My Favorite Toy Hauler Floorplan! 44 Keystone Raptor 423

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@robertf3340 4 года назад

I had a 40’ Raptor that came out in 2008 and was a brand new floor plan at that time. Had numerous issues. Most of the problems were fixed under warranty but required extensive work, including removing one of the slides and rebuilding a section of wall around the bathroom. There were 3 linoleum floors that had to be replaced due to the crappy build quality and after the third replacement, Keystone refused any further replacements of the flooring. I contacted Keystone directly to insist on an extended warranty due to all the issues but was shut down immediately. They refused to stand behind the factory warranty and refused to extend the warranty after all of the issues we’d had. I’m sure the Raptor has come a long way since 2008 but I’ll never purchase another Keystone product. Do your research on this product and company because your stuck once you buy.

@josenoyola9851 5 лет назад

Cmon power ball 🙏🏼

@spudbono5747 5 лет назад

Lol...made me spit my coffee!

@joannalanzoni5637 5 лет назад

Lol

@latvianorthodox3436 5 лет назад

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

@Zitasgirl2 4 года назад

Jose Noyola lol

@xixchi8503 4 года назад

If you win power ball get me one too 😃

@ricwestdoesitwork 5 лет назад

First Toy Hauler I've seen that I actually like. Thanks for sharing JD awesome Toy Hauler.

@rocketj7449 5 лет назад

Nice to see Keystone adding solar. A must have if you're boon docking!

@dthomas2047 5 лет назад

Saw your segment on KYD’s channel when they selected their new 450. Really enjoyed the cross channel advice with them. It was a great segment from the most knowledgeable truck guy. Again always great perspectives JD.

@rossbowman202 5 лет назад

Got to agree with you. That is the best toy hauler layout I have seen to date. Thank you for the great video.

@marcocasillas5023 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video that is nice to manufacturers are starting to listen to their customers and it's probably because of your videos thanks 😊

@JohnDoe-jq5wy 4 года назад

You do a great job covering all the features. I have a 36 ft. BIGHORN and totally love the design and features.

@michaelfedorsha8147 4 года назад

You're right this is hands down my favorite toy hauler layout. Most haulers living room, or lack thereof, drives me nuts

@karlsangree4679 4 года назад

I was looking at toy haulers until I realized that a 45 foot to hauler with a 15 foot garage is only 30 feet of kitchen/bedroom/living room space. I am looking (soon, hopefully) to move from a Silver Creek Silverback 35QB4 to a Riverstone 39FK. I LOVE that front kitchen and with the kids grown and out of the house, the 4 bed bunkhouse is useless as a screen door on a submarine.

@bobcat1384 5 лет назад

Beautiful layout with the kitchen living area, it’s about time, really like the dual pane window option also.

@KaiZen999XXX 2 года назад

LMAO Dude really said just don’t fall of the tall ladder 😂😂😂

@vdubing01 3 года назад

By far my favorite too. FINALLY a big 5th wheel with a full size outdoor kitchen!

@GS-jj8pq 4 года назад

After doing some ofy owm research ive got to agree this one just has that right flow you want when traveling in obviosuly a smaller space than you home. 👍 Good taste!

@goose7574 5 лет назад

Wow! That's a really sharp looking fifth wheel!

@Maxdady01 5 лет назад

Beauty. I have a 2016 332ts, solid rig from Keystone. This thing would be great to full time in.

@redbullman1675 4 года назад

Dude that is one thing I want when I get older that thing is soooooo nice

@yankeetothecore 5 лет назад

Love this TH floor plan.. I agree, Keystone got it! I'd like a smaller garage thou, 13' is more than I'd need 😀

@Lexi95Rob86 4 года назад

I would love to live in this one year round!! So nice when the toy haulers have the doors that are kind of like sliding glass doors but I'm pretty sure its plastic but still when it's cold out it's much better than just the screen doors . . Wish you would go over the type of doors.. looking for something like this because of older kids who need there own room.. just would love this😊💜💜👍👍 I know this is older but it's still one of my favs!!

@joshholcombe77 5 лет назад

Hey JD, great review.. We just pulled the trigger on a Vengeance 348A13 for the same reasons... great seating inside with the fireplace and TV in a great location..

@renaarmstrong2838 4 года назад

I LOVE THIS TOY HAULER!!!! Love it❤️

@jacksonwalker6604 3 года назад

We are getting one of these soon and I’m really excited lol

@pipeline_hank5277 5 лет назад

LOL at the end of the video he zooms into the murder report on tv 😂

@jaymeskadeland1030 5 лет назад

Just picked this trailer up 3 weeks ago and love it! Has a few design flaws but nothing that isn’t easily fixable in my opinion. Great toy hauler!

@JB_WhoWork 5 лет назад

Huge fan of the Keystown products! I know people complain about reliability but I think they are still built well. I’ve had my eye on the Raptors but money/no dually interfere with me buying one anytime soon. Thanks for video!

@chrischapman276 4 года назад

Very nicely done with the description, getting to the point and stating what is important in a timely manner. We've all seen the one's that seem to drag on for days. This trailer is THE ONE! You are absolutely right with the haulers and no living space, tough/impossible to find. You mention the tow vehicle with the 3500/350 and dually. I would take it above that and increase the tow vehicle weight by adding the crew/super/mega cabs and long bed with the 4X4 for the added tow weight. Any smaller a truck would be too small/light to tow this thing with it's weight along with the size, in my opinion.

@55afishead 5 лет назад

After researching toy haulers I decided to go with the Raptor 424. Picking it up this week. It was between 423 and 424. The 424 won out because of a couple features the 423 didn't have. The 424 has a 1 foot longer garage. A lot more room in the bedroom to access both sides of the bed and most importantly it has a second window in the bedroom. We do 99% boondocking and at night if we don't have a cross breeze in the bedroom it's just not all worth it.

@wendellt9724 5 лет назад

Check out the Luxe Fifth Wheels

@rmk1283 5 лет назад

I know what you are saying. I like the 421CK. They didn't make them this year but did last year. King size bed on slide so bedroom has tons of room to get around bed. Check it out.

@55afishead 5 лет назад

@@wendellt9724 Luxe costs just a little too much.

@mcrican182 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing that info👍🏽

@davidgross137 2 года назад

I agree. This is by far one of the best layouts. The only negative I have is the loss of the 1/2 bath.

@donnapauley8183 4 года назад

I like this one better than some of the others.

@scrtasnmn9826 5 лет назад

Outstanding presentation! Not once did I hear you say, "you've got your" or "again", which are completely unnecessary comments that are so very annoying. You have also stopped waving your hands around in front of your camera! AND kept this vid down to far less than 8 minutes! The picture and comment pacing was also excellent and did not drag or need to be sped up! Please keep up these improvements and you are heads and shoulders above other presenters. You already pack in a lot of excellent points and technical information. This is like a nice polish job on top of your great content.

@scottback3020 5 лет назад

I completely agree with you on the controls. I do not like those touch screen deals. Give me regular switch’s for everything.

@usmckao 5 лет назад

scott back there is a manual override to operate slides and what not in the basement. @keystonervcompany has easy access color coded wiring accessible in the basement storage.

@scottback3020 5 лет назад

usmckao I wouldn’t like that. I’m not a fan at all for touch screens inside. My sisters camper for example. They have to open multiple screens to turn on lights, extend awning, slides, water pump, water heater, etc. That’s to much of a hassle. Switches are better. IMO

@tonypiwko3634 5 лет назад

Incommand also allows smart phones to connect to it, and some models are also wifi capable... meaning if you connect the panel to the wifi, you can access it still while you are away from the rig. If you have pets you can make sure furnace/ac is running for them, turn your AC on before you arrive at your site to chill it for arrival, or monitor for issues... Plus it also allows Keystone Customer Service to assist remotely with troubleshooting like doing a screen share with tech support for your computer if you allow them access. Helps you and them diagnose and troubleshoot issues quicker over the phone and get the parts sent. With the touch screen, smartphone/tablet connection, internet connect, manual switches on control board, and the old fashioned override cranks on the motors themselves, technically you have 5+ ways to monitor and operate the rig to control everything vs. The ones that just have switches. On the flip side... it adds some complexity to the system for tech wary folks, but I do applaud them for trying something diffent in the age of home automation and Internet of Things (IoT) era. For the record, I dont work for, get endorsed by, or own a keystone, or any rv for that matter. This is just information I found from Keystone factory tours on RU-vid where the technical manager gave a long detailed overview on their system.

@russellmoore6705 3 года назад

I like how you mention the right truck first a ram 3500 dually

@bradwilliams4921 4 года назад

Nice floor plan and decor. I like 2 entrances into the master bath. Another great review by BTBRV.

@TheFeralBachelor 5 лет назад

The Jayco Seismic 4113 you reviewed last year is my first choice but I really like the layout of this unit. It would be a close second choice. I agree with you about the placement of the sofa facing the TV. The only down side would be giving up a side patio deck, and I love the step up mid kitchen on the Seismic.

@madrasta420 5 лет назад

You beat me by 4 mins!! I came to the comments to say what you said. I love the Jayco 4113.

@MrCard031584 4 года назад

New to RVs and not the best of credit. Just got a 2007 raptor 3814 with 14' garage. I love it, but this is my new dream rig. When I can upgrade this is what I'm looking for!

@TBrownRecords 5 лет назад

This is a nice RV for 2019

@FloridaKeysPirate 5 лет назад

For a more economical choice , check out the Forest River Wolf Pack 365 Pack 16.

@gvsukids 5 лет назад

I like the new feel, showing still shots and slower panning. Although a couple of jump cuts that distract from the smoothness of the video.

@arniecribbjr.6718 5 лет назад

That’s a sweet toy hauler ! 😎

@stevenkruse5746 3 года назад

Good advice on trucks, thanks.

@derekbuttery4776 5 лет назад

A great piece of kit... for me (a non-toy hauler) I'd see if you could with the kitchen wall around (eg the one with the microwave in the cabinet, so it's next to the TV cabinet), push the kitchen 3 or 4 feet into the 'garage', have the washer / dryer side by side under a counter top and have a bespoke kitchen / dining / patio area with a more relaxed, private living room space... overall sa gorgeous RV...

@chrisbrennan2208 3 года назад

That is a beast of a rig.

@haulinodie5548 4 года назад

Wow, this thing is massive. Many parks we go to, this would not fit in. These just keep getting bigger.

@thetraveler5798 5 лет назад

One of my favoritives toy H. I would still like some more mod. & very much lkke the color.👍👍👍🌟👍👍👍

@Tyler43055 5 лет назад

We need the price in every video

@travnat1 5 лет назад

2 legs, 1 arm, and 3 fingers.

@saraboutin2210 4 года назад

Nate Trav and your first born

@RadDadisRad 4 года назад

Nate Trav that’s only $71k

@koolgear9143 3 года назад

Right

@TexasFamilyCamping 3 года назад

This floorplan looks a lot like the Alliance Valor we want, the 40v13.

@davefox8948 5 лет назад

This now at the top of my list! Thanks !!!

@suziemartin944 3 года назад

I like this trailer..I have been saying some of the same things you mentioned with our XLR Boost..cabinets are too dark, hate the convection oven, dislike the loft only use it for storage as I would not put kids that high up to sleep in..we took out lousy mattress put in an RV short Queen..took out the reclining sofa of faux leather and put in a Laz-y-boy reclining dual love seat. I really like your kitchen arrangement..like the bigger frig and how much your tanks hold. Well..lol..other than all of that..I like your trailer

@nick2xopoku386 5 лет назад

This looks beautiful

@kidluk 5 лет назад

Would love to see your thoughts on a Raptor 427. For a one bike family I think it’s the best “livable” hauler

@mcrican182 2 года назад

I really like this rig!

@09turbodiesel 5 лет назад

Great video, I like the floor plan. I think I would want a queen size bed instead of the king. Not much room on the drivers side.

@debbiederosier1591 4 года назад

Can you order one that doesn’t have anything in the garage and also no living room furniture. It would be cheap and let you convert the garage into either a living room or bedroom. It would be perfect to specialize it to your likes !!!!!

@darrenolson556 2 года назад

This is the right one!

@clanaoaarmyofallah2557 4 года назад

I love the inside.. as a young buyer i hate those old cheap wood and interior looking rvs. Its so unappealing. But this one looks nice and bachelor looking very hip and modern.. you dont get that elderly people vibe. Its nice but id like to see some with bigger and more windows along with a window in the front on top of the RV.. i hope to buy one at the end of next year so hopefully i can get a good luxury looking model for a good price. Cant wait to get it and put my motorcycle in the back.

@prettybonkers1040 4 года назад

Love this so much. ❤️

@justinm9126 5 лет назад

Would love to see a review on the wolf pack 365 pack 16 it has a great price point would love to see your thoughts on it

@bruceschintgen5781 5 лет назад

Check out Heartland Torque 371 . Duel axel, little cheaper, nice layout. I did drop down TV mount to lower th TV .

@alexs3187 5 лет назад

I have looked inside that floor plan, and I agree, it’s my favorite too. Completely separating the kitchen and living spaces is what I think has been needed. What took them so long? According to the specs, the garage will (barely) fit a Polaris Rzr XP 4 Turbo S.

@shaunotoole561 3 года назад

It's beautiful i love this one

@gordonsteel55 5 лет назад

JD if you ever get the opportunity check out the 2019 Keystone Fuzion 429. I went and looked at one last weekend. It has (imo) by far the best floor plan out there for a toyhauler. You maintain the 13 foot garage for the kiddos or toys, and in the garage you have a 1/2 bath. In the living area you have an "L" shaped couch facing the TV and fire place. As well as a dinette slide with NO CARPET that can seat 4. The kitchen is good a size as well. The 429 is definitely on the top of my list. I'm gonna search for this one as well. I would definitely like to walk thru this one.

@rmk1283 5 лет назад

Question. I have looked at them online but can't tell how much room is between TV and main couch sitting position. Is it too close for 3 hour movies or you think its liveable. I live in my coach for 3 months at a time so important to have good TV viewing angle. Thanks

@orvalstuckemeyer127 5 лет назад

Look at the Grand Design Momentum 376TH. Single motorcycle only, but LARGE living room and kitchen.

@akuapiatas 4 года назад

be nice if they made a proper RV from a toy-hauler floor pan, the kitchen should have a slide out to push the kitchen and tv compartment out to give more room

@fannumtrucks 4 года назад

That was a nice touch man, showing that murder at the end of the video.

@madbear3512 5 лет назад

I'm not really into toyhaulers but I like this one

@mountaintoplifestyle 3 года назад

Love it, definitely don't need a dually to tow it though. SRW 1ton has the capability, 1400lbs under my rams max payload and half the weight 15,000lbs under my trucks max towing capacity 👍

@floydieharris6236 2 года назад

You will experience a lot of sway when transitioning from areas where the wind is blocked to windy passes like rivers etc

@sociopathmercenary 5 лет назад

I just wish the cabinets went to the ceiling. Most people aren't going to use that space for decorations in a moving home and more storage is always good... Even if you need a stepladder to access. Just another place for dust to collect.

@Dive-Bar-Casanova 5 лет назад

Using a stepladder is a deal killer. It's the first thing people hate about their trailers. Our Grand design has all low cabinets and plenty of them. Low cabinets, Coleman air conditioning and Norcold Refer are the most important things.

@sociopathmercenary 5 лет назад

@@Dive-Bar-Casanova The cabinets can be mounted low so they are accessible. I'm just saying I'd rather have tall cabinets that go all the way to the ceiling where maybe I have to use a stepladder to reach the extra top shelf. You'd have to use a stepladder to dust the top of the cabinets anyway, right?

@TheCampoholics 5 лет назад

Someday soon if you could do a review of the GD Momentum 395 M, we would like to see it. Thank you.

@karengann9615 5 лет назад

I was going to say, I don't think he looks at grand design at all. 376 and 374. front living room, rear bedroom garage under bed

@tammyholmes5649 5 лет назад

Just added a comment for him to look at Grand design next because they have the whole package.

@Dive-Bar-Casanova 5 лет назад

@@tammyholmes5649 We just bought the Grand Design 398M. We love it. We lemon lawed our Keystone and won. We'll never buy another Keystone product. Grand Design beats the others in every way.

@dannyfow6153 3 года назад

Nice. Have you checked out the Grand Design Momentum line? The 397TH has a full bath in the garage that does not take up any garage space, nice layout in the living area as well.

@mikeb8342 3 года назад

Also, if you don't need a huge garage (one motorcycle or a couple scooters) the 376th is almost perfect..... except taking up kitchen space for the w/d. I'm considering both the 376th and 397th myself. Of course I'm about 15 yrs out from my purchase....

@renaarmstrong2838 5 лет назад

Awesome!!!

@Chop1818 5 лет назад

That is very nice but I still think the Keystone Fuzion 429 takes that design up a few notches.

@Artsy.Journeys 5 лет назад

I do like this design a lot better, definitely.

@randybryant9936 5 лет назад

Nice rig

@ianwilliams1688 5 лет назад

The Best Toy Hauler floor-plan I Have Seen So Far

@charlesturner8268 2 года назад

This floorplan works well because there's no 1/2 bath in the garage

@tammyholmes5649 5 лет назад

No second bathroom, great counter space. Grand design has the whole package.

@TRAVISM3 5 лет назад

The Momentum GD that I saw could barely fit one 450 atv or maybe two dirt bikes. Defeats the whole purpose. I can fit 4 atvs in this with space to walk in between with tools, gearbags, and mountainbikes.

@tammyholmes5649 5 лет назад

@@TRAVISM3 I get you. It really depends on what you need a toy hauler for. The quality and lay out for GD is what we like while we only need it for one ATV.

@boson285 5 лет назад

I agree, the best one yet! Just need to delete the secondary bathroom entrance (seriously! Why are those so common? Big waste of wall space!) and turn the bed to recover lost closet space. Then you can turn the shower stall perpendicular and get a much larger shower stall.

@Dive-Bar-Casanova 5 лет назад

We agree.

@scottbaker4314 4 года назад

Better be going with the Best Diesel on the market, The 2020 Ford F350 Superduty 6.7 Powerstroke. Both are in a class above the rest. Even better with that new Superduty is the 2020 LUXE 48.5' toy hauler

@stankvanfartnstein5590 5 лет назад

It's Huge!

@heathtucker3505 5 лет назад

You should check out the vengeance 420v12 toy hauler

@workmanallday2694 5 лет назад

Great floor plan if your hauling a golf cart. Just not enough garage space to haul modern day toys. 15' garage with that layout would land you in the manageable area.

@dedalliance1 5 лет назад

You'd be as long as a semi truck then lol.

@jasons.9274 5 лет назад

@@dedalliance1my voltage 3818 has an 18ft garage and its 44 ft long.

@dedalliance1 5 лет назад

@@jasons.9274 That works and all, but just doesn't leave a whole lot of room for dedicated living space, which is a fine compromise if you're not worried about it.

@johnr.7374 5 лет назад

The reason why you aren’t sacrificing living room and kitchen space w/ this one is b/c it’s 152 feet long

@kdaddy147 4 года назад

😂

@ramonaakright6622 4 года назад

😂

@debblouin 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@abdlhabassa6798 3 года назад

@@debblouin رواح عندي

@mikeb8342 3 года назад

Actually, it's because most toy haulers in this class size have a second bath adjacent to the garage. For a retiree couple that doesn't have guests join them much, the 2nd bath probably isn't needed.... but neither is a bigger living room. To each their own.

@tomgillotti 5 лет назад

Could you do a 'slides in' view in your reviews? It would help a lot of people to know the functionality with all slides in. Thanks and appreciate your videos!

@lucyferina 4 года назад

If you live in California, you can definitely afford one of these, when rent is over $ 3000 for a two bedroom and almost 5k for a house, getting a new one and a new truck to pull it with may cost you around 2000 a month...

@laurenm6511 4 года назад

Massachusetts is the same

@1002CL 2 года назад

Love the floorplan. I hate the long sofa on one side of the unit and its half in the kitchen and half in the "livingroom".

@Pilot545 5 лет назад

Have to agree...awesome floor plan! And, while I disagree with you on some half ton towing abilities, without a doubt, this monster is dually territory! Great RV and great review! Nobody hits the details like you.

@benpriester6657 3 года назад

You shoukd also check out the Fuzion 379 and 430.

@jamesglenn520 2 года назад

I would like to see the layout with the slides IN. We are considering full-time and I would want to be able to get in the fridge and to the stove without having to open everything up. Quick lunch stops or overnight stays like in some parking lots 🤔

@chapc 5 лет назад

Would you please review some HDT tow vehicles? I think a dually is too small. I believe you have looked at an MDT. I’d love your thoughts on an HDT. Thank you

@fordfsd 4 месяца назад

Resembles the Dutchmen triton voltage 3521.

@edgargomez8662 5 лет назад

It is very nice 5th wheel unit, but I think they overlooked something, this beauty is to accommodate 6 people or 8 if we go crazy ... lol, whatever ... I miss the half bathroom in the garage because with that number of people inhabiting this 5th wheel ... it's insufficient ... it's my opinion and that's why I love the Cyclone 4005 Fifth Wheel Toy Hauler ... good video

@Luscious3174 5 лет назад

That's a really good use of the living room space and kitchen but the bathroom and bedroom I feel are a letdown. I'd opt for a smaller cargo space but keep the ramp especially if you don't carry big toys like a side by side or quad. You just don't need a 10+ foot garage for a few e-bikes or scooters.

@clayrooster2761 5 лет назад

The rustic floor is the best. Haha you really won't notice the damage done during manufacturing

@chadkennedy529 5 лет назад

Or the mud from my boots.

@waynehicks317 5 лет назад

You should look at a Grand Design 397TH toy hauler, like it more than the raptor units

@Dive-Bar-Casanova 5 лет назад

And the GD is way better built.

@waynehicks317 5 лет назад

@@Dive-Bar-Casanova definitely agree with just walking in both

@Smkelly1212 5 лет назад

Question: could you haul two horses with the stablemate system in the back of it?

@scottsweeney5005 5 лет назад

My aunt Kelly Sweeney has a camper just like that

@losthomas7589 5 лет назад

Now there’s the first toy hauler that I don’t hate.

@brandondannys-menary3678 5 лет назад

TaosDad31 why would you hate any toyhauler though?

@mike-bh1iz 5 лет назад

You should checkout the riverstone toy hauler. The bed lifts during transit and that is your garage. Just as much room as a traditional toy hauler and the same setup as a traditional 5th wheel. It’s quite ingenious.

@BigTruckBigRV 5 лет назад

I did a review on that about a week ago

@mike-bh1iz 5 лет назад

Big Truck Big RV lol. That’s probably where I saw it. Sorry 🥴🤥