My Changed Kingdom Hearts Opinions 

You're my 149th favourite RU-vidr who has a name called Patrick and is Regular.

It is some massive chad energy, to directly address irrational hate, point out in fine detail why it's irrational, and then double up by lowering it another tier. Nice. Also glad someone else dislikes D3 as much as I did, but can actually put it into words beyond "it doesn't feel right".

i lost all respect for kingdom hearts not bringing their game to steam so i guess disney owns kingdom hearts to such a existent its going to be on epic get ready for 20$ skins and playing as peter griffin thru kingdom hearts 4 that is a fortnite exclusive

Based Opal, common Regular Pat W. Gotta love it when two kings interact 👑👑

Not me scrolling down and seeing this comment as soon as he starts talking about DDD

I would actually love to turn this into a thread for "Proudest Contributions to the Community" thing. That sounds like fun. From fanmade Keyblades to fanfics to support for theories and discussions.

I hope youre having a great day, Jesus the good Lord-God loves you my friends : )

Because it’s way too long and boring

@@ezekielanderson9055 throwing cranberry sauce directly at u

​@@ezekielanderson9055agreed

I don't even like KH2 that much (compared to the rest of the series, I still love the game), but the prologue is the best part of the game and one of the best parts of the entire series.

Because while the story it has is good, the gameplay falls pretty flat

Then you have Luxord, who true to his love for gambling is the wild card in there.

Also the controls for DDD worked a lot better for the 3ds

@@Swordsmen99I still haven't played through all of DDD on 3ds (It and normal COM are the main KH games I have missed) but from what I remember of even the demo version vs the HD version I remember a lot of it feeling better on 3ds.

@@wattsynchronyeah, the lack of touch screen and multiplayer really hurts the rerelease much more than it did BBS

I liked playing DDD a lot more on PS4 than on the 3DS Guess thats a hot take

The game played so good for the ds. Some part are just hard to switch over

The true blame can be found in KH3's dialogue and writing choices. That entire subplot with Anti-Aqua, narratively, should not have happened to begin with. Hence why much of what Anti-Aqua claims happened to her is objectively false, and contradicts Aqua's own characterization even within the same game (see the scene with her and Ansem the Wise before SoD shows up). However, because some people in the community vaguely related to her OOC feelings, they immediately jumped to defend the writing choice, despite it being forced, unearned, and incongruent with the story that actually led up to that point (Ansem SoD even showing up there in the first place is a borderline plot hole, and the timeline of events with him kidnapping Ansem the Wise and going to Twilight Town are so confused that you can only conclude he stuck him a freezer for days before finally dragging him to the mansion). But Anti-Aqua is depressed, therefore she was right to blame Mickey, even if 0.2 explicitly showed us that Aqua knew Mickey didn't have an _inkling_ about where she was up until they reunited (and he saved her life). Nor did she know a decade passed until Mickey himself told her. It's almost like An-A was referencing a completely different series. Apologies if this felt a bit like a rant. Anti-Aqua is.. a weirdly formative moment for me, in that it was so nonsensical it actually sparked my desire to understand what makes for good storytelling. Knowing that it's absurdity caused such a misplaced and deep seeded resentment for Mickey in the fandom just rubs me the wrong way.. 😕

@@DLxxx I mean...she was basically corrupted. Of course she'd say something that's ultimately false based on the mere knowledge that ten years passed on the outside.

​​​​​​​​@@cillbipher2613Right, but what she says is so wholly inaccurate that it's difficult to believe she could ever convince herself of that logic in any way, shape, or form. Aqua threw _herself_ into the Realm of Darkness with no one else around to help. It was her choice to go alone, and Mickey explicitly told her in 0.2 that he didn't know where she was and they'd been looking for her for a long time (even asking how she got there in the first place). He then goes on to say it's been 10 years, which _surprised_ her, since from her POV it hadn't felt nearly that long. Moreover, this established that Mickey only found her AFTER she was there for a decade. She knew this (so he objectively didn't abandon her, because it's physically impossible to abandon someone you don't know you ever lost). He also told her that they didn't have a reliable means of getting into and out of the realm of darkness, and he was forced to go there because of other circumstances. Hence him showing up then and not earlier. In short, there's no possible delusion for Aqua to cling onto that would allow her to believe or feel like Mickey abandoned her. And she herself not only told him to go without her, but in 0.2's ending, BBS' Blank Points, and KH3's flashback scene, we see her explicitly say that she has faith her friends will come for her. And until then, it was her duty to fight and survive so she can be ready for them. She says this, MINUTES before SoD shows up, and he himself says and does nothing that would change her mind. There is no transition. No nuance. She doesn't even know what's _happening_ to herself as she's being "Anti"-fied, and after getting back to Yen Sid's tower, Aqua tells Riku that she never felt like they let her down (after he attempted to apologize). So unless she was literally brainwashed to say those lies to Riku and Mickey, then there's no reason to believe even a corrupted Aqua would act that way. Moreover, it's baffling that Riku and Mickey don't call her out on it, and choose to feel guilty for something they objectively didn't do (which ruins any drama that scene was trying to create, not that it had mandate to exist in the first place). _"You abandoned me in this shadow-y prison for over a decade.."_ _"I only found you, like, a year ago. You didn't even know a decade passed till after I found out you were alive AND saved your life."_ _".... Whatever."_

@@DLxxxI agree with what you say for the most part, but I think the whole Mickey abandonment argument is a little more detailed than you let on. For example, if Mickey was looking for her why was she never once mentioned in those ten years ever in any game to any character? The correct answer is because Aqua was not yet created by Nomura at that time, but thats Nomura’s fault for writing it this way. so even if Mickey didn’t know where Aqua was, even if he didn’t physically abandon her, mentally he definitely did

​​@@saintitchiefWait, what are you talking about? There *WAS NO* Kh game that took place during the 10 years between BBS and KH1, lol (unless you're referring to 0.2, where he explicitly mentions he was looking for her, and asks why she's there, after having just saved her life). Furthermore, he didn't KNOW what happened to her till after those ten years had passed anyway (he's the one who tells _her_ ). Nothing remotely suggests or supports the notion that he abandons her in any way-- ESPECIALLY not from Aqua's POV. But I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant during the year AFTER they reunited (i.e. everything between 0.2 and KH3). Well, first of all, he had _no_ reliable means of getting back into the RoD. The only reason he could in KH1/0.2 is because the world's were falling to darkness (thanks to Maleficent), and Dark Corridors were opening up to the RoD for him to use. This stopped after the worlds were restored. Mickey explained this to Aqua in 0.2. This was stated in external material from Nomura as well. It wasn't till KH3 that he learned how to use his Kingdom Key D to open Dark Corriders on his own. Now, KH3's dialogue is very boring, inconsistent, and disjointed when it comes to exposition, so I don't blame you if you just flat out missed that detail. But it's true. THERE IS a reason he never went to the RoD after 0.2, and up until KH3, he was preoccupied with the Organization, and trying to figure out bring back the people they lost (including Aqua) after Re: coded. And even if we were to ignore all of this, there's still no reason for AQUA to believe an idea that fundamentally contradicts every single time she mentions being rescued beforehand.

We also got Fallout Dust out of it: best New Vegas mod.

DUST is best overhaul mod outside of RLCraft ​@@klom89

good point on DDD, I just always played it at home on 3DS as well and didn't like it that way either lol

@@RegularPatby that point, it’s just different tastes I think it reminds me of what someone said about KH1 vs KH2’s design philosophy

Agreed, I’ve never been bothered by the Dream Eaters and I think I’ve only ever played the original 3DS version so that tracks

@@handsoaphandsoapI mean I’ve only played the 2.8 version and I enjoyed it, I definitely feel like at some point it just comes down to different tastes

​@@windy4566 I’d agree with that as well, some people just aren’t gonna vibe with having to engage with the Dream Eaters. I do think OP is on to something though. Certain features just don’t translate to different platforms.

If square doesnt pull up and release a re make before kh4, lets hope that makig the final mix succeeds

Other than the fact that Roxas is probably my favorite character, the gameplay was pretty good and the panel system makes my brain happy.

Well he is technically Michael.

I’ve never realized it but that line implies that he has a last name. What do you think it could be? I’m guessing something really normal like Jones or Smith. Lea “Axel” “Flurry of Dancing Flames” “Number VIII” “Dark Rescue” Dark Rescue Smith

@@SignificantNobody 😂😂😂 it’s probably whatever Saix’s maiden name is

I hate yhat world with a burning passion. Why can't my boy get a coat? Or at least a scarf?

I actually had fun in that world, from a gameplay perspective. Of course it could've been a lot better, but I enjoyed the hopping around, fighting and exploring at least. More than in Monstropolis, actually!

Ok yeah Xaldin sounds even more badass now

Wait wait wait… I can hate the mouse and the evil corporation these hands aren’t mutually exclusive

@@joneatsbagels7239yeah no shit but you’re also like the 0.1% that uses their brains

Exactly What is the actual asshole that run the company because at the end of the day Disney it’s just a thing saying that can’t do much without somebody at the wheel

Well… they didn’t *have* to, they chose to

@@OrchinX But they DID have to, that's what a translation to English means.

It's also really annoying in post-game synth grinding because you have to farm those ice dragons which you can only find like two of half way up the mountain. Ugh.

Whatever. I don’t care about that. At the end of the day I care more about the gameplay. And gameplay and exploration wise it’s one of the better worlds in the series, even if the ice world design is “samey” it’s still better to play than most of the other worlds in the series

KH2 Land of Dragons, Pride Lands, Agrabah, Halloween Town, Port Royal, and Atlantica are basically the same

@@MegaPokefan97 Hrm, I dunno about Halloween Town. Yeah, Oogie Boogie is kidnapping Santa again, but what happens between Jack and Santa afterward is very different. (And a few quick lines early on suggest that in the KH universe, the movie events happened likely before KH1.)

​@@Erikthedoodcope

I respect it! There's a ton of games where the things I like outweigh any potential cons

​@RegularPat Same! That's why CoM and DDD is so high on my own tier lists. Both have cons but I just love them so much cause a lot of what I love about KH resolves around Riku. My hot take low tier Kh game is BBS. I feel like the issues you mentioned for DDD reflect how I feel about BBS with the commands and minigames. Plus the story doesn't carry it like DDD for me. My love for DDD aside tho, it and BBS *are* what stalled my platinum runs. Lol

It's also one of those games that explores Nobodies way better than KH2 did. Heck, there are mentioned elements about the Sleeping Worlds themselves, even a few of Joshua's lines, that correlate with the true functions of Nobodies.

Happy... November 23rd. I guess. Just have a good day!

@@samlewis6487 lol thank you, you too :)

Want to stand by you as a fellow Dream Drop fan and say that this game has always been a highlight for me...on New Game Plus. It cuts a lot of the fat away for me. And even then it's not a perfect solution, but it's way better than playing it from a fresh save.

DDD had the potential to be one of the better games in the series, but for every positive aspect about the game, there’s always an asterisk attached to it. It’s combat is arguably the best out of the non-numbered titles, and it has some of the most unique and interesting selection of bosses in the entire franchise (from a mechanics POV)… But only as long as you don’t use the Balloon spells, because those break the game like a twig. They turn accelerating races against time, like the Young Xehanort battle, into button-mashing bores. The Dream Eaters, and how you have to actually spend time with them to have them grow stronger, are also a really interesting idea… As long as you play the game like a 3DS game, and not like a console title, because long play-sessions turn these small time-fillers into tedious roadblocks. The room-design is actually one of the better ones in the entire series, moving on from the KH2-esque battle-squares that littered that specific era, and adding a never-before seen sense of verticality into it‘s rooms. Finally bringing the platforming back into KH… As long as you don’t use Flow Motion, because it literally completely invalidates any attempt at platforming the game tries to throw at you, for almost the entire game. Riku‘s story is arguably one of the best stories the KH games have ever told, outside of 358/2 Days/Roxas‘ story. It fleshes out Riku‘s character in a way that seriously elevates him from what was basically just a less broody version of Sasuke… But you can’t treat this game like a Riku game, because of the stupid Drop mechanic (which also just so happens to completely undermine every other aspect I’ve brought up, up to this point), which forces you to play as the single-worst version of Sora this franchise has ever seen (Data-Sora doesn’t count). And it’s general story, outside of the Riku stuff, and maybe some interesting interactions in the different worlds, is also absolutely awful. It‘s a perfect example of the „KH story“ stereotype in the worst ways possible. Just overly complex and convoluted in the absolute worst ways possible. I mean, what even IS Young Xehanort? How is Young Xehanort? When is Young Xehanort? Why is Young Xehanort? Why does Kingdom Hearts need a time-travel plot? *Why in the everloving f- does Kingdom Hearts need a time-travel plot?!* **WHY DOES KINGDOM MOTHERF-- HEARTS NEED A GODFORSAKEN TIME-TRAVEL PLOT!!!** Edit: Also, it contains „Dark Rescue is my middle name“. The single worst piece of dialogue in the franchise. It completely ruins Axel/Lea‘s character. He isn’t the unequivocal best character in the franchise anymore… he actually kinda sorta has some competition now. He went from SSS tier with 5 gold stars, to just S tier... What do you mean, I‘m over-exaggerating!? I‘m being 100% truthful here! … Well, at least the music doesn’t have anything holding it back. That’s good, at least. But seriously, DDD is just such a frustrating game. Like it tries to be two different things at once, please two very separate crowds, but ends up failing at being even one of those things. I still like this game, though. In a guilty pleasure sorta way. Like, I know that this, realistically speaking, is one of the weaker KH games, but I am way too biased to truly admit it

@@KeDe1606 This was a long bit you wrote up, but I read it all because I really connect with what you're saying. DDD is one of my fav games in the series, but everything you said about it is true. I can even toss in some critiques on how the Dream Eater bosses are waaay too acrobatic for their own good sometimes, a problem I think KH3 manages to mediate a lot better, and that I don't think there's any easy way of seeing what Dream Eater abilities(the ones they can cast on you, not the supporting ones for Riku and Sora) actually do. I know Noble Roar gives me a power boost, but only because it's happened often enough. I never found a description of the thing. I think I read somewhere once that DDD was meant to just be a Riku game and Sora was made playable because it had been several entries of the series since we played as the real Sora. That could just be a rumor, I'm not really sure, but it feels like there's some truth to it with how awkward Sora's writing is. It's inconsistent too. Sora trying to connect with Rinzler, his talk with Roxas, and his speech to Xigbar about how he doesn't mind not being a chosen one because he's just happy to have the connections he's made along the way, are all great moments for him. The plot point of him stretching himself too thin in trying to save everyone is a good character flaw to acknowledge. Xehanort deciding that he's a problem that he should take out of the running and bring to his side is a good villain move! Ventus' armor protecting him from said attempts and becoming tainted in the process is also very cool! But a lot of Sora in DDD feels forced, and so does Axel, which maybe stems from his return and newfound importance being based in his incredible popularity. It's a game with peaks and valleys, and the valleys are unfortunately too long to ignore for most people. It's a damn shame because it's got so many good ideas going for it.

@@abbymems DDD, to me, feels like the most internally disconnected game in the franchise, if you get what I mean. I mean, KH as a whole has always been famous for it‘s tone-shifts between the first and second half of the game, but it feels like it‘s the most extreme here. To the point where it genuinely feels like I’m playing a completely different game. It feels like saying that it „jumped the shark“ would be an understatement. Like, you get to the end of the game, and suddenly *all* of the villains are back. Like, not only do we now have to deal with Xehanort (old man edition), Xehanort (time-traveler edition), Xehanort (Darkness edition), and Xehanort (ballet edition), but also Vanitas (literally just edgy Sora) and every single Nobody, with the exception of Roxas, Axel and Xion. Like, how did we even get here!? And said tonal dissonance carries over into the rest of the game too. One second we get these genuinely powerful moments for Riku‘s and even Sora‘s character, and the next we get to experience „wwwwwwWWWWACKY shenanigans with Sora and his literally non-existent friends! Aren’t they soooooo wacky? Oh look, Riku‘s fighting a funny mole man! And Sora is fighting a scaaaaary dinosaur, while his friends try to make a goofy getaway! Isn’t that soooo random?“ And sadly, the latter is just way more common than the former

i'm the guy with the pumpkin head :)

Real

didn't mean to imply there *was* nothing, I was just a kid who didn't really know how/where to engage with any of that stuff

i call him michael james mouse cause of pat lol

Keep cooking tbh I can get behind this

@@windy4566mlem mlem mlem :P

Do it.

Thanks, you as well!

oh that’s possible, i just looked up both games and the devs were different in name

@@RegularPat Okay I found more. Yes it's different devs, but it's one of those cases where they did look at Theatrhythm and took some inspiration. Hazama and Nomura said it started as wanting ot just be Theatrhythm KH, but then decided it would benefit from being it's own thing rather than just same gameplay different songs. A more interesting note. The devs of FBL said that they too took inspiration from MOM themselves and loved the multiple simultaneous triggers angle, which is why FBL is the first to have that in the Theathrythm line. So yeah, you were correct that it's different overall dev team, but now we know about the cross pollination.

Definitely agree with the story pacing, especially since it was done partially in response to complaints about the 3 stories in BBS feeling disjointed and cumbersome.