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My favorite ergo split keyboard ˢᵒ ᶠᵃʳ 

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Corne video: • Wireless Corne Keyboar...
Charybdis video: • The Charybdis Wireless...
TOTEM video: • The TOTEM Wireless Key...
TOTEM Redux Case:
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TOTEM Mote Keycaps:
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Totem Redux printed on my Voron 2.4:
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My ZMK Github repo:
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Eren's wireless Charybdis guide:
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Charybdis trackpad mod:
github.com/Bastardkb/Charybdi...
Charybdis encoder mod:
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Chapters:
0:00 (Introduction)
0:34 (Corne)
3:03 (Charybdis)
6:12 (TOTEM)
8:55 (My favorite?)
10:37 (Q&A section)
13:23 (Outro)

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@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 6 дней назад
Updated zmk-config repo with dongle sample configs with for all the keyboards in this video: github.com/eigatech/zmk-config
@KitesAndDarts
@KitesAndDarts 10 дней назад
This is some of the best quality split ergo keyboard content ever. Please keep posting stuff like this.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 9 дней назад
Thank you, we will definitely do so!
@linewizard
@linewizard 7 дней назад
Just ordered the parts for a Totem! Thank you so much for these redux designs. I think the hardest part of this is going to be getting my FDM prints to look halfway decent.
@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV
@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV 11 дней назад
I want to see improvements to the Charybdis. I'm really interested in the touchpad mod for example. I agree that 6 columns is a waste. One thing I've been experimenting with are what I call combo mods, which solve an issue with home row mods. The idea is to press the home row mod key on both hands simultaneously and then keep the modifier active for as long as one of them is still depressed. This solves the issue of accidental activation and also the delay issue.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 11 дней назад
Thanks for the comment. Combo mods sound interesting. Have you looked into urob's timeless homerow mods? github.com/urob/zmk-config#timeless-homerow-mods
@Chefcooken
@Chefcooken 11 дней назад
I like your idea of mods keys on two sides. Was thinking about trying homerow mods again, but they aren’t great for gaming unless you make separate layer. I do combo mods on the Charybdis mini (3x6) and have two keys for mods (ie f+g or h+j for shift). Also use one shot mod, so I can just tap the mod then the next key I tap is the key plus mod. Always great to hear what works for other people. @eigatech try the svalboard!
@AlexChavezHome
@AlexChavezHome 11 дней назад
@@Chefcooken Have you considered adding a separate layer for gamin without home row mods and launching it using a macro? This is what I did on my Charybdis Nano and use it for gaming just fine. I had to use the thumb keys for frequently used Ctrl, Shift etc.
@trench6118
@trench6118 8 дней назад
@@AlexChavezHome I wonder how the charybdis with the trackball would be for a game like WoW. I would need to bind clicking which is weird, but it seems crazy to keep my hands on my keyboard the entire time i was playing. The trackball would need to work well to mouse over unitframes and nameplates which requires some speed and accuracy...
@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV
@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV 10 дней назад
Sorry for writing a second comment, but I just had a thought. If you make the Charybdis mod with the touchpad, it could have the touchpad on both sides, which would allow to have all the advanced multi-touch features that we know from laptops and mobile phones. Like pan and zoom, scrolling and gestures.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 9 дней назад
It’s an interesting idea but a lot of that depends on what’s possible to do with the ZMK firmware. 🤔
@MaxiveLegend
@MaxiveLegend 9 дней назад
Apart from depending on the firmware, you'd also have ti think about how to handle conflicting inputs when touching both pads at the same time. That seems like it'd be a nightmare too lol
@vmr_1997
@vmr_1997 11 дней назад
The charybdis was what made me subscribe lol that build is still hella insane
@r69ng
@r69ng 11 дней назад
thanks for my RU-vid suggestions that recommended me this great channel! Great video, so much effort, hardwork!!! ❤❤❤
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 11 дней назад
Thank you!
@erenatas
@erenatas 11 дней назад
Thank you for the praise and all your work 🙇‍♂️
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 11 дней назад
Happy to return the favor, great work on the guide!
@franciscoberrocal1124
@franciscoberrocal1124 11 дней назад
Love your videos and builds! Can't wait to see more! ❤
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 10 дней назад
Thanks for the continued support!
@jonnyboytech2574
@jonnyboytech2574 11 дней назад
amazing work I can't recall the sub but I always wait for the videos thanks a lot VOID you the man!!!
@thomassmith3513
@thomassmith3513 10 дней назад
Oh my, what a perfect timing! I've been printing the original totem case and came very very close to redesigning it because it is so annoying to print on FDM with the massive amount of support it needs in difficult to remove places... I'll definitely check this out. Looks amazing too!
@ArtemShoobovych
@ArtemShoobovych 7 дней назад
Hard- (and hand-) wired BastardKB Skeletyl and flashed it with Miryoku on QMK and can't praise it enough
@dylan8389
@dylan8389 11 дней назад
Just wanna say thank you for all the work you and VOID have done. I happen to own the exact same 3 keyboards as you: Corne, Totem, and Wireless Charydbis, with your channel introducing me to the latter 2. And now that I have my own 3d printer, you got me wanting to make a totem redux as well!
@dylan8389
@dylan8389 11 дней назад
Also regarding the modifiers and mouse keys on the Charydbis, home row mods plus mouse buttons on combos are pretty good. So I will activate modifiers on the homerow on my right hand and then use my left click combo on the left hand (d & f on a qwerty layout). I love this way of doing things so much I have added it to my Totem as well to use with my standalone trackball.
@AX-fx7ng
@AX-fx7ng 10 дней назад
So lovely to see the sparks igniting so many peoples creative side. I hope someday I can make one and maybe have a 3D printer.
@giantxBash
@giantxBash 10 дней назад
can't wait for the klor video
@AX-fx7ng
@AX-fx7ng 10 дней назад
Wherever you are someday when I’m medically unlocked and able to travel again I’m sitting down for a brunch or lunch with you both; my treat. Lots of love and thanks for sharing. You’re making my creative dead side comeback alive and itch to make one.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 8 дней назад
Thanks for the comment!
@AX-fx7ng
@AX-fx7ng 2 дня назад
@@EIGAtech God help me get out and there maybe next year.. I might try to work on a combo of some of your builds later this year if health permits. Hope it won’t be too much of bother if I reach out to you for help.
@ArtichokeLasso
@ArtichokeLasso 10 дней назад
The totem redux looks great! Removing supports on the original was time consuming, and it took a fair amount of post processing to get everything to fit properly.
@AlexChavezHome
@AlexChavezHome 11 дней назад
Thank you for the comparison. My journey has been as follows: Corne > Ferris Sweep > ChocoFi > Rollow > Charybdis Nano (Static Bearing Mod ) + 15 degree tenting legs. Having used all these keyboards for multiple months, I find the Charybdis Nano the most comfortable and ergonomic of all and what I would consider my end game. Having key wells and the pinky stagger, along with a 20 degree (15 tent + 5 built in) is in my opinion the perfect hand position. The only challenge as you mentioned is that it's takes some care when transporting to the office (fortunately it fits in my laptop backpack).
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 11 дней назад
Interesting how you went from Corne to low profile and then to the Charybdis. Anything in particular with the low profile keybs that turned you away from them?
@AlexChavezHome
@AlexChavezHome 11 дней назад
@@EIGAtech While using the Corne and subsequent low profile keyboards was amazing. I was using strictly Choc Low Profile - Pink which are very light, and felt scratchy (it was not enjoyable). I was making accidental mistakes because with the transition to split ergo, I also switched to Colemak DH (more recently to Canaly with the Charybdis); so my muscle memory has been lacking. Having a split keyboard allowed me to place my MX Ergo trackball mouse in between the keyboard halves nicely. Later on I noticed how much often I had to move my hand away from the keyboard to navigate the mouse. I loved the idea of having the pointing device as part of the keyboard; so I built a Dilemma which has a round trackpad with lubbed MX Brown switches that felt better for typing. Unfortunately, I could not get used to the sensitivity and small trackpad surface. The Charybdis nano with an integrated trackball worked flawlessly even better than I had imagined. There is a scroll feature that I can't live without and use it quite frequently, it's like using the scroll wheel on your mouse but using the trackball instead which is so smooth and scrolling through sites and lists is a breeze. I apologize for the long response. Thanks for asking 😊
@halfwit2
@halfwit2 День назад
Keyball39 is so comfy, I was so torn between it and the Charybdis nano
@DaleHooton
@DaleHooton 10 дней назад
Gotta see that KLOR build
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h 8 дней назад
shocked to see my question being featured in this video, glad it was addressed after 6 months lmao
@skrypets
@skrypets 10 дней назад
Would love to see Keyball39 build as a Corne trackball alternative to Charybdis
@groxx
@groxx День назад
Kailh choc pink: last year I took some reds and put 15g springs in them because I wanted lighter keys (was 50g) and I was feeling a little crazy... And I am 100% sold. Particularly for low travel distance, light springs are fantastic. They do indeed take some getting used to, but wow. So much less tiring and less-hard bottoming out.
@BloodyOrder
@BloodyOrder 11 дней назад
Ha, I am a totem user myself! And i have the exact same switch story like you 😅 Totem is so sexy. I love the small footprint.
@shrugalic
@shrugalic 7 дней назад
I feel the Charybdis is really meant to be used with steep tents, such as the optional 30 degree tents. Then all keys are easier to reach, and the trackball's cylindrical holder is exactly vertical rather than tilted inwards. I'm a fan of the big 6x4 Charybdis, and prefer it over any other ergonomic keyboards I own(ed), such as the Kinesis Advantage 360 (wired non-pro), MoErgo Glove80, ErgoDox, Moonlander, Sofle, Voyager, TrulyErgonomic, KeyboardIO. This list is in order of my preference, favorites first.
@KhangNguyen-pk8ue
@KhangNguyen-pk8ue 10 дней назад
Would be awesome to see a Svalboard build!
@thomassmith3513
@thomassmith3513 10 дней назад
Thanks
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 9 дней назад
Thanks a lot! 🖤
@niemand9109
@niemand9109 5 часов назад
EIGA, VOID, great work! I am looking forward for your KLOR build. I'd like to make a few special requests (perhaps they fit into your plans): Please make a low profile wireless build with the intention of maximum batterylife (idc if there would be a heavy battery in it, but it should have power for a week minimum). An indepth build process by VOID would be also great. You did a super nice SLS case for the Corne with tilting capabilities, it would be great to see it with the KLOR again (perhaps a new twist to it?). And can you show the total costs of the whole build?? I am going to build this thing too and I'll hope I can learn from you. All the best and keep up the good work guys!
@johnathanrhoades7751
@johnathanrhoades7751 10 дней назад
I just got a Glove80 with pro reds, programmed it down to just three rows of 6 columns and the thumb keys with home row mods. I’m loving it. The totem looks amazing! But I’m really enjoying the glove’s concavity.
@trench6118
@trench6118 9 дней назад
I am using the glove80 but without home row mods. What do you put on your thumb cluster? my modifiers, space, enter, backspace, and escape are there currently.
@johnathanrhoades7751
@johnathanrhoades7751 8 дней назад
@@trench6118 It’s a generous cluster so I’m using it with the following layout (left to right) Left Top: Backspace, Delete, To layer down Left bottom: momentary layer up, momentary layer down, tab Right top:To Layer up, return, space Right bottom: Insert, momentary layer down, momentary layer up
@trench6118
@trench6118 8 дней назад
@@johnathanrhoades7751 nice, thanks. i'll tweak mine tomorrow to see how it feels.
@LeeGoGo
@LeeGoGo 11 дней назад
i actually got my corne wired from aliexpress for like a hundred after watching your first video.
@knoopx
@knoopx 3 дня назад
i built the mx and lp corne and i prefer the mx. i can type a few wpm faster on the lp but the typing experience is more pleasant on the mx. also no problem with wrist twisting, your pinkies look way larger than mine xD
@Allumik
@Allumik 6 дней назад
In a month its the 4th year anniversary for my Southpaw's Centromere Mini. I have spring-swapped (35g i think) Red Pro switches in it, although the quiet ones you mentioned in the video look really sweet. Still, the LP switches don't make that much sound to begin with. This keyboard was the first custom keyboard I bought. I took the plunge to 36 keys straight away with the intent to use the colemak dh layout from Miryoku on an unique device so that layouts wouldnt get mixed. In a month it was usable for dailydriving and in a year I had written my CS masters thesis with it. Until now it has served me so well that I find it hard to justify buying another one. I always thought that this is going to be the "gateway keyboard" to more and more experiments but that has not happened. Why am I writing this? Because I really liked your line "its not minimalism for minimalism sake; it just makes sense", and wholeheartedly agree with it when looking back at my last few years keyboarding with my Centromere.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 6 дней назад
That's interesting, that you knew what you wanted from the get go, went for it, and stuck with it. Sounds like you really knew what you wanted from a keyboard. In my case, if making RU-vid videos wasn't a thing I may have never gone beyond the Corne, or it may have taken me much longer to do so.
@vulgrim
@vulgrim 10 дней назад
I've been eyeballing Klor keyboard repository for quite time now. And it looks quite awesome. Too bad there is are no available kits for it, at least not in Europe, with resin print case.
@jtank913
@jtank913 8 дней назад
First off, thanks for your amazing content! Secondly, do you have a reference for files to make the dongle?
@maddyleaf
@maddyleaf 11 дней назад
I have a wireless Corne LP from Typeractive, and while I already knew I'd have to make some sacrifices when using it for gaming - Simply the fact that it's wireless through bluetooth, introduces tiny input delay. The input delay is not noticable when doing anything else, but in fps games it's very noticable. I still use the wireless Corne with my Macbook, since it's amazing for programming and with it being super transportable, it's definitely not a wasted purchase. That being said, I'm probably gonna invest in a wired Corne for my PC - Although I have been eyeing the Dactyl with a 3x6 layout and 3 thumb buttons on each side, just a more ergonomic Corne essentially.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 11 дней назад
Interesting that the bluetooth lag was noticeable, I haven't had any issues (other than some instances of connection dropping out entirely). I don't play competitive games, but recently I've been using the TOTEM for single player games and it's super responsive and the connection is rock solid with the dongle.
@maddyleaf
@maddyleaf 11 дней назад
​@@EIGAtech It might be the nicenanos because they aren't 2.4ghz - I might also notice it a bit more, because I've played comp fps since I was a kid. I don't think I'd notice it as much in a singleplayer game either. My dongle is like 40cms from the keyboard and there's no issues otherwise, it's just a tiny bit input lag I'll feel when stutter stepping in CS or doing anything movement related, especially when compared to my wired Alice KB. Changing ports make no difference, but I usually use the higher speed ones. Maybe if it was 2.4ghz I wouldn't feel any difference to a wired, since gaming mice use that as well.
@Xe054
@Xe054 9 дней назад
Remember, you can still use your wireless Corne in wired mode. The default keymap includes a toggle for wired and wireless. That should eliminate the input lag while gaming.
@maddyleaf
@maddyleaf 9 дней назад
@@Xe054 This is somewhat true, the left part will have a wired connection, but the right part will still be connected to the left part wirelessly.
@Heilzmaker
@Heilzmaker 6 дней назад
Id like to see the KLOR, came frome the chribdus video btw :)
@Excalibaard
@Excalibaard 6 дней назад
Looking forward to the Klor video, though the squarish design of the totem and Klor bother me a little :) I'm not likely going to build either of these in the near future (until I feel a need to learn to solder and someone who's into 3d printing), I'm perfectly happy with the Dygma Defy (and it has just enough keys to use it for gaming also).
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 6 дней назад
The Dygma Defy looks interesting, but how do you deal with so many thumb keys?
@Excalibaard
@Excalibaard 5 дней назад
@@EIGAtech they're mixed MX and low profile, so it's not that bad with reach/ergonomics. The hardest part is trying to find uses for them all, I use 3 in my day job, but it's nice for a gaming config when you don't use the right half (space, enter, mods, PTT, +2).
@oat1000
@oat1000 5 дней назад
How in god's name are your totem 3d prints so nice. Not a layer line in sight, plus it's textured
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 5 дней назад
Good angles, you can definitely see the layer lines IRL if you look for them, but I tuned the prints quite a bit to get them to look as good as they do.
@snork_games
@snork_games 7 дней назад
I wish RU-vid had a notifcation level above "All"/push notifications. Your channel is one of about 5 where I /NEVER/ want to miss a video To that end, do you have a mailing list or similar?
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 6 дней назад
That's high praise, thank you! I don't have a mailing list but I always announce new videos on my instagram account: instagram.com/eiga.tech/
@chrisrussellca
@chrisrussellca 11 дней назад
I think I’ll look into this, currently I use a normal low profile keyboard, Logitech Craft. Should I start with a mechanical keyboard first or this? Seems a bit intimidating.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 11 дней назад
Hmm, it depends on your frustration tolerance for more or less hard resetting your typing muscle memory. Ask yourself the following: 1. Do you have the time for it (allow 2-3 weeks of initial adjustment)? 2. Do you find ergo split keybs appealing? 3. Are you willing to customize your keymap and tailor it to your use case (set up layers and memorize them)? 4. Is touch typing something you want to get better at? 5. Are you dissatisfied with your current keyboard? If the answer to all of those questions is yes AND you accept that there will be compromises to be made, then I say you go for it and enjoy the challenge!
@CodingWithAuryn
@CodingWithAuryn 3 дня назад
Amazing style and content, i absolutely agree with your points. I also build the skeletyll wireless and love it. But currently building a new complete custom one with own pcb. If you are interested on a collab, let me know. Would love to get your input their. Also amazing style, love it!! Keep pushing :) And the klor looks amazing o.O
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 3 дня назад
Thank you! Anywhere I can follow the progress on your custom keyb?
@CodingWithAuryn
@CodingWithAuryn 3 дня назад
@@EIGAtech Not yet no, i am currently on the PCB design and will create a video as soon as i have my first prototype/keyboard running But happy to share first drafts directly
@baconberries8097
@baconberries8097 8 дней назад
I thought the pink switches sounded pretty nice
@Xe054
@Xe054 9 дней назад
Interesting that the Corne's outer columns make you twist your wrist. Do you think that's due to bad typing posture or habits? Because I also have a Corne and type with my hands hovering in the air, like a piano player, and I move my entire arm (keeping my wrists straight) to type the outer column keys. I haven't had any pain issues yet after 9 months of use thankfully.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 9 дней назад
No doubt posture / technique is a part of it. The hover technique is interesting, and I have seen/heard others use it. Do you use tactile / silent tactile switches?
@schneemann
@schneemann 6 дней назад
Where can I get the parts for the totem? Is there a hot swap version?
@linewizard
@linewizard 4 дня назад
How did you get that squiggly finish on the top of those pink/green totem shells???? :o
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 3 дня назад
It's the infill pattern. You do this by adding a height range modifier to the model in your favorite slicer, setting that to a few layers height (e.g. 0.8mm) and disabling the top and bottom shells for that height range. Then it's just a matter of playing with infill density, infill type, angle, etc. The prints in the video use the Hillbert Curve pattern.
@linewizard
@linewizard 3 дня назад
@@EIGAtech Thank you for the detailed response! I'm testing a few resin and PLA prints while I wait for the rest of the parts to show up
@marcodebortoli
@marcodebortoli День назад
What are the keycaps on the corne? Do you have a link please?
@rookiedev881
@rookiedev881 8 дней назад
Try the: rolio46 keyboard
@crbon13
@crbon13 6 дней назад
Where can I find this zmk software 1:45 ?
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 9 дней назад
I just want a cheap left hand board (so I can use my right hand for drawing on tablet)
@Tasty_sand
@Tasty_sand 9 дней назад
I'm sticking to the qwerty layout because I still want the ability to type on somebody else's PC/laptop.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 9 дней назад
That’s valid. I use my MacBook occasionally and typing on it is not fun when you are used to split ergo keybs.
@don_juant
@don_juant 3 дня назад
your brain will learn both
@ketauro
@ketauro 10 дней назад
Would you ever sell the Totem Redux? I dont have a 3d printer
@REMY.C.
@REMY.C. 10 дней назад
Hey guys, I just discovered this channel, diving into custom keyboards. He mentioned a "Void" or "Voidz", can you tell me what is the right name and if this gentleman have a channel or website? Thanks.
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 8 дней назад
Hi! You can find link's to VOID's Printables in the description. Still working on convincing him to start his own YT channel...
@REMY.C.
@REMY.C. 7 дней назад
@@EIGAtech thanks for the answer. He needs a RU-vid channel for sure, both of your POV's would perfectly work in tandem.
@AndyChiuTW
@AndyChiuTW 9 дней назад
Thank you for making the video. Watching your videos has been very beneficial for me. I usually use Kailh Choc V1 switches, and recently I tried modifying them by adding tape strips(Tape Modding), which greatly reduced the rebound sound. If you get a chance, you should give it a try! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VNbndbaovho.html
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 8 дней назад
VOID has lubed his set of Pink switches and I tried them a while back, they are surprisingly smooth. I may do the same to mine and check out the tape mod as well, thanks for the link!
@AndyChiuTW
@AndyChiuTW 7 дней назад
To use the tape mod, I would recommend using a heavier switch, preferably above 35 grams. If the switch is too light and the tape is applied too wide, it can affect the typing feel.
@Netist_
@Netist_ 8 дней назад
ew, chocs
@JT-hh2ik
@JT-hh2ik 7 дней назад
I'm all for the split kb content! Have you had a look at the dactyl cygnus?
@voidkb
@voidkb 7 дней назад
yes! every time I spot a cygnus on discord or reddit, I'm overwhelmed with the desire to build one, it's such a good looking keyboard. maybe one day, haha
@EIGAtech
@EIGAtech 7 дней назад
@@voidkb 👀
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