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My First Chinese Diesel Heater 

Tom the Dilettante
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WARNING: During this video, I test run this heater indoors for demonstration purposes and convenient filming only. NEVER run an internal combustion engine indoors without proper ventilation for prolonged periods of time. Use common sense. This device is meant to be run outdoors with the included heater duct running to the area you wish to heat.
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Assembling and firing up my new HappyBuy Chinese diesel heater.
I decided to jump on the diesel heater bandwagon, and in this video I cover why I got one, a brief history and my expectations, assembly and fire-up, and my impressions of the HappyBuy Chinese diesel heater.
Video Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Why I Got a Diesel Heater
2:09 - History and Expectations
4:02 - Assembly
7:44 - Firing it up
12:40 - Review & Next Steps
Affiliated link to the diesel heater in this video. Using my affiliated links imposes no additional cost to you. However, I may earn a small commission on purchases using affiliated links which help support this channel.
HappyBuy 5KW Diesel Heater: amzn.to/31ZqdVZ
Alternate Diesel Heater (similar): amzn.to/3U9PtD4

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@gwokfaikiisu
@gwokfaikiisu 2 года назад
I generally get annoyed with most presenters. This is the first time viewing this channel. You are really great at this. Commentary, clarity, production flow...GREAT! CONGRATS! Hope you build a huge audience!
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 2 года назад
agreed just stumbled in on this guy. his production and presentation is really good.
@easttexasengineering3489
@easttexasengineering3489 2 года назад
He really is good at a review, not just 20 minutes of some unboxing, at the end of his review, one can honestly decide to buy one or not.
@1PotatoeMasher1
@1PotatoeMasher1 2 года назад
Check out Technology Connections he’s great too.
@aodhmacraynall8932
@aodhmacraynall8932 Год назад
Yep, cept you can tell he's a smart-ass.
@jakehohl1642
@jakehohl1642 Год назад
Really glad I’m not the only one who feels this way!!
@ACloserLookAtLife
@ACloserLookAtLife 2 года назад
IMPORTANT NOTE: I saw this on another channel, but it’s important to have the muffler be the lowest point in the exhaust system because of moisture or it will cause moisture buildup in the machine and make it fail. Also the little dimple on the side Of the muffler should point down because it’s a moisture outlet.
@Steadierpark
@Steadierpark Год назад
Also doesn’t a muffler reduce more sound the closer to the source it is? And would potentially clear the feet.
@matthewmaynard5460
@matthewmaynard5460 Год назад
Thank you man, wonderful tip
@relajacionenvuelo8966
@relajacionenvuelo8966 Год назад
Thanks for your tip, I appreciate it. Regards from Spain
@bertjesklotepino
@bertjesklotepino Год назад
@@Steadierpark The exhaust doesnt sound that loud. And with the muffler on it it is already reduced significantly. I would not put it straight on the device itself, but on the end of the little pipe that comes along. Because of this little hole that is there to drain. You want that to be outside somewhere, so that fumes can escape from it outside, not inside. But what i do not understand is: What do you mean by: And would potentially clear the feet..... No clue what you are trying to say. I am dutch. Pls enlighten me.
@bertjesklotepino
@bertjesklotepino Год назад
Thank you for this tip indeed. I didnt even notice this little dimple at first. But now i have seen it, i will make sure to have it point down when i install it. Now i just have it on a stand, and everytime i end the burn i make sure to empty the muffler myself, by picking up the devide and pointing it down untill it stops dripping.
@overlandingoregon7496
@overlandingoregon7496 2 года назад
Cool video. Here are some tips I've learned from mine. You can control the temp, fuel consumption, and power consumption much better if you use the frequency setting. Set the control panel to show settable temp. There is one temp that you can set and the other temp is ambient temp. On the control panel hit the top two buttons on the left and right side together, and hold. You'll change the settable temp to frequency. The lowest frequency (1.6 hz) keeps my popup truck camper at about 65 throughout the night in 30-degree temps. Running mine for about 14 hours straight with only 1 startup and 1 shutdown uses about 13 to 15 amps from a battery. This same daily run time uses about 2 gallons of fuel in 4.5 days. Exhaust leak. After a while, you might get diesel fumes on startup from the clean air. This only happens on startup and cool down, not during regular run time. There is a gasket inside where you need to tighten the screws. It's near the combustion chamber. I have this issue but haven't been able to fix it yet. Take a bit to disassemble but shouldn't be too hard. It started after about 6-months of consistent use. Don't forget to use a carbon monoxide detector. The fuel pump is loud. There are quieter ones, or try to wrap the pump in sound damping materials. Cheers,
@derick12331
@derick12331 Год назад
Can I use this in my big truck or do you need the exhaust fumes to go outside?
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Год назад
@@derick12331 Gotta have a way to get the exhaust outside.
@SpiraSpiraSpira
@SpiraSpiraSpira Год назад
@@derick12331 you can use it in your truck cab, but you have to either have an exhaust port already or you have to fabricate one by drilling one out so that the exhaust can be vented outside.
@angeleyes5108
@angeleyes5108 Год назад
@carlos_sacalul
@carlos_sacalul 7 месяцев назад
Hi,it is possible to set up,for exemple to starts automatic at 4 AM to prepare nice temperature when i start to work in my garage at 8 AM? thanks
@btrswt35
@btrswt35 2 года назад
Guy would make a perfect narrator with that voice.
@rcmjrcorp
@rcmjrcorp 2 года назад
Seth McFarland 🤫
@ritewaydave164
@ritewaydave164 2 года назад
Yes he would. I was gunna say the same thing.
@generalx5220
@generalx5220 2 года назад
Yeah he’s got a slightly younger voice than mike roe
@Jonathanp46237
@Jonathanp46237 2 года назад
Great voice, MacFarlane all the way.
@TheKonnoisseur11
@TheKonnoisseur11 2 года назад
Instant subscriber effect voice
@SoundzAlive1
@SoundzAlive1 2 года назад
Tom, I hope to hear your golden tonsils on a documentary in the near future. Not many people possess the clarity, diction and modulation that captivates the listener. Oh and a very good review. André
@alanjm1234
@alanjm1234 2 года назад
A friend has one of these "Chinese cheapies" in his 4wd expedition truck. Has had it for 9 years now. Still working perfectly. I'm buying one this week.
@JS-oy6nn
@JS-oy6nn 2 года назад
I really like how you do your videos. Practical, to the point. You don’t stutter and pointless ramble. Excellent video.
@robertworden8559
@robertworden8559 2 года назад
Tom, your presentation skills are exceptional, your authority and knowledge makes watching your videos really enjoyable and educational. You also have Orson Wells eyes working for you, a brilliant man who chose his words wisely just like you do. You've got a terrific future ahead of you!
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 2 года назад
Wow, thanks! So far this RU-vid stuff is a lot of fun for me. I regret only that I haven't figured out how to prioritize time over my day job to do more. Thanks for watching and the kind words of encouragement!
@rke1987
@rke1987 Год назад
@@TomtheDilettante are you still satisfied with it? Had any issues at all?
@vargas4maggot
@vargas4maggot 3 года назад
Geat informative channel, glad I found it. Loved the short History and Expectations segment, because it always depends on several factors as to why one kind of solution might be an appropriate choice, never fully knowing the outcome in advance. It is all about efficiency on the money we spend or learning. Hope this device will serve you well.
@goofygal27
@goofygal27 2 года назад
Dude! Very concise and to the point. Explains the who/what/when/where/how/why and lays it all out in an easy to watch format. Excellent job!
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 2 года назад
Thank you! and thanks for watching :)
@beatrixjones2982
@beatrixjones2982 2 года назад
Great job! My husband and I watched your video this morning trying to decide which diesel heater to try out. I really appreciate the run down and easy to follow explanations. We subscribed and will be looking forward to your next video! 👍😊
@5awiii
@5awiii 2 года назад
wholesome
@hybrid5394
@hybrid5394 Год назад
1: I got one of these in our boat. The model without RTR chassi. Worked good over this crappy summer in Sweden. Outtemp goes for 102C/216F. Extreme heat with the heater running att maximum. 2: Just ordered a heater just like the one you tested with a RTR chassi. For our house cold days. Electricity in Sweden extremely expensive right now. Can revert later on if so... Thanx for the good video! No BS just fact! Me like!
@theociba3762
@theociba3762 Год назад
I couldn't agree more; this was truly entertaining. Well presented - easy to follow pace and ample dry humor (and information!).
@RealRickCox
@RealRickCox 3 года назад
Randomly found your channel.... I'm also a ham radio operator and gadget junkie. And I have a video studio in my home. You're doing a GREAT job on your videos. I'm sure you'll have a big channel in no time.
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 3 года назад
Sorry for the late reply, but thank you very much for the kind words. It's a lot of fun...I only wish I had more time to dedicate to making more content and tinkering :) 73!
@HitLeftistsWithHammers
@HitLeftistsWithHammers 2 года назад
Using the spydie to pop those clips had me vibin like Clint Eastwood on the front porch staring at his neighbors. 😆
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 2 года назад
ha! Some folks commented simply giving me shit for that. What can I say, the damn tabs are tight to the unit, I bite my fingernails, and I simply didn't feel like f**king around with it. So...knife :). Why own and carry one if you're not gunna use it right? :P
@123sKier
@123sKier 2 года назад
Great video!! Almost an exact replay of my first run including the wood feet :). I had that exact same unit. Got a little over a year out of it then started to get carbon build up when camping at 4000 feet in the snow. Cleaned it a few times and gave up. However, convinced I liked the system, I bought the Eberspecher and I haven’t lost a night of sleep again.
@daviddrabek5834
@daviddrabek5834 2 года назад
Thank you, straight to the point. I have the same one and jackery 1000. I ended up cutting the end of the exhaust tube, down to 3/4”, as that was all that is needed to clamp. However, I do like the 2x4 to keep the heat off the ground.
@glenchristensen3689
@glenchristensen3689 2 года назад
does this heater come with the 12v plug for the Jackery or do I need to go buy one?
@ColinsMarine
@ColinsMarine 2 года назад
I’ve been using this exact unit for three years to heat a two car garage during the winter and it’s never failed to start and run with excellent fuel and power consumption. People say they’ve had trouble with these units but mine has been great. As a side note, I run mine on kerosene all the time.
@jonneilsmyth9107
@jonneilsmyth9107 2 года назад
would it run on red or kerosene only
@ColinsMarine
@ColinsMarine 2 года назад
I’ve always ran mine on pure Kerosene, I was worried about the fuel pump have a less lubricating fuel but it hasn’t seemed to be an issue at all. I realize my experience might be unique but I’m also a boat guy and I’m used to the Webasto and Espar heaters and considering I can buy ten or more of these heaters for what one of those cost I decided that even if I replace this every couple years it made more economic sense. As it is even though I’m sure that the quality isn’t as good as the German units I’ve had zero issues and would recommend them highly.
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 2 года назад
Here are the specs representing the four operating stages of boost, high, mid, and economy, from the original heater Espar d2 that served as the template: 13,650 (4) 10,200 (3) 6,800 (2) 3,400 (0.9) BTU/kw 0.13 (0.51) 0.10 (0.38) 0.07 (0.25) 0.03 (0.11) Gallon/ liter 3.3 amps 2.0 amps 1.1 amps 0.6 amps
@eddkennedy6458
@eddkennedy6458 2 года назад
@@jonneilsmyth9107 Yes they can run on red diesel or green diesel as they have in ireland but kerosene burns cleaner.
@williamharris7992
@williamharris7992 2 года назад
Helpful 😊
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 2 года назад
I have been thinking off getting one of these for my boat. Thanks for sharing your experience with one.
@j.m.5995
@j.m.5995 2 года назад
Those things are quite popular with the Semi truck crowd. Only maintenance really is to clean the combustion chamber and the intake and exhaust tract at the end of the winter season. Fairly simple and reliable
@thenomadicrabbit2890
@thenomadicrabbit2890 2 года назад
For longevity, run for at least 20-30 min before shutdown. Also, I don't know if it has some sort of altitude compensation, but I went through two Webasto heaters in two weeks when I was at 8500 feet, not fun! I did have them leaned out (theres a control panel sequence you can do to adjust for altitude) but they still failed in a hurry! Those were petrol though, the diesel ones are supposed to be much more reliable. I now have a Planer (Russian) and its works very well. It has a computer chip that automatically compensates for altitude. It seems more solidly built than the Webasto too. I run kerosene in it. If you can find Kerosene in bulk, thats the way to go! Its about the same price as Diesel, it burns hotter and cleaner, and I was told by the North American Planar Rep that it would last much longer before carbon buildup occurred if I ran Kerosene. Some farm and ranch shops have Kerosene in bulk. Mine is installed in the floor of my van. My van is petrol, so I have a separate tank, thus why I can run Kerosene
@reaperperformance_aus
@reaperperformance_aus 3 года назад
Thanks for the run through. You sound like a radio announcer from world war 2 era . Very clear and easy to listen too . 😉
@adventurer67
@adventurer67 2 года назад
I am thinking Sargent Friday...
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 2 года назад
He does have a great voice
@ludvigtande1236
@ludvigtande1236 2 года назад
He does. Old military training films. Or the twilight zone guy. 👍
@josephglazier3286
@josephglazier3286 2 года назад
Jerry from rick and morty
@mikebussy3334
@mikebussy3334 2 года назад
Totally! 🤣 🤣 🤣
@mikemallet4541
@mikemallet4541 2 года назад
I sold many webasto and espar heaters.The customers who burned kerosene in them never had any issues.I am glad to have this video.I am thinking of installing one of these in my side by side.
@captbob1494
@captbob1494 Год назад
Hi question Can u burn Both Fuel Diezel or Kerozine or it's a completely different heather unit ? Thanks for answer Bob Québec Canada
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 2 года назад
Thumbs up for the comedic value at the end. Stay away from propane and this type of heater for your garage, go for a natural gas vented system or electric. These things can kill you and you won't know it until you wake up in your next life. A propane unit took away all the oxygen in my two car garage and I was lucky to understand what was happening soon enough. Be sure to have sensors running so if you choose to run one of these heaters that you get a heads up in advance. They put you to sleep fast. Took me a little while to realize what had happened and never used a propane heat after that day.
@jocap7993
@jocap7993 2 года назад
This is a problem with any open flame device. Wheather pellet stove, wood, coal or flammable liquid gas. You need outside intake and exhaust.
@mrmichaeltscott
@mrmichaeltscott 2 года назад
This type heater has an exhaust that is to vent to the outside. I've used it for 40 years in a truck. There is no danger if the exhaust is working. And the Bonus over other heaters is no moisture introduced inside. I also use one in my camper. I'm still not dead. I have a C02 sensor in there is never went off or even elevated.
@fookingsog
@fookingsog 2 года назад
When combusted properly, diesel has lower carbon monoxide than gasoline!!!
@Sirrehpotsirch
@Sirrehpotsirch 2 года назад
@@jocap7993 I agree. My pellet stove uses outside air.
@bobjackson3735
@bobjackson3735 2 года назад
I had a Big Buddy and it smelled too much in my garage...
@dockerandy
@dockerandy 2 года назад
i fitted one in my campervan 2 yrs ago. no issues at all, still runs great ! i have the chinese version.
@trafalgarssn
@trafalgarssn 2 года назад
I’ve been using these heaters for the last three years in my various workshops and there has been no troubles at all
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 2 года назад
nice endorsement. Glad to hear you've gotten a few years out of this thing so far. Thanks for sharing.
@AndreasEUR
@AndreasEUR 2 года назад
4:22 The straight through muffler is the best of the two actually from what I've seen from another test.
@fatmanoverlanding
@fatmanoverlanding 2 года назад
You can tell these diesel heaters were all made in the same factory in China, as a friend of mine has the exact same heater (down to the colour etc) but branded differently (we're from Australia). Because he uses his heater to heat up his tent, its usually placed nearby (the tent), plus with his kids about, he has wrapped the exhaust of the unit with thermal exhaust wrap/tape. Although I can't remember his having that muffler at the end. Even without it, the unit was relatively quiet.
@reloadnorth7722
@reloadnorth7722 Год назад
My wife bought me one for my garage 3 years ago. At -40 it does struggle to keep the 24x24 work area warm, but it does take the edge off. I have had absolutely no issues or failures, and feel it was worth the money.
@mattdudley3789
@mattdudley3789 2 года назад
I turned one into a furnace for a 120 sq/ft insulated shed. Powered with a 30A 3d printer power supply and is fed with a metal fuel tank outside. I also hacked one of the analog thermostats with the on/ off switch with an arduino and a regular programmable thermostat. works well enough, uses probably 60 gallons per season with the temp held at 60* or above
@cherylmartin4050
@cherylmartin4050 2 года назад
More on that please. Tiny house 120sqft shed conversion looking for another heat source
@corygoingto
@corygoingto Год назад
I was just thinking you could program a raspberry pi to cycle this on and off for specific temp ranges with limits to how long it has to run before it can be cycled again
@trsfc1595
@trsfc1595 2 года назад
I run mine on central heating oil, I add Lucas fuel Injector cleaner occasionally to lubricate and clean the combustion chamber glow plug It runs 14 hours a day
@fritzkabeano1969
@fritzkabeano1969 2 года назад
Just curious why you're using fuel oil? I see the average price right now is 3.40 and I'm presuming that's cheaper than "farm" diesel?
@trsfc1595
@trsfc1595 2 года назад
@@fritzkabeano1969 central heating oil is currently 68p per litre , red diesel is more expensive in the uk
@johnhickey1128
@johnhickey1128 2 года назад
same thing
@tburrows357
@tburrows357 2 года назад
Is this a primary heater for your residence?
@trsfc1595
@trsfc1595 2 года назад
@@tburrows357 I use the heater in my workshop / office, you'd need a number of them to heat a house
@t0pher45
@t0pher45 2 года назад
I have a webasto in my boat. I run it on kerosene most of the time. Fill with diesel only in a bind. Kerosene burns cleaner, from what I am told. I haven't had any issue with having kerosene in the tank and topping off with diesel from the pump. Kerosene is a lot more expensive but I don't use this heater much.
@Bairleafarm
@Bairleafarm Год назад
I just got one of these. I run mine off waste motor oil. I just put up an uneventful video of firing it up for the 1st time. Uneventful but highly impressed with how clear and clean it burns.
@UnoShots
@UnoShots 2 года назад
First time ever seeing your channel, as a tinker man I appreciate your straight to the point quick easy videos with slight Ave and this old Tony vibes SUBSCRIBED!
@UnoShots
@UnoShots 2 года назад
Whatttt! And your a ham operator! I'm trying to learn ham radios now I just have a cheap baofeng so I can listen to my local repeaters radio station that's awesome I'm glad I found you!
@takeoff1212
@takeoff1212 2 года назад
This is exactly how I heat my garage. Effective, cheap and fairly easy install. I mounted mine in an old filing cabinet that I hang from my ceiling. Its a great way to heat my 24x24 garage. No complaints.
@jackthomas1978
@jackthomas1978 2 года назад
You power up with mains?
@takeoff1212
@takeoff1212 2 года назад
@@jackthomas1978 correct, I use a transformer to go from 120 to 12v
@jackthomas1978
@jackthomas1978 2 года назад
@@takeoff1212 ive just ordered a 240 to 12 20amp tranny, 👍
@takeoff1212
@takeoff1212 2 года назад
@@jackthomas1978 20amp might be a bit shy. I know these units pull quite a bit at startup. I just looked up my Amazon order from over two years ago and I bought a 30amp setup
@bustersmith5569
@bustersmith5569 2 года назад
Will it keep you garage warm ? Say 55 or 60 degrees 🤔 TY,,
@sk8xaq
@sk8xaq 3 года назад
You are very well spoken, and I appreciate your healthy sense of skepticism. I'm personally not interested in this topic, but I knew I would enjoy how you delivered your observations and information. Great videos!
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@kevinandress1115
@kevinandress1115 Год назад
Great review. To the point, we’ll laid out and yet still very in depth. Helped me make my decision and really loved the effort you put into making this. Thank you.
@easttexasengineering3489
@easttexasengineering3489 2 года назад
Finally a great review on this item. I’m buying one for a safety backup here in Texas for power outages.. Thanks brother, great video
@mckenneyp18
@mckenneyp18 3 года назад
Loved the shirt for today's episode!
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 3 года назад
LOL! It's become kind of a saying for the men in my family :)
@rewelke
@rewelke 2 года назад
I've bought it more than a year ago. It works fine since the first start. It heat's up our caravan and its front tent very well. Same trouble with the manual. But some trials helped to handle the terminal and the remote. It's a nice and easy/cheap kind to get rooms cosy.
@sherifnabil9663
@sherifnabil9663 2 года назад
How long does it take to heat up the van?
@rewelke
@rewelke 2 года назад
@@sherifnabil9663 about a half of an hour.
@engineworx486
@engineworx486 2 года назад
Great vid 💯 Thanks Resler.....say hi to Liz & Red for us 😉 Seriously though, thanks for taking the time with this unit. Cheers 🍻
@drexelspivey6472
@drexelspivey6472 Год назад
Hi I bought this exact model heater nearly 2 years ago heating my large steel work shop and it’s been great , I piped a permanent exhaust to the outside and have the heating duct aimed at the floor ( got the tips off RU-vid) and I wouldn’t be without also I use red diesel and always have it running on full power , anyway I’m full of praise for these heaters
@drexelspivey6472
@drexelspivey6472 Год назад
@@owenblake90 hi i needed the shed large for my motor home so its around 11 meters long 6 meters wide and a 3.5 meter roller door high so its a big space to heat and the heater works well ,never too hot but keeps its nice for working in
@drexelspivey6472
@drexelspivey6472 Год назад
@@owenblake90 oh sorry forgot to say no insulation
@burnermaster5375
@burnermaster5375 2 года назад
Great review. Narration reminds me of the professor from Gilligan's Island. That's not a bust. It's wicked cool, thoughts and all in clear, proper, well spoken English. New subscriber here!
@thomcarroll5845
@thomcarroll5845 Год назад
Finally a real man presenter awesome explanation of the items he’s presenting have subscribed thank you sir
@ChadSmithakaCCG
@ChadSmithakaCCG 2 года назад
I really appreciate the power draw information. Exactly what I was looking for.
@jonthebru
@jonthebru 2 года назад
If it keeps you warm over a few really cold nights you will like it a lot more than you do now. This model is perfect got your purposes because it can be moved around, but the models that have a separate tank and without that large case seem to be the order of the day for van dwellers. But they are permanently installed. Some people replace that muffler with a higher end model and there has been a quiet fuel pump created as an aftermarket product.
@richardanderson4019
@richardanderson4019 2 года назад
As a professional truck driver, we use these kinds of heaters for keeping the bunk and cab warm at night. These stand up units are a problem, you should get the other version and make your own box. I have seen the other kinds here on RU-vid and they work really good. (The kind we use in semi's ) But, nice video over all.
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 2 года назад
thanks for watching and for the advice. I've been considering doing something like building my own enclosure with similar (but not stand-alone) heaters actually. Nice to hear you've had some good experience with that route. If I give it a shot, I'll certainly try to do a video on it as well. BTW, IMO truck drivers don't get enough credit or gratitude for the work they do to keep the country running. Thanks for what you do!
@Hakimfarhat
@Hakimfarhat 2 года назад
I warm up my cabin with a 200 watt bulb could you believe this?
@zeusapollo8688
@zeusapollo8688 2 года назад
@@Hakimfarhat 97%heat
@bustersmith5569
@bustersmith5569 2 года назад
Richard do you have a brand name for the heaters you use in the semi's ? TY
@patrickdolan.
@patrickdolan. 2 года назад
@@bustersmith5569 espar bunk heater. They're about 1200 dollars
@Tom-xp7dl
@Tom-xp7dl Год назад
I love how half of the users of diesel heaters say the exhaust MUST go down hill all the way due to condensation collecting in the pipe, the other half of the users point the exhaust STRAIGHT UP.
@wrafl
@wrafl 2 года назад
I enjoyed watching your presentation. It was very educational and informative. Im looking into getting one to heat my camper. Thank you.
@bmwbru
@bmwbru 2 года назад
Your channel came out of left field with suggestions from the algorithm. Glad I stumbled onto it! Great video. And bonus points for teaching me a new word.. dilettante 😂
@imdeplorable2241
@imdeplorable2241 2 года назад
I've never heard of these until now. GREAT review. Well done, sir. Well done.👍
@chrisgrubisa3819
@chrisgrubisa3819 2 года назад
Best part of this video was I was actually able to finish it till the end without having to shut it off because I was sick of the over-enthusiastic exaggerated facial expressions and yelling most RU-vidrs seem to feel the need to do
@BIaccCat
@BIaccCat 2 года назад
Right man? Amen to that..
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 2 года назад
Agreed!
@uncleKai_SWW
@uncleKai_SWW 2 года назад
Best comment ever
@gwokfaikiisu
@gwokfaikiisu 2 года назад
Bang on...he's excellent at presentingn
@melodysouljahrootsdubpress5539
@melodysouljahrootsdubpress5539 2 года назад
There's a guy from Scotland who is fantastic, and you don't even see his Face
@BorderlessBelik
@BorderlessBelik Год назад
Loved watching this video mate - very pro and entertaining - looking forward to see more stuff - much luv
@hamop3
@hamop3 2 года назад
Tom thanks for the go through on this heater unit. Looks neat but as you said, good price but lower quality. Still a neat unit. Great run down. Your no frills got another subscriber. Till next time.
@chasein7019
@chasein7019 2 года назад
I've had these heaters since the early 1970's. Mine was in a 1967 Volkswagen. It ran off the cars gasoline!!! It had a pilot light also which kept the snow from sticking in the NH winters. It put put out a MASSIVE amount of heat. Old Volkswagen's had no real heat to speak of. I've had Eberspacher and Espar since day 1 when they came out. They suck and always have. They carbon up real easy. I run kerosene only since the last 10 years or so. Much cleaner and less problems. Most all trucking companies run kerosene using an external 50 gallon tank. If it's Spring or Fall and your not running these full blast you should once in a while to heat them up and blow SOME of the carbon out. Doesn't get it all. If you go to Walmart in the lamp section you can buy a bottle of lamp oil which is kerosene. Undo the fuel line and stick in bottle and run heater on full. Do this at night in a parking lot and watch the sparks fly. That's the carbon burning up. Kerosene burns much hotter. if you've been running your heater on low all day or night run it on high for 1/2 an hour before shutting off. You don't have to use the small fuel tank that comes with the heater. You can use ANYTHING. A milk jug!!! Doesn't matter to heater. Just stick the fuel pickup in. I use a 25 gallon Coast Guard approved diesel Mueller boat fuel tank. Already has fuel pickup line and vent. Just plug your heater in. Don't get a drop of diesel on your clothes, sneakers or anything else. You can't wash smell out. I ran an external fuel fill outlet to the outside. Just a small one. I use a transfer pump with a rubber fuel line connected to a pump and cigarette lighter socket. I transfer fuel from 6 gallon gas tank to inside 25 gallon tank. Don't try to replace glow plug. Not worth it. Chances are your combustion chamber is all carboned up. These units are cheap. Buy another as a backup. Replace intake and exhaust metal pipe with stainless steel. Find on Ebay. Also, these heaters are cheaper on Ebay especially if you buy 2 or more. Buy backup pump. When your heater starts blowing smoke on startup it's going South soon. It will start to blow so much smoke the police will have to close the road. If your heater breaks use that opportunity to take it apart (After buying a new one) and see all the parts. Take combustion camber apart. Sand blasting it the only thing I've found to get rid of carbon. Save all those parts especially the sensors and control board as spare parts. Still, just toss it and buy a new one. I have NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER had a problem with any of these units since the 19070's failing and blowing fumes or anything else. They shut down REALLY quick. Make sure you pull the clean air for the cabin air from the cabin. I'm not talking about the combustion chamber intake or exhaust. They go outside. Don't put the clean air cabin air intake behind a cabinet or something else. It will get all gummed up with dust and everything else and your heater will fail unless it's cleaned all the time so make it easy to get to. Espar still hasn't got the message. NOBODY is buying their units anymore and they are still charging $1,000+. Their sales have fallen off the cliff and I can't see them in business much longer.
@jedburlingham3593
@jedburlingham3593 2 года назад
Tom: If you can get silicone hose in that diameter at the auto parts store, plus high temp. plastic fitting(s) for your exhaust so use these instead of the steel hose that will melt your tent. In fact, you might adapt the hose to a 180 degree formed aluminum tube used on washer drain lines. Fasten a wire long enough to tie to a tree to that tube will stay out of water if raining. The added bonus is that the hose will muffle the noise better than the muffler. Give us an update soon so we know if it's unit is good or crap. THANKS!
@casemodder89
@casemodder89 2 года назад
@@willpelton1619 90° ellbows are bad for the AFR and will cause soot. also plastic anything on an exhaust is a catastrophic failure.
@Identifyplumbing
@Identifyplumbing 2 года назад
I take it the exhaust has got to terminate outside?
@casemodder89
@casemodder89 2 года назад
@@Identifyplumbing of course. like every exhaust you could imagine.
@seantierney8145
@seantierney8145 2 года назад
Hearing you talk is smoothing! Great vid
@guarenchafa4912
@guarenchafa4912 2 года назад
Great presentation Tom, you just gained yourself a loyal subscriber.
@kingjames8283
@kingjames8283 2 года назад
I've been running the Espar D2 Webasto heater in my semi-truck for over 10-years now and it's still going strong. Obviously it is not encased in that red housing rather it's permanently installed underneath bed. I've only rebuilt mine once so far and parts are readily available up in Michigan. As mine is hooked up to a 225 gallon diesel fuel tank, the unit continues to run unmonitored for as long as it has 12-VDC power. On mine the combustion chamber inlet air and exhaust is direct to the outside along with the fuel pump which makes the unit extremely quiet while I'm sleeping. After the unit has heated the space to thermostat setting in high speed mode, it then goes into low speed mode to maintain set temperature (80°F for me) which makes it even more quiet and uses even less battery power. I believe they only use 2/10th's of a gallon of fuel per hour. So in colder months, it heats the inside of my truck cab without running main engine and it is an emergency heater should my trucks heating system ever fail such as failed blower motor or switch which has happened. As a backup for the home and the truck, I also purchased the Chinese knock-off version of the Espar D2 heater which has been setting on a self in it's original box since it arrived four years ago as I haven't needed it. With the availability of parts and easy serviceability, my Espar D2 heater will continue to run for many years to come. The secret to keeping the glow plug and internal parts from carbon buildup is to run the unit at maximum temperature which is 90°F for at least 1/2-hour every month, even in the summertime. During this time, any carbon buildup burns off and exits through the exhaust pipe.
@zubeystinzen540
@zubeystinzen540 2 года назад
Same here, my webasto has been installed 22 years & apart from a fuel filter change & a strip down decoke it's still super efficient,I've been in my campervan at -5 ° & been very comfortable.
@IggnantOG
@IggnantOG 2 года назад
I have 5 of these heaters. 2 of them heat a 34' travel trailer at 20° below zero. I got the cheap ones but they are impressive when they work.
@robertbrawley5048
@robertbrawley5048 2 года назад
@@IggnantOG do you mean 20 degrees below 32 ° Fahrenheit or 12° Fahrenheit Or do you mean minus 20 ° below zero Where do you encounter 20° bellow zero degrees
@Rubie_the_Black_Widow_Subie
@Rubie_the_Black_Widow_Subie 3 года назад
Coming from my background as a generator/small engines mechanic in the Army we always used auxiliary fuel tanks. If you can figure out a way to retrofit an auxiliary fuel tank to the unit that will be the simplest way to extend the time it will run for in one setting on “a tank” of fuel.
@allen-gt5ng
@allen-gt5ng 2 года назад
It's only designed to run one tank before catching on fire
@Rubie_the_Black_Widow_Subie
@Rubie_the_Black_Widow_Subie 2 года назад
@@allen-gt5ng 😂🤣
@xxHOLESHOTxx
@xxHOLESHOTxx Год назад
You are an excellent speaker. Great voice, content, and delivery.
@herpnderpn2484
@herpnderpn2484 Год назад
This guy, I'm not sure what's throwing me off but he seems like an animation or something. His speech, his mannerisms, the editing. I cant fully explain it. Cool dude, neat channel.
@lmamakos
@lmamakos 2 года назад
The big advantage of these vs kerosene or propane heaters is that you can completely separate the combustion air supply and exhaust from the air that you're heating and breathing. You don't have to worry about not waking up due to something going wrong and CO being released if the exhaust is ducted OUTSIDE. A buddy of mine uses one on his RV which he inhabits full time and it worked great for him. Because of the low cost, just just bought a spare using to experiment with and use as a back-up in case of failure, since it was his principle source of heat in the winter.
@paulpower1972
@paulpower1972 2 года назад
Jonn McK 47 has a channel dedicated to these heaters. An amazing amount of knowledge, tips and advice on there. 99% of the problems encountered with these units are due to poor setup and installation. Well worth visiting his channel
@doctorkayak
@doctorkayak 2 года назад
Wow, I looked at his first two (part 8 &9). Very thorough. He must be an instructor.
@PeterJavea
@PeterJavea Год назад
I also found John McK 47. Studied the 20 odd videos and when I saw how easy it is to service plus so many kits and parts sold on Ebay, I decided to buy one for my garden cabin. Great stuff
@rosswitte
@rosswitte Год назад
First video from your channel. Great job!
@StalledCobra
@StalledCobra 2 года назад
I have the espar system in my semi truck. Works wonders. Been problem free for the 3 years I’ve had the truck. Haven’t maintenance the unit in that time either.
@jorgeposadas1192
@jorgeposadas1192 2 года назад
It's old technology, that heating element comes standard in an APU (auxiliary power unit) in big trucks, it's that little box on the side of a truck that has a small engine so you don't have to run your big engine, provides a/c, heat and keeps your engine warm even though it's -40 outside, that's the heating element, I used one for over ten years, worked great.
@titantitan3030
@titantitan3030 2 года назад
the one you used was not made in china
@jorgeposadas1192
@jorgeposadas1192 2 года назад
@@titantitan3030 how do u no, that apu was from thermoking and everything they have is made in China and plus I didn't nock off the model.
@bobsnabby2298
@bobsnabby2298 2 года назад
@@titantitan3030 Nearly everything is made in China, even Webasto buy parts from there.
@alexwood99
@alexwood99 2 года назад
They put the main parts of these under the bunks of cascadias
@kukipett
@kukipett 2 года назад
Exhaust line seems dangerous, to close to the ground and no insulation in case of contact with something flammable. Second concern is the exhaust fumes, no visible fumes doesn't means no danger, CO is deadly but cannot be detected by a human nose !! So in case of internal use, you better insulate the exhaust line and lead it outside of the room.
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 2 года назад
Everywhere I use anything that produces carbon dioxide I also use a detector. Doesn't matter how well it is sealed. They are cheap insurance, and almost always use batteries. Which allows them to be used in a mobile situation.
@leveretth
@leveretth 2 года назад
Put the thing outside and pipe in the warm air through the fat pipe he showed (but didn't use) and insulate it.
@NBHank
@NBHank 2 года назад
The beauty of a diesel or kerosene fired heater is the ox of nitrogen will burn the eyes out of your head long before co harms you.
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 2 года назад
@@NBHank both my brother and father were nearly fatal poisoned by diesel exhaust when my brother was about 15. Took about 2 months for my brother to recover enough to come home from the hospital. Took even longer to fully recover. A big rig decided to idle next to the camper they were in.
@thomasbarlow4223
@thomasbarlow4223 2 года назад
@@williamallen7836 holy shit thats crazy
@GreenEnergyScience
@GreenEnergyScience 2 года назад
I just need to say one of the best parts of this video was at 14:29 lol. I felt the same way about the manual that came with mine great video
@andrewcornford2306
@andrewcornford2306 Год назад
I use one in my campervan, and as an open water swimmer (no wetsuit) it's a great heater and easy to control, I've been using my unit for six years and had no problem. I also use one in my work shop and two fitted outside with the heat pipes coming through the wall to heat the lower floor of my house. The muffler has always been an issue, however you can buy better after market. I run through 12v battery set up connected to solar on all. I also use diesel cleaner agent in the fuel to keep the internals in good condition.
@mikemotorbike4283
@mikemotorbike4283 2 года назад
Nice quick demo of the heater when new, thank you Tom. There are problems which come up after a short time ie plug fouling, pump line too narrow for spec(tells us the exact replacement parts to make good) , even that the 5kw uses more power than the 8Kw yet is the same size. The youtuber below has an excellent series on this and more. I like to recommend John Mack's series of teardowns and maintenance videos for anyone wanting to operate a Chinese heater. He has the best, most comprehensive mechanical investigation I've seen to date, bar none!. He covers all heater designs, and all aspects while demonstrating replacement parts upgrading for hidden weak elements. Offers service techniques and home made tools for known common yet avoidable failures. Insights, analysis and tests on the system, with practical observations and suggestion for improvement. And he is a regular humble Aussie guy. Many people have probably given up on their heater because they didn't know about these incredible video's by John Mack on the heater. We owe him a great thanks. ru-vid.com/group/PLne7MoW21Rk01DYGGfOqIbYt6H1ZFSFks
@Savant218
@Savant218 3 года назад
I have the same unit and it heats my whole garage which is 2 times bigger than Tom's. I live in Minnesota and its cold here - this unit works great !
@mikebailey2504
@mikebailey2504 2 года назад
How much fuel dose it use
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 2 года назад
Great presentation Tom!
@michaelharrison3046
@michaelharrison3046 2 года назад
Woah Blancolirio love your videos!
@leveretth
@leveretth 2 года назад
Hell, if Juan watches this channel, I'm a subscriber!
@michaelharrison3046
@michaelharrison3046 2 года назад
@@leveretthyour subscription list is 🔥 I’d recommend real engineering or tierzoo if your not already subscribed
@leveretth
@leveretth 2 года назад
@@michaelharrison3046 Thanx for the suggestions, but my gaming is almost entirely limited to flight simulator and Civilization. I used to sub to Real Engineering, but I objected to this line in "The Truth About Pumped Hydro" vid: "Solar and wind technologies... are capable of providing more than enough energy for all of humankind for a fraction of the cost of older fossil fuel power." This is patently false.
@michaelharrison3046
@michaelharrison3046 2 года назад
@@leveretth oh for sure, that vid was quite a deep dive I prefer the ones on aviation like the A10 and the new one on the Dreamliner but also check out what musk says about Solar power much less space, more output and easier to maintain than wind.
@friik100
@friik100 2 года назад
Been running one aliexpress 5KW unit (not standalone like in video thought) for two years now, heating garage/shop in wintertime. Have had no issues. Once or twice it has run out of fuel so it stopped working but re-priming and just starting up and again no issues. Have not opened it up or cleaned the burn chamber either - i've heard people having issues of it sooting up, but for my two years of usage I have not had problems. I even have few times accidentally unplugged the electrical outlet for that heater (it needs to start shutdown process to remove all fuel from burn chamber if you shut it down). And it has not sooted up. Its fantastic heater! But I would still recommend it to someone who understands dangers and knows how to install one safely.
@sixpackbinky
@sixpackbinky Год назад
I like how you just get to the point, thanks!
@KLH-pn8gg
@KLH-pn8gg 2 года назад
I have the same heater in my 14' x 7' enclosed trailer. Drilled 2 holes in the floorboard. Ran the exhaust and air intake out the 2 holes. Before I did that I used epoxy to seal the wood. On the exhaust pipe I wrapped it with carbon felt. Fed the hoses through the holes and attached them to the underside of the trailer. I have been using this set up for over 5 years with no problems. I would recommend ordering a backup fuel pump off of eBay. Since then I have two more of these heaters they're the shorter ones and I use them to heat ducK blinds, tents and ice fishing huts. And yes you must allow these heater units to go through a shutdown phase where everything is cooled off. Or you will cook the ECU. Very good video.
@majdidah
@majdidah 2 года назад
Hi , i would like to hear about the temperature control when you install this uniti outside the room , i am thinking to do the same but how the unit can read the room temperature and stops when it reaches the targeted temperature? Maybe you need to shift the temperature sensor to be inside the room? Thanks
@Jvasseur1
@Jvasseur1 2 года назад
I don't know if that's how you will mount it, but the exhaust can build condensation, drill a tiny hole in the lowest part of that metal exhaust tube.
@djredfern3842
@djredfern3842 2 года назад
Excellent demonstration and honest commentary, Bravo Zulu Tom.
@alexanderjarre4902
@alexanderjarre4902 Год назад
Absolutely brilliant I've got one here at the other side of the pond and it is on my as a stand by just in case the webasto decide it doesn't want to work anymore after 20-years so thank you for all the tips and very straightforward how to get it going and I managed to get it out the box as it's been in there for the year still no problems with works absolutely fine and that's what it says it does although I will agree with you that is a little roughly cheap play made thanks again for the video and I done what you done with the instructions forget it on his on and off is off simple straightforward thank you once again all the best Alex
@bobjones1131
@bobjones1131 2 года назад
I paid under $100 w/free shipping ! They make one that even heats water.
@coachk7674
@coachk7674 2 года назад
I’m going to share my recent experience with one of these free standing heaters, I also added wood blocks for clearance. The exhaust pipe does not last and directing it up like that is not a good idea. Ignition errors are the most common and I have replaced a Bluetti EB240 under warranty due to this heater causing EO23 errors non stop. You will have to break it down and clean it. The running rich does cause excessive soot. Each time it failed to ignite and run the unburned fuel tends to collect at the exhaust. Three nights ago the temperature dropped to below 30 here for the first time I have been starting this with the remote but something told me to step outside I was actually speaking to Amazon about replacing the DC adapter because it wasn’t putting out 12 VDC I was only getting 9.3 VDC and while speaking to AMAZON the exhaust port which I had modified with copper pipe and a 90° elbow ignited and caught fire right in front of me I dropped the phone grabbed the fire extinguisher and avoided what could’ve been a catastrophe I can’t stress enough how important it is that you have no less than 11 VDC. I’m replacing it with a component heater and have my doubts.
@SmedleyButler1
@SmedleyButler1 2 года назад
which model component heater did you go with? if you're not sure yet, could you explain what a component heater is please?
@fookingsog
@fookingsog 2 года назад
Correct Current (Amperage) at the the correct voltage is required for a full and complete burn!!! Sounds like you were underpowering the heater outside of its optimal performance specifications!!!...thus creating subpar performance.
@fergalmaher2733
@fergalmaher2733 Год назад
@@fookingsog Forgive my ignorance but what would the solution be here - get a more powerful battery pack?
@fergalmaher2733
@fergalmaher2733 Год назад
Could you explain this a little more ? Your battery pack wasn't powerful enough ? Or this DC adapter you speak of wasn't working correctly?
@coachk7674
@coachk7674 Год назад
@@fergalmaher2733 the adapter was not supplying enough DC voltage to start the heater. It needs more than 12vdc or .38 watts to start subject to your source. Once running it only draws .4 to .6 watts Since then I have learned they come set at sea level I am at 9400 ft I needed to adjust the settings for altitude using the 1688 function. I have two heaters connected in a 40 ft container shop and one in a small trailer. I am looking into other means since thanks to that feckless moron in the WhiteHouse diesel is at record prices even though it’s less to refine. #LetsGoBrandon
@fbksfrank4
@fbksfrank4 3 года назад
Used mine this spring, new tent. It was cold in the mountains, it worked as advertised! My learning curve was making sure the window is cracked. Error code 5 is telling you that the fan can’t blow any more in.
@TomtheDilettante
@TomtheDilettante 3 года назад
Glad to hear a good experience! And thanks for sharing about Error Code 5...I would not have guessed that. Sounds like I should make sure not to have too much positive pressure inside the tent if using this to avoid overwhelming the fan. Thanks for the tip!
@millnecks5186
@millnecks5186 2 года назад
Awesome presentation!! ill have to check out a couple more of your videos now
@silverismoney
@silverismoney 2 года назад
Great video. Looks like it does the job. I've been thinking about using one of these for a camper conversion i'm planning. I wonder if you can run it on veg oil!
@MacroTh3ory
@MacroTh3ory 2 года назад
Would be cool to engineer some kind of apparatuses where the exhaust passes through a tube inside of the air intake where the exhaust heat can preheat the air intake.
@peeonthe3rdrail414
@peeonthe3rdrail414 2 года назад
The air coming out is already 150 degrees, how hot do you want that air?
@MacroTh3ory
@MacroTh3ory 2 года назад
@@peeonthe3rdrail414 Not looking for hotter air output, looking for improved burn/fuel efficiency if doing so would help. It really works hard when pulling in some air from the teens, close to zero. Having some air preheated on the intake might help a little.
@melodysouljahrootsdubpress5539
@melodysouljahrootsdubpress5539 2 года назад
@@peeonthe3rdrail414 you can never get too efficient.
@LKN4WAR
@LKN4WAR 2 года назад
Higher the air density (cold) more power you can make in a Diesel engine. But warmer air may help in this case since it’s not a standard Diesel engine.
@chasp044
@chasp044 Год назад
@@peeonthe3rdrail414 He wants to pre heat the INTAKE air!
@dorkin_aint_easy
@dorkin_aint_easy Год назад
I had one of these without the box in my van for 4 years and it never failed me. If you have been using it for prolonged periods, make sure that you crank the temp up full blast for 5 min before shutdown to help burn off and clear soot.
@franksuderman9050
@franksuderman9050 2 года назад
I have a heater like that in my truck. I've used it for over a year and it still runs like the day I put it in there.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 года назад
I have two of these heaters I've had them for 2 years or 3 years and I only had to replace one fuel pump I have a workshop like yours the garage actually it's pretty well insulated I turn it on and leave it on the whole winter never shut it off and sometimes it's -40 over here so it does the job if you think it's going to break down by yourself an extra one I also got one in my RV same thing leave it on the whole Winter works great
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 года назад
@@willpelton1619 no was on Amazon
@SynKronos
@SynKronos 2 года назад
What you should do to massively improve is to attach a second heat exchanger on the exhaust to heat water. ;)
@Jameshowardadventures
@Jameshowardadventures Год назад
how do you do this? and where can you get a heat exchanger haha
@sinterso2.036
@sinterso2.036 Год назад
@@Jameshowardadventures I would imagine you could bend copper piping around the exhaust tube and have a water reservoir and a pump along with a temp sensor to disable the pump. Probably not the most efficient, but I figure it would be easy to setup.
@kswis
@kswis 2 года назад
At first I was not impressed but now I'll keep it in mind when I need that style of heat
@AR9ify
@AR9ify 2 года назад
Well done and great video 👍
@bobjones1131
@bobjones1131 2 года назад
They are best used in a van or truck cab that is moving. Exhaust near a tent or camper can be deadly !
@alexandercotton3798
@alexandercotton3798 2 года назад
Hey there, I wanna tell you, that I own one of those diesel heat exchangers. My model is for installing in a car with a 15 Liter tank. It's the same heat exchanger then yours with the difference that the lcd panel is the wrong one. It's hooked up to a battery with a charger on it when it drops below 20%. It is running 5 days straight with no issues. 15 liters will hold about 2 to 5 days with the right setting. A 12 square meter bathroom with 24 Celsius by an outside temp of below -23 Celsius here in germany. It works good and maintenance is simply
@martinbarnes6853
@martinbarnes6853 2 года назад
I had a Webasto engine and forced air heater on a 1993 Freightliner. It worked flawlessly, and 4 hours of run time heated my cab and diesel engine in winter to fire it up on the coldest of days or nights. It would drain the batteries of the rig over about 12 hours of use, but it had a water pump, as well, to heat the engine block and maintain some heat in the big diesel tanks.
@sempertard
@sempertard Год назад
Thanks for the volts/amps info, I definitely needed that.
@joecrancher2008
@joecrancher2008 Год назад
Brilliant video, really well presented and no waffling. Really impressed with your style of presenting l, I wish you could review everything I ever buy 😂
@sealy3
@sealy3 2 года назад
It would be nice if the heat from the burning of the Diesel fuel could be used to produce eclectic current to run the fan and control unit. the Achilles heal of the unit is it is reliant on a battery or outside power source. if the battery dies the heat stops.
@teamallyracing1780
@teamallyracing1780 2 года назад
I use an inveter in my garage
@misham6547
@misham6547 2 года назад
Peltier devices really don't give enough power
@westtexas806
@westtexas806 2 года назад
Mine requires no electricity just start the fire and open a valve and used motor oil and cooking grease fuels the heater.
@anatolipolyakov753
@anatolipolyakov753 2 года назад
@@westtexas806 which model do you have?
@oceanic8424
@oceanic8424 2 года назад
@@westtexas806 Sounds ideal. How much was it, is it portable, and who makes it?
@scottturcotte1860
@scottturcotte1860 2 года назад
As much heat that seems to be coming from the exhaust, I was wondering if some form of heat exchange could be used to get even more heat from the waste side...
@Sirrehpotsirch
@Sirrehpotsirch 2 года назад
@@willpelton1619 Ha! Excellent idea!
@jonyemm
@jonyemm 2 года назад
Need to be careful of cooling the exhaust to much.
@stevenwright901
@stevenwright901 2 года назад
@@jonyemm I agree - if you cool it to much you’ll have to deal with condensate and a loss of updraft - both solvable problems but each adds complexity. There are “condensing” gas water heaters that do this to improve efficiency but when I last checked were much more expensive and required a drain line.
@jonyemm
@jonyemm 2 года назад
@@stevenwright901 exactly. Thanks for going into detail. I would of but I learned the time spent to do so is usually wasted since people go by "what they heard/think" instead of spending 2 minutes to Google something. Of course there are situations where you can pull some heat from the flus/chimney but if you pull to much it can easily kill you. So for the sake of people reading this I simply say, don't try it. Every connection you make, piece of pipe you add, fitting you add, are all points where a leak can occur. Also adds to the strain put on the fan that not only expels the exhaust gas but also pulls in fresh air for the clean combustion of fuel. You may get some More heat out of it but you are certainly more likely to kill your family and it's guaranteed you'll lessen the life of the heater
@paulcowan3222
@paulcowan3222 2 года назад
Many many years ago when I used these types of heater in my trucks I would put a well made plastic water container in front of the output(not too close to melt) so when I woke up I would have some nice hot water in the morning to have a good wash with
@BrigitteGoodman
@BrigitteGoodman 2 года назад
I got it before I watched your video. Thank you very much. I did not pay for nothing. Very happy now.
@miscellaneousHandle
@miscellaneousHandle 2 года назад
Excellent vid - well done. Well shot. Good commentary
@paulkocyla1343
@paulkocyla1343 2 года назад
Wow. They are really cheap for what they provide, amazing! I am wondering if you could use a double wall chimney pipe (like in the natural gas heaters) to use the exhaust heat for preheating the incoming air. This thing would be extremely efficient when doing that. I just don´t know if the controller is prepared for a much warmer air getting in. But I guess so. Probably not a good idea, as a damage in the chimney would get exhaust sucked into the room, but some kind of heat exchanger might be safe enough.
@rythemzlatin
@rythemzlatin 2 года назад
Absolutely Correct re: CO poisoning. The air intake should be as far away from the exhaust as possible. A stiff wind blowing into an outward oriented exhaust ( imstructions often say to aim the exhaust pipe DOWNWARD ) could actually backfeed thru the chamber internally , pushing CO thru the intake. i cringe + warn van dwellers who've installed them w/intake INSIDE to "preheat" the air. PLUS: these units often put out enuf heat that you have to crack-open your downwind windows a bit !
@jonross377
@jonross377 2 года назад
You dont want to preheat the air you will be using to combust the fuel. Colder air = cleaner burn.
@jeep13ca
@jeep13ca 2 года назад
@@jonross377 there is 2 air Intakes on these. One for the combustion chamber and the other for passing air over the heat exchanger. He was talking about running it in the hear exchanger inlet.
@jeep13ca
@jeep13ca 2 года назад
I have seen the webasto version heat up air just fine from -40. Wouldn't really be worth the hassle of doing that.
@jonross377
@jonross377 2 года назад
@@jeep13ca Oh ok.
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