My First Time Watching Band Of Brothers | Episode 9 | Why We Fight 

Cutting scenes to get it posted is not a problem. As long as they were seen is more important. As to Hitler should have killed himself years earlier one has to ask if that would have made any difference. Someone just as evil or worse could have come up.

@@tsmartin Himmler, Goebbels, Mengele etc. where all just as bad or worse unfortunately and one of them would have taken over as Fuhrer.

Yeah when I was 7. . . MLes me weap every time.

Translation I speak a few languages. Liefgott breath of god sorry American phone doesn't know what an umlaut is. I he's ask how long have you been here. What was your crime and his reply is juden I'm a jew that's my crime my faith. 😢and Donald cheeto Trump tried the same to my country. And it's our fault. We have one-sided democracy were idiots. But friendly as fuck idiots. Be mice if we had world views education Healthcare got a shot ton of land what do we do with it build more guns. Give em away makes hungry homeless people richer greatest country on the planet since we INVITED NAZIS TO OUR CONTRY TO MAKE ROCKETS TO BEAT RUSSIA. CHRIST the planet need a extended history lesson. Here you.go Aussi girl Ben Franklin and Churchill said it slightly different same meaning. Thinking a senetor from Rome as well if I could remember His name. For fun I'll say glutinous maximus. The quote those that fail to learn. From history are doomed to repeat it. And here we are again. Repeating bullshit blaming others not getting work do e letting your country and every country bun while we frack about doing nothing.

General Eisenhower, the Supreme Allied Commander, instituted the standing order that all able-bodied civilians were to be forced, at gunpoint, to clean up the camps. To make certain they couldn't deny the crimes that had been committed in their names. For a lot of the German population, it was their first realization that they were the bad guys.

Because you can't reproduce real death on film, and pictures can never tell a story that all five of your senses experienced.

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Aww Babe Heffron! What a heartbreaking quote! 💔

Don't forget also those Jews who were tortured and used for scientific experiments!

Thank you for sharing your story!

That is such an incredible story! Thank you so much for sharing it and letting this brave man’s story live on!! How incredible that he chose to fight for his new home in America!!

@@MovieJoob I served 10 years in the US Navy as a Hospital Corpsman. 8 of those were with the US Marines. I have seen the insides of every race on the planet. It has always boggled my mind the amount of harm we can inflict on one another. Other than some pigmentation and beliefs, we are truly all the same. Perhaps one day we will find a better way.

I do miss when there was enough Holocaust survivors were alive to tell their stories to middle and high schools. I remember one back in middle school where he never got his tattoo. This was back in 1998. The Nazi's took him out of line and beat the crap out of him and essentially forgot to "mark" him. He said he was one of the few that never got "marked".

It is believed that this was the breaking point for Leibgott. He never attended an Easy Co. Reunion after the war. When a letter was sent out to Liebgott, his wife replied with "I will never forgive the Army for what they have done to my husband".

Utterly soul crushing! You can imagine how horrified he was by his own words and he just crumbled! 💔

@@82ndAbnVet _It is believed that this was the breaking point for Leibgott._ It never actually happened. The liberation and associated scenes are completely fictional (except for the civilians burying the dead) and were written for dramatic purposes. In reality, Easy Company played no role in the liberation of Kaufering IV (Hurlach). The camp was actually found and liberated on April 27, 1945 by the 12th Armored Division with units of the 101st arriving on April 28...but Easy Company wasn't one of them. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: _As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move._ _When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units ordered the local townspeople to bury the dead._ From the U.S. Army Airborne and Special Operations Museum: _When the US Army’s 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27th and 28th, in that order, the Soldiers discovered some 500 dead prisoners. In the days that followed, the U.S. Army units ordered the local population to bury the dead._

​@@82ndAbnVettbf easy company didn't actually discover a camp. It was another company in the 101s airborne who did.

While Points was the deneument of the series, Why We Fight is the crescendo. Between Perco's conversation with O'Keefe and Webster's soliloquy on the truck, they perfectly set up the big reveal of the camp.

Winters said after he saw the camps, he stopped caring whether his men looted from the Germans. And the French soldiers are executing SS, possibly Charlemagne SS, which just about every Allied army had an unspoken policy of doing.

My gods that is so heart breaking! I’m so sorry you dad experienced such horrors that he had to live with! I hope there was plenty of happiness too though! I’m sorry too that you lost him so recently! 💔❤️ Thank you for sharing his story!

build the greatest country in the world?USA? with 10 million killed native americans? with camps for native americans ?

Allied leadership were also brought information and refused it because they couldn't believe the Germans were cable of what was being shown to them.

Yes I recently in my own time since watching this episode researched what the world did or didn’t know about what was happening to the Jews and understandably because of propaganda from WWI that they had all just recently been through that they were being sceptical and honestly fair enough, it’s a very hard thing to believe that something that cruel was actually happening!

@@MovieJoob I'm sorry your family had to endure this I have no words to express the sympathy I have.

That's not exactly true, I recommend reading about Pilecki and his report given to the allies. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold%27s_Report

That is so nightmarish! I’m so glad they survived and lived safely with children in America once they were freed! ❤️

My cousins grandparents were part of the Polish Underground. Fought the nazis tooth and nail til they were finally driven out. Eventually migrated here to the States. Some of the most mellow people you could ever meet. Of course, they were that way because they'd already been through hell and back. Oh, and babcia also made some of the best stuffed cabbage and pierogi too.

My mom's parents moved to Oklahoma after WW1 from Czechoslavakia. Had they stayed longer my entire family would likely not exist.

How can you call them polish camps?! These were Nazi camps in Poland not polish camps

There may also be something to be said how Mozart was from Austria, and Beethovan was from Germany.

Ahh I didn’t even pick up on that! That is so interesting!!

Also - the older woman in red coat helping to bury the bodies is a bookend to the young girl in red coat in Schindler’s List (both coats were the only real color in the scenes). The girl represents the innocent victims & the woman the guilty German adults.

Honestly the one of the most gut-wrenching scene in the whole movie. Showing that these Nazi soldiers were educated men, men who have families, men who know love. Yet they carried out these unspeakable horrors and atrocities and some even indulged in it.

Interesting. I always thought it was used to highlight the arc of Nixon, from a man educated in the classics at Yale to him stumbling around at his lowest.

Same. I just can't handle the thoughts of what these poor people actually went through.

I do not blame you one bit! 😢💔

I bought the set Band of Brothers. The two episodes that bring me to tears are the Omaha beach and the concentration camp episodes. Moreso the latter one I watch the series at least twice a year and every time I cry at those two points. I think if anyone who watched the liberation of the camp and failed to be moved by its portrayal is missing something very vital.

Its maybe crazy to write you that, but as a german citizen, although half my ancestry where not german in the times we talk about, and the other ones lost there property as for not to be party members, I am really greatfull for you writing that about "so new generations know what happened as well so history doesn’t repeat itself". Not only in germany, but in all the world, but ofc especially in my home country to (as we do) we need to keep the knowledge loud and clear of what happens, even in all its hardness, crulity and unbelevable inhumanity, so that the people dont think of it as just 'some long gone wronge doing' but as a reminder what can happen by human failure of morality, of war and human evil.

@@Tarnatos14 well said my friend, thank you for your kind words, god bless you

Especially with some so brazenly trying to deny that those awful, evil acts against the Jewish people and so many others ever happened. To know that some of our countrymen would try to suggest that to be the case fills me with FURY.

@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 Yes and they even dont belive that themselfs, while they deny it there own extreme-righte-wing music bands celebrate the holocaust in there music, its just an absolutly awful act to provoke and spit on the graves of all who died there.

_Note that while the 101st Airborne did liberate the camp in question the real Easy Company was not involved._ You are correct that Easy Company wasn't involved in the liberation but units of the 101st didn't actually arrive at Kaufering IV until the day after the camp was liberated by the 12th Armored Division. The 101st was recognized as a liberating unit by virtue of it arriving within 48 hours.

So incredibly acted and directed/produced I totally agree!! That was utterly heart wrenching! 💔

The Allied command knew from the aerial reconnaissance photos, but there's not much they could've really done.

I have a Jewish friend who lost all four of her grandparents in concentration camps. Fortunately they had sent their children to safety in the UK and America.

@@stefanlaskowski6660 it's just awful looking through the records. Thank god they got the kids out, and how awful that it was needed at all. We must remember them, and ensure that it never happens again.

Actually the end of Episode 10 had me crying nearly as much as this one.

@@gregrtodd Happy tears though

Thank you so much for your kind words!!

I can only fathom the utter fury and disgust they would’ve felt!

I heard another veteran say they NEVER took another prisoner after they liberated the concentration camps. @@MovieJoob

As a german I can only imagine the disgust and shame my ancestors must have felt helping clean up the mustache mans mess. (Yes they wanted the jews MOVED not systematically murdered!)

Thank you so incredibly much! Completely agree with you there!

He was very lucky to survive the sinking of the Bismarck and be picked up by the British

Thank you so much! Very tough but very worth while!!

The camp shown in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV (Hurlach) which was one of eleven labor subcamps of Dachau located in the Landsberg (Bavaria) region of Germany known as the Kaufering complex. The prisoners worked in nearby underground factories and performed infrastructure repair (roads, rail lines, etc.). All the camps were located within few hundred yards of towns and villages and the prisoners were routinely march through those towns and villages. Contrary to what is shown in Band of Brothers, the camp was found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945 with units of the 101st arriving on April 28...Easy Company not being one of them. For dramatic purposes Easy Company is shown liberating the camp. *From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:* _With the intensification of the Allied air war against German industrial and military enterprises after 1943, the German Armaments Ministry and the SS agreed to accelerate construction of massive underground factories. For this they used large numbers of conscripted laborers and concentration camp prisoners. Hundreds of satellite camps attached to major concentration camps were established throughout the German Reich in 1944 and 1945. Inmates were forced to hollow out the sides of mountains or caves for immense systems of tunnels and factories that would be secure from Allied bombs. Those who survived these tasks were often used to build new weaponry, such as the Messerschmitt 262 (ME-262) jet-fighter or V-2 rockets._ _In Bavaria, two major camp systems, Mühldorf and Kaufering, were set up as subcamps of the Dachau concentration camp. Its inmates provided the labor necessary to build subterranean facilities for fighter aircraft production in the Landsberg area. The region was chosen in part because of its favorable geological composition for the construction of huge underground installations, which were to be insulated by 9 to 15 feet thick concrete walls._ _To house the concentration camp prisoners, the SS created camps near the proposed industrial sites. At the Kaufering and Mühldorf camps, prisoners often slept in poorly heated and badly provisioned earthen huts, which were partially submerged in the soil and covered with earth to disguise them from the air. The larger of Kaufering's 11 camps each contained several thousand prisoners, the vast majority of whom were Jews. Disease, malnutrition, and the brutal conditions in the workplace and in the camps took its toll on the inmates, resulting in a high mortality rate._ _As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move._ _When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units ordered the local townspeople to bury the dead._

Aww thank you so much for your lovely and kind words!!

It was so worth it! It’s incredibly upsetting but it was so well done!

Thank you so much! And yes I could hardly believe how raw and accurate they were portraying a small death camp like that. It was so well done!!

I love how people always say how important it is to never gorget (which it is!) but then ignore the current holocaust 2: Uyghur bogaloo in china.

Ohh I thought it implied she might’ve been the one to warn the officers of this camp to flee!

@@MovieJoob I know this is a bit late, but, her husband would absolutely have known there was a camp near his town, if he wasn't directly involved in it.

Aww thank you so very much Saul! ❤️

No the Nazis didnt sayd "we're here to help", there either said nothing, or said there a race enemy of the german people, or criminals, or a burden to the race, ore there to be conductet into labour. But there was never an historical attempt to fool any prisioner of a concentration camp, be it a real concentration camp in germany itself, or an extintion camp in todays poland, into beliving "we're here to help you". If the nazis wher ehonest about something, than about that. They even stated it in puplic hearings, books, speeches etc. before there rise to power and after it.

1000% they must have feared that this army had the exact same intentions as the nazi army! It’s not like the anti-semitism or beliefs in eugenics was exclusive to Germany at the time. It would’ve been terrifying! But they hugged them and gave them water and I hope they felt they were in safer hands even if they couldn’t communicate the best!

_What made it worse for the prisoners when told to get back inside the camp_ In reality there were only about 7 prisoners found alive (2 died within a couple days) when the camp shown in Band of Brothers, Kaufering IV, was liberated by the 12th Armored Division.

I know! It’s why it hit so especially hard when he heard the man explain that they were mostly ‘Juden’ 💔 he must have felt absolute disbelief and terror!

Omg utterly heartbreaking! To still have faith in humanity after what they’ve experienced. Miraculous.

Awww I can’t imagine how haunting that would’ve been for him. 💔

_It should be mandatory viewing in high school._ Large portions of Band of Brothers are fictional or inaccurate. _and that camp scene wrecks me every time_ The camp depicted in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV and except for the civilians burying the dead, everything else is completely fictional. Easy Company never liberated a concentration\labor camp.

Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy them!! As sad as I get I am still very happy in my life that I am lucky enough to have and have a great support system around me! Thank you so much!

@@MovieJoob you are absolutely welcome. I will always be here and watch along, even if I happen to be a bit late due to a shift at work or whatever

It’s definitely worth it 🙌 a brilliant show

Humans can be so wonderful and gentle but also so vicious and cruel we are very complex creatures!

Thank you so very much for your beautiful words! I 100% plan to watch the ‘11th episode’

Aww thank you so incredibly much! I did! Especially cat cuddles! ❤️🤗

Unfortunately, the US knew of these camps in the 30s, and turned away Jewish refugees quite a bit.

Sure it's powerful, but come on. They didn't fight because of the concentration camps. They didn't even know about these camps until very late in the war. They fought because they were told to and because all their friends wanted to go and fight. The title of this episode never quite sat right with me.

@@HopemanGG In the US, and especially Russia, our grandfathers fought because our country was sneak attacked.

Also why we should do everything we can to make sure these horrors are not repeated.

​@Angst-Traum that doesn't meaning labeling everything around you as "Nazi"

Aww thank you so much for your kind words!! I really appreciate this!

Thank you so much Kent!! As hard as it was it was so worth while! It’s a brilliant show which displayed brilliant men who fought so hard and saved so many!!

Aww your poor Uncle! May he rest in peace!! 💔

Aww thank you so much!

_I think everyone in schools across the world need to watch this episode_ Only in a certain context. While it is emotional, the liberation and associated scenes are completely fictional (except for the civilians burying the dead...that really did happen at Kaufering IV).

I believe my comment was too strong but I prefer to be true to my words. I apologize if I was aggressive and offended people but unfortunately what I said is reality.

Thank you so very much!!

Yes I researched a bit after this episode and found that especially due to the false news they experienced in WWI they were skeptical and unsure of what was true this time around and it seems like something impossible for humans to do especially on such a large scale so I can understand the disbelief!

Worth it 1000% 🙌

Awww Pat I’m so sorry! Thank you for joining me on this!!

The backs of my eyelids will have these images at the ready 🫠

It is kind of funny. People warn that this will be the hardest episode. You start watching and not that much happens. Nixon’s drop of Operation Varsity is bad but it doesn’t punch us. Nixon gets barked at by a dog. The first half doesn’t seem all that bad. Were people just pulling our legs? And then we get the second half… and we use all those tissues.

I’m so upset the journey is almost over but I will definitely watch the documentary style episode with you all!

I cannot imagine the horrors he saw. I hope he still lived happily after such a traumatic experience!!

@@MovieJoob He joined the Liverpool Kings then transferred to the 15th scottish recon in 1944, he came home married Theresa and had 6 children, grandchildren and was a lovely man, and dad.

_But it's all true, and I'm glad they did this so we never forget_ Yes, the Holocaust did happen, but what is shown in Band of Brothers is a completely fictional (except for the civilians burying the dead) version of the liberation of Kaufering IV.

Why?

What is shown in Band of Brothers is a fictionalized version of the liberation of Kaufering IV.