My 2023 FL5 Type R Buying Experience | Avoid high dealer markups | Tips & Tricks 

Just got mine at msrp, HOLD THE LINE FOLKS. DO NOT BUY ABOVE MSRP!

So much common sense here. House then car. Priorities! And congrats on the car.

The house first then the car, smart bro I needed to see something like this. I have been trying to get one and was willing to put a pause on buying a home but your right about the debt limiting how much you get approved for. I’ll go get mine later on. I see it has a garage to sleep at night in 👍🏽 enjoy the car!

Appreciate you posting this, hoping by the time I’m looking for one it’s not as nuts but the info is gold. Hope you love it

Hey brother, this vid helped me a lot. I was able to find 5k over msrp at a few places, but none were my first choice of color. I was finally able to find a championship white for 6k over, which was a grand over my limit, but to find a white one for 5k over was hard. It took me 6 days total of calling many dealers, I'm sure if I was a bit more patient I'd be able to find a white one for 5k over but honestly mentally it's been stressful and just wanted to get it over with. I will say for anyone looking for a specific color, make sure you talk to the sales managers when you call, and try to get an estimate in any color you can for whatever markup you're willing to pay, and use that when you call other dealers and mention right away if they can match or not if you're looking for a specific color like I was. I found 3 different msrp only dealers, the smallest one had a waitlist of 90+ people. I was willing to wait 2 years if I had to but no one could actually guarantee If I would eventually get a car. Thanks again for this vid bro, I'm from MD and it was cool to get someones help from the DMV. I appreciate it!

Love the video, very informative looking forward to seeing more vids

was looking for a FL5 for the past few months in Toronto Canada . there was NONE!~~ came across a DE 5 at MSRP. Got the car and I AM HAPPY

Very informative video and amazing looking car! Congrats!!!

Thank you for sharing this information

Great informative video! Props to your financial literacy as well.

Great purchase and review about the buying process. Amazing car, man! There is def one in my future.

Great insight and you've got your priorities right - house purchase with garage shelter first, then nice car purchase!

Thanks for being honest bro! Love the car!!!

Good tips, and congrats on the car!

Congrats on the car! 🔥

You just got a new subscriber, we need to continue to push financial literacy. Congrats on both purchases.

Good job🔥💯

Beautiful car congratulations!!!

Nice video and cool car bro!

This was good man. I'm gonna wait 2 years for mine.

Awesome video!! That is so awesome!! In February I traded my 2019 FK8 with 15,000 miles on it and bought a black FL5! I was first on the list and had been in it for over a year and was able to get mine for msrp!! I absolutely love the FL5 and wouldn’t want to go back!! Both great cars but I like my FL5 a bit more! Keep up the incredible content! I look forward to more videos! 🚙😀👍🏼

Hey Tin it's STEye. Your vids look pro man! One day I will get my car...

Awesome video, I’m also from nova, put a deposit on a white ITS, hoping for late July delivery

Very well spoken and to the point from a 2021 Type R owner.

4500 markup is good to go, i live in MD and currently have 2021 fk8 boosted blue. It's nice to know the Honda owing mill gives you $6k markup

Sick car bro 😎

love the blue on it

Remember any accessories added the prices are inflated to add a high profit margin which they usually high profit margin in the first place. I know this from being in a commission based retail sales in electronics. One thing management in my job hammered into the sales staff was to sell accessories! Also the interest rate is another way the dealer makes money on a car sales. So your fico score is really what gives you the leverage to getting a good interest rate unless you are buying the car with cash. Also knowing how long a dealer has had a car on their lot. If they have had it for a long period of time then they are more desperate in selling that particular car because the dealer is paying Honda corporation for that car monthly.

I’ve never bought a new car before I wish I knew about that datatrac thing before I bought my fl5. I checked and even now there’s some crazy low rates on there. I think I might even consider refinancing. Im sure if I refinance since it’s used at this point now, it will have to get used rates but one local bank here it said they offer 2 percent at 60 months. It blew my mind. Not sure if that’s a typo or not I’m calling them tomorrow. But regardless there were still good rates in the upper 2’s and 3 percent range on used. I’m deff thinking about it! Thanks for providing us that tool!

When is race day lol, grats on the new car!

Congrats on your FL5 and great information about the financial that you have been purchased it. Mark up and high interest at Honda dealership are crazy to cost $$$ for car payments.

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I feel like buying a brand new car is possibly the worst investment you can make........ UNLESS it is a rare collectible car that will only increase in value through the years. I mean, of course, if it's always been a dream of yours to someday buy a brand new car that you love...... then by all means, if you have the means for it, get it, you only live once as they say. But with that said, I've seen many folks who are living beyond their means just to satisfy their wants and needs, and in the end be a slave to the monthly bills that keeps piling up. I mean, people can spend their money on what they want.... but me, I work hard for my money, I make damn sure it's getting put to good use and not spend frivolously.

DMV represent!

I saw you in Chantilly yesterday!!!

Great content! Thanks. I live in Tysons so I can relate to the markups. Uugh. Where did you end up finding your car? I hope to see you at a gathering. Do you ever make it to Katie’s Cars & Coffee in Great Falls? Congratulations by the way. Enjoy!

you got the new ctr without the uber crazy markups the dealer by my house here in jersey open road honda got a boost bluein and went quickly for 75k damn thats wild

Great video! I was in the market looking for one when they first started rolling into the dealers. I was visiting CALI at the time first reales to get some. Was crazy went to three 20-25k markup on each. And here in Fl it’s still around 10-15k markup. My FOMO died so now I’m just going to wait it out

NIce car id love to know what you do as far as for a living and how your able to afford not only a home but also the type r

I’m not trying discount the color but I noticed dealers are willing to give better prices on boost blue and red. It’s a love it or hate it color so less people are looking for those colors. I called many dealers and a lot of them had blue in stock but others were already taken or they weren’t wanting to discount the grey or white and that could be the reason why the first guy canceled. Thank you for the information.

Not bad, at least we're getting back to sticker price on enthusiast cars slowly but surely, and hopefully. Lot of them hovering around 50k right now. I personally think even 45k for a Civic is pushing it though. You have a lot of options at 50k for a car: a new Z, Supra, Cayman, M2 etc. Hopefully the competition helps stabilize the market.

I got bit by the markup on my boost blue. To be fair I kind of got caught up in the moment and didn't research it well before hand. Dealer said they were willing to negotiate the markup to keep it local, which ended up being only about 2k off. It also had 3k in ceramic coating, PPF and something else already on the car so got stuck with that too. It was a show room model so that was kind of neat. Thats really my only regret with the car.

About to be back in the market for a new car. The type R is really sweet but I’d prefer the more mature Integra Type S this summer.

I got my EXL hatchback from Honda of Chantilly! they were the only ones not asking crazy money a few months ago for base trims and I was able to negotiate them down to a 1.5k markup over the phone. Wish I didn't pay it but I needed a car. They did have a FK8 chillin in the showroom in September which I wish I checked the markup on to compare. Congrats on the FL5!

I’m glad I got mine 8500 mark up I don’t think I lost on my deal and they were super cool and added some stuff on to at least help me feel like the car was worth on that. Best price I could find yeah everyone around me was asking 10K+

Moral of this story, stack your money and get a credit union account to finance through

The Car is very Special,real Performance Car,in Germany/ Car is even more expensive as in the US. And even more rare. Weve in Germany only 130 Cars.

Im from NJ, I travelled to the Poconos, PA and purchased mine at $5,000 over msrp. Honda, at Mahwah, NJ is asking for a $25k msrp and the rest in north jersey are asking between 10-15k markup.

Here in NW Arkansas find one in blue, 45k dealership price, 10-3-23, didn’t buying it, but if one interestebyou can search it theres is like two in white and 1 in blue i wish I could get my hands in one of those 😅

5k is insanely good I’m really tryna get one of these too

Hey what was your place in line at Honda World? I was 5th but I've heard that several people dropped out so I'm trying to figure out where I stand. Also, according to Steve's tracker, they were in the first wave and got a red car. Were you first in line but just didn't get it or something?

kind of a impossible deal,amazing bro congrats

I love the FL5 but I'm getting an Integra Type S for all the amenities and no mark up. I was able to secure one with a 2K deposit from a local dealer.

Went to check out an Si at the local dealership. Had a mark up of 9,999 for a grand total of 39,999

You are so lucky bro I currently work for a Honda dealership our markup on our type r is 20 grand bro your lucky 🍀 70k

thanks for information. Really hate reseller and hope Honda just mark up the price or just simply make more

Nova gang 💪, we do have some of the worst stealerships in the country here because the people don’t care enough to shop around and just pay the premium.

Holy!! $48k….that’s expensive but then I understand that Type R is highly sought after

Good job

I just bought my house, we just finished paying off our wedding, just a few more weeks til I purchase an FK8

Looked at a boost blue CTR in Davis, CA. They wanted $30k over msrp. Told them I would buy at $5k over msrp but at over $70k+ thats GTR money. Told them it's nice but it's not $70k+ nice.

Looking to trade in the STI for the new Type R. Best I’ve gotten was $5k mark up. But no Type R in sight. Any recommendations. Located in GA

Ay, Euclid Ohio!

Nice advice on buying. You did well at a $4500 mark-up. Did you have to pay for shipping from the out of state dealership to your home? The shipping costs plus the interest costs on the loan should also be added to your total cost for the car.

Would you happen to know if there gonna be making a 2024 type r or is the 2023 last of its kind?

Good thinking What's your car number on dashboard?

I think it also depends on the color of the car. A championship white color would be a lot harder to get closer to msrp than any different color just due to demand

50,000$ for civic type R

Last November I just bought my 22 hatchback sport boost blue for 32k as my very first car. The original price was 37k but at the end it was worth it because i own my car for 5 months now. I felt super happy with my boost blue sport but some of my co workers think it's a fl5 lol.

I also seen that map tracker of type r

Shout out to nfcu got my 2020 si in 2020 with them 2.1 apr. Over 60 months

That debt thing hit hard. Making around 60-70k and buying a type r for around 50k doesn't seem worth it. If you don't mind me asking, what you do for a living?

any suggestion if I can buy one from Vancouver? thx

I bought a 718 spyder at MSRP and that car was built to spec. There is not a chance in hell I would pay over list for a type R or any honda.

Hi, what is a good out of the dealer price for the civic type R?

I got my 2023 Civic Type R at sticker no dealer mark up period

In Puerto Rico the price is 65K 🥲

I own a 2023 Integra for MSRP but I’m gunning for a new Civic Type R or a new Integra Type S as 200HP just isn’t enough. However, I will not do more than 4-6% interest and 10% markup.

CivicXI is where dreams go to die 😂 got 2 of my FL5s for MSRP easily

Did you pay the sales tax in Ohio or Virginia?

You are lucky to get that price.

So your telling me you only paid off 49k then whats the charge for your tax? Registration? That should comes up all the way 54k plus apr on your loan?

Why do we even need a middle man to buy a car for msrp can't I just buy the car from the manufacturer and have it delivered etc honda and all the car manufacturers need to come together and just Crack down or eliminate dealers that's bad for the brand and uts tough out there peoples hard earned money is being ripped legally 😳

So 36 months Im assuming your monthly payments are pretty close to 1000+ a month?

Tbh your car is still cheaper than a UK car if you can get one over here there's a mark up due to scarcity and they are close to 50k Stirling

5k ain’t to bad on ctr’s depending on the resale. If you were to sell this car with like 2-5k miles.. how much can you get?

If a brand new 23 Supra 3.0 premium manual is offered similar price as type-r, would you buy a Type-R or Supra? I'd like to know people's thoughts on this.

Not really related to the video but I’ve been paying 30% on a $4600 for a year it’s been… a ride fs

The FEES. Very important for anyone to go and waste your time. They will surprise you with 5k in dealer fees for b.s that he explaimed, 2k for nitrogen fill ups lol ..youd be surprised at their dumb fees

Fuck dealer mark up is insane. I remember buying my evo x for 36k otd the dealer didnt even out no mark up on it cause they felt bad i flew from sf to la to pick it up.

Cars are cool but Dealers suck make the car buying experience horrible. I have to remember the Brand shouldn't be reflected by a Dealership.

Ok I appreciate the review and congrats on your Type R…. However I need to say I hope you didn’t pay much over MSRP for a Honda Civic (Type R or not). $45k plus you can get a much better car, or a decent down payment on an entry level Porsche pre-owned. You do realize you oissed away anything over MSRP ($7k? $12k? Shit dude…) So how much did you put down? How much is your car note? Do you own or rent your home? Do you have responsibilities like a family? What do you do for a living? How’s your income to debt ratio? I take it you live in California. I ask because I see many young guys (RU-vidrs) posting reviews of Type R’s yet I see them living in a town home or apartments with young children. Yes it’s fun to drive a Type R but really responsibilities should take priority over your superficial needs. I’m mean it’s your money, do as you please but living on maxed out credit and owning/financing a vehicle that takes up more than 50% of your net income is not a wise decision.

51k out the door. Whats sale tax there? Or any?

I will say, one thing that sucks about this approach. Those of us that actually live in the Midwest can’t get them because everyone has used the tracker and buys them all over the country

Help me make a deal on one my local dealer is asking 13k over

If I can get one for 5 over I’m getting it 100%.

i had a dealer try to sell me on no markups, but 10k for mandatory accessories........they were all the basic accessories you can add online too which was absurd 😂

Rolling in dough you pay almost 1500 a month for 36 mos you rolling in it man

When are you posting tricking content ⁉️

Fucc..in San Diego. Can’t get msrp cash