Mustang Mach-E Road Trip From Los Angeles to Colorado! A Better Experience On The Return Trip? 

Fuck this is so sensible your name suits your comments.

Thats probably because Ford wouldn't want ppl in there just to charge. It would probably be crowded which could strain their selling. Not to mention the amount of money they'd have to shell out to make the chargers alone would probably cut into their bottom line.

@@yamigokumixz people could browse the lot while charging.

That's way too rational

Probably the same reason they don’t have dedicated Ford Gas Stations.

I watched hundreds of videos (including many of Kyle's) like this over a two year period before concluding that Tesla was the only choice for me. Very pleased with my Tesla, but always like to stay informed on the other guys. The Mach-E looks like a fine car, but they have a LOT of sorting left to do on their software and DC fast-charging. It will get sorted eventually.

Don’t believe all this . Kyle made it worse than it is

@@markfitzpatrick6692 So you're saying that he faked all the connection and failures and charging problems that he actually showed us in the two videos? And the Mustang really shows the charging speeds in the car and doesn't plan a route, using Level 2 chargers, that want you to stop for 8+ hours to charge and that it shows the cities, in the list, where the chargers are located on the planned route? Or that you can't use Ford's plug-and-charge feature and use your EA lower membership discount rate at the same time? Or that it doesn't drop to 12kW when it reaches 80%? Etc, etc. etc.

You won't be sorry with a Tesla. There are a lot of reasons they have the best consumer satisfaction rating.

@@PhilT993 no dont put words in my mouth. Some things like when you know plug and charge doesnt work use the app the rest of trip out and back and not go on and on about it. He chose to keep unplugging all the time when it wasn’t needed just to get a momentary speed boost. It makes the viers blame the network when it isn’t the network all the time. Until the update use the app to charge and see speed

That’s for sure, you get to spend allot of time in the Mustang. Especially when trying to get it charged. 😅

You learn as you go, you get more experience, I had to learn it.

@@mamadouaziza2536 I agree with Chis, as a car fan first and a petrol head second, charging should be frictionless, it really should be plug and play. As with most industries where disrupters appear, the incumbents need to raise their game or face irrelevance, and I fear the later is happening here. It seems only Porsche is doing a good job in carrying the torch for the establishment.

@@Stushbush 100% this, Tesla has been able to do this from the start with barely any problems and "Porsche is doing a good job in carrying the torch for the establishment." is definitely true, you shouldn't have to buy a $80-250k sports car for your charging to work.

@@Stushbush No need for the dramatics.. This car will be fine. Some chargers work and others don't at EA. As more people use the chargers the more EA will monitor the chargers and immediately fix issues.. A lot of these chargers just sit idle for days or weeks.

@@mamadouaziza2536 so it comes down to EA being a disorganized mess.

🤣😂

No he doesn’t the app shows the charge rate he doesn’t use the functon

@Jimmy Edward it does for me I use it all the time you just need to know how to use the app and a lot of this negativity could be prevented in these videos

Its not Ford or the car, its EA chargers.. I mean do you blame the car if there are errors within the chargers?

@@mamadouaziza2536 How are you certain it's EA? I had an error at a charging station and couldn't get the station to work. A VW pulled up and got it to work fine. I'm not saying it's not EA...perhaps both Ford and EA need to figure out why there's more friction than anyone would like.

This guy really doesn't need to be anywhere so he can play with that electric toy all day long. He is trying to make a living off of people's interest in eVehicles.

@@mikeb1039 he’s on a road trip...what garage is he gonna plug into?

I avoid EA as a leaf plus driver, its usually a nice card tap and charge. Good ol chademo

get a MYPOD teardrop, and stay at an RV park

I’m researching this one because I’m considering reserving the 2022 F150 lightning electric truck. I’d love to be able to take it on a long trip now and then looks like I’m going to have to wait on the charging infrastructure to grow and improve.

A car designed for BPH sufferers.

@@user-wj4mc9sp8f lolz!!!

Same here. I've had my 2015 Model S for 2 years and while it maxes out at 110kw, I can count on my fingers the number of times I've plugged in a bad supercharger. Plus with superchargers, you know instantly when there's a problem, as they either charge or fail within 10 seconds. At this point, it's clear the plug and play is awful and not working, so at least his app swipe is more reliable, but the charging curve is the worst. With Tesla and Porsche, you can do cannonball road trips with only 15-20 minute charging stops. Not with the Mach-E.

Don't know if its a EA thing or a Mustang thing but at least in Europe the CCS charging sessions are pretty smooth

@@GaudiHitByTram Yeah, looking at Bjorn’s experience in Norway using Ionity, Mer, Circle K, etc. and all the third party public DC fast chargers it does seem like Europe DCFC performs 99% flawlessly, like what Tesla is able to achieve.

100 miles per leg for a 1000 mile trip is ridiculous. I'm exhausted just watching the video. It doesn't look good for EA that the ID4 apparently works better on their system than non-VW brands.

@@dmiller9786 I go 400 miles a tank in my Ford Edge. I could have been way down the road while he was fooling around in some Walmart parking lot with that charging mess. And those charging stations look like a good place to get robbed.

@@2013AirForce Europe also standardized on CCS2, I wish we would be as sensible

Although you might certainly be right about the discrepancy between Europe and US in terms of non-Tesla charging infrastructure, the problems featured in this and the previous video mostly or completely stem from the car's software issues... would probably be the same in Europe is what I'm saying.

@@davidsommen1324 I disagree. If you've watched his previous videos he has had issues with many many chargers across many parts of the US. It's not just the Ford's issue, but also EA and their chargers/software.

Keep in mind that we don't have plug and charge here in Europe yet. Kyle didn't have problems on the way back when he used the app.

I seem to remember that the Polestar gave Bjorn some trouble but everything else seems to work. The UK reviewers seem to have a terrible time with non Tesla

I I seem to remember the Bjorn had trouble with the Polestar but everything else is seamless The UK reviewers seem to have even more trouble than Kyle is having except of course at Tesla superchargers which works perfectly in the UK as they do here

Why not into a Tesla?

@@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry Not sure, not a big fan of Tesla although a lot of people are. I'm looking at the new Kia.

@@barryvanorden9260 I'm just curious about what puts you off about Tesla. If it's price, I totally get it. Their cheapest offering now is at about 40k before any state rebates. If the new infrastructure bill goes through, it'll be about 10k off. So you'd basically get a car that can 1000 miles for $30 in electric if charged at home, with the speed of a sports car, while being the safest car ever made, and most efficient. Their charging network is robust. It's like when cellphones started, the only thing that mattered was the reach and reliability of the network. That's pretty much where we are now. Tesla is the only game in town so long as the overall charging network that isn't Tesla made continuous to be as wonky as it is.

@@GoogleDoesEvil that's only for the high power chargers. Most people charge 99% of the time at home for about $30 a month to go 1000 miles.

But its not the car's fought that EA has charging issues. Kyle did not try other public charges..

Tesla had problems with the s when it came out. Kyle is too fixated on the charging speed. The app shows the speed he didn’t know how to useit

My thoughts exactly. Ford didn't even bother to have their engineers do real road tests like this.

@@mamadouaziza2536 Tell that to the father who has to convince his wife and 3 kids in the back that MAYBE it'll charge after 3rd or 4th charging stall failure. Honey, don't blame Ford, it's EA's fault! Yeah, that'll go well with the wife.

@@markfitzpatrick6692 Watch his previous road trip. He says in the video the app does not show the charging speeds. Ford must've added it. I'm willing to bet Kyle is a very very smart dude based on his previous video reviews.

To me, 300 miles is good enough. The issue is the speed of charge. We need to get to the point where you can charge in 10 minutes or less. Charging for an hour is simply unacceptable. The good thing is, most people are doing this types of road trips often. The last time I traveled more than 300 miles had to have been 10 years ago! But to get to the point where nobody can complain, we need to get to the point where you're in and out in under 10 minutes.

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 As long as it's a true 300 miles, then I can agree. I know some vehicles lose their range significantly in the winter or on the highway.

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Yep. The Taycan, despite having a relatively short range, is one of the fastest road tripping EVs because of how fast it charges. It better be though its $$$. Also kind of at the mercy of the charging companies and 350 chargers.

The CyberTruck will never get produced !!!

Excellent choice, Hybrids are the much better decision then any EV.

Yeah why the scenery is highlighted??? Uhhh? Just say road trip.

If he does that, nobody will buy electric cars.

@@alfredpissi4718 idk abt that. For a commuter car, electric sounds really nice, especially with the 7,500 tax credit

@@cakearmy_maxgaming6346 Sounds nice to you paying $.43/kwh or waiting for two hours to charge 40% of the battery? I'll keep my Rogue.

@@cakearmy_maxgaming6346 Biden killed the tax credit and now charges taxes on electric cars.. What this guy failed to mention is the extended range battery is an extra 18,500

Sounds like a practical plan, if you can afford two vehicles. Alternately, one might rent an ICE vehicle for infrequent long trips.

ID.4 will be the most trippy car. 😁

Thanks for watching!

Yup

ID.4 Road trips will happen soon!

@@OutofSpecMotoring Sweet, thank you

there are a few out there. Seems like VW nailed charging curve and is avoiding all these Mustang issues.

Right? Remember that time you took a road trip in a Tesla, had to swap stalls 3 times, unplug and replug 6 times and delete the app each time to stopped.....oh wait.

Yep I don't think he does he research that well - and I am happy with waiting 50 minutes at a charger - My Bolt EV does fine and battery dedgergation is unknown in the Porsche

Plenty of videos on Out of Spec Reviews on this topic

Ha, I know! That was pretty bad.

Insane!! Ford is going to get sued big time, because people will die from this.

On some of the old chargers, the rfid would never work. Hopefully they’ve got that figured out. It’s so much easier that way IMO.

I stopped myself!!

Then I'll get it out on the..asphalt...

App does show that vehicle is charging. It will definitely send you a text when it’s not charging, if you’ve set the app up that way.

45 minute stop every 180 miles = stupid

@@hankspankemer3868 EV’s charge at a much faster rate when the battery is closer to zero. So you could stop every hundred miles and charge for just 15 minutes. What is stupid is to go stop at a gas station every 2 weeks to fill up. With an EV you just plug at home at night just like you do with a cell phone.

Try it. You won't make money on a 50 it's a service for local customers . Think what a 350/150 install would cost with monthly standby utility fees. No-one will use them and pay more than a home charge unless they have to.

@@JohnRoss1 people that are traveling. wasnt kyle, traveling?

@@mts982 The volume isn't there yet. There aren't enough people doing road trips on EVs yet. Any 3rd party network would lose money trying to install a fast charger at the moment.

@@ymcpa73 uh, theres faster chargers than 50kw.

@@ymcpa73 did you even watch the video?

I thought so too, until they cannonballed with the Porsche Taycan. That worked beautifully with the exception of a longer hand shake time vs Tesla. Kyle also did a road trip with the Hyundai Kona and it was flawless, albeit with a 75kw max charging rate set by Hyundai. The Hyundai Ionic 5 promises to fix that problem with 18 minute charging times from 5-80%.

Id4 is not good

Stick to gas cars, don't get conned.

@@dickriggles942 lol why are you here?

Get a tesla and avoid all these issues.

@@DouglasBailey Tesla was first ones that I crossed off my list given the terrible/complete lack of customer focus - not to mention paint issues and this rpmweb.ca/fr/videos/reportages/reportages/antirouille-bolduc-partie-1-les-defauts-des-tesla

@@DouglasBailey - sounds like even a Tesla would charge too slow for him.

He presses continue on the charger screen to see current charging speed (in kw). The Mustang does not show charging speed inside the car. It is capable of displaying charging speed, but Ford thinks it’ll confuse people so they intentionally chose to not display it. On road trips most drivers want to know their charging speed though, to determine if the session is good or if they need to hit the road or switch stalls.

It seems the session won’t begin until “continue” is pressed. It’s a needless additional step as far as I’m concerned. It should just START. 😃

@@jeffh5903 - it will just start. No need to press continue.

Well, 195 miles is 3 hours non stop driving at 65. Since the cars go at least 200 miles when driving that speed, I would say I wouldn’t want to road trip with you, if you don’t want to stop after more than 3 hours in the car.

@@bobwill its not the stopping or the speed that is the problem. Its all of the issues with getting the electricity that I don't want to deal with - speed of charging, connecting, and also waiting for an available charger. Keep up the great videos and see you on the road!

@@wp-aiseo Yeah, I'm getting ready to buy my first EV just before the US Tax credits expire. But, I'm single, and don't really mind the *I'm planning to go on an adventure* style of long distance route planning you kinda need for an EV right now. I also live in Maryland, and 90% of my long distance trips would be up or down I-95, which is full of high speed chargers.