My First Ride on an E Scooter | No wonder people ride on the pavement! 

Driver self importance at it’s finest.

I would like to have heard the conversation continue. 'I'm literally a driving instructor...'

@@grahvis All the road rage incidents I've had have been with women. Once at a merge in turn some woman decided to fold my wing mirror in for me because "you should wait like everyone else" lol

:D

@@MrSapps You’ve obviously been unlucky as all polls show men are more likely to ‘rage’ behind the wheel 😂 I have to confess I sometimes rant at other drivers. I don’t mind genuine errors or minor indiscretions..but drivers using the wrong lane to get to the front and cut people up and drivers weaving from lane to lane to try and gain one place really piss me off. It’s usually men I see but Ive had my fair share of women when cycling. All just annoying people to be honest.

The fact he talked to her like she was a learner as well makes it oh so much sweeter

was not much of a discussion

I did find it kinda funny how he mentioned the priority thing after criticising dash cam channels for it. But I do understand he kept himself and everybody else safe which is the key difference.

Aint no "lady"

Ashley could of bust out the "Do you know who I am and what I do" and I would of bust out laughing and he would be right!! LOL

A cyclist coming out with such comments is hilarious. Show me a cyclist that stops at traffic lights or junctions and I`ll show you a unicorn.

@@thechillpill3233 quite a lot of cyclists do that lol, it’s not like there aren’t a multitude of drivers who don’t go on their phones, or go through red lights, or just don’t know how to drive in general

@@fuckfrancisco If cycling while texting was an Olympic sport, Britain would be assured of a gold medal 🏅🤣😂

@@thechillpill3233 hmmmm, ive personally never seen anyone cycle and text haha.

@@thechillpill3233 you will run out of unicorns, there are plenty.

I feel you mate, nice to have some positive representation from time to time like this.

That's what you get for cycling though.

@@lurkio804 lol your pathetic

@@lurkio804 What an utterly moronic thing to say. Sums your attitude up on the road no doubt.

Not just cyclists the same happens to motorbikes

I know there were no white line markings on that road but you were not over the center of the seam that indicates the center of that road, she however had her offside wheels over the seam and there fore in the event of a collision she would have been considered to be at fault. That said its no use arguing that you were in the right from a hospital bed is it. A greater degree of discretion could or should have ben used by the rider of the e scooter. I know that you did this on purpose to indicate perhaps a problem but am sure that under normal circumstances you would have given way as anyone with an ounce of common sense would do the same. She was in the wrong but then you still don't have the right of way and neither does she.

Nah, she thought she was in the right. Just couldn't be bothered to continue to argue.

@@judgedredd49 I hear that argument a lot, and of course it makes sense - there's no point forcing the issue if you end up injured or worse. But i hate how the result is drivers continue to wrongly understand the road rules, bully other road users with their car, and in fact vulnerable road users surrender their rights to use the road safely. Might is right is wrong. As i said, from a self preservation perspective it is correct. But as a society we need to change that attitude.

@@judgedredd49 Have you ever given way to a more vulnerable road user because its safer for them? Sounds like you expect them to give way because THEY are more likely to be injured, it needs to be the other way around. I bet she doesn't drive at horses like that.

She was like "Shit that's Ashley, I'm outta here for being wrong and I'll probably end up on YT"

In my country they limited electric scooters to 15kmh/h during nights 🤔not sure if they sticked with it.

70 here...L0ove the scooter more then the Car...Be careful out there my friend

@@fatlu1378 too late 😁 Had a tumble last year and broke my ankle and wrist when I grazed a bike lane divider

I started at that age too. Around here all ages use them. I use it instead of a mobility scooter 🛵

In Benidorm a month ago and they were everywhere as well as e bikes and normal cycles with what appeared to he no problems fitting into their environment at all. Well done Spain. Our U.K. government is a waste of space, takes them forever to decide to make no decision.

😂☝️

Would have been funnier still if it had been Ronnie Pickering instead of the woman.

Cycled to work for 25 years, 34 miles per day, 5 days a week and generally raced and cycled all my life. Yes I fell off a couple of times. Still cycling at 65, I do not know of anybody fitter at my age. I am slim, no arthosclerosis tested by carotid artery ultrasound scan, no arthritis, take no prescription drugs and have no comorbitities whatsoever. Just enjoying a healthy later life thanks mainly to aeroboic exercise and a healthy lifestyle.

@@stevezodiac491 Oh it's undoubtedly fantastic for your health. It's also great for the environment and cheaper than almost any other firm of transport other than walking. But city planners or the politicians that employ them don't seem to give the slightest toss about providing the infrastructure to make cycling a safe way to travel. I always get so jealous of the Dutch and how they just make infrastructure just work safely and efficiently.

Very true!

Someone the other day on my faired CBF600 expected me to hop up a kerb out the way like a bicycle, because they tried to force their way around a parked car. It was downhill for me and I couldn't go backwards, so I was stuck there until they got it into their head they would have to move. In hindsight I could have seen it happening, and avoided it, but I was following a car, and they were stopped behind the parked car to let the car in front past.

@@ashley_neal Am I wrong in assuming driving instructors have some powers they can use in certain situations where they can revoke a license or something along those lines? Don't ask where I heard this from as it was many years ago.

100% I see it all the time here on the Isle of Wight.

@@PeterMaddison2483 I've never heard of this.

People should see themselves reacting to things more often only then would they learn that they are responsible for THERE actions and the consequences that come of that

Ashley speaks sooo slooowly, you can add a multitude of endings to his sentences before he finishes it himself 🤣

Only Ronnie Pickering says that.

@@pussinboots1145 Who? :-)

@@maxusboostus :)

Where I am you can book them

@@jpfootballhd In places you can't book them; unlocking them before you get there almost guarantees someone else will hop on for a free ride. Voi need to enable prebooking in all slightly rural areas.

Using the voice is a brilliant improvisation though, especially the quintessentially English "Hoi" . I was a great fan of "Oi!" music when I was younger. Thers no mistaking impending danger when someone shouts "Hoi!".

I normally shout out BEEEEEEP

I find a shout of "Heads Up!" does the job nicely and few people take offence. (Yes people have got upset with me shouting "Oi!".

Exact reasons why I hate big suv drivers.

Bike or Scooter wheels need to be at least 20 Inch in diameter ...just a small Pothole will have you off when smaller wheels are used.

@@cerealtiller As soon as e-scooters are legal in the UK, I’m going to be building one with 20” wheels.

They are nasty things from an engineering and stability point of view. A LOT could be done to make the design safer, more stable and better able to handle real world road conditions...but the things would cost a lot more. That would make them less attractive

@@joules531 it’s a green light now mate

That's my experience as well. A poorly maintained road is a horrible experience on an e-scooter.

That was my initial thought aswell, have to deal with a situation like that many times every day even on a tighter road and parked cars on both sides of road with no gaps. Don't see a problem why both of them could not of fit through there with ease. Neal borderline middle of the road... Only difference if he was in a car that only 1 could of fit through and woman would of gave way. She obiviosly saw there is space for both of them, if Neal moved to the left. Now not saying he did that on purpose, I would guess lack of confidence on the scooter is why he kept a gap that he did.

@@FiTZYrr Agree. Often have far tighter situation on rides especially small roads. Neal primarily drives so he would probably be thinking as a driver rather than a rider. Definitely takes a bit of confidence pulling close to cars or tight against the side of the road. Scooters aren’t the easiest to control either. But there was definitely a lot of space that could have been used

The guidance is that a car should give a cyclist the same space as they would a car. 1.5 meters from passing traffic, and .75 meters from the kirk/ parked cars. So no he should have taken a dominant position.

@@gerardmcmanus thats when cars are overtaking from behind. when you can see the car infront and they are going slow with less than 2 lanes it doesnt really apply. If people took the dominant position in every situation like this youll get a lot of angry drivers and a lot of conjestion.

Wide angle lenses can make things look further away. If you've seen what happens when a car door opens onto a cyclist then you'll always ride wide of car doors.

The potholes on the roads around me are a problem for my 700x35 tyres!

Indeed

@@GilesWendes Git gud.

@@GilesWendes There's a section of road between me and town that badly needs resurfacing. The rest of that road has been done already over the past few years, just this winter the cracks really opened up on that final section.

We have so many potholes here.

Good to hear you're back on the roads, I'm guessing your health issue must be managed or better! Stay safe and if you get any good dash footage send it in! Take care and drive safe :)

" Scooters are becoming a problem where I live" In what way are they a problem to you or others?

thats why people need to not rideshare these cheap scooters, and buy a hyperscooter for more power so you can ride it in the streets instead of sidewalk

Don't drive on the pavement (sidewalk). That will just anger the walking road users (pedestrians). Entitlement (to the road) is a hard condition to fix.

I thought privately owned e-scooters are illegal on the road? A bit strange that policemen have been telling you that you are in the right when you are breaking the law?

@@32shumble That is not the case in germany. When you have an approved for road-use e-scooter and registered it with your insurance you can use a privately owned e-scooter on the road. There are some limitation of course, for example max speed 20km/h, but otherwise no, you are not breaking the law over here.

Just wait until 2030 when the government forces everyone out of their petrol and diesel powered vehicles. Most people won't be able to afford electric cars, so they'll end up walking, cycling or riding e-scooters. The roads will be a much calmer, safer place.

@@plottwist1733 I fucking hope so

Isolated it is not. This is what cyclists deal with daily.

That is what it is like here bmw x3 x5 etc them sort of suvs literally cut through red lights at road works just ignoring the queues.

I agree with you but the actual cause of the encounter is that she has just came across a situation for the first time and made a mistake, the next time may well be different. Personally I would prefer to not have them on the road or pavement, they are a joke to help eliminate cars altogether !

@@OldSonyMan what? Why? Bikes are on the road , mopeds to. The scooter is just a mix of them both. They have indicators .

@@damedusa5107 Who invented the e-scooter, Who is promoting them and who is financing them ? Innocent questions but important all the same to understand what is actually going on ! They are part of the solution to too many cars and should be judged in that light !

But he could see her also and chose to position himself further out to force his priority rather than sensibly just pulling to the left slightly....just heard him saying he realises he created this unecessarily so fair play for him realising that at least for next time...

@@mrturnbull9504 she should have stopped.

@@mrturnbull9504 he did not create it unnecessarily, he needed enough space to ensure a car door opening didn’t knock him off, and the other car just decided he didn’t deserve any space because he was not a car. It’s poor if you think what she did was acceptable or that he was in the wrong.

@@rainbowevil spot on

"I'm bigger, I can barge through" unfortunately applies a lot. i have had many cases of lorries turning to the main road from side road right in front of traffic, if anyone dares to press the horn a little, so do they because they are bigger and have all the right in the world.

One time I didn’t barge through on my right of way, because the traffic a head of me was building up to a stop, so I gestured for the other drivers to go through instead of blocking the road. I got a right mouthful from the man in his car saying “wow, you women need to read the Highway Code” I asked him to look at what I saw and said “ maybe you need to use your mirrors” he drove off with a sour look on his face, but I was pleased as punch 😌

Had this as a cyclist on many occasions driving down an industrial road where a hgv is parked on the oncoming side. Drivers see me in the middle of my lane to go past the hgv safely and still pull out seeing me coming

I’ve literally had people saying this to me, when I’m in my bike. Do we actually teach drivers this? Why do so many drivers actually believe priority is defined by size? Seeing a vulnerable road user, why wouldn’t anyone act with more caution?

I hate 4x4 drivers as they think they are superior to you

They should also have to sit 2's up in an hgv so they can see why they need just as much slack as pedestrians

Lmao

Most people are to scared to ride a motorcycle on the road. And in my view bicycles are even more dangerous. Been riding motorcycles 25 years and bicycles 37 years. Also drove HGV but Don't have a licence. Drove a Ford transit jumbo (taller than a single deck bus and over 20ft long) I really look out for vulnerable road users.

@@chrisredfield3240 Exactly why they should have the bejeezus scared out of them at licence time so organically, the driving population gets so much better at appreciating the vulnerable legitimate users of the road... which in turn would make it more appealing to be a bike rider on the roads,,, it would change the whole culture of the roads in just a few years...

An accurate summary of why these thing are just plain Daft..thank you

We already have that rule ... duh!

This is the rule, the more "vulnerable" the higher the priority. pedestrians > horse rider > cyclists > slow stuff > motorcyclists > big stuff > cars

@@PalladinPoker so we can allocate them points and create a video game “Death Race 2022”.

That's the rule already. We just need to educate the Karens In Vauxhalls that the ownership of a driving licence does not equate to entitlement.

@@horsenuts1831 Only it does. When you hit someone with your car you get a slap on the wrist. When you get 12 points for repeatedly driving like a pillock you just say you need it for your job and they let you off. Everything about driving reinforces the idea that its a right and that everyone else is of secondary concern to you being able to drive however you like. The whole system of driving relies on the majority of people being decent enough to compensate for the utter pricks that are on our roads. If people didn't drive defensively they would probably be in about 5 crashes every time they hit the motorways. Until driving becomes a privilege nothing will change. Getting your license seems to absolve you of having to drive with regard for others. Just look at any of the sentences for people who hurt others through their wilfully neglegent driving and you will know everything you need to about how we view dangerous driving.

Been riding for over 51 years. It sure don't get any better.

Riding a 1200 touring motorbike and still get car drivers trying to force their way past when they don’t have right of way. It’s just people’s impatient attitudes nowadays, unfortunately.

The biggest problem on the roads in general is the number of people who think the rules don’t apply to them. People on e-scooters don’t even know that there’s any rules … and with these ad hoc trials around the country, there don’t appear to be any set rules, either.

why are you still on L plates after 3 years?

@@oddjobtriumph1635 Waste of money, I don't need anything more than a 125, plus I've only just turned 24 this year, so for me there was no point spending money on a restricted licence even if the test and in some cases the bike, being the same. If I was 24+ when I started, I would've gone DAS straight away.

They think that it is a case of “I have the power to change your life for worse, don’t get in my way and stay on the pavement. I am irresponsible and can easily run over that dinky scooter. The road is for me. Shove off.” When it should be “yes of course you can share the road with us cars, we just both need to be aware, sensible and careful.”

@@ds_e5202 It is always funny though when you confront these people outside their car though, suddenly they go all mouse.

To be honest, the scooters should used on the pavements. It’s a huge control from the government.

Driving my 125 to work round london can be a shit storm haha

@@scottking869 I ride a slightly bigger bike in NL and the issues mentioned by Ashley are relevant everywhere

@@Ilovetriumphbikes except escooter riders have generally not had the level of training required to ride a motorcycle. This leads them to underestimate the dangers and ride in a way that would make most motorcyclists cringe. Not only am I having to watch out for being drivers cutting me off while filtering I am now having to worry about 13 year olds on escooters pulling dangerous manoeuvres to filter or cross traffic. I know that Voi where I ride through in Bristol are checking ID but there must be a loophole as kids seem to be able to hire them freely somehow.

Blijo, nice to see you here man! I appreciate your modding

Not saying you're lying, but it's not like cyclists are completely innocent. They seem to think the rules of the road don't apply to them

@@rory90FiVe I know. I drive cars and ride motorcycles too. Cars are the ones that kill.

Cycling home today I got the middle finger from a woman on her phone with kids out of seatbelts leaning into the front. Literally enough points to ban just for that.

@@rory90FiVe I would look as people as individuals and not as part of a group. Give Giles the benefit of doubt.

@@rory90FiVe Whataboutism not only isn't a counter argument but in cars vs bikes you cannot possibly think either that bikes are more dangerous or that cars don't break the rules. TfL data over 10 years showed 71% of people hit and killed/seriously injured by a road user jumping lights were hit by a car, bikes I think were 4 or 7%. Bikes are involved in fatal collisions with pedestrians about 2 every 3 years, cars kill 500+ a year before you even look at people who are killed on the roads. Watch any dash cam channel and you'll see cars jumping lights, going the wrong way down the road, speeding, on phones etc. Watch any police clips show and see the number who drive dangerously to get away from police or drive drunk. Bikes are not the problem on the roads. Also, it's very rarely cyclists that cause the problem, it's the Random on Bike / Kid on Bike that are the problem - these are not cyclists!

Spot on, that's the trouble in this country, there's nowhere to put a cycle lane without narrowing the road, head to France or Germany where cycle lanes have figured for a very long time and work well. I'd agree on normal size bicycles being better, bigger wheels give much better stability and bigger wheels also handle bad surfaces better, I see these scooters being ridden by lots of underage people, many 2 up, when on the pavement they're a danger and on the road they tend to swerve around grids and bumps with no thought for what's behind them.

The e-scooter isn't the problem - its the riders that cause the issues

@@ProzYYnc That's what normal bikes can do as well. No need to race to work and arriving dripping sweat. That's your choice. If you want to go faster without sweating there are e-bikes. I'm not a doctor, but if you can't cycle on an e-bike because you're out of breath all the time you might have to go and see one. Even my dad who has had lung problems all his life and smoked for 40 years can go at 10mph on an e-bike without much effort.

@@ProzYYnc They are a great alternative to single-occupant cars doing short journeys. However I believe bicycles (including assisted ones) are a better alternative. Just more benefits from bikes, mostly regarding safety as well as wellbeing. I just think more effort should be made into making on-demand cycle hire schemes more accessible and widespread rather than dividing the market.

@@woutervanr I second your point. The cyclists in Amsterdam are not worried about needing a shower by the time they get to work.

Because you would need to register them before you could use them. You can't use a kit car or imported car before they're registered either. The difference is that there's no registration process for e-scooters because they don't meet the current C&U and other regs for 'mechanically propelled vehicles'. Hence the need for the legislative changes to allow the trials.

​@@BucksCycleCam England is built on draconian regulations anyway. Typical - the government is allowed to but the end consumer isn't, the usual "one rule for one, a different rule for everyone else" sort of thing.

@@GaffaTV So you'd rather there were no regulations on motor vehicles?

@@BucksCycleCam sigh... that's not what I'm alluding to, at all. It's really simple... the government can do it, but we can't. That's it.

@@GaffaTV The government can do what? Ride scooters? Make laws? What are you saying?

"😉 Thanks for the money, unfortunately you did not provide ID" ... probably find somewhere is non refundable if you are unable to provide ID.

They are prioritising growth over adherence to rules. Typical "tech company" behaviour these days

That’s a good and frankly alarming point you bring up there.

It’s probably because the driving license rule leads people to abandon the app. By making people invested in it with cash they probably get far higher completion of sign up

I have an old-style (non-photographic) driving licence. Voi tells me that is not good enough so I'll not be going for a spin on one of heir scooters.

Yes great insight he engineered that situation to make an otherwise boring video about a grown man riding round town on a scooter. At the beginning why didn't he make himself aware of indicators and horn ?

Great wideo

Nice to see you here

aren't there ones by the Sainsbury's near oasis academy and fair isle primary school

In a rush to force her self ahead but time to stop and argue....logic at its best.

A Liverbird Karen, a Karenbird? 🤔

@@se-kmg355 Just like the car that passed by him closely, then the scooter catches up at the lights and gets ahead. What did the car gain? Absolutely nothing.

What he said is right just don't make an issue of it if you're on a bike(he trigged this situation to show you what car drivers do) , I have watched so many RU-vid videos of cyclists and then self entitled I'm going to take up the whole Road just because i can legally can and it actually doesn't give them any benefit apart from aggravates Road uses and possibly endangering them self's from retaliation I have been a cyclist for over 10 years and i rarely come across problems because I don't become the object of the other drivers problem (unless I really have to)

@@leexgx She stopped to argue, not him.

And exactly what cyclists have to deal with every single day. "I'm bigger and you can squeeze through so I have priority."

People forget that all vehicles have equal rights on the road, and cars are extremely fast and heavy and can easily kill vulnerable road users, yet people still treat them like they’re an obstacle

​@@ala0284 The problem is that once they have their licence, many motorists tend to believe they have a god-given right to use the road without hindrance to their progress. They forget that they have been licensed to drive a motor vehicle, and that licence is revokable. This isn't helped by the paltry (and sometimes non-existent) consequences of driving otherwise than in accordance with that licence (8600 drivers on more than 12 points, with three having over 60).

@@grahvis I once had a 'lady' running wide turning left off a main road shout at me (I was in a car) for having the temerity to approach the give way line on my side, because "You're supposed to give way to people turning into a side road". Wrong in several ways.

An invalid argument from an invalid

I agree

@@molamh853 It's a British fallacy that southern European drivers are reckless and murderous. As a non driver, I have experience of the UK as a cyclist, and more recently, Spain as an e-scooterist... No question as to where I feel/felt safer. Cycle lanes are much more common, and when there isn't one, a minimum of 2 mtrs must be maintained during a passing manoeuvre. Speed limits in all urban areas are 20kph, making it easier to keep up with traffic for both bikes and scooters

so is getting struck by lightening, something falling from a window when your walking or getting punched once at a bar, there are numerous of ways of fatality as morbid as that may sound. You cant be in bubble wrap.

@@gjaxx I think European drivers respect two-wheeled road users much more because most of them allow you to ride a moped from 14. So almost everyone has ridden one and/or have children riding one. Cycling as a sport has a mass following there and so cycling is very much a 'normal thing'. I much prefer riding my motorcycle in Europe than in the UK.

First off... 20kph is about safety, both for car occupants and pedestrians. There's a huge drop off in fatalities at slower speeds. Pollution increases at higher speeds because of incidental effects like acceleration, deceleration and braking to reach and reduce higher speeds... especially when you're racing to get to your next set of traffic lights... and here's the kicker... did you know that average speeds in major cities and large towns are about 7 or 8 mph?... So maybe you would be better off walking... or get yourself an escooter?

Thankyou @LoC I only wish more drivers understood your last sentence and drove with the same in mind.

that is stupid. Just follow the trafikk laws, and all goes much better. Always giving them priority, can also make accidents.

@@Gismo3333 Care to give an example of yielding priority by default causing an accident?

Correct. Portugal has great cycle infrastructure. Britain dosent even have decent roads never mind, walking or cycling paths

Like most cyclists tbh.

Whats wrong with pavements? As long as they are being responsible and not being an idiot on the pavement. Whats the problem.

this is how its supposed to be in england aswell. but everyone has forgotten. its also completely illegal to ride an e scooter on the road

@@therealyoda6172 it’s illegal to ride a private e-scooter, but not a hire scheme e-scooter.

Technically this is the case, only the car (or larger) has to enter the oncoming lane and block oncoming traffic. Its pretty hard to enforce though as the bicycle or motorcycle effectively blocks the oncoming lane as only another bike is small enough to share the space.

Agree

I thought it was "no rules for me and all rules for the others"

It's one rule for cyclists, and one rule for all the others. Fixed that for you.

No she went because there was actual road traffic being held up by a scooter trying to prove a point..... she wasn't being an arse... its hard enough and well known fact its hard to see motorcycles on sunny days with their head lights on and the noise they make...... Silent tiny headlightless scooters.....yeah seems like a great idea.

@@bobby6204 cool story bro

Many times I've waited for a safe location to pass then either get overtaken before I can pass the cyclist (I'll then overtake that car when safe cos I'm silly like that), otherwise when I do pass giving ample room, I'll see the car behind pass so close. Only sometimes do they follow my example.

I can't believe people have given you a thumbs down.

Your second comment is the key one. “I don’t know what cyclist will do……”. This is exactly this issue, the unpredictable nature of some cyclists increases the risk situation. I fully agree with you, take extra care as the rules of the highway may not be adhered to by the two wheel community and then you’re in a whole world on pain if something goes wrong.

I wish cyclists would take up a dominant position more (though I can see why many are leery to do so) - while driving my truck I came much closer to a family out cycling than I was comfortable with because they'd tucked themselves all the way to the left on a bend (high hedge rows) reducing how far back they were visible. Additionally aside from the mum who had a white top they all had drab colour clothing and nothing of high visibility on the bikes - if it hadn't been for the mum at the back having a bright top on I might not have noticed them as quickly - high vis can make such a difference.

@@Rroff2 yikes, not a nice experience!

@@Rroff2 indeed. But it takes a lot of experience and thought to get the balance right. Most people will not develop that judgement if they only cycle very occasionally.

Better to use the lane position numbers on 2 wheels, either the 3 position or 5 position system.

Think the Range Rover suffers from "must pass cyclist at any cost"-syndrome.

Take leaf out of Neal’s book “there you go mate, you sit at the red lights a little longer’ 😎

You ride on the pavement? I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you... 😔

its illegal to be on the road.

@@therealyoda6172 It's illegal to ride a non-trial-scheme e-scooter in any public place in England, be it road, footpath or cycle path, or anywhere else that might seem to the uninformed or intentionally criminal to be a good idea. It's an unregistered motor vehicle that would be treated as a moped except it doesn't comply with existing safety legislation.

I personally don't agree there. Please pack the tar brush away :)

Do you always talk such bollocks?

@@craiggerrard5117 Are you always so offensive?

I agree, and they should.

That is, if you record your rides then submit it to the police, depending on your police force they might send them a warning letter. I pretty much always wear glasses when out riding to keep flies and dirt out of my eyes, although a few times I've been sprayed too, although I find it helps to cool me down.

@@jerviservi I was recording..I’ll upload the video to my channel later today hopefully.

@@1ninjatiger You might want to send it to the police before uploading just in case. WMP allow you to upload footage to their site directly, I've only done it once, for an illegal turn that crosses a bike lane but there might be a rule or something that the police don't want your footage online before they've been able to process it.

@@Gobtik Its police Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 no where to upload anything

Couldn't they make it an offence to ride whilst drunk?

@@Jasontvnd9 That's been illegal from the get-go, as they've always fallen under the definition of a "motor vehicle". Doesn't seem to stop people from seriously hurting others.

@@Henoik its one thing to have a law but another to enforce it , seems like enforcement of the law is the issue.

@@Jasontvnd9 Of course.. It's difficult to enforce. Everyone who gets caught or reported breaking the law, are being ticketed, or in the most serious offenses, being sent to jail. The problem is that when you have hundreds, if not thousands of these scooters in a city, and a lot of them are being used irresponsibly and possibly illegally, it is unlikely that the police will be there to witness every crime. Yes, those who actually end up hurting others or who otherwise are reported to the police, get handled by the criminal system, but there is no way to realistically expect the police to be able to see even the majority of the incidents, when there are so many cases.

Well the fact of the matter is that the problem is that it is Legal to drive them when drunk. Just like it is illegal to use a normal bike when you are drunk here. It is honestly so fucking stupid that they have gone out of their way to make it legal to drive when drunk and then they complain about drunk people hurting themselves.

The issue is with who is using them, not the overall concept, I think they are a good idea for businessmen, etc who want to reduce their reliance on a car, reduces traffic, noise and pollution, I do wonder why owning one is illegal though as an owner would be less inclined to act like an idiot, maybe, seeing some drivers.. However an accident with a scooter is less severe than a car, if they were owned privately they wouldn't be left everywhere, I saw pictures of hire bikes in big piles in China, without people going out constantly to return them to hubs it doesn't work, unless you have a lot of them, especially as being able to ride to work is kinda the point.

The chap on the scooter said he would not do anything different if he was in a car 🤔 Why? They are totally different vehicles. If it had been two cars then there would not have been sufficient space for both to pass. It was not two cars so there was sufficient space to pass. I understand the scooter rider wants to give himself space, but he still needs to promote good use of the road and that includes avoiding holding up others unless it is unavoidable. The very fact that he gave himself more space than was needed to pass is what resulted in the car driver maintaining her opinion on the matter, he was not sufficiently on his own side of the road which he COULD have been. Not SHOULD have been, but certainly COULD have been. Why create a situation compelling the car to wait when you have the option to adopt a position in the road allowing BOTH to pass. The scooters road position can easily be seen as favouring an offside position in the lane as the scooter is FAR closer to the encountered car than it is to the parked car on the nearside. The scooter rider had only just given way to an oncoming car in EXACTLY the same circumstances but then made a very conscious (and audible) decision not to give way on this occasion. It appears this also served to mislead the second oncoming car regarding the scooter riders inconsistent intentions. The car driver was not abusive but interestingly displayed only concerns regarding the suicidal behaviours of the scooter rider. The driver only moved off again to prevent the scooter from holding up even more traffic than he had just worked so hard to inconvenience already.🤷‍♂️

@@venividivici1401 He "could" have been closer to the parked car, but you need to consider the risk of people in parked cars opening their doors without looking (far more likely and dangerous for bikes/scooters). With this in mind, in my opinion Ashley took the safest road position, and was perfectly correct to do so. The only person in the wrong here was the car driver. Also, the line in the tarmac appears to be pretty central in the road, and at no point does he actually cross that line - he's very close to it, but he remains on his side at all times.

@@Haggisking The risk of people in parked cars opening their doors is always a consideration for any road user. It is however a risk that is to be assessed by the person opening their door as much as the person using the road space the door opens into. We cannot drive ANY vehicle passed a parked car leaving a disproportionately large space such that we have now impeded the flow of inbound traffic in favour of the possibility of another road user perhaps making an error of judgement. In circumstances where there is sufficient space for two cars to pass abreast then this will always be done so without leaving sufficient space for the door of a parked car to fully open. So why is it different here. The only reason an issue is made is because the scooter rider specifically believes he can retrospectively manipulate the situation by preempting what might occur if he proceeds, this exact thing then occurring and then making an example of it. All this does not negate the fact that sufficient space did exist for both to pass in circumstances identical to two cars passing one another and making a judgement on the space to leave for doors to open. The centre line here simply serves to show how much road the car is using in proportion to the scooter. The distance to the black 68 plate Audi on the offside is normal and acceptable. The distance to the 15 plate Fiesta on the nearside is larger than would be left normally. The motive here is clear as the scooter rider takes a misleading and inconsistent action immediately prior to verbally justifying this action with the phrase, "and see what they do". Therefore he took this action to provoke or test a response from the car which is a specific and calculated motive going against that of promoting good use of the road. Put simply, he WANTED to make a point about space and took a prejudiced position in the road to best make this point. Since when was the correct and safe riding position for a scooter dictated by simply not crossing the centre line? That's a weak argument. Scooters etc will not usually be central but nearside and in a meeting situation the scooter should never dangerously mislead another road user by riding in the manner of a car or larger vehicle as the other road user cannot reasonably anticipate that they would do this. Ashley was focused on proving a point and in setting out to do this he ended up creating an issue which brought about far more learning. The "space I would like to proceed down the road position" doesn't realy exist as other drivers may similarly nominate that space as their own at the same time. Best just sticking with the common sense and safe methods of not risking safety at the expense of an educational opportunity.👍

@@venividivici1401 "The risk of people in parked cars opening their doors is always a consideration for any road user. It is however a risk that is to be assessed by the person opening their door as much as the person using the road space the door opens into." I've found the best attitude for safe road usage is to assume everyone else is trying to kill you "They should have looked!" isn't going to be much comfort when you're in lying in a hospital bed with multiple broken bones after someone opened a door into you without looking while you were cycling (or scootering) past. I'm guessing you haven't spent much time riding a bike on the road, or you would be aware of increase the risk of this happening (as a cyclist you are a lot less visible than a car due to the much narrower profile, so even if someone does look, if it's just a quick glance rather than a proper look then they can easily miss you). Highway Code rules 67 and 213 both advise that a 1m or door's width gap should be left by cyclists when passing parked cars - obviously it's impossible to judge perfectly from the fisheye camera lens, but it does appear that this is roughly the distance Ashley is maintaining - exactly in line with this advice. The distance the car leaves between the Audi might be "normal", but actually it's too close - cars should also leave a door's width, for exactly the same reason as above. The woman repeatedly states "you're on the wrong side of the road", but he isn't, he's on the correct side of the road, leaving the correct amount of space in order to safely pass a parked car, as per the advice in the highway code. The woman is clearly taking offence to this and would prefer that Ashley rode closer to the parked car, putting himself in danger, so as not to inconvenience her or delay her journey for the 2-3 seconds it would have taken her to wait and allow him to pass.

@@Haggisking I think there needs to be a bit of common sense applied when being that cautious. Believing that death is imminent at all times may lead to a lack of confidence, undue hesitancy, and failing to make safe progress. It is the specific circumstances which should be assessed in terms of safety weighed against promoting good use of the road. Looking at this clip from 12:48 onwards it is clear that Ashley is not concerned with rule 67 or rule 213 as he passes by a total of 12 other parked cars at a normal road position, well within the 1 metre advised by the Highway code. These rules are a “should” and not a “must” which obviously indicates factors and circumstances will dictate what is best. However, only at the exact time an inbound vehicle is seen does he then decide to change this riding style to that of central. This is the crux of the issue with this specific action, the rider is only trying to make a point. How much or how little experience I have in riding a bike on the road does not influence my ability to make a sound judgement of the clip, if anything a keen rider or cyclist may well have a more biased view than others…🤔 I think that citing the Highway Code is fine for a situation in which you could easily defend your action or lack of action. Indeed rule 201 is almost never implemented and rule 126 is very well documented as severely outdated. This is a guide only and not a means to hide behind the misrepresentation of a rule in lieu of forward planning and lateral thinking. Had there been no inbound car then Ashley’s actions would not be so questionable, however there was so one must be prepared to act differently when faced with circumstances which sufficiently amount to a different action still adhering to the highway code in that specific moment. The woman remarking about Ashely’s road position is clearly exaggerating due to dramatizing the shock of confrontation. However her point is interesting as she refers to his road position which is the exact argument here. Riding acceptably close to every single parked car with the exception of the one parked car which is abreast an oncoming car and changing your road position to be wider and ride more central into the path of that oncoming car just so that you can refer to some rule which you believe relates to this being acceptable at all times is not the done thing. The safe space for both to pass was inconsiderately breached by Ashely in that specific situation. His choices where to EITHER consider rule 67/213 relating to cyclist and riders only and choose to wait if he believed that adhering to this rule was more important and safer than proceeding. OR, proceeded in the exact same manner of riding which he had been doing previously before the car came and disregarded the rule in favour of making good use of the road space. There is not a scenario in which having both can be deemed acceptable, let alone to demand it. 🤷‍♂️

They do have a small bell, but it really isn't obvious.

@@garethnet Hah, maybe some low life had nicked the one on Ashley's scoot ..🤭😂

A bell is a nice polite warning on a shared footpath/cycleway. On a road there's no hope of it being heard by pedestrians or motorists above the road noise. Even a well placed bell reduces the amount of control on the brakes (not that you can't use them at the same time, especially for a planned manoeuvre, but in a potential emergency - like when a warning is necessary - there's some degree of impact). So yeah, a damned loud shout is definitely the best option.

You can see where the bell is located at 9:34

@@rdshaw92 That's the bell! I'd not have guessed that at all, thank you for pointing it out Ryan.