Why I Love Fedora. 

What do you mean by SPONSORED by Red Hat? Is Fedora a FREE version of Red Hat?

@@jakobw135 Technically, yes, Fedora is the upstream of CentOS Stream, which in turn is the upstream for RHEL.

Nope, fedora is an upstream of centos stream, then centos stream is an upstream of the rhel based distros​@@jakobw135

Fedora is a testing bed for Red Hat.

What If red hat stop supporting fedora.. ....

I do the same. Fedora seems to work the best with high-end hardware.

how is software compatibility in comparison to ubuntu?

@@CLtech05 I would say it is nearly on par with Ubuntu. I have not found in my experience any apps that exist for Ubuntu / Debian that I couldn't get by some means for Fedora, even if it's only as a Flatpak. Since Ubuntu is based on Debian, though, there are more options from it compared to Fedora.

In my opinion Ubuntu has better compatibility with most systems. I've been an Ubuntu for years. I own several hp laptop and Ubuntu is the champion

I tested Ubuntu 8.? back in 08 or 09. It was different. Years later, i started playing with Mint > eventually LMDE. Then i came across Fedora when i learned more about Gnome, so Fedora is my daily driver. I keep coming back to it. When i find a problem, i might venture away but always come back cause it's just that great!

Switched frrom Debian to Fedora. 2 reasons: Gnome is really cool and awesome to use these days, and Ghost Recon Wildlands in Lutris runs a lot better in Fedora vs. Debian (sorry Debian). Debian is very stable and isn't going anywhere, and it's perfect for Windows using switching to Linux, but Fedora caught my eye a few months ago and i've been tinkering with it here and there. Made the switch just this past weekend (March 15/16 2024). I don't think i'll be using anything else anytime soon.

Started on 36! Now on 40 and since I settled on Fedora I will admit I really haven’t even bothered trying anything else.

And it has KDE spin!

Well ubuntu adds those accents manually to the gnome desktop in appearance while fedora uses vanilla gnome which doesnt have it. gnome devs have had a huge discussion over accent colors with other desktop environment developers and they haven't decided what colors to choose for it yet gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2715

You’re a true OG if you started with the old Red Hat Linux!!

thats linux.

What do you like about it :>

@@linuxnext so I can flex that I use it, not much else really

@@horstcs great point 😂

Im running fedora inside a virtual machine on a arch linux host. The only thing i mis in fedora is the aur, or something like it.

lol

Lol thank you, i mean i want to interact with the community, if not then it will seem like i dont care what others think

Yes also my experience. Arch on the opposite end was a horrible experience.

boilingsteam.com/linux-distro-july-2024/

Thanks, Thats a pretty old video, iv changed my audio mix on my mic a couple times, but what do you mean exactly? Is my voice too deep or light? Or is it not loud enough?

@@linuxnext sorry ive just explored your newest videos, the sound quality has already excellent. Thank you for noticing comment on you old videos tho, appreciate it😁

i do not miss how much of a pain wifi used to be on linux.

i dont think you can, thats a gnome thing

I'm using LMDE. Since it's Debian based, it's going to be more stable and probably won't run the risk of breaking if Ubuntu decides to shit the bed, capitalistically...

@@jasonsnell708 you can always enable the testing branch too. Personally I like debian, mx on toasters (which is just debian) as well as Mint or Mint LMDE. They are all basically Debian. Fedora is nice but... it's also Rhel lmao.. I also prefer Arch. Honestly all Linux is the same really when you get down to it.

works for me, its not full transparent tho, only a little and thats why you may think its not doing it

Believe me or not, it not all people that don't think Fedora is the best are RedHat haters. I use SO many tools on my distros that were Redhat sponsored, systemd, pipewire, firewalld, I believe dracut, they've also invested in BTRFS, the list goes on and on. And I am thankful for that. But I can't recommend Fedora for many people. It's been less stable than my arch setup for me, and their war on any and all proprietary parts (Nvidia drivers, docker,... ) and their early/only adoption of some tools (SELinux, pipewire when it wasn't ready yet,... ) makes it actually take more time to actually use than something like EndavourOS.

On fedora they use free foss drivers which means there are a lot of drivers missing with lots of laptops and computers If you do this in your terminal what is the name of your wifi card? sudo lspci | grep -i broadcom Or do just sudo lspci and find the network controller

@@linuxnext I tried that. I am using Mint right now. And it is not showing it. I am sure the OS makes a difference. But what I remember. I think it is an Intel based network card. I am using it on a 8th gen i7 laptop.

@@mikehawk7307 try inxi -n it could be a broadcom card

I would also follow this, it adds the rpmfusion repo, both free and non-free then you install the intel broadcom driver www.fosslinux.com/134505/how-to-install-key-drivers-on-your-fedora-system.htm

@@linuxnext I just found a command line that worked I guess. This is what it showed. Network controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] (rev 30)

Nah not rlly, it feels like it sometimes tho

Pretty sure Fedora "Rawhide" is their rolling version

You had to learn how windows worked didn't you? Cause i had to, if not i would have not made it through school or learned how to install apps or do anything in general. I understand if you dont want to learn it if you dont have the time or use specific software that dont work under linux for your job. For the general user you could easily use something like zorin os, Pop os, linux mint, nobara and have a grand all time just like on windows. sure your gonna have to learn a couple things like what proton to use or apps but thats the fun part of using a new operating system If you're gonna move to fedora, arch, opensuse, manjaro get ready to learn a heck of a lot of things as lots of things are not setup for you by default As i always say linux is not windows, its built differently and i personally like more then how windows is built but this personal preference And yes I'm a nerd, i love hardware and software throughout my childhood to adulthood, That's a reason why i use linux as i want to get the most out of my hardware and let me choose what i want on my operating system and not Microsoft

Can you list some of the issues :P

Damn ok lol

Haha well you see iv been running opensuse tumbleweed for about a week and couple days now and have been loving it :)

Im using papirus icon pack

@@linuxnext Thanks! I've noticed that. I was asking for the *Plasma* Theme. Is it just default Breeze Theme?

@karlfriedrich2065 yep 😂

Yeah 100%, iv moved to opensuse tumbleweed to get a similar experience to fedora as i want newish packages

but it's not in fedora now or is it?

@@jasonfanclub4267 not at the moment, but Red Hat influences Fedora. They're gonna try and press it in there again.

please try out kde plasma, they have more options for color profiles then gnome

@@linuxnext will try it later, thanks

I do have experience with that distro, its gotten a lot better recently with how the desktop environment is setup and their own gui applications they have for installing different applications What game are you having issues with?

Hi there, I was in the same situation that you are in a few weeks ago. I in the end went to bazzite (customized silverblue). The installation was bad, to be honest, but the rest is completely perfect. ProtonGE is two clicks away, steam, wine, lutris... Custom Nvidia latency hacks... Gaming optimized kernel - everything is there, just after first boot, waiting for the gamer to start gaming.

I used Nobara for about 6 months and generally liked it. However there were a few issues with their repos and apps I couldn't get around so just went straight Fedora. I don't game on it so it didn't seem much of a benefit. They may have fixed those issues by now too. Its a good distro if you have NVidia GPUs. Not a big fan of Garuda (garish theming aside). While a lot of channels say it's stable, I had nothing but issues with docks crashing, having to rebuild taskbars regularly. It seemed like too much work for mine. No such issues on Fedora.

@peterschmidt9942 the garuda issue you were having should be fixed as they switched to the normal plasma panel now instead of the other panel software The nobara repos should also be fixed as glorious eggroll transitioned his repos over to new servers and how updates deployed are tested before updating. But i agree fedora is awesome also

@@linuxnext I was having issues with certain versions of the apps in the Nobara repos. There seemed some weird incarnations of the, (Like Firefox). I tried installing it from Fedora also with no luck. Again, maybe they're fixed now. I did hear that also about Garuda also. I might give it another whirl in the future. But I generally change the theme to something more tame LOL. Which is that extra bit of work. Fedora/Ultramarine works great for me as is.

That being said, I switched to Fedora 40 from Ubuntu because snaps brooooo. Ain't no way I'm cool with snaps and having to uninstall them, then stop them from re-installing on their own.

what apps dont scale properly on kde plasma? are you using wayland also? uuuh snaps is used more in linux????? no its not lol fedora, arch/arch based, opensuse tumbleweed, ubuntu based distros like linux mint, pop os, kde neon and plenty more all use flatpak lol no one in the linux community likes snaps because canonical decisions being proprietary with snaps and malware getting into there store pretty frequently because they didnt have people checking or approving packages + them forcing it on ubuntu based distros which is fine because thats there distro, oh and also when you compare speeds sometimes snaps is slower but saying snaps is more popular is just wrong lol whats so bad about flatpak exactly? and whats apps do you need that arent system packages or available under flatpak?

@@linuxnext Every distro I've tried in the last 2 months except Redhat derived distros like Fedora, use snaps. I believe Arch uses none of the above, which is my preference. VLC and Brave don't scale properly. Even Firefox doesn't scale as much as it should. Brave doesn't even obey the mouse cursor size, still, after this was reported ~4 years ago.

@@Christobanistan ok i see so why dont you like flatpak exactly? is it its privacy friendly permissions that are setup, how it updates, how packages are used in the containerized environment? cause to me these are positives

well scaling under garuda on wayland plasma 6.1.1 with legacy x11 apps, apply scaling themselves, works properly with vlc at 125% or 150% scaling, and brave also is working correctly when being scaled for me, these are through flatpak aswell, doesnt look blurry at all

@@linuxnext Containers are very heavyweight and slow by comparison. They result in lots of memory use since the OS can't reuse shared libraries (it's like every app was statically linked). The security model is also too restrictive so many apps which need to access system libraries can't do so without weird hacks that break easily. Flatpak came first, and therefore got some traction, but containers were kind of the 'fad' at the time, and unfortunately got used when they were a very poor fit, and survive now mainly due to momentum. This is just scratching the surface. Snaps and Windows APPX packages solve these issues with a custom implementation that does everything via OS features. Isolation is just as complete, but it's just way easier to implement what you need.

I agree :)

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agreed, not much of a problem for me but it is a issue

@linuxbenchmarks esp on my internet it makes a huge difference. Living in the middle of nowhere having it download deltas and from the fastest mirror is huge 😆

sharing your screen doesnt have anything to do with the software manager, zoom simply doesnt support linux fully for screen sharing properly, there are workarounds like xwaylandvideobridge but besides that your out of luck

twitter.com/artpaji/status/1609198846168502272?t=suYkSulsSJ1CFEetF-oj5g&s=19

@@linuxnext Thanks

Yes

True i used nobara for half of the year as it includes everything for you oit of the box :)

x.com/artpaji?t=PrV1uVcEo9rjPnvcAyzFjg&s=09

Idk 😭😭

I would have switched to x11 and then half the problems would have gone away with nvidia as fedora defaults to wayland

@@linuxnext i tried that i did a lot of stuff in order to make driver work.. gnome crashing was gone but flickering was still present. I also updated BIOS and installed aditional Nvidia packages but still.. problem is in Nvidia 535- newer drivers. On Debian i am using 525. Maybe if i ever return to Fedora again ill try to set that driver instead. But i heard from some People that they dont have any issues with newer drivers.. also many complain for the same reason Like i do xd.

​​​@@matijacizmar9372hey buddy, how was ur experience with debian 12 ???

I've got it installed on a laptop with an Nvidia GPU and had to install the non free repos in order to use the propitiatory drivers. There are talks that the Nouveau drivers (free) will be much better in upcoming releases as NVidia are being more open with their drivers. For now, just use the propitiatory drivers if you return.

@@peterschmidt9942 Nvidia drivers for Linux gives better performanse but Linux dosent love Nvidia:) if you find one version od driver that Works without issues stick to it. Its not a Fedora fault or any other distro.. but Nvidias fault. Radeon Works perfectly on every distro..so i heard.. Open source drivers can be stable but performance Will be worse. So in my opinion either to use radeon or stick to specific version of Nvidia driver which Works..and never Go for a newer version of driver...well only if you have hardware up to date

Fedora doesnt like to have proprietary drivers preinstalled so thats probs why it didnt work, if you want fedora use nobara Thats one of the great things about linux is each distro likes to provide what it wants so if it doesnt work for you, you can easily try something else

Yes both of these games do work well on linux in general with proton, if your using amd or intel then using fedora is perfect for that as they update their packages a lot quicker then other distros like mint or ubuntu for example, so you get more patches and better performance because of that, enshrouded is bringing steamdeck support soon so when you play it right now there is one issue that can occur where if you change the graphics it can crash the game lol. Palworld worked through proton day one of release on my amd gpu and performance was great 👍

@@linuxnext Awesome! Thank you

That is an icon pack, go to appearance, icons, grab a new one from the store plugin, search for papirus, download and apply

100% agree 👍

I've switched from Windows to Nobara. At first I liked it, but I liked tinkering a bit too much and ended up somehow breaking steam - it wouldn't play windows games anymore. I suspect (but am not sure, might be completely wrong) that I somehow messed up some dependency. The downside of Nobara is that in order to make the custom theme etc the Nobara dev replaced some dependencies from the Fedora repo - that seems like trouble waiting to happen. Anyways, I've then hopped over to Garuda because it seemed like a gaming focused distro as well and I'm glad that I did. The Arch repository is so well stocked, I didn't need a single Flatpak so far. I've liked the concept of Flatpaks but the difference in how much faster everything launches was an eye opener.

Framework laptops, system76 laptops, a thinkpad x1 I run a acer travelmate from 2015 and it works with fedora. Anything a year or 2 old should work on fedora just the wifi is always the factor so if you find a laptop that you like, check what wifi adaptor it has and check if fedora supports that wifi adapter

I've got it running on an - ASUS Vivobook flip 14 laptop - Acer Nitro 5 laptop (with an Nvidia GPU) - MSI mini DP10-13M They're all fairly recent/not old and no issues with any of them 👍. I thought I might have issues with the MSI (being fairly recent), but it installed fine with everything working well. Much better than Win10 on the same machine.

Plasma 6

​​​@@linuxnext you upgrade to plasma 6 or install plasma 6

x.com/artpaji?t=zFUTRdrxWJJW6a5d1U_6LQ&s=09 I then use upscaler to upscale it

Pretty sure discover is part of the kde plasma desktop group so i wouldnt be able too

@@linuxnext I used KDE spin and removed Discover because i did not like updates through it, so you can do it for sure, doing update trough terminal, Dragora or Discover are the same. If you miss it, you can install it back. I like terminal and Dragora. I did it on Fedora 38 and im pretty sure its still the same at 39.

Oh ok 🧐

@@linuxnext I just tried installing Dragora and removing Discover through Dragora (just the main one) on Fedora KDE 39 live and its working. :D

What type of bugs and what hardware?

Oh, you’re using KDE. I’ll have to try that

you can also use gnome extensions, grab extension manager from the gnome software store and then search for dash to panel or dash to dock

Yes 👍

Do you mean the system package version of steam? If so then Enable rpm fusion steam repo in the discover store settings then search steam and choose the rpm version of steam and uninstall the flatpak version of steam

@@linuxnext thanks bro for the info have you try out PikaOS?

Thats not fedoras fault, what desktop environment?

@@linuxnext Of course it's Fedora's fault. KDE Plasma 6.1.1. Just installed Pop OS which does it just fine, dark mode and scaled.

no its not, fedora uses kde plasma, so its kde plasmas fault, your using gnome now on pop os, developed and maintained by different people, there's a difference :) and soon pop os will be using their own desktop environment called cosmic and this will use wayland by default also what is vc?

@@linuxnext Groan. No. Fedora (OSes in general) run one DE at a time, but allow many APIs to run, and are responsible for spreading settings around to each of them. That means that Fedora, running KDE, must activate font or theme or DPI settings for GNOME apps it allows to run, too. Like I said, other distros running KDE do this properly. It is not even hard to implement, they just don't bother.

Missed opportunity :(

Yes that is true, i learnt that afterwards, manjaro by default is stable repo which updates every month, you can change it tho to be bleeding edge like arch

Yeah i know i dont use music anymore because of this

Pop OS is the best distro Ive used with a NVIDIA card. They have a spin that is pretuned for NVIDIA.

Came out very recently but it works :) flathub.org/apps/com.fyralabs.SkiffDesktop I think its unofficial tho

It is better, takes less time, its the after part that takes forever for windows to install, linux doesnt f around after you install it

@@linuxnext IT does take longer, but that is not a very important part of an installer. An installer's job is to set up the system, and get it right. To start, Windows ALWAYS scales up the GUI according to the resolution, to a fixed size so you can SEE the damned thing. Linux installers don't do that. Windows also always uses a dark enough theme that low vision people can see it. I've only seen ONE Linux distro do that, which irritates me to no end, since I'm almost blind, so installing Linux is just excruciating. Second, Windows always installs successfully. Every single time. I've recently tried to install several distros which just blow up with a cryptic error messages. Infuriating. Stability freaking *matters* ! Windows' installer also has no complexity at all, never asks unnecessary questions that could be delayed until after the install, when your system is up and running. Can't say that about Linux. It also always installs proprietary codes and software without bothering you. It's pure ideology that keeps Linux installers from doing that.

each distro is different and uses different installers, if you want lots of packages preinstalled use a distro like nobara or bazzite or garuda etc these distros do install the right codecs for you when i installed windows 10 or 11 it is not dark mode at all, its blue and white linux will always be a operating system that the user has to figure out which lots of people dont want to do, its a whole new operating system that isnt windows and people seem to forget that, im sorry that your almost blind, maybe figure out the installers their using and open a issue to ask about improving it for you, i can not help you with that

Its the default font in kde plasma but bold lol, i forgot the name 😂 noto sans bold

oh really, it looks so much better in bold haha@@linuxnext