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My Container Home Lost Money on Airbnb Last Year 

Devon Loerop
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@pnwpaths2925
@pnwpaths2925 2 месяца назад
Dude don’t clickbait… You didn’t lose money. You used positive cashflow (extra $2,000 towards mortgage), to pay it off quicker. Not a loss and yes I would do the same thing. Pay it off ASAP! Great job in pulling the trigger and making an awesome investment. Motivates me to hopefully do the same soon 🤞🏻
@seanbramble
@seanbramble 2 месяца назад
Your payments towards loan principal aren’t technically an expense .. you actually earned ~$24k this year and will be closer to $50k next year. You can keep that profit as cash, invest it in stocks, build another property, or pay down your loan with the profit … but those things aren’t expenses. You’re just exchanging an asset for another asset
@shebyjlo
@shebyjlo 2 месяца назад
Exactly ;)
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Good way to put it. I guess I was explaining from a cashflow perspective. Like I mentioned in the vid, if I did dial back the loans I could have this earning me money each year and the numbers you said are accurate. 🙌🏻
@carolinabullfighter574
@carolinabullfighter574 2 месяца назад
​@@devonloeropso it's just clickbait then. "Not gonna sugar coat it." Got it. Never recommend videos from this guy. Bye bye.
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
@@devonloerop your title is clickbait. Do better
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
@@carolinabullfighter574 the first person calling this guy out. Finally someone with a backbone. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing people so desperate for RU-vid success they put out miss information and terrible data and clickbait titles.
@JourneyMore
@JourneyMore 2 месяца назад
Awesome video Devon! We were honored to be one of the first to stay last year! You've built something truly special and you should be proud. We know you are going to see amazing success with the Bin and Cedar Hollow!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
It was so great to have you guys out on site. Thanks for helping to calm the nerves of launching the home and not knowing it if was going to be worth it! Next time you're back out this way you gotta check out the CH. It's going to be really cool!
@GavinKohAquascaping
@GavinKohAquascaping 2 месяца назад
Congrats on your homes and your entrepreneurial journey! I appreciate that you share so transparently and not try to hype up what it really takes to build and run an airbnb. Your success is well deserved!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!🎉
@fredquinn3919
@fredquinn3919 2 месяца назад
Congrats on your wonderful success....you've definitely earned it the old-fashioned way...I really enjoy your channel. Looking forward to what's next!!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Trying to work hard in my 20'a so I can play a bit more when I'm older. Working on something really cool for this fall 🤫
@Mcgeee
@Mcgeee 2 месяца назад
This is awesome. So cool seeing all the behind the scenes stuff!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Thanks man! Stoked to see you start building your plot out soon!
@PhilipSteeves
@PhilipSteeves 2 месяца назад
It's a beautiful house!!! With your energy and creativity I'm sure you will succeed at anything you try to accomplish!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
I hope so!
@braydenmurrah1042
@braydenmurrah1042 2 месяца назад
Really appriciate you being honest with the costs. Makes me exited for the passive income you'll have when it's paid off. You'll be set!
@Pl-qq4yl
@Pl-qq4yl 2 месяца назад
I like the way you presented it , I appreciate how you built everything and you helped yourself too. Good Job , and do not get discouraged by someone who is arguing that loan payment is expense or not. It is not , but who cares . you have to pay it back anyway.
@TheNorthwoodsBuild
@TheNorthwoodsBuild 2 месяца назад
Really nice builds… like your channel
@susangasporra1176
@susangasporra1176 Месяц назад
Such an amazing home. Thank you.😊
@superdanman
@superdanman 2 месяца назад
Love the videos, hopefully this income stream will go up for you and help with cost and push you to more projects. Very fun videos to watch..
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
I hope so too! I love building and showing yall.
@StephonBroughton
@StephonBroughton 2 месяца назад
Great video Devon! Looks like this property is earning some serious cash. Glad all your hard work is paying off.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Thanks! It's doing well, 2024 is going to be interesting.
@iflick7235
@iflick7235 2 месяца назад
These videos have high production values. Thoughtful, likable interesting.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
thanks a ton, I slowed this one down a bit and took my time producing it.
@Houseds
@Houseds 2 месяца назад
Your container house is amazing, very beautiful and sophisticated in design and construction.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@mikesang9567
@mikesang9567 2 месяца назад
give yourself credit for tax deductions (mortgage interest, property tax) and mortgage principal reduction.. also as you mentioned, you have a ton of fixed cost that wont be duplicated on the 2nd property.
@scottperry2541
@scottperry2541 2 месяца назад
At a 5% mortgage rate I wouldn't pay it down. That is leveraged cheap money. Let your cash flow work toward funding a new build....and on and on and on.
@Channel-yw5gm
@Channel-yw5gm 2 месяца назад
Hey man, the new clip-on mic is doing the job!!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
lol you're one of my true followers to know my mic struggles 😂
@Darthvolvo
@Darthvolvo 2 месяца назад
This inspires me to one day have my own container home.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Haha so glad to hear! The construction plans mentioned in the video could get you off in the right direction if you're interested.
@PortlandiAFrame
@PortlandiAFrame 2 месяца назад
Great work Devon. The numbers are impressive. A testament to your hard work over the past 18 months!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
So much hard work. Social media sees so little of what it takes to make this stuff happen. Best of luck with the build.
@757_savage2
@757_savage2 2 месяца назад
Buen video amigo
@urbannomadslife
@urbannomadslife 2 месяца назад
Technically you made money because that extra loan payment was technically income that you decided to apply towards the loan principal so you really made an extra 2000 a month so you definitely made money. Which makes sense now because something wasn't adding up when you first showed it. But all your time is also an expense as well as you could have used that time to do something else so you should factor that in as well. But anyway the house looks awesome! And I'm glad you're selling the plans because I'll definitely be a buyer when I do my house.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
I do understand that technically I made $ but that's just in equity. Cash flow, I ran negative for the year.
@urbannomadslife
@urbannomadslife 2 месяца назад
@@devonloerop yeah, cash flow is important - the life blood of a business.
@begood9423
@begood9423 2 месяца назад
Seems like the larger mortgage payments are also a way to lower your taxes. First time to see one of your videos, saw a thumbnail provided by RU-vid and love your video very well done and informative.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much!
@thomasreto2997
@thomasreto2997 2 месяца назад
Aloha. I watched your post and pier build of the cedar hollow house to use as a reference for a personal project. My wife and I own a house on the Big Island. What we want to do is expand our existing ohana (separate guest house for friends and family). This 20x20 or so post and pier structure seems to….knock on wood….take earth quakes well….a 6.5 and most recently a 5.7. Would you have any thoughts on this roughly 12 x 16 foot single room add on.
@williamlheureux5308
@williamlheureux5308 2 месяца назад
Dave's advice to pay up debt only applies on personal homes. Rentals make it possible to deduct interests from the loan off your revenues. I would suggest not to pay it off faster but keep the additional cash to invest in other projects. Great video, I enjoy following the pacific bin !
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
He has no clue how to spend his money. He spent $2,400 in a single month to clean this tiny airbnb... the chances of him understanding a simple concept of paying a loan off as slow as possible isnt going to be something he understands.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
My loan terms greatly incentivize paying it down quick or my rates escalate after year 3. So maybe once I get the loan to a manageable place I'll be able to dial it back and think about another build/property.
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
@@devonloerop so your video should of been titled something to do with paying down your loan quickly. Not giving your audience the impression that what you spent was out of necessity. because you could have spend under 80k easily.
@TheCreditShifu
@TheCreditShifu 2 месяца назад
Dude, you realize this doesn’t count as a loss? You are using revenue to pay off the loan principle, which is basically you banking that money in the property, increasing equity. Would be cool to see a breakdown with principle and interest, and also the tax deductions you got for depreciation, mortgage interest etc. i love the house though, I might even buy your plans.
@redefinerelentless
@redefinerelentless 2 месяца назад
LETS GOOOOOOO🔥🔥🔥
@mbailey802
@mbailey802 2 месяца назад
guy who designed this plan set really shaking his head right now lmao. sick build.
@MaksimIzer
@MaksimIzer 2 месяца назад
Last video i watched was build cost, well done following up without clickbait garbage like 90% of channels (like shelby)
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
100% he just says whatever he wants to try to become popular on RU-vid. Imagine is family members seeing is clickbait nonsense. Unreal.
@yackablejohnson1485
@yackablejohnson1485 2 месяца назад
I've never been 1st before. I need a job.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Proud of you
@edwardmoulaison1359
@edwardmoulaison1359 2 месяца назад
🤣@@devonloerop
@urbannomadslife
@urbannomadslife 2 месяца назад
Huh?
@diegoj5563
@diegoj5563 2 месяца назад
I have been looking at the Monroe or east of Monroe area for months. Looking for that sweet land to grab for a vacation home/Airbnb. Container home was an optional build for me back in 2019 but with lumber stabilized and containers rising in price how would you approach this same home? I've considered containers/A frame/ log homes to build.
@diegoj5563
@diegoj5563 2 месяца назад
Either way amazing home and awesome videos. Loving the transparency within and the build processes
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
If anyone has suggestions on how i can further optimize this home please let me know! 🙏🏻
@calliousfriends
@calliousfriends 2 месяца назад
Bro been watching since you starting watching pacific bin 🤧 hook it up with a free night stay up there? 😭I’m from Dallas
@AestheticFilmFiles
@AestheticFilmFiles 2 месяца назад
This might sound silly but have you thought about raising your nightly rates? Do you spend any marketing dollars on Instagram ads? We’ve found Instagram ads to generate a decent rate of direct bookings and with your video experience I could see you bumping up your rates with a little more marketing
@seanbramble
@seanbramble 2 месяца назад
BUILD MORE PROPERTIES!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
@@calliousfriendsif you Venmo me $400 I'll gladly give you a 1 night free stay!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
@@AestheticFilmFilesthat's actually a big plan for 2024. Since I won't have a build in the works I am aiming to lean really heavy into refining my business processes, and marketing these homes.
@kdockrey
@kdockrey 2 месяца назад
What would the rent for this house be as a long term rental? Just curious how it adds up in comparison to the rent as a short-term rental.
@socalstr
@socalstr 2 месяца назад
Turning your construction plans into a $50K ticket is the real genius here. 1,000% margin.
@smcox1991
@smcox1991 2 месяца назад
Exactly what I was thinking. Screw the people renting it 😂
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 2 месяца назад
So using the profits from Airbnb to pay your mortgage is a loss? Please explain.
@creolelady182
@creolelady182 2 месяца назад
Have you had any problems with squatters or people who didn't want to leave past their lease?
@TomasRoggero
@TomasRoggero 2 месяца назад
Hey Devon, sorry if you already answered this... do you rent or have bought already your day to day place? I'm in doubt whether to invest in real estate for rent or for myself.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
I've been renting ever since I got out of school in my opinion it's worth just paying $1900/month in Seattle to open up that extra cash to pour into investment likes this. Plus it's a renters economy right now so once I figure out where I wana settle down then maybe I'll look at buying.
@eddiemalvin
@eddiemalvin 2 месяца назад
73% occupancy is insanely good. Do you get mid-week rentals or are people simply booking entire weeks/months?
@danielocampo543
@danielocampo543 2 месяца назад
Dave Ramsey!! For the Win!!!
@kleinpics
@kleinpics 2 месяца назад
Hold on you said you have a full time daily job? How can you do both and what’s your daily job (just curious)?
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
When I'm in the heat of a build I usually am working 90-100hr weeks between my 6am-4pm Engineering Job (40hrs), and then I work another 60hr/week on the build. Definitely not sustainable long term but trying to take advantage of the energy I have while I'm young.
@sandeshupreti6600
@sandeshupreti6600 2 месяца назад
Are you sure that your place will be fully booked in 2024 ? If not, how would you resolve the problems that will arise ?
@airduce
@airduce 2 месяца назад
If the plans were not prepared by you, and you purchased them from another source, you typically are not allowed to resale the plans. The original designer/company owns the plans. You purchased the right to use them to build your cabin. It would be best to check to verify...
@creolelady182
@creolelady182 2 месяца назад
Once this beautiful home is paid for- will you live in there full time?
@robdavy4468
@robdavy4468 2 месяца назад
Where do commissions fot airbnb or tourism taxes come off? (I think you said you had the latter once?) Also, how is it making $8,869 in profit before loan payment, but loosing money after you make a $7,500 monthly loan payment? Wouldn't that leave profit of $1,300/month? You got super exact with most numbers, but then kinda wishy washy with the final outcome numbers lol
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
No that's a good point. My starting revenue #'s started with taxes already being taken out. Airbnb takes their cut before I get paid out anyways so I don't ever see that cash.
@urbannomadslife
@urbannomadslife 2 месяца назад
It's funny, I was just thinking about your project wondering how it was going and then boom this video shows up - weird
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
The almighty algorithm!!
@urbannomadslife
@urbannomadslife Месяц назад
@@devonloerop I think it can read our minds now lol!
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 2 месяца назад
The loss seems intentional to avoid income taxes.
@justinrink6755
@justinrink6755 2 месяца назад
I'm curious what those incentives are for paying your loan down sooner or what your interest rate is. I know we grew up with the Dave Ramsey mindset but I'd debate that not all debt is bad debt
@justinrink6755
@justinrink6755 2 месяца назад
love the grind tho you're killing it. both those properties are just gonna keep getting sweeter
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Yeah.. I guess I just hate the thought of having a debt looming over my head. This just gives me a lot of flexibility and have the goal of becoming my own bank 5 years down the road. I'll still take on short term debt (2-3 year cash infusions loans for the upfront cost of a build in the interim) to build homes but I want to get to a point where I can full cashflow all builds by the time I'm 40. I know this might limit my overall potential but the peace of mind and less stress of no debt is very appealing.
@justinrink6755
@justinrink6755 2 месяца назад
fair play man, love the vision. it's been fun watching all of this grow!
@LastShade_
@LastShade_ 2 месяца назад
I’ve never been 2nd I need a job
@fortyozsteak
@fortyozsteak 2 месяца назад
Why would you ever pay off your loan? What a massive mistake!
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
Yeah! Debt free sounds stupid
@fortyozsteak
@fortyozsteak 2 месяца назад
@@devonloerop It’’s a horrible short-term and long-term strategy. It’s a rookie mistake. Look at the other comments. Leverage is your friend. Instead of paying down your mortgage use that money to reinvest or improve the property. It’s the most basic 101 rule of real estate investing…
@thunderbear82
@thunderbear82 2 месяца назад
People can't afford family homes, Luxury homes is out of the question for 90% of people in 2024.
@thomastimas
@thomastimas 2 месяца назад
How bad do you want it?
@DigitalSwagg
@DigitalSwagg 2 месяца назад
If you're not married, stay single or risk losing it all in a stupid divorce. Trust me, I know first hand.
@Palantir_Daily
@Palantir_Daily 2 месяца назад
Terrible take. You picked the wrong one, my friend.
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
Spending $2,400 in a month to clean a tiny Airbnb... this has to be one of the most troll things I have ever seen in my entire life. Cleaners do not make $100 an hour... they make like $15-$18 an hour tops. In lots of places they make $10-$12 an hour. Anyone can lose money on anything if you are this bad with money.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
🤡
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
@@devonloerop yes you are a clown… you spent $2,400 in a month to clean your small house.
@diegoj5563
@diegoj5563 2 месяца назад
You're not paying cleaners per hour to clean a remote Airbnb. It's probably a 1099 at a flat fee or payment to a larger company who has employees. His number makes sense as each turnaround is costing 120-200 for a cleaner to come in and clean.
@vickynoname9860
@vickynoname9860 2 месяца назад
I pay mine $250 in Tampa FL. If she comes 3 times a week that's $750 and they use my cleaning supply.
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc Месяц назад
@@vickynoname9860 Just because you pay something doesn't mean it is a good use of money. Doesnt mean it is a fair price. I know lots of people would be willing to spend $250, But there are lots of people who have the ability to get it done for a lower amount and will put in the effort to get it done for a lower amount. He posted something with a title for clicks.
@rickibrown9233
@rickibrown9233 2 месяца назад
Usually like your vids but this one is just clickbait. You made a profit and used that money to increase loan repayments
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
I lost money from a cashflow perspective and I gave a full breakdown on revenue/expenses. Seems pretty accurate to me.
@user-fl7ff5pw8b
@user-fl7ff5pw8b 2 месяца назад
You have done the numbers, worked all year for a loss, do the numbers again for long term gains, if you sell in the future, capital gains tax will get you. It's not for gains but for tax advantages over time. Your feeding the fish and working for the tax man
@dwiller11
@dwiller11 2 месяца назад
Short Term Rentals ruin neighborhoods and you are part of the problem. You should sell that to someone who will participate in the community instead of dragging transients through Sultan every weekend squeezing out local residents by increasing the cost of living.
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
I do particiapte in the community. I've made so many friends and they all think it's great that i've created a secluded space for others to enjoy some of Washington's stunning forest.
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
Your heading is a complete lie. Your house doesn't cost over 120k a year. Do better Devon...
@devonloerop
@devonloerop 2 месяца назад
With the current loan terms I'm breaking even on a monthly basis. So yes the current annual liabilities are over $120k/year. I explain it pretty well in the video.
@GavinKohAquascaping
@GavinKohAquascaping 2 месяца назад
@@devonloerop You most certainly did Devon, you most certainly did! Congrats on your amazing journey!
@urbannomadslife
@urbannomadslife 2 месяца назад
​@@devonloerophe is correct your accounting off. But you're an engineer not an accountant so we forgive you 😂
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
even if you had a 1 million dollar loan at 10% intrest rate that would cost you less than $9,000 a month. $9,000 x 12 is way less than $120k/year. So yes, When I say do better, i really mean it. Your place didnt cost anywhere near a million dollars. just because you are really bad with spending money doesnt mean that is your cost. It just means you decided to spend a lot more than anyone super smart would spend on the property. I can easily pay my cleaners $500 per clean, doesnt mean your audience wont laugh at you. We are too smart, and we know how much things cost.
@johnnyfive-bc
@johnnyfive-bc 2 месяца назад
why would you encorage such bad data and inaccruate title? It isnt good to share such terriable knowlege to people who will actually thing its accurate and helpful.@@GavinKohAquascaping
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