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My biggest motor test yet!: The best motors for Ultralights, Cinewhoops and Freestyle! 

Chris Rosser
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:36 Tuning Guide
1:08 Huge variety!
2:17 Test equipment
3:50 Measured KV
5:24 Test props and motor categories
6:40 Max Thrust and Thrust to Weight Ratio
9:35 Efficiency
13:57 Response
18:36 Get the raw data
18:50 Recommendations
19:00 Ultralight 5"
20:31 6S Cinewhoop 3.5"
22:00 4S Cinewhoop 3.5"
23:27 3.5-4" Freestyle/LR
24:58 Outro

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Комментарии : 58   
@thefreezezone4583
@thefreezezone4583 Месяц назад
YES YES AND YES......the one I personally been waiting for :)
@adloman
@adloman Месяц назад
Fantastic! I have been looking forward to this one. Thank you!
@mouahrewam
@mouahrewam 16 дней назад
Very good review ! Cheer man appreciate ❤
@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench
@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench Месяц назад
Out of all the motors I have tested , I still go back to Tiger, for a light efficient 5inch the Tiger 2203.5 is a clear winner. I am able to get 55 minutes with a 4s 21700. I was so hoping you were going to test this motor ;-). maybe next time.. Cheers!!!!!
@TheCANhunter
@TheCANhunter Месяц назад
Wow can you post a video of your build?
@ahn_math
@ahn_math Месяц назад
Great video~
@westwingaero
@westwingaero Месяц назад
amazing video, great explanations and clarity on motor choices. It’s even better when your results match some of my other fluke choices 🤣😂🤣
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 Месяц назад
I've been in love with amax 2005 2200kv motors on 6S. Just love the 2005 size. Wish rcinpower would make a 2105.5 2150kv motor with 5mm shaft. Would be perfect for 4" freestyle or 3.5" 6s cinewhoop
@ronboFPV
@ronboFPV Месяц назад
Thanks!
@koinmove
@koinmove Месяц назад
great test and thanks. difficult to find this kind of video. wish you will have a video to test smaller drone motors. example 2 inch 4s motors (12xx to 13xx maybe?)
@jawz101_fpv7
@jawz101_fpv7 Месяц назад
This is so cool. Hopefully a tiny whoop test to cap it all off. The smaller you go the more I think you'll be able to find some variety and ideas for optimization. I recently built on an AOS 3.5v5 frame and used RCinpower Smoox Plus 1404 3850kv motors (9 grams ea.) paired with HQProp T3.5X2.5X3 propellers & using 4s batteries. I have no idea if this was optimal but it'd be nice to hear what you think, @ChrisRosser. I'm also curious if you'll find optimal settings for ESCs with these smaller motors as well.
@nikotttin
@nikotttin Месяц назад
Hi Chris, AMAZING testing! Thanks!!! At 12:21 you made a small "typo" talking about 4 inch instead of 4s ;) What would be interesting is to look for a smaller than 2004 motor to drive 5 inch 2 bladed props to.bring the ultralight weight down a notch. Do you foresee any motor? I Reckon it's very specific....
@Voyajer.
@Voyajer. Месяц назад
I would have liked to see the Ummagawd Aerolite 1605 3600KV Motor
@nateteator3901
@nateteator3901 Месяц назад
Thanks for all the testing. I've purchased your AOS 2207 and 2807 motors. The spec sheet shows that the 5 inch motor draws almost 50% more watts than the 7 inch motor at full throttle. I figured spinning a bigger prop meant the motor was doing more work. Can you explain why the 5 inch motor was drawing 60 amps and the much larger motor was only drawing 38 amps?
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 Месяц назад
That 2807 spec sheet has wrong data for the amp draw. It makes like 2800g of max thrust and claims to draw only like 38A max. If you compare that to rcinpowers 2809 motor on same prop, then it draws much much more amp for the same thrust. Both motors are rcinpower and it can't be that the aos 2807 perform a miracle efficiency. I work with these thrust charts and just believe me
@mikybaga9762
@mikybaga9762 Месяц назад
Hi, what motor would you recommend for the fastest direction reversal? Iflight 2207 are not fast enough for a custom mixer craft that I'm PID tuning. Thanks!
@kaygeebee1962
@kaygeebee1962 Месяц назад
Chris, is there a UK stockist of the AOS 4 evo frame?
@alainassaf
@alainassaf Месяц назад
great video as always. I wish there was more explanation on why the kv determined the prop category. It does not mention why none of the motors tested are suitable for 4S 5" ultralight, or why 6s is not suitable for 3.5" freestyle. Apart from that I find it really annoying that manufacturers don't publish the correct KV and your work is very valuable to help us better chose.
@seangordonrichards
@seangordonrichards Месяц назад
I too was hoping for more insight into 4s 5" quad motors
@Mojohoojo187
@Mojohoojo187 Месяц назад
Can I use this test for deciding 3” built? I know Chris have a 3” inch test video just wondering if this is applicable for 3” as well
@RindosRides
@RindosRides Месяц назад
Surprised the aerolite 2004 wasnt on the list. My favorite quad, the 2fiddys default motor.
@martinfpv5
@martinfpv5 Месяц назад
Would be interested about the Rushfpv 2505.5 and Stanfpv 2604 (made by t-motor).
@modquad18
@modquad18 Месяц назад
Strong Work Emax 💪🏽 Probably the least expensive too.
@breakalegfpv9532
@breakalegfpv9532 Месяц назад
racer star was my first set.
@rubberonasphalt
@rubberonasphalt Месяц назад
@21:12 I'm out of the loop, whats wrong with BetaFPV?
@runpuppyfpv5744
@runpuppyfpv5744 Месяц назад
Mr.rosser they no longer sell the fpv cycle 21mm motors ! I know because my favorite quad is sitting on the shelf with a damaged motor !
@donphobos
@donphobos Месяц назад
Oh!!!! XNOVA even, exciting.
@camdynkellett6782
@camdynkellett6782 Месяц назад
Thanks chris for yet another great test video, although most of these motors don't fit my use case it's still really interesting to learn about them! Question for anyone: I'm having trouble with my Skystars KM55A AM32 esc, set up exactly the same way I have set up all my BL Heli stacks but displaying very wierd behaviour in BF (Esc alarm stays on with Dshot Beacon set to off on default settings, also motor direction wizard makes the ESC restart when changing motor direction). I've attempted to update AM32 to latest (1.99) but esc configurator webapp fails to find the download using the online feature, but also fails to flash the (triple checked) correct target hex file downloaded from the am32 repo... I've never seen behaviour like this before and I could only know about the ESC alarm after soldering (which is usually the point where the warranty stops). Hopefully I can find a solution!
@camdynkellett6782
@camdynkellett6782 Месяц назад
Also if anyone has info on where I can find some sort of AM32 discord or support group that would be legendary!! (ps for BF configurator I previously used 10.9 but uninstalled and updated to 10.10 official within the hour of release)
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 Месяц назад
​@@camdynkellett6782 my advice you might not want to hear. Just get a new esc. There are good budget ones out there and you save a lot of time and trouble. But you can go through the experience of many hours trying to fix and maybe some crashes due to faulty ESC that costs you more time and money. Ask me how i know
@camdynkellett6782
@camdynkellett6782 Месяц назад
@@chrisbee5481 I appreciate your advice, it's a bummer for me because It was the only option for a 20x20 stack in my country and currently still is. I need a 20x20 for my Shendrones Hydrophobe frame. I've spent enough time now, I'm buying a replacement ESC to see if mine is faulty, and if it solves the probelm I hope that Skystars provides some sort of support, unlikely but we'll see.
@luis_gbs
@luis_gbs Месяц назад
What happened to the 1404 motor recomendation for 3.5“ freestyle? 😮
@strykerfpv
@strykerfpv Месяц назад
too small, too little torque for that size
@VincentFPV
@VincentFPV Месяц назад
Great test. Pity that you have not tested even more different sizes. Because for 4" freestyle I have tried more options: (2004 3000KV, 1804 3500KV, 1505 3750KV, 1404 2600KV). For me the results are 2004 -> the smoothest precision flight, 1804 -> Great freestyle but mechanically prone to be damaged by hit because of large diameter, 1505-> Extraordinary power for freestyle, robust but took the most amps on punch (but I stayed with them), 1404 great efficiency for long range. All of them flyable on 850mAh 4S. ' But there is no scientific testing from me and I hoped I would see it here. So I look forward for another tests. Love your videos. :)
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 Месяц назад
If 4S try 3000kv amax 2005 motors with HQ 4x3x3V2. Also tested what you did and even more. Also every prop on the market. But Personally I landed on 2200kv 2005 on 6s 650mah
@VincentFPV
@VincentFPV Месяц назад
@@chrisbee5481 I think it's often a personal preference. And mine is a bit strange because I prefer to fly with GF4024 2 -blade props. :D
@JuicySmullietFPV
@JuicySmullietFPV Месяц назад
So the EMax Eco II 2004 3000kv is looking pretty nice at $13USD/each.
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 Месяц назад
I had the emax 2004 2400kv motors and they were twitching ans runing hot. Tried it on two different builds. Same problem. Even tried them Single just to test. Totally bad. Maybe I was just unlucky, but I'd keep away. Although my emax 2807 and 1404 are still running strong
@JuicySmullietFPV
@JuicySmullietFPV Месяц назад
@@chrisbee5481 I’ve run these motors on an AOS3.5 and currently have them on my Quadmula F35s and absolutely LOVE them. My only complaints would be the 1.5mm shaft breaking but then again these are freestyle rigs so there’s obvious abuse on my part. I’m sorry to hear you had a poor experience. Mind has been so pleasant that I even bought their 2807 1300kv motors for my 7” build. Great motors there also!
@tesaurus_rex5053
@tesaurus_rex5053 Месяц назад
Im running the ecoII 2004 3000kv on my 3" 6s build and it's awesome. Served me well so far
@Positive_Altitude
@Positive_Altitude 2 дня назад
But what if it is not an actual KV lower than the one stated by the manufacturer, but rather just a bad/low-quality bearing? You know that this method of measuring KV is not very correct. Good job btw!
@dcabecao9357
@dcabecao9357 Месяц назад
Can we stop with the flat pancake motors already? A 1507 motor has on par responsiveness to a 2105.5 motor which is a whopping 50% larger. Unless your application can't keep a 1507 motor cool for some bizarre reason this is just crazy. Its time we get those tall stator gains across the board already!
@strykerfpv
@strykerfpv Месяц назад
bro, they overheat instantly. unusable for racing and pretty likeley to overheat for freestyle
@dcabecao9357
@dcabecao9357 Месяц назад
@@strykerfpv I still have a Diatone GTR349 with 1408 motors, perfectly fine for freestyle with ridiculous amounts of power for punch-outs. I'll grant you I never tried racing with it, maybe I should I think it would work fine. Could be a MultiGP qualifying racer would be overheating these and in that case sure, but I have a strong feeling people talk crap about these tall motors for no real reason other than the cream of the crop of pilots need a bit flatter motors
@richardheedfpv9626
@richardheedfpv9626 Месяц назад
Agreed
@richardheedfpv9626
@richardheedfpv9626 Месяц назад
1408, 1507, 1506, 1606. I hammer all these motors with 3,3.5,4 and 5125 props. I have never had one even look like overheating and they all beat the 2004.
@volkergoe
@volkergoe Месяц назад
Yes - wide stators are a waste of torque. Overheating is barely an issue unless you f up the tune.
@nateteator3901
@nateteator3901 Месяц назад
Most of these motors are too heavy on a sub 250 build. Brother Hobby 1504.5 is a good balance for sub 250g with GF3630 props. (Any stator volume around 800-1000mm^3)
@strykerfpv
@strykerfpv Месяц назад
true, for sub250 you would be better off with something like the tmotor pacer p1604. brotherhobby performs better than the tmotor but the brotherhobby is not durable at all so pick your poison.
@heavenxnorxhell7531
@heavenxnorxhell7531 Месяц назад
First
@theringoffire3228
@theringoffire3228 Месяц назад
I recommend not believing Chris rosser about motors because I've heard he lies about the data to make his motors seem better just so they will sell more 😢
@strykerfpv
@strykerfpv Месяц назад
not really, people say his motors are only better because he lied about the size but they are only a small amount larger, closer to a 2308 than 2207 and still keep less weight than most 2306 motors, so they really are innovative
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