Old guy here. There was a book called “why business people speak like idiots “. The hope was that if we called this out enough people would recognize it and end the cycle. Fast forward 25 years and LinkedIn has only made it worse. I find myself reading mission statements of companies still having no idea what they do. And I’m part of the problem. I have “t shaped” and “servant leader “ in my bio. I hate it and disappointed in myself for doing it. But I have to put two kids through school and pay my bills.
Like, you really don’t. They can pay for school themselves. Where does the “I MUST PAY FOR MY CHILD’S ENTIRE EDUCATION.” attitude come from? You don’t. If you want to pay for private primary/secondary school because you don’t trust public, fair enough, but shouldn’t adult students be responsible for their own bills?
@@Vapourwear They may be adults in the chronological sense but they are still not producing significant income while they are students. I’m seeking to give my children every advantage I can until they are gainfully employed. Your parenting philosophy may be different assuming you are even a parent
I think you really cool! You give lots of different types examples in your videos which is important bc not all people are taught the same way or one way. Your ideas to give back to your subs are fun and beneficial to all participants. Hopefully one day soon your channel blows up and your able to do more with it. Keep grinding 💯
Thanks man, means a lot. Most of the educational content I make today is what I wish I had when I started. And it seems to help a lot of people which is nice!
Mikael Abehsera I totally agree and it’s a perfect fit for someone like me who wants to dive into new things like cinematography, coding, etc... and do more before dumping unnecessary amount of cash into something’s I’m not even sure about. Its just hard atm bc even thought I have such a high interests in most of these I’m not able to buy a computer yet to actual invest my time in. But your RU-vid videos help me out a whole lot. Hats off to you sir, I aspire to make videos as good as you one day lol
There's a good reason Bootcamps teach Ruby. Rails is used frequently in startups because you can hit the ground running lightning fast with it, and once the company is sold, they can worry about refactoring it to another technology. Startups are usually more flexible too when it comes to hiring bootcamp grads. It's not a dated thing to learn, and it's niche enough where there's good job security.
Its just not worth it, your walking into the field with such a niche skill and since it does so much on its own its hard to learn whats really going on, making your foundation weak. No hate ruby was fun, rails can eat it tho
@@MikaelAbehsera I just feel like the fact that you get to present your final project to a bunch of employers at the end. That itself is a major benefit of going through a bootcamp vs self learning. Would you agree?
@@MrJeffreycao TO be honest, not really. For the sole reason that most ofg the employeers gave shitty offers that took advantage of bootcamp grads and some considered us as interns. THe best jobs any of us found was out the bootcamp. But never the less it was a nice backup.
@@MikaelAbehsera oh wow really, making me reconsider haha. I was already able to learn html, css, js, and react to a decent level do you think I should just keep on hacking away at it myself then?
@@MrJeffreycao if you got to react definitely consider not doing it since the first 3 weeks are pretty much recap amd basics, then databases and then react
Found your video while searching for Lighthouse Labs reviews. Great info! I'm actually switching careers from media production(videography/photography) to web development.
Nice! the video/photo industry and programming industry work together often so thats a great skill to have. thanks for letting me know the goal was to pop up when people searched for the bootcamp and if they should go
Thanks for the honest review! I'm currently looking at some bootcamps, LHL included. I am in Toronto so hoping I can possibly start sometime before the year ends! Just a bit worried about the whole remote aspect nowadays as I have extreme difficulty focusing at home and when I study, I tend to go to a cafe. I've learned the basics of html/css/js/node and other things like mongo/mySQL etc but I think I fell into the "tutorial hell" where I've done SO MANY online tutorials and was exposed to so many different things but when I stop and sit down to work on something myself, I am left blank. Hence why I am considering a Bootcamp!
Nice, I made a video about how I got a job in 6 months and I talked about a strategy I used to learn a lot in a short amount of time, that might help. When it comes to being distracted you just have to find an environment where you can focus, personally, its loud music, fan blowing air in my face, and all the lights off. For some its the local library or like you said a coffee shop. LHL does node I think week 3? so your pretty much gonna pay for 8-9 weeks out of the 12. Depending on how much time you have It sounds like you can continue from here on your own you just need to adjust your environment. I think I saw you join in discord so feel free to hit me up there the others are helpful too!
But that's the issue with everyone while learning, you can learn the syntax no issue, but when you try to work on a project your mind goes blank, how would bootcamp help?
@@MikaelAbehsera Entering week 4 tomorrow. So far so good. The learning curve has been steep, as expected, but I'm making valuable connections with mentors and fellow students. Comparing the code I'm writing now to the code I wrote just 5 weeks ago when preparing for the course, it's astounding how far I've come in such a short time, and I'm grateful to LHL for that. As you said in the video, what you get out of it is definitely tied to what you put into it. I'll be in touch again toward the end of the program, and after graduation.
Great information. Thanks for making this video, Mikael. Would you recommend Intro to Data Analytics? I wish to know if they provide the same kind of employment support for part-time course.
I liked the honesty in this video! I would really like to know how you kept yourself sane during such long days? I'm thinking of applying to LHL as well.
Not that it's a good or mentally healthy thing, but the fear of not having a job, with the possibility of getting kicked out, feared and motivated me to work +12 hours a day for that extended time. The healthier alternative would be structuring time so that you don't fall behind
Have you started your journey? How is it with covid going on? I am looking to apply at LHL in Toronto so hoping to get some insider info! I'm just worried that it will be fully remote as I have a hard time focusing at home and if I had to go to a cafe everyday and spend 12 hours there that would be so much $$$ lol
The only useful info I took out of bootcamps is that they are trash. Any info that you could study online you SHOULD study online on your own. HR's hate hiring bootcamp students as they don't see the value of a person who spent money on something you can learn for free. Not only this person signalizes they cannot do simple study and organize themselves but also they will be way less motivated to learn something new once they got it into the industry. While the boi who learned it himself will catch up on his own, the bootcamp boi would sit there waiting for new tutorial or online class to be provided for that new technology. So if you took bootcamp as I did try to hide it from potential employer or at least have tons of your own projects so you don't appear lazy and unmotivated who jumped into IT just for money.
@@MikaelAbehsera you can still find help online as there is nothing that you face that nobody ever faced before. In fact when you're working you WILL face some problems that no one of your peer knows about so you have to problem solve even before you get in the field. There is absolutely no reason for bootcamps. If you don't know anything about programming then you simply don't like it enough. No teacher will teach you on how to love computers and strive to learn about them to the extend when you google it on your own and spend your personal time doing the code. And if you're that person then what could possibly they teach you on 8-12 month course that you don't know yourself already? I built ecomerce website from zero on three months on my spare time just by googling, troubleshooting and watching youtube, what can possibly those people teach you? Like, telling people you finished bootcamp is like telling them you're bad with money and don't know what you want.
Thank you for the video. I'm also from Montreal and have been contemplating on whether going to Lighthouse Labs' bootcamp curriculum. I've tried from time and time again to pick up coding on my own, using the resources online, but sadly I lacked the motivation to keep going towards the courses and what not, and so, I sought a bootcamp to raise my will to code. Do you think it's worth it going for the 1500 CAD part-time course (I work full time) that they offer: "Intro to Javascript"?
Hey I don't think it is for the reason thats its very beginner level and you could learn it on your own pretty easily (assuming you have the discipline)
I have been a VI/VIM fan since my Unix days but I can understand why some don’t like it. A couple of my coworkers loved emacs but I didn’t think it was necessary to learn both VI and emacs.
If you have never been to college before then you should go to college. The majority of people who go to bootcamp and actually have success already have degrees in related fields. also bootcamp really just teaches front end web dev, going to college you can do much more.
Don't agree with above comment, College will not teach you, it will give you content, you choose what you want to learn and what you want to pull out of it, bootcamp is similar but more hands on, has more relevant information and it gets you started in the industry much faster. I still don't recommend either and would rather tell someone to try and do both hands on work, and finding good learning content on their own since they'll be doing that on the job :)
@@MikaelAbehsera College gives you the math that you will need to do very high level computer science. I agree, if you want to do web development, do coding boot camp. If you want to do recursive learning in C++, you will need atleast a masters. If you can find me a coding bootcamp that can teach you how to do recursive learning aswell as the linear algebra/calculas you need to do that, point me to it and I will drop out of college today.
@@blackfalcon1324 college will not give you anything other then huge debt, dont confuse education with traditional schooling, it's all about what you pull out of the experience
@@MikaelAbehsera I think it depends on the school you go to. I go to a state school with a 2,500 a term tuition, which is covered 100% by my pell grant. But, like I said, it depends on what you want to do. There are a dozen different branches of computer science and not all of them can be learned at a bootcamp.
Hey man great video I am currently going to college for programming analyst. I will have next summer off I want to have a good employable resume. Would you suggest bootcamp during summer time when you have 4months break thx.
Questioning everything either means you're having trouble with the curriculum or some genius like Einstein... either way, if you're dragging down the class and not getting what you're supposed to out of it, it's on you to adjust or learn it another way.
Questioning everything is ok, you paid for the service like everyone else and deserve that time, of course if your super behind, where you and they (LHL) make the call, it might beneficial for you to come back next term and take this time to prep better.
Hey just curious, do you find that the program did help you find employment at least? I hear a lot of bootcamps aren't necessarily teaching stuff that you can't get from Udemy courses, that being said, I figured if you don't have any sort of degree, it's probably very helpful to have a bootcamp on your resume rather than to try and land a job being 100% self taught. Most of the complaints I see about Lighthouse labs are about them making the false claim that you don't need any programming experience and a lot of people say you should really have the fundamentals down and at the very least be somewhat familiar with React, Node, and SQL so that you're not seeing it for the first time. I just wonder if it's still a good choice for me, so long as I make sure I'm very prepared and am almost using the program to better ingrain what i already know so that I'm totally prepared for the work force when i complete it, rather than having to possibly do a fair bit of self study still afterwards to feel comfortable landing a job.
Having the bootcamp on my name meant literally nothing, especially one thats somewhat unknown like lighthouse labs. Often at job interviews they asked me what the hell is a code bootcamp and pretty much ignored it once they saw it didn't give me a degree. But they didn't push me away for not having one, they just passed on to the more important parts of my resume like my projects the directly prove my theoretical and practical knowledge, and from there they can further test you using a code test or wtv. When I went to bootcamp I had very little knowledge about code in general just played around with it and made some mini projects. They do have a precourse but its REALLY basic. IMO if someone can get some familiarity with any of those (React, Node, and SQL) they should avoid going to bootcamp and give a serious try at going solo. If you got more questions or want to ask me or others more questions feel free to join the discord discord.gg/GygvSdf
What do you recommend for people who are trying to get into this industry but don't have the time for a CS degree because they are older and switching careers, thanks!
I would recommend learning on your own, either at work (if you can hide it), or at home after work. Make yourself a goal, for example: build a website for sports statistics, and figure out whats needed to make it as you learn, for example: start with javascript, then learn some libraries, then learn how to make a data base, then learn to put it all together and boom you are now a webdev! Thats an example but thats how I would recommend doing whatever you wanna learn. Also, best thing you can do without a degree (and with) is prove your knowledge through projects that display skills a job wants to see, so if a company wants X programming language, learn that, make a project with it, and then put that on your resume. Hope that helps!
Hey, yeah it was a decent jump since I have never done any mobile dev before and a very slight amount of react. But after that first time it was super easy, things started to fall in place quickly.
@@MikaelAbehsera That's awesome. Right now I use React for every project that's not super small, but for that jump I was debating if it was worth it trying to experiment with flutter.. This next project I think would make sense with a native app, so I'll start that in a week. Wish me luck.
If the company behind the Bootcamp is publicly traded on the stock market then it means that Bootcamp is about making money....NOT....about educating you and making sure you know how to solve software problems. Pay attention to 5:20 mins into this video. The "copy paste and theme it to the Bootcamp" thing is REAL. Skip Ruby go to Python. Skip Rails do Django.
I did not have any experience before bootcamp but a lot of people did, but they do make you take this mini pre bootcamp course to get everyone to the same level
I work a full time job...2 days on 2 days off. Will the LHL work for me? Are the classes recorded just in case I miss something and wanna go back to it later?
it different nowadays, but unless you do part time they expect full participation, you cant really miss a single day when its only 11 weeks long, its an "Intensive" course so no you cant really be on and off. But part time could work, even though I still do recommend people to try it out alone before paying a lot of money
@@MikaelAbehsera my work schedule is 8am to 8pm ...2 days on 2 days off...so how many hours is the full time cyber bootcamp per day? Also would I be able participate in the bootcamp with my phone? During my work days or laptop is must?
@@jj-qk2ky call the bootcamp they should know these things, I'm just letting you know that if you cant commit go parttime, and if thats to much make a plan and go at it alone when you can
Hey, I’m brand new to all of this and I live in the U.K. Can I realistically learn everything I need to from home and get a job without qualifications? And how long do you think this would take? Thank you!
I can't say it will take you x amount of time because there are so many factors affecting that, evennyou couldn't put it into a number. Is it possible to learn it all from home? Ofcourse! Many do it and other then my very short time at this bootcamp I spent lots of time learning on my own at home using sites youtube and other free alternatives.
So the UK is very different. The US and canada have dire shortages of programmers. In the UK, this isnt really the case, mainly due to them doing a better job of teaching programming in schools. I would do some research into it, however you might want to consider going to university as you really need to stand out. This is why, for example, coding jobs in the UK pay about half of what they do in the USA.
@@blackfalcon1324 hey there, are you from Canada? Do you really think that there are plenty of jobs for coding in canada. Thinking of joining a bootcamp but afraid of the debt again after paying my loans for an engineering degree
@@prabhakaranjeyamohan4579 I am not in canada, I am in the USA. However, I have looked into moving to canada and I do know that canada actively seeks immigrants with coding experience. Really the debate between bootcamp and university is misleading. The question isnt which is better but what do you want to do. Do you want to be a web developer? Then bootcamp is probably fine. Do you want to work for Tesla helping to develop their self driving car AI? Id start working on my PhD.
It has become very niche within the languages out there, making it harder for students to find jobs with it, making it some what not practical. But, you can learn how web works with ruby and transfer that to another language. Also, If I was in charge I'd swap ruby for python instantly.
@@MikaelAbehsera I see, thanks. Would you be able to recommend some good links for online tutorials or just stick to RU-vid? I've tried Udemy but it looks like they are selling very old courses as new ones.
Hey Mike thanks for the video Sharing your experience. I watched a video where you and Josh looked at fan portfolios. Just came over to check out your channel, subscribe and I will mos def join your Discord. *Edit* Discord link is expired
Start off learning on your own, for me this free course was amazing but some hate it, once you learn on your own you get a feeling for what you need in terms of outside help (course, mentor, bootcamp, etc)
Please, when you speak to camera, do not twitch about with a pen. It is very distracting. Your background music also has computer-sounding beeps in it that make me think either windows is complaining, or my phone is getting messages. You have good info but it is hard to get to it as your presentation is getting in the way.
Maybe you should have gone to a better boot camp? No one in silicon Valley knows the boot camp you went to. So I'm guessing there are levels to it? Sucks that you got screwed...
