! 

I agree engine breaking is pretty intense. I love it and i dont think ill sell mine. If anything im getting another bike to complement it

A Bike and Its Boy First off I love your channel name. Ha i often find myself in 6th looking for that 7th gear that I will never have. So far this bike has been awesome. What do you think about the zx10? Thinking about moving up come spring

I really like the ZX10R. I sat on a 2017 with no fluids in it and was shocked at how light it was. The 650, even thought it's flickable, it's heavy. I could have easily bought a ZX10R but it was more fun drooling over it. Instead, I ended up buying a ZX6R for a couple reasons. First, I really want to improve my riding skills. My ZX6R doesn't have the electronics that the ZX10R has. I've got no ABS, no traction control, no wheelie control, no power modes, nothing. To get good on the ZX6R I have to work actually learn my riding skills. The other thing that made me want to go with a 600cc was a friend of mine. This guy is one of the "aliens" at track days. He rode an old ZX6R and is one of the smoothest and fastest guys on the track. (He's also a riding instructor and has given me a lot of great advice pretty much from the day I started riding.) I should also note that my ZX6R is also set up as a racing bike, it has about $7,500 in racing bits on it. This guy took it out on track and after a session on it he told me that it would take a long time outgrow this bike. I'm pretty confident I made the right decision with the ZX6R. The 1000cc bikes have great top end and accelerate faster that the 600's, obviously. But the guys who ride them all say the same thing, they're harder to turn than a 600. Given on how I plan on using this bike, I think the 600cc was the right choice for me. Will I get a 1000cc some day? Probably. If you ride sportbikes I think it's required by law or something that we all have to own or have once owned a 1000cc one day. A couple other things. The step from the 650 to the 600 was easy from a power prospective. What was really different was the riding position. You go from the very upright position with wide bars to a much more aggressive position with narrow clip-ons. At first I was like, "How do people turn these things?" It didn't take too long to get used to it. Now I find the 600 more comfortable than the 650. (And this is coming from someone who has had 2 spinal surgeries and a knee reconstruction after being wiped out on my bicycle by a car.) Anyway, that's my $0.02. Coming from a track prospective and how I want to grow, the 600 made sense. I should also tell mention that I did ride a BMW S1000RR before getting the ZX6R and that was one fun bike. I was very comfortable on it and thought I could have a lot of fun with a bike like that. Given that you seem to make smart decisions while riding you should have no trouble with a 1000 should you want one. Peace bro, and stay safe out there!!!

A Bike and Its Boy hey mate just curious how comfortable would be on long distance rides

It is not too bad. The nice thing about the 650 is the upright riding position. The seat is pretty comfortable, and the bars are positioned nicely.

Levi Moffatt - The 650 is a pretty comfy bike. The riding position is pretty upright. I've ridden 1050 miles on it in a day with no problem at all and then gone out the next day and ridden another 600+. My only grip is where the pegs are put my bum knee in an awkward position and it can start to ache a little bit after 8-9 hours on the bike. Some might disagree with this, but I'm actually more comfortable on the ZX6R then I am on the 650. The more aggressive riding position just feels more comfortable to me.

Happy i could be of some help. Ha

Hearing that part hurt me lol

i paid 3300$ for mine its a 2010 but only had 5miles on it!

Oh wow! Hows it been riding? Though about making your own channel?

I got a 2009 ninja 650r last month for 2400 with 4k miles

Poppol 3300 dollar? Damn... The only 650’s I can find in the Netherlands are at least 6900€

Hey Anil! Appreciate the comment very much. Great to hear that you liked the video. I hope i can continue to make content that you and others enjoy watching in the future. I continue to develop myself, my riding style, and my camera techniques and will keep striving to be better.

Defensive riding is the key ✌️

Ha i ussually ride through ymouth then around mg

I agree omegapsi847. Just take a look at craigslist or any other online marketplace. They are flooded with 250s and 300s. Those bikes are great dont get me wrong but leave a little lacking in the power department. The newer 650 bikes offer a bunch of low end torque and enough power to cruise at 100 on the hwy. if you are looking for other 650 options check out the kawasaki z650 and suzuki sv650. They are both popular naked bikes. I hope you can buy a bike soon and join the two wheeled life!

R3 is an excellent starter bike for a complete beginner then after a few years when you've perfected your riding skills you can upgrade(if you really want to) but the ZX-6R is very very costly to insure so you better have a good job if that's the bike you choose-the ninja650 would be a better choice-plenty of power and way cheaper to insure.

For a highway cruising, Ninja 650 is surely great especially upgrading from Ninja 250/300. However, if you are a commuter through city traffic like me, I would seriously consider Ninja 400 as well.

tia ria yeah me too! I might buy a 2018 they are so cheap I’ll just pay cash great way to save money from my 2017 Silverado that gets 8 mpg haha.

William Thompson i love that it is quiet. I might pick up a zx10r once this bike is paid off. They are screemers though.

Thts a great deal man. That was with tax title and everything

@@mntwofiveohh3787 came out to $6,4XX after taxes, tags, and all the fees. Considering it was brand new in the crate for the abs model, I thought it was a good deal.

Thats real great. Hows she riding

@@mntwofiveohh3787 great, just put another 120 miles of back roads on it today. It's such a fun and comfortable bike to ride.

Thank you very much. I continue to try and improve on my video and audio editing. What kind of bike do you have?

Mntwofiveohh 2013 ninja 650, when I bought it it only had 4K miles and I’ve only put 500 miles on it since I got it in sept. It was for sale at 4,7k however I talked them down to 5k after taxes and fees it was a great deal.. glad I waited... ya I look forward to seeing more of your content... I just subscribed.

It’s definitely a larger bike but the power is so manageable! It is very hard to get yourself to power wheelie. You would have to throttle it real hard in 1st. After a few rides you would get down the feel no problem. I say do it!

Just over a year so not super long. I think that it is a great bike for any level. You will probably get similar acceleration as with the harley. Much lighter and more nimble bike though.

Why not get another sportster?

Muhammed Roshan thank you. Hope i can make some stuff you enjoy watching in the future.

Thank you! I love mine. Perfect for everything i need.

Like 130 a month with zero down and 5% interest

What are you thinking about picking up?

Okay thanks. And a newer ninja 650

I would have started with the 650. Its much more powerful and versatile. 250 was great but it is limited and i got bored

More power didn’t scare you?

Initially ya but the 650 puts it down in a linear way that is predictable. And i want my bike predictable

Well right now i just updated my moto vlog rig to a go pro hero 8 with the media mod. The mic i use is just a generic lapel mic from amazon into the media mod. Other than that i just lower the levels in post production to avoid excessive noise. Other people recommend the purple panda mic that can be found on amazon.

Prior to my new rig i used a go pro hero 5 session into their mic adapter using the same generic mic. I love vlogging

Very similar bikes in terms of being pretty darn reliable and comfy. The cbr is slightly more aggressive in terms of riding styles. The 650 will give you more punch though. Im a kawasaki guy all the way so id choose that. I had my 650 and now my z1000.

Get the 650, it's a great bike. CBR500r engine is less powerful than 650. I've had a 2013 ninja 650R ABS for 3 years and still love it. Just got new matching tires and it handles great!

Sport bikes wouldnt really be for commuting tbh lol

Ha. No it is in Minnesota. But yes people can ride bikes on them. I loved my 650. I just upgraded to a Kawasaki z1000. I’d love to ride through yellow stone.

Thats a pretty great deal. Its so new that i wouldnt be too concerned with mechanical problems. Before you buy you will want to test ride the bike and make sure everything feels straight. Sometimes people just get sick of riding and sell for very cheep. Good luck on your purchase! Let me know what happens

Mntwofiveohh the guy never responded I ended up getting a 2009 Suzuki SV650!

Aweome! Hows she been?

Jonathan Laparan How did u managed 2 upgrade to 100hp? Tga saan ka Pre?

Thats awesome. How did you get it to 100 horsepower? My z1000 makes only 130 horsepower

I BOUGHT THE 650CC OFF THE SHOW-CASE IN CEBU CITY PHILIPPINES. IN 3-YRS I BARELY PUT 4000-KMS ON THE ENGINE. IT MANUEVERS GREAT AT SLOW OR FAST SPEEDS. TRAFFIC HERE IS EXTREMLY DANGEROUS. I ACCIDENTLY DONE WHEELIES JUST CHANGING GEARS 1-3

Ha ill get right on that! Should i do a back flip while jumping the gorge?

@@mntwofiveohh3787 Make sure to set the gorge on fire. And fill it with sharks.

What kind of bike is it and what year. Some bikes require the kickstand to be up and the clutch pulled in. Check obvious stuff like making sure key is on and kill switch is on. After those simple things start with the battery. Us a volt meter should read like 12-13 I think. After that could be a number of things from kickstand sensor to whatever else

If i were you i would upgrade to the ninja 650 you will see a larger boost in power and features. You still wont quite keep up with the 600cc super sports but you could be happy for a long time with it. I just recently upgraded to a kawi z1000 which was even a larger bump. What kind of riding do you do? Casual or are you a speed demon?

@@mntwofiveohh3787 Im starting to lean towards the 650 just because i think i'll have more fun with it and get bored of the 500 fairly qiickly. And since I was on a 250 I couldn't really speed too much but I'm more of a casual rider i'd say. Im 19 but I think i'm mature enough to not get into some trouble with it. I just like to drive around campus and commute to work with it

It was a great bike always solid

Is it private party or from a dealer. Id say from a dealer thats be fine. Private though id max around 3000. Buf at the end of the day its about if the bike feels right. Ive bought mine because they are just the right price. Paid a bit much at a dealer but ive loved them

@@mntwofiveohh3787 where i live dealer for 2013 is 5k and private is like mid 4

Where in mn do you ride? Where did you pick the bike up from?

@@mntwofiveohh3787 i have yet to ride at all yet, its my first bike and needs new tires im still saving for :/ i live 1 hour north of the cities.

@@mntwofiveohh3787 i bought the bike from a coworker, ill probably end up riding mostly the roads near to my house because they are nice curvy back roads, i live in north part of anoka county.

Devon pilot that doesnt sound like too bad of a deal. The only concern i would have is did he do all the maintenance. Maybe get him down another couple hundred bucks for good measure.

@@mntwofiveohh3787 agreed. This will be my first bike, is there anything I should look out for before handing over the cash? I dont know much at all about the mechanics of a bike

The first thing to do is obviously look for any damage, do a visual inspection of the chain ( looking for rust or lots of slack). This will help gauge how well its been taken care of. Next ask him to leave the bike cold for an hour before showing up. Start the bike up in neutral and listen for any loud grinding or ticking. The 650s are pretty quiet so just listen for hard startup and other noises. Let the bike warm up till you hear the fan kick in. Lastly its time for a ride. If you can take it out and get it up to normal street speed thats ideal. Test the breaks.. should be smooth and consistent with no pulsing. Check that the steering feels smooth and even. If it all checks out it should be a good deal. And hopefully you will be riding home with a big smile on your face. Ha this comment just gave me a good idea for a video to make. Thanks man!

@@mntwofiveohh3787 no, thank you! Il be looking forward to watching that video!

Edgar Palacios they made some changes in the body i believe. Mine has a two piece seat which is nice, different dash and maybe a little more power from a retuned ecu. Not sure on that last part though. Its been a great all around bike. To be honest i dont spend most of my time breaking speed limits anyways so im more than happy with the great acceleration that the 650 offers.

The newer one (2017+) had significant changes. 40 pounds weight loss and some more torque at the cost of a little bit less top end with a completely new design inspired by the zx10r. Dunno if its worth upgrading for, but it definitely is a good improvement for a commuter / city bike.

You can be in 6th at around 45 mph. You really dont want to lug the engine though

@@mntwofiveohh3787 thanks I am having a KTM 390 Adventure with me, the problem is I cant drive at low speed, engine heats up very fast.So thinking of going for a used Kawasaki 650 😁.

zac gibb thats awesome. I just upgraded to a z1000 from this but i miss it. Are you going to start a channel?

Would you do a whole system or just a slip on?

@@mntwofiveohh3787 slip on

I clean and lube my chain every 2 weeks or so. Oil change really depends on how much you ride. At the very least every 2000-3000 miles. And for sure after the riding season is over

Jonny Moto thank you! I appreciate the comment

What year were you thinkinng?

Mntwofiveohh Was thinking of a 2018. Something new. Don’t wanna get burned by buying something used lol what u think?

I think with a 650 they are so reliable it wouldnt be too bad getting used. I do love the look of the new ones though ha

sweeeet

Just got one for 5000 and got it delivered from out of state. 😏😏

@@jekiahmathews9536 nice nice

Very easy to handle. Maybe not as nimble as a super sport but for a street bike it leans right over

Thank you sir. How long have you had yours for?

Cameron Augusta i got it last April from simply street bikes in mn

Sounds like a pretty good deal. I did a little research and you can get a 2017 for around 7000-7500. Ones the same year as mine are about 4500 and up. The 2008 had slightly different styling and a single piece seat but similar power and torque. Miles could also play a fair amount into pricing. How many does the one you are looking at have? Appreciate the comment sir. Cant wait for winter to end and to get back on two wheels.

Thanks for your reply i did subscribe, it has 19500 miles on it, thanks for the info,I can't wait to get on a bike after years and years of not riding.Although Im 44 Ive always wanted to get a street bike, finally gonna do it, cant wait!It will be a first riding in traffic as opposed to the country riding i used to do, i feel your never too old to live your dream!

Thank you! The 650 is a great bike and those miles arent too high. Id get it if i were you. You should start a channel!

Thanks!

Thank you. As ive progressed since making the vid ive started to only put music on my intros and outros. Ive been debating editing the video.. ive had that comment a few times now

@@mntwofiveohh3787 Your music is not a problem, can hear you very well.

+Irma Gutierrez my 2015 was 5600 which shakes out to about 130 a month for me

+Irma Gutierrez that is with a 5 year loan. You could probably get a 2017 for just a little bit more with a longer loan term

Irma Gutierrez idk if i already reaponded but i pay 130 a month for my 2015 ninja 650. The cash price was like 5600.

wait so ur bike has 4 hp?😂

@@a._5748 maybe 5

I would say no as long as it has been well maintained. If you dont know how to inspect a bike i would see if a shop can look at it before you purchase. A well running bike should run smooth without too much ticking. The 650s can vibrate a bit due to being an inline twin engine so dont let that throw you off unless it is violent.

You can buy 650s cheap I would get a newer one with only a couple thousand

I agree. Mine had maybe too many miles for the price. Miles arent too bad though if its well taken car of.

Its a great bike. Plenty of power to get in trouble with. Get a green one. Stands out ha

I will definitely try to see if i can get my hands on one so i can review it. From research ive done i think the difference is mostly cosmetic with some changes in the frame and suspension. Drivetrain remains practically the same.

I thought Kawasaki ER6N is the naked version of Ninja 650

The er6n was the predecessor to the z650 from what i can tell. The z has a number of differences such as a lighter swing arm, centrally mounted rear suspension and different head light design. They maintain similar riding positions and outputs. My newest bike, the z1000 has many of the same aspects but with a much more powerful 4 cylinder engine. Of course these naked bikes sport a more peppy low to mid range compared to their super sport brothers. My 650 from a stop had more more power than a 600 but fizzled out quickly.

dMarius152 I've only really rode dirt bikes.... But I'ma jump to a 650r soon... Hopefully

dMarius152 a 600/650 could be a starter bike if you don't gun it every time

I bought a ZX6R and it took a little getting use to coming from a 650. Mainly the riding position. Since the 300 has a bit more aggressive riding position that shouldn't be a huge deal. When you actually learn the skills you need to properly handle a 300, the 600 shouldn't be too intimidating. Get out there and do a couple riding school trackdays where you have professional instructors and get the basics down. Once you've kinda mastered the 300 then look to a 600. (Depending on what you want the bike for.) Regardless, 3-4 trackdays with a reputable riding school will be money well spent ... trust me.

Not a bad deal! What kept you away from the r6 and r1

+Stu Charles Hey! Thanks for the comment man. A lot of my riding is around the minneapolis/ maple grove area. Planning to take her down to the st.croix river valley one of these weekend. I think my next bike will probably be a kawasaki z-1000 naked bike. In kawi green of course. As always ride safe and keep the rubber side down.

Mntwofiveohh I'd get the z900, especially if you want to buy new. I've read that they are superior to the 1000 in across the board. And they're discontinuing the 1000 for next year. Of course it's all subject to opinion anyway.

Ben Gjerde i think that is a great idea! Hopefully i can find one that i like. I just want a little more too end speed out of a bike. Though my ninja is quick.

Ya i got kinda screwed on price. One of the down sides of a dealer i guess. I still love my dealership though. What you ride brother?

@@mntwofiveohh3787 an 2018 650, but the real end goal is a post 2012 ZX-14r

I love the candy green zx-14s. Im in a z1000 right now but in about two years i think i will be thinking of finding a h2

Jesus that is still a ton! I pay 50 for full coverage in mn. Did you get a 650?

Mntwofiveohh no I did not, this quote was for a 2018 brand new gsxr750. I think if I try an older version it will be significantly cheaper but I'm not finding any used close to me (maryland) I refuse to settle for the 650, wish me luck lol I'll find something....good vid btw!

Good luck and thank you!

Its a kawasaki. I have had a ninja 250, ninja 650, and a z1000. All have been very solid. The only one that had a problem was the 250 and it was 20 years old and needed a top end rebuild when i sold it

@@mntwofiveohh3787 isn't ninja and Kawasaki the Same

Some kawasakis are ninjas and others arent. Ninja is the designation given to kawasaki’s fully faired sport bikes.

@@mntwofiveohh3787 now I'm maxed out confused

@@mntwofiveohh3787 so unless it says ninja it's not a ninja

Of course. you just have to take off the factory bar end by un doing the screw and slide on the new “bar end mirror

yea but are there any blanking plates available for the mirrors ? cause i can't find any online ! thanks for the fast response btw !

No problem. I havent found any but i did see that walterific found some. I believe kawasaki shares mirrors between models so you might be able to use ones meant forr the ninja 300/ zx6.

Thanks for the comment!

Louis Davis what do you think about the zx10r? I think i wanna keep low end torque while having a larger top end

What do you think about a learner getting a 636? If you keep the revs low do they treat you nice or sneeze and your bike is down the road?

While vibration is present it is definitely manageable. The seat, and driver pegs are all rubber mounted to reduce vibration.

I never really had that problem. The older ones were a little heVier but mot much. My z1000 sucks in the wind because no wind shield. I am sorry ypu had a negative experience

Mntwofiveohh how bout ur temperature gauge does it goes beyond the half point often? Jus want to know if this is normal ....I’ll be one bar away from complete hot

Then I took my bike in for a oil change now the check engine light is on

That sounds like a pretty sweet deal! Have you got a chance to ride it yet? I just picked up a new bike last week.. havent made a video on it yet but its a 2020 zh2

@@mntwofiveohh3787 oh hell yea this zh2's are awesome! And yea I have the bike now and its not bad all! I've had other bikes but yea this one is all torque on the low end. Just had it completely changed over and all fluids changed. Just bought frame and swing arm sliders, replaced the screen today to a double bubble. Picked up a carbon sedici strada 2 helmet yesterday and tomorrow ill be picking up some type of Bluetooth headset for it and a different pair of gloves and jacket

Pretty great deal it sounds like. Jump right on that. I over paid im sure.

That may not include tax and title charges, which is easily an additional few hundred dollars.

Ha i do forget about that part.

@@TheEmpoleon123456789 yea it was 6 otd... But thats amazing for a brand new ninja 650

Yup! The ninja 650 does not have a high top speed like the zx6. Thats what makes it a good starter bike

@@mntwofiveohh3787 yeah I was looking at one. My second choice ( now my first) is a 2000 zx9r

The zx9 is a pretty great bike. My brother had one. His was a junker but it was quick for sure

@@mntwofiveohh3787 did he have many problems with it? Coinciding it’s condition..

Because it was a bike with a carburetor that can be tricky if you dont know how to work on and fix them. The nice thing about new bikes is fuel injection

Mine did not. It was offered with it though

What year are you planning on?

I honestly don’t know I was think about a newer one 18-19 but insurance places won’t really give me quote I’m also 23

Thats a pretty awesome deal. Hows she running? Is that your first bike?

Mntwofiveohh My second had a Yamaha fzr as first bike. She goes good getting insurance now

How many miles? I’m looking at a 09 8k miles for $2250

One True God how many miles

Ha i just picked up another bike from there. I just bought a 2013 z1000. Just posted a vid. Check it out.

I think every rider has had that happen to them at some point. Ha it sucks but we learn.

Mntwofiveohh your damn right I learned a lot from buying this first bike. Next time ill be more than ready for their lying asses.

I agree. The dealerships are in it to make money. I bought a used '99 Honda CBR600F4 with 5K miles and paid $5000 for it. The bike was in perfect condition and had some nice upgrades as well. I thought that was a good deal.

Awesome! Got a specific one picked out yet? I recommend kawi green.

Mntwofiveohh I’m still looking for one but I’m hoping to get green.

My running average is about 46 even with running hard. Still a very fuel efficient bike

I hear if i switch out that giant muffle i have i could cut some significant weight and get a better sound

Ha it is very quiet. My new z1000 is a bit louder. Still has stock cans on it. What is this manly bike you speak of?

@@mntwofiveohh3787 motorcycle should be seen, not heard

@@mntwofiveohh3787 cans, is that bikespeak? My bike has an exhaust system

Thanks for the comment. After checking out a pic i took of it on the sales rome floor i paid 5777 for the bike itself. A lil high i think. How are you liking yours so far?

oh i love i started out on it

hey man i know i'm late to the game but when i first got my Ninja 650 i shifted into neutral alot, something i found that helped me stop doing this is by shifting with a bit more purpose and keeping your foot raised against the shift leaver until you let out the clutch, this ill stop the bike from slipping back out of gear as you throttle back on. hope it helps.

yeah its weird ill hold the clutch and shift yet it still hits neutral maybe sometimes im trying to go to fast , i had an r6 for awhile and it had the gp shifting which is reversed 1 up for first and 5 down and that seemed so much easier

Thank you very much on the comment. Very helpful advice.

I appreciate the advice. Ill get working on it.

Id also like to think ive made some improvement since this vid. But always appreciate constructive criticism.

No problem and I meant no disrespect. Just offering advice, as a viewer.

I believe the 600 has around 47 ft/lbs which is slightly higher. The benefit pf the 650 is you get the torque at much lower revs.

Mntwofiveohh i think ur wrong

How so?

Ive been trying to mix it up in some of my newer stuff. Using a tripod, gimble, drone. I think one thing that could have helped was having a second camera to cut to facing at me. I appreciate you watching at all and i aim to create better content each time I release a video.

@@mntwofiveohh3787 Thanks for the civil response! I did not deserve it! I apologize! Trying hard not to be negative. It's tough and I am ashamed! Check out the Review titled "2019 Kawasaki Ninja 650 w/ ABS! - Review". He did a great job, best I've seen so far.....

UNFINISHED FOOTSTEPS I wish I could redo my review of this bike. I have since traded it in for a z1000. Going to have to borrow one and touch up my stuff.