Nice job, just a couple tips from an old electrician/technician (retired).... 1). on your livescope black box, it produces a lot of heat. I put some spacers under mine to allow air to flow behind it as well for cooling, especially in the summer months. The carpet in my boat is similar to yours and acts as an insulator. I put a couple HDPE (poly board) strips behind mine. The cooler you keep it, the more efficient it is on power and its better for the health of the electronics . 2) on twisting the wires together...the problem with the twist is the d/c creates a magnetic field around each wire...one positive(supply), one negative(return) which becomes opposing magnetic fields and can cause more power consumption. The twist magnifies this effect and also uses more wire. I used wire sheaths to bundle power wires together and pulled the sheath through my hull. This also allowed me to keep power wires away from my data and transducer cables. Really enjoyed your video walk through. Really like your set up and hope you have improved you catching !!! Thank you young man, keep up the good videos !! God bless, tight lines.
Thank you for the comments. I will definitely put some spacers between it! It’s too late to untwist the wires, but I did run them up the opposite side of the boat as where the transducer cables are to help with interference! Tight lines to you as well. Take care.
Big time agree on point 2 as an aircraft mechanic... If your worried about trying to run wire, get a wire feeder from harbor freight. you can link the rods together to connect around 30 feet of maneuverable rods. I did it on my boat when I ran my 10gage wire to the front for the livescope.
I have watched a ton of videos on RU-vid on the Garmin Livescope install process. This is the best video I have found on the install process. Thank you for your time in making this video.
We upgraded our boat. Changed the single 102sv at the bow by adding a 126sv above it. Now we have a designated graph for livescope up front. We changed the console graph from a 93uhd to a 126sv. The Dewalt 20v5ah would no longer run these and the livescope for the four hours they had been. We are changing to a LiTime 12v100ah Lithium battery to run our electronics. Added the battery to the boat inside the forward dry storage, right in front of the console. The LiTime battery costs the same as a 20v10ah Dewalt battery. Having used it, I do not recommend the Dewalt system. Voltage drops quickly from 16.8 to 11.8. The graph then sounds an alarm and shuts itself off. There is a reason Garmin does not recommend this type of battery hack. Low voltage can damage your expensive graphs.
Man love the detail here and love the boat. Looking to buy a 2022 Z17 later this year when the craziness settles some (hopefully). Would love seeing a boat performance video.
I've got the same boat with almost the same setup minus one monitor. I get livescope and ultrex installed this week. Wish you could install mine though. Very clean install
Nice! Thanks for sharing. I posted this idea at KsAngling. I wish there was an adapter to have that battery in a charger while outputting 2 wires so that you plug it in at the end of the day and never have to swap out batteries. Thanks for sharing
@@awidman75 Small world. My brother used to own a place at Lake Viking, but sold it a few months ago. He's recently been fishing LeCygne and of course now has a full Livescope setup . I'll be fishing KC area lakes when I visit. BTW, I think I figured out how to do this output from a charger to hook up my LVS on the new boat. Keep on fishing and posting great content! Tim
Hello it’s nice to know your in the Kansas City Mo area I used to be a avid cat fisherman and now we decided to try our luck at crappie fishing using the live scope and it’s features. I have a 1999 Prince Craft Venture 221 Deck boat that I’ve mailing converted to a catfish/ fishing boat. I’m going to have to be creative to run the wiring up front on the bow. I’ve remove the two bench seats and installed pedals mounts on the lower portion of the boat, I don’t think I need all the units you show on your boat just one on the console and the other one upfront between the two seats. I’m concern on how to connect the units to ensure the proper connections. I like the idea of the 20volt powering system just want to make sure I’m doing it correct.
Just a quick question on the install. I just purchased the 93sv UHD and livescope with the 32 transducer. I wanted to hook up the 93sv to my cranking battery and my idea was to hook up the LS on the seelite adapter. Would this cause issues with the 93sv because the LS would be getting 20V of power and the 93 is rated up to 18?
Great video, thanks for sharing! One question, why install the switch to black box, when you can kill the transducer power at your graph? Garmin has a video showing how to do this versus adding the switch.
I just didn't want to have to go in to the graph each time to turn it off. Also, the black box draws power even when the ducer is off from my experience. The switch was an easy fix, and I don't have to remove the battery each time to turn the LS off.
@@awidman75 so you are saying the black box is pulling power without the transducer on. I will have to put DC current probe on it and see how much current is actually being drawn. Right now I have a dedicated deep cycle battery for my Livescope setup. I have 5 AGM batteries in my boat. It’s allot of added weight. Looking to employ the 20v system and eliminate one of my deep cycle batteries. Thanks for your feedback.
@@davidmclaughlin5345 Yes. It does draw power. Not sure how much. My dewalt battery was run all the way down with everything off, so it must pull power still.
How did you wire your Dewalt to your Black Box. I understand how the battery works, but how did you wire the base that the 20V lithium battery slides into to the black box?
It’s pretty simple, there’s a black and red wire that comes off the base, and that can hook directly to the wire harness that comes on the black box. I also installed a switch between that, and all you do is put that between the two red power wires. Thanks for watching!
I was planning on putting them in the same place, but then I saw the size of the GMS 10. It's HUGE! And with the cables coming off it, it's even bigger. They are only about 3 feet away from each other in the boat. This way saved me space to still store the anchor light pole, and the seat pedestal in the rod locker. It was also a cleaner more organized install this way.
Thank you for your great video on networking garmin echomap units with livescope. Are the graphs on your video garmin echomap 93sv’s graphs? Please advise. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! If you’re hooking it straight up to it, it’s just red wire to red wire and black wire to black wire. If you’re adding a switch just add the switch in between the red wires.
, thank you for responding, I ordered 2 Seelire adapters, they should be to me by Wednesday of this week, I think I’m going to use the 20-60 flex volt 12ah 20 volt Dewalt batteries. If I hook my Garmin 7610xsv to ONE 20v Dewalt by itself, would love the Garmin handle 20 volts by itself? And the other 20v battery dedicated to the black box, sound okay? Thank you for your advice Sir.
With the black box only hooked up to 20v, will that voltage show up on your graph screen, or will it only show the voltage that the graph is getting off your 12v battery?
It certainly would be cool to see the voltage up on the screen for the 20 V, but it doesn’t show that. The voltage that is shown on the screen is only what that graph is hooked to.
@@awidman75 Hey I've decided to rewire my unit and black box to power with the dewalt batteries with sealite adapter. The problem I ran into is the battery wouldn't fit into my sealite adapter. From the video, the adapter that you has looks a little bit different shape than the one I got. I wondered if they sent me the wrong adapter for it.
I’ve only seen two different adapters. One for the Milwaukee, and one for the Dewalt. I will say that it doesn’t take some muscle to get the battery on and off of the adapter.
@@awidman75 I understand that it doesn't take a whole lot of strength to put in and out but this adapter is just too narrow for both edge of the Dewalt battery to get in even if you use all your strength. I've contacted seelite and even sent them the photos of the adapter. Just waiting on their response. Thanks tho.
I was wondering if you could tell me how many hours or minutes you get out of one 20volt dewalt battery using it the way you have it set up. I think all you had on that one battery was the black box by itself correct? NICE JOB on the wiring job!!
I have been using a 4ah size battery so far. It lasts about 4 hours. I bring an extra 2ah battery with me, but haven't stayed out long enough to use it. I plan on buying an off brand battery in the 9ah size so it will last all day.
Thanks for watching! I purchased those at the tracker marine parts department at my local bass pro here in Kansas City. I don’t think they have an official name, but I just said that I was looking for a trolling motor shaft cable protector. I purchased those about six or seven years ago and have just moved them from boat to boat.
I’m not sure how to post a picture, but I can tell you what the dimensions are. The mount from front to back is 5 1/2 inches, the front riser for the first graph is 2 1/2 inches tall and the back riser is 5 inches tall. The place I bought it from told me that it fits up to 12 inch graphs easily.
The length from left to right is 6 1/2 inches. Each riser is about 3 1/4 inches deep. The front riser is aimed towards the back of the boat, and the front riser is aimed towards the bow. The 5 1/2 inches is measured from each riser.
@@awidman75 last question, hard to tell by the video but are the risers the same length as the bracket and your graph mount just overhangs or are the risers longer than the 6 1/2? Appreciate the help
I’m not an expert, but I would recommend mounting it. Like any electronica component, it’s better if it’s mounted to something versus just bouncing around, especially in a boat. 👍🏼
I only use the dewalt battery on the livescope black box. The rest of electronics are powered the cranking battery. I use a 31 AGM. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for making this informative video. Couple questions, I want to add a heading sensor for the same reason you did. Is it as simple as plugging in and using it, or do i need to purchase something extra? I have a 93uhd in the front and an echomap73sv at the console. Can i network those graphs together to share waypoints like you did or do i need two 93uhd units?
Thanks for watching. To add the heading sensor, you need a NMEA 2000 starter kit and heading sensor. The 73 and the 93 should have a network port on the back. You can just buy a networking cable and share all the information. You wouldn’t need a Network adapter unless you add another graph.
I'm in the process of fitting a new boat with 2 garmin 93sv UHD units. It's an aluminum boat with a jet unit instead of a prop because one of the main rivers I fish has a HP limit. Weight is a critical factor in anything I put on my boat. I want spot lock technology and have settled on a 55# terrova trolling motor so I can stay at 1 12v battery up front. I'd planned to run the console unit off my cranking battery, along with my lights and bilge pump, and then my front UHD graph with the dewalt tool battery option you have installed here. I see that Seelite offers that same adapter in 18v Milwaukee instead of the 20v dewalt. Would this be a better route for me to go? Also, how many hours can you run your livescope on the 20v batteries and will I lose some time with an 18v set up instead of the 20 v? I had originally thought I'd run my garmin off my trolling motor battery, but I'm reading that it can cause interference with the graph. Thanks for the video! It's given me some things to think about.
Yes, I would recommend the Milwaukee brand battery if you’re going to power your graph and LiveScope per Garmin. They make a 12ah model battery that could last you all day! Thanks for the comment.
So you say you have your garmin graphs being powered by your cranking battery. And the only thing you’re powering with your DeWalt battery is the GLS10 livescope black box? Do you get any interference, I heard from other people that the graph and GLS box have to have the same power source. What do you think? I’m asking cause I bought the livescope system and my 93sv is already hooked up to my cranking battery, I’d hate to have to rewire it. I’d much rather do like you did and just use that set up for the GLS box like you! Thanks in advance, loved the video!!🙏🏼
Thank you! I have had zero interference with my setup. The only thing running from the Dewalt is the Livescope. Supposedly, the live scope drains a lot of power out of your battery and your system throughout the day. That’s why I went this route. I take a couple extra batteries with me just in case. I usually don’t fish for more than six or seven hours at a time, so it’s usually not a problem to just have one or two batteries with me. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I hope you enjoy some of my other videos. Thank you for subscribing! PS I’m going to post a new video soon that is 30 seconds. It’s the first 30 seconds of me deploying my trolling motor with the new GLS 10. It’s pretty sweet!
@@awidman75 Thanks for the response, definitely looking forward to your future content. You’re welcome and I Truly appreciate the information you’ve shared!
One more thought, if you do want to run your graph and your livescope under one power source, they do make a power adapter for the 18 V Milwaukee batteries. Milwaukee also sells a 12ah battery that would last you all day! In my comments under the video, I did put some of the links for the stuff I used. Take care, and good luck!
on the see life battery adapter...is it easy to hook that up to the garmin black box, or do you have to do something special to the wiring to get it to work as a power source..thanks!
Great Video- I was planning on running LiveScope and a Garmin 106SV (on order) off a 12 V deep cycle and that will be the sole purpose of the battery. Do you think there would be any problems with this? Also, I am mounting the LiveScope on a transducer pole. . I assume I will not use the 8 degree bracket that is needed for mounting on trolling motor. Do I need another bracket?
As far as I know, any 12 V battery will run the equipment. As far as the 8° mount, from what I have read, you are correct. You wouldn’t need that. Thanks for watching!
Checkout the Bree-Z Box instead of using the GMS 10. It's $150 and comes with the cables... Go to JaimeAstin.com. Lots of people are networking with the Bree-Z Box
How long of a charge on you getting on your black box with the Dewalt 20V battery? I have already ordered the seelite adapter and was going to use a 6ah Dewalt. Thanks for any info you can provide. Great vid.
It doesn’t have a brand name on the battery. It’s just red and black. The model number is DCB206, but I don’t know if that’s specific for this battery.
I bough the adapter on the Seelite website. I did include the link in the description of this video. The adapter has about a 6 to 8 inch wire that’s probably about 14 or 16 gauge. It doesn’t run very far, so I wasn’t worried about the gauge of that wire. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching. I don’t think I had to extend the wire that came out of the black box to the adapter. I just used what came with the black box. It’s very close to where the adapter is mounted.
can you help me out figure out the wiring on your panoptix on off switch. purchased from amazon as you recommended, but i have no instruction. how is the white, red, brown and blue wired off the blue socket plug pig tail
@@awidman75 can you please let me know how to hook up the power switch wires off the blue pig tail. looking how the white red brown and blue wires are hooked up
Sorry for the delay. I did go and look, but I’ve got it tucked in pretty good to where I would have to take out the whole switch to see how it was wired. It came with a wire diagram and that’s what I used and followed to hook it up. I will see if I can find something online that has a wire diagram that might help you. Stay tuned!
I found the wire diagram. It is on the Amazon page where you buy the switch. It was the second or third picture of the product. They have a little wire diagram of what each color goes to.
Thanks for watching. I’ve had no issues the way it’s wired. I have since upgraded to two 106sv units and kept a 93sv UHD. So three units wired to staring battery, and then the black box on the DeWalt adapter.
