My 4 favorite envelope generators - which is best for you!? 

Hello everyone! After I did two videos about envelope basics I wanted to share a few really different approaches to envelope generators :) Affiliate links: Perfect Circuit - US - bit.ly/3Yn0Gll Sound of You - EU bit.ly/3DzdFYi Clockface - AS - bit.ly/3YkDJ1B

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Nice video. My first and favorite is the unique Shakmat Triple Steeple. Adjusting total envelope cycle time with one knob, and rise/fall symmetry with another is a very performance-oriented and intuitive approach!

I recently picked up Fourmative Contours by Vermona, which arrives tomorrow. Can’t wait to try it out. Vermona is my overall favorite Eurorack producer - their modules just have a certain touch that really nothing else has, for me. The knobs are also just something else.

Zadar is one od my favourite modules, and I'm so glad that modulargrid community proposed it instead simple ADSR module

I love the Nano Quart. It was one of the first modules I bought and it's in every patch I make.

I have tried out many env-gens and stayed with the Instruo Céis. I sport that fun module 3 times and like to chain them easily with their stage-gates. Another good tool is Metabolic Devices Moonwalker although it is not versatile in the classic sense.

An interesting option in the "DADSR" space is the WMD multimode envelope, which has lots of options. The expander adds trigger outs and heaps of CV control. Discontinued, but not that hard to find for now.

Besides how functional and experimental Zadar can be it’s real strength is how easy it is to use.

I recently felt the need for more envelopes because I have too many VCAs ;) and definitely considered all of these. I chose the ADDAC506. Your detailed examination if it helped a lot, thanks.

Cosmotronic Delta-V and After Later Audio QARV are my favs. Love function generators with built in VCAs.

Great video! I acquired the TipTop Buchla 281t Quad Function generator as my first envelope generator. While perhaps a little large, it's a great module for envelopes and LFO's, with CV control over AD!

thank you thank you thank you... I think you deserve a lot of words for your effort making amazing tutorials... endless knowledge here.. you are it

I went away for 6 months, and had to cut a chunk of my modular so it could travel. I left maths behind, and, coming back, that is coming with me wherever I go, the envelopes sound really good and it is ultra quick to dial in settings.

quadigy from klavis is insane can do from simple ADSR or some more complex shapes with many control on it!

Being somewhat new to modular, I was eyeing lots of options. Function Junction seemed like the most capability for the least amount of cash as it has LFO, 2 envelopes, and a mixer. Then I discovered Vortex Generator. There is a really good demo on it on here. I watched it many times in order to fully understand how it is used as the concept of using envelopes as VCOs was a real break through for patching ideas to me. At 140 dollars, or so, and only 10hp, it suited my small rack very well. It is my must have module along with the Tom Evans Dual Dreadful VCF.

I really love my Double Andore mk2 There is No Envelope / Vca as playable and as versatile So many possibilities While Maths is close but a completely different beast Great Video as always

Thanks again for your good content! BTW i am using an (surprisingly) fantastic TipTop Audio Z4000 VC-EG (1. Series) which i found used for a bargain price. And lately i added an Expert Sleepers Disting MK4 for (an awful lot of) functions.

Informative and great vid as usual! I love my Maths and Zadar, but I could really use a simple envelope generator like Quart when I'll be upgrading my rack to double it's size, especially with the LFO option. Also, with the Nin expander, you get even more out of that Zadar, really worth looking at!

great timing! was just looking for an envelope generator module. Thanks!

This was very educational and helpful for me. Thank you!

This video comes right in time, but gives me more options than I would care to buy hahaha, thanks again man!

Nano Quart is a really solid recommendation. For price and size the Rides in the Storm FEG gets you a single loopable ADSR, and you can get two or three of them for the price of the Quart. (but I would still rather have 4 AR/AD in 10hp than three ADSR in 12hp). Clones of Mutable Instruments Peaks are very interesting envelopes. It's the same idea as your Zadar suggestion. In the envelope mode, you get two envelopes with either shared ADSR settings or independent AD/AR. Some of the clones fit into 4HP. And other clones have CV controls for the parameters. With the Dead Man's Catch firmware (easy to install) you get some really wild envelopes. Like double Attack-Decay or repeating AD as long as gate is held. A uPique is roughly the same price as a Nano Quart, so quite affordable. Also makes a good tap LFO. After Later Audio Tilt is one function generator in 6 HP. It's affordable but not super compact. Like ALM's Pip Slope it is inspired by Serge slope generator. Tilt is a pretty versatile function generator that happens to have a mode that makes it an envelope (a type of ASR envelope), but it also works as a slew limiter or as an LFO. And my absolute favorite is to use no envelope generator at all. A low-pass gate (LPG) can give you a plucky sounding fixed attack/release and replaces both your EG and VCA. Takaab makes LPGv2 which is cheap, tiny, passive, and has a switch to change the low pass cut-off frequency making it work as a simple filter or EQ.

Falistri has the quadrant multiplier which is my favourite part. So much helpful video, Thank you so much :))

I hope Nano Modules will, some day, make a Quart v2 where the four functions can be switched between AD/LFO and A(S)R/GATE modes. Then it would be perfect.

thank you, i needed this!

You should check out the 4ms Dual Shaped EnvVCA. It reminds me a lot of Maths, but with some added features. I love it!

Nice video ❤️

The Befaco Rampage is a nice dual function generator. Inexpensive enough that I have two.

Great video thanks!. What would you recommend for an "affordable" ADSR with cv control over the stages with one requirement only, that it´s SUPER fast aka punchy & snappy. Used Cwejmans are unfortunately out of my price range. 🙏

Having grown out the Dreadbox Ataxia (main gripe is the lack of memory for 2nd channel after power cycling) I have been looking at the Shakmat Triple Steeple. Would like to see a video about this module. I believe that it has a unique take on EGs

IMHO the TipTop/Buchla 281T Quad Function Generator deserves mentioned here. Sure it takes up HP, but it's cheap as hell, has full CV control over parameters, loops, end of cycle gate, attenuation, and quadrature. I think it's something like $190 right now.

Monotrail, have you used the Quadrax at all? The points are fair that the price and size increase over Quadra are a turnoff, but I’m curious on your take with the module. It’s possibly one of my favorites in my system.

Zadar is rad but sometimes you need an analogue envelope with cv over decay of course .

A really nice comparison. What many beginners usually underestimate is how important envelopes (and other utilities) really are in a modular system. That's why this was probably a very important video for fans of these audiophile experiences. Very nice that a descendant of the MI Stages also made an appearance. Emily's work in the modular sector can never be sufficiently honoured.

Would love to see your amazing explanations on the arbhar and lubadh! Despite all the videos, yours are the most clear and would really help with these two modules :)

L-1 VC Dual ADSR. :P

how about Quadrax？is it a envlope generator？

I dont know why, but your hand movements ist kinda annoying.