My Favourite Racing Overtaking Move (That'll Get Me Beaten Up One Day) 

more like turn 1

Turn 1 lap 1 in Monza a guy wrecked 3 cars including me (iRacing)... locked his tires and startled everybody behind him as well - causing more mayhem. Now I know what his idea was xD

No - the defending car can't move under braking but an attacking car certainly can, so long as it doesn't cause a reckless accident. However, if you're attacking someone in this manner and you have someone directly trying to attack you, then yes, you would be 'moving under braking' and that would be wrong.

He does admit that if the front car brakes a bit too early, both of them are going for the wall.

Shane van Gisbergen V8 Supercar champion. He does this almost every race weekend in real life & pulls it off. He even did with a broken collar bone & a broken rib. He’s insane man. One of the best race car drivers breathing today. He’s nuts man

This is a last lap type of move or a move you make when you are stuck behind a slower car that refuses to yield.

Apologies for the wave of super sends

"I got it! I'm Daniel Riccardo! " "... I'm not Daniel Riccardo"

🤦🏾‍♂️lol they're gonna try that move on Glen this week.. first corner, on cold tires🤣

@@rebelx9 on the first lap of a 3 Hr enduro

Divebombers: Oh yes, Its Showtime

Yeah, both drivers have to be top-level for this to work. There are so many ways this could go wrong lol but to see it pulled off is definitely impressive.

That's because many people are idiots. If you're Not an Idiot, this move shouldnt be Impossible.

Good Ending: GRAZIE RAGAZZI Bad Ending: MEIN GOTT MUSS DAS SEIN

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The good old dummy send

@이조필립알프레드 2017

The infamous 'Snake' overtake

They're kinda damned if they do and damned if they don't - if they go TOO defensive they're a sitting duck, but if they don't go defensive enough they're a kneeling duck

I'd need 2 laps to set this up if I tried it. First lap I'm flat out taking the outside, giving the lead car what he wants and pulling beside him on the outside, then slipping back in behind him for the corner. If I can get that move started again, I'd take the straight almost all the way to the left, keeping behind like Danny does. Let him see me in the mirror, but not know exactly how far up beside him I am. If he's driving defensive and sees me about to take a wide radius into the corner, he'll move out further to set up his entry and better defend the corner. The timing has to be adjusted, you'd have to move the moment you see him prep for the corner, but it pretty much assures you'll have the room on the inside. The other side of that is, if you don't end up beside him on entry, you don't win the corner. And no matter how you try to pull this off, it's painfully easy to overcook the corner, so... you gotta be confident in your driving lol

Lol you would think so but I've employed the same moves on the same corners against the same opponents and they're always effective. If it only works once then you haven't mastered it.

They do that? That's a good idea

@@dannyleeracing this isnt world class. The guy defending literally threw. He continued to go back to the outside a full second after you were on his inside, if he had just kept to your left and not moved that would've been his corner.

@@lun7n Yes, but that's easy to say in hindsight, analysing it afterwards. People aren't robots that automatically select the best response instantly, some will instinctively yield as a safety response like Dean did, and he's not exactly shy when it comes to racecraft, he just didn't expect it. It won't work on everyone, but something is better than nothing.

because it's a late move, it isn't predictable.

Have you stopped doing gta online airshows?

Yeep. Also, lifting off the throttle a bit earlier means arriving at the corner with maybe 2, 3, 4 mph less, which can make the crucial difference of being able to brake a meter or two later than the other guy and still hitting the apex, not running him wide or hitting him.

Dani Ricc did an even more extreme version of this irl and it was against the 4 time wdc Vettle not any rookie

So far? 100% success rate. I trust my decision on who this can and can't be done on

there's nothing improper about this move

nah there are 2 main reasons why so many collisions happen, desync and low skill, you don't need to be a pro to race on a sim

@@alecpitts6843 its about minimizing risk. You re just putting yourself in a position of wrecking the race by doing this. In the vid at the begining of the straight the guy is beat already. If you dont get him now you take him on the next corner

@@pedrosilvaproductions definitely agreed on this particular corner. It's probably a better move to overtake on the outside and get the inside on the next turn. But this move in and ovlf itself is not a problematic move. It's where and how it's moved.

yep, i just trust my teammates and others i know wery well

So lift a little more and then floor it . The variaties are there.

This would definitely be more convincing with a lift closer to the beginning of the straight/exit of the previous turn to make it seem more like you never had the move to begin with. If I were defending and saw you had the momentum to go up the outside but lifted to stay behind, I'd be sus of this exact move.

hey uh, don't. it's a very dangerous, last minute move that 99% of the time will result in a crash

Not something to keep on your mind, it's something you get a feel for and it sorta "just happens" depending on your run on them and how well you know them as a driver. 9 times out of 10 if you're like "I'm going to deploy my special move!" it results in a fireball.

Smart man, I shall use this.

Skill issue through and through

That's exactly it! If you fail to make this stick but you force your opponent to shift to an ultra defensive stance, that too brings opportunities. The whole point of this is that you are fighting people, not robots, so use that against them!

For what it's worth, I do say precisely this. Don't go doing this on some stranger in the wild without some idea of their skill.

@@dannyleeracing I mustn't have heard it, but I figure throwing it in the comments never hurts :)

That's kinda the point of the move lol to not give them time to react and to pounce on the opening. Sure if you're playing Public Lobbies it might not be the best but this move is very easily done with 2 capable drivers. Even in Public Lobbies, this move is 9/10 a success for me with the 1 out of 10 times being at the fault of the defending car

@@JusticeSheperd Totally agree. If they know that person that they're making the move on, then yeah, definitely ok. However in public lobbies it's a bit reckless.

@@GaresMusicOfficial Reckless cause of the defending driver 9/10 times if you got a capable attacker

@@JusticeSheperd Fair enough. I guess it was my personal opinion. My bad, should have outlined that in my comment. Good talk tho ☺️

Exactly, nothing new or revolutionary, no one with a brain would open the door for him either once he is up the inside

@@km6832 the best part is that to defend that, you only need to check out mirrors while braking and if car in front starts to brake just to make it with the most outside line, then that car behind won't make it at all, or will be much more behind. That's why I think that this scenario feels scripted. Car behind started braking later than the car in front and still make it for the most inside line on that corner and hold it there. To hold that speed on that corner without going out of curbs, you need very slow approach.

Twirling my moustache reading this

But we aren't using porches are we?

Is iRacing not realistic?

​@@a.banana First ferrari move but in a porsche = very dangerous, likely death. Second example is a lot different timing-wise.

Thanks man, I'll be pumpin' em out more often come 2024!

Initial d reference ?

@@scubasteveae86alemar74 Fourth Stage

Then that would make you one of the folks this might not work on - so be it. But most will react to losing the inside by doing what Dean did, which wasn't rehearsed or coached in any way, he just shuffled left in response to the perceived risk to try and widen his own line. He wasn't expecting it and he didn't have much time to think about it.

@@dannyleeracing got ya. It just appeared to me that his dive out and in would have been incredibly risky given your proximity to his bumper and this kind of move is just begging for a net code collision. Don’t get me wrong. It could work given the right situation but i would be more likely to want to get even with him on the outside, feign and then set up for the crossover into the turn just before the small carousel. I find that filling up a guys mirror is going to lead to a mistake on their part eventually.

@@eclark9965 100%, the main showcase example here was really blummin' tight, it couldn't have been any closer and I was lucky that the timing was so close, whereas the 'organic' example in the Porsches was the same thing but with a bigger margin between me and the target car and looked a bit less risky. Probably a better example, that one.

@@dannyleeracing cheers. Hope you don’t think i was Just negging. Making videos to help people become more proficient and safe drivers is a good thing.

@@eclark9965 Never ever - fire away! Appreciate you watching and commenting, 'cos if nobody did that there'd be no joy in it!

That was a textbook maneuver! Thanks for the kind comment!

Only if you do it wrong or your target is too ignorant to see it coming - a divebomb is when you drive into the 'vortex of death', this move launches you alongside under braking

Its a pretty known move in karting, call it a fake lane change, not a dive bomb

Oh ok.